I don't know if you're a Bayer shill or not, but I will tell you this: There's enough money at stake in this that corporations (Bayer, or whoever) whose products might be responsible, would be willing to lie, cheat, steal, and let the bees die rather than lose their profits and/or be driven out of business. It's the same old story that keeps happening throughout human history: To Hell with 'tomorrow' so long as you get what you want right now; no bees to pollinate crops, essentially breaking a vital link in the chain of life is someone else's problem, and they'll all be dead before it even becomes a problem so why should they even care?
It's the same old story, really: People and corporations with money and power will do anything to maintain their wealth and influence, and they really don't care what happens after they're dead and gone; who cares if all the bees die, no pollination occurs anymore, and the entire chain of life collapses because one vital link in it is irrepairably broken? They get theirs, and that's all that matters to them.
It might be easier to stop using the chemicals that are killing the bees before we wreck the ecosystem to the point where we can't grow anything anymore!
I don't mind giving up my 'freedoms' if it means I'm safer!
Sounds like comparable logic to me.
I don't mind ISPs arbitrarily and unilaterally deciding whether I am allowed to access certain parts of the Internet or not so long as they're doing it to prevent 'piracy'
You sure you want to go with that?
I'm OK with the Internet being fragmented, so long as my Internet bill doesn't get more expensive!
Now we're getting down to it, aren't we?
I don't really care if anyone else can use the Internet for what they want or not, so long as I get what *I* want!
There, I think I've pared it down to the bare truth.
Most political decisions are made based on emotion, rather than reason.
And that, right there, is what will destroy civilization and the Human race in the end, not climate change, not an asteroid strike: Humans being stupid humans doing stupid human things for stupid human knee-jerk emotional reasons, rather than THINKING THINGS THROUGH FIRST.
So, basically, 'Never underestimate the awesome power of denial'?:-)
My personal opinion is that Putin would like to resurrect the Soviet Union, or at least a version of it; he's got his eye on empire-building, and the U.S. and it's allies would definitely stand in his way. Stands to reason that being supportive (both overtly and clandestinely) of a totally inexperienced, arrogant fool like Trump would further that agenda. Get the U.S. and it's allies in disarray because we have a totally inappropriate and disruptive President, and it makes it that much easier to acquire territory in Europe.
I agree with you, the OP is clearly too young to know about such things, probably believes all that is just stuff from movies and isn't real -- or the OP voted for Trump and/or needs to have his bloodwork checked for excessive lead contamination.
Anyone who believes that so-called 'UBI' will work in a country of 300,000,000 people is ignoring the math or is just plain bad at math to start with, and that's all I have to say on the subject.
The internet treats such things as damage and simply routes around them
Right up to the point where backbone providers start rerouting the traffic somewhere else, so packets go through, but not to where you intended them to go.
Sure, that's fine -- until, in a world where Net Neutrality is an utterly dead concept, and backbone providers feel empowered to block any traffic they decide they want to block for whatever arbitrary reasons they might have, they decide to start blocking all Tor exit nodes, essentially killing Tor altogether.
You're not looking at the Big Picture. If any backbone provider can unilaterally decide to disallow arbitrary traffic to traverse their network, then the Internet as a whole can become profoundly broken in no time. This sort of behavior sets a dangerous precedent for behavior for network providers at all levels. If you've ever been afraid of the Internet being broken up into 'walled gardens', then you should be afraid now, because moves like this from Cogent may set the tone for the future, emboldening other companies to take similar actions for whatever reasons suit them. This goes beyond frivolous things like, for instance, Comcast/Xfinity deciding to slow (or block) Hulu traffic because they offer their own streaming video service; what if, say, Wells Fargo Bank decides to pay a large ISP to slow (or block completely) access through their network to all Credit Unions? You might say "well, I'll just get a different ISP", but many people have no other choice of ISP. Since Comcast/Xfinity is a business, it can do whatever it wants. If there's no Net Neutrality regulation, then there's nothing to stop them. This is just one example; do you see the problem now?
I was under the impression that anyone that eats at Arbys probably doesn't own a computer or knows how to operate one, so why would any of us care about this?
Ah, I see: they can have all the proper documentation, travel permits, VISAs, and whatever else is required to legally enter the country, but none of that matters if some border guard 'decides' they're lying about not having social media accounts? So much for the rule of law?
That's all you'd have to say. What are they going to do, waterboard you until you admit you're on Facebook? I suppose if you're dumb enough that you actually use Facebook and actually have a picture of yourself in your profile and they find it all, then you're stuck, but what self-respecting terrorist is going to post pictures of themselves online? Also as others have pointed out, divulging your passwords is against Terms of Service for just about anything online, and in fact it may be a felony to allow someone else to access your accounts, even if it's law enforcement. This also sets a dangerous precendent, I think, if allowed to go forward; if they can force people coming into the country to give up passwords to online accounts, then there's a good argument for forcing anyone to give up their passwords, even if you were born in the U.S. and have never set foot outside it's borders, and never have had so much as a parking ticket your entire life.
Of course "this is a bad idea" and "this is a dangerous precedent" are phrases I think we're going to be hearing quite a bit in the next 4 years..
Here's what you do: You don't bother with FAX at all. You send it registered mail, return receipt requested, or you send it FedEx next-day delivery. That way someone at the FBI has to sign for it; you'll have proof it was sent and received and who received it, that will stand up in court.
Funny that I'd see a news story about this today, when I was thinking on the way in to work that we look to be entering an era (hopefully not more than 4 years long!) of less transparency in our government, and more secrecy. I'm not even going to begin to try to speculate on what could happen next, except that it's probably not going to be good for the average American citizen, especially if you're not white, but even us white folks will be affected.
You clearly don't know anything about microprocessors, if you did you'd be using a Z80, not some antiquated thing like an 8080 that needs 3 supply rails and a multi-phase clock signal, LOL.
You can make a joke out of this all you want but all you're really doing is covering for the FACT that one day YOU will be old and very likely living in a world that will just throw you away and not give you any choice in the matter but to live like an animal until you either die horribly or kill yourself out of despair.
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I don't know if you're a Bayer shill or not, but I will tell you this: There's enough money at stake in this that corporations (Bayer, or whoever) whose products might be responsible, would be willing to lie, cheat, steal, and let the bees die rather than lose their profits and/or be driven out of business. It's the same old story that keeps happening throughout human history: To Hell with 'tomorrow' so long as you get what you want right now; no bees to pollinate crops, essentially breaking a vital link in the chain of life is someone else's problem, and they'll all be dead before it even becomes a problem so why should they even care?
It's the same old story, really: People and corporations with money and power will do anything to maintain their wealth and influence, and they really don't care what happens after they're dead and gone; who cares if all the bees die, no pollination occurs anymore, and the entire chain of life collapses because one vital link in it is irrepairably broken? They get theirs, and that's all that matters to them.
How about we promote the bees, rather than replace them with robots?
Gee, I dunno Mister Wizard.. it's a crazy idea, I know, but maybe, just maybe we could stop using the chemicals that are killing the bees?
It might be easier to stop using the chemicals that are killing the bees before we wreck the ecosystem to the point where we can't grow anything anymore!
Oh and by the way I charge a small fee for being someones' straight-man; the first one's on the house, any after this is a buck per straight-line.
You forgot to add a 'drum hit' at the end of your comment, friend.
Need I say more?
Rememeber Breaking Bad? One of the biggest drug cartels in the world was run out of the back room of "Los Pollos Hermanos", a Mexican fast-food chain.
I don't mind giving up my 'freedoms' if it means I'm safer!
Sounds like comparable logic to me.
I don't mind ISPs arbitrarily and unilaterally deciding whether I am allowed to access certain parts of the Internet or not so long as they're doing it to prevent 'piracy'
You sure you want to go with that?
I'm OK with the Internet being fragmented, so long as my Internet bill doesn't get more expensive!
Now we're getting down to it, aren't we?
I don't really care if anyone else can use the Internet for what they want or not, so long as I get what *I* want!
There, I think I've pared it down to the bare truth.
Most political decisions are made based on emotion, rather than reason.
And that, right there, is what will destroy civilization and the Human race in the end, not climate change, not an asteroid strike: Humans being stupid humans doing stupid human things for stupid human knee-jerk emotional reasons, rather than THINKING THINGS THROUGH FIRST.
So, basically, 'Never underestimate the awesome power of denial'? :-)
My personal opinion is that Putin would like to resurrect the Soviet Union, or at least a version of it; he's got his eye on empire-building, and the U.S. and it's allies would definitely stand in his way. Stands to reason that being supportive (both overtly and clandestinely) of a totally inexperienced, arrogant fool like Trump would further that agenda. Get the U.S. and it's allies in disarray because we have a totally inappropriate and disruptive President, and it makes it that much easier to acquire territory in Europe.
You're still not seeing my point. You're thinking with your emotions rather than your logic and reason.
I agree with you, the OP is clearly too young to know about such things, probably believes all that is just stuff from movies and isn't real -- or the OP voted for Trump and/or needs to have his bloodwork checked for excessive lead contamination.
This news story doesn't fit my worldview and/or my personal agenda, so I'll just mock and ridicule it, LOL
Anyone who believes that so-called 'UBI' will work in a country of 300,000,000 people is ignoring the math or is just plain bad at math to start with, and that's all I have to say on the subject.
The internet treats such things as damage and simply routes around them
Right up to the point where backbone providers start rerouting the traffic somewhere else, so packets go through, but not to where you intended them to go.
Sure, that's fine -- until, in a world where Net Neutrality is an utterly dead concept, and backbone providers feel empowered to block any traffic they decide they want to block for whatever arbitrary reasons they might have, they decide to start blocking all Tor exit nodes, essentially killing Tor altogether.
You're not looking at the Big Picture. If any backbone provider can unilaterally decide to disallow arbitrary traffic to traverse their network, then the Internet as a whole can become profoundly broken in no time. This sort of behavior sets a dangerous precedent for behavior for network providers at all levels. If you've ever been afraid of the Internet being broken up into 'walled gardens', then you should be afraid now, because moves like this from Cogent may set the tone for the future, emboldening other companies to take similar actions for whatever reasons suit them. This goes beyond frivolous things like, for instance, Comcast/Xfinity deciding to slow (or block) Hulu traffic because they offer their own streaming video service; what if, say, Wells Fargo Bank decides to pay a large ISP to slow (or block completely) access through their network to all Credit Unions? You might say "well, I'll just get a different ISP", but many people have no other choice of ISP. Since Comcast/Xfinity is a business, it can do whatever it wants. If there's no Net Neutrality regulation, then there's nothing to stop them. This is just one example; do you see the problem now?
I was under the impression that anyone that eats at Arbys probably doesn't own a computer or knows how to operate one, so why would any of us care about this?
Ah, I see: they can have all the proper documentation, travel permits, VISAs, and whatever else is required to legally enter the country, but none of that matters if some border guard 'decides' they're lying about not having social media accounts? So much for the rule of law?
That's all you'd have to say. What are they going to do, waterboard you until you admit you're on Facebook? I suppose if you're dumb enough that you actually use Facebook and actually have a picture of yourself in your profile and they find it all, then you're stuck, but what self-respecting terrorist is going to post pictures of themselves online? Also as others have pointed out, divulging your passwords is against Terms of Service for just about anything online, and in fact it may be a felony to allow someone else to access your accounts, even if it's law enforcement. This also sets a dangerous precendent, I think, if allowed to go forward; if they can force people coming into the country to give up passwords to online accounts, then there's a good argument for forcing anyone to give up their passwords, even if you were born in the U.S. and have never set foot outside it's borders, and never have had so much as a parking ticket your entire life.
Of course "this is a bad idea" and "this is a dangerous precedent" are phrases I think we're going to be hearing quite a bit in the next 4 years..
Here's what you do: You don't bother with FAX at all. You send it registered mail, return receipt requested, or you send it FedEx next-day delivery. That way someone at the FBI has to sign for it; you'll have proof it was sent and received and who received it, that will stand up in court.
Funny that I'd see a news story about this today, when I was thinking on the way in to work that we look to be entering an era (hopefully not more than 4 years long!) of less transparency in our government, and more secrecy. I'm not even going to begin to try to speculate on what could happen next, except that it's probably not going to be good for the average American citizen, especially if you're not white, but even us white folks will be affected.
He still uses Intel microprocessors, LOL
You clearly don't know anything about microprocessors, if you did you'd be using a Z80, not some antiquated thing like an 8080 that needs 3 supply rails and a multi-phase clock signal, LOL.
You can make a joke out of this all you want but all you're really doing is covering for the FACT that one day YOU will be old and very likely living in a world that will just throw you away and not give you any choice in the matter but to live like an animal until you either die horribly or kill yourself out of despair.