Oh, sorry, i thought you said something about standby not working correctly, must have been another poster, if Vista's working fine for you that's great, not something worth discussing but still, good for you.
At the moment it's Ubuntu 6.10, i'm certainly not going to claim that it's perfect, i've had better overall linux experiences in the past from other distros, for one i'd quite like accelerated 3D on this laptop and it would be nice if the standard installation CD didn't have system requirements far in excess of the running system but, for the most part, it's pretty good.
When i talk about Vista users finding "almost works" to be not only good enough but worthy of praise i don't mean just issues like this, i saw a post on the Click online, terrible BBC News tech program, website by a user going on about how wonderful it was that Vista only had trouble finding drivers for a few devices, one of which was the video card, and presumably this isn't a case of no accelerated drivers but no fully functional 2d driver at all, i really don't understand how these users can get excited about windows nearly working, unless of course it's a better experience than they've had with previous versions...
So Vista doesnt quite work as its supposed to but its excellent nonetheless, you paid for this thing? If i pay money for a product and it doesnt function correctly i will complain to the manufacturer, i find it fascinating that people are over the moon with Windows Vista, having coughed up large sums of money for it, when the best they can say about the thing is that it almost works.
While i dont want to see/. dominated by FUD about vista, at the same time i think its important that people planning an upgrade can see what they are in for.
Did you read even the article summary? It sounds like we have some idea where problems like this might stem from and that this is what makes it newsworthy, the whole content protection thing. It also sounds, from the summary, like there are fixes of sorts. Of course i might well have missed the point.
And i thought i might get away with making mildly disparaging comments about an Apple product without getting flamed, oh well:)
But then you're swapping one expensive proprietary system [Vista] for a similarly expensive and more proprietary one [Mac OS X] It's well-known that Mac OS X is built atop, ships with, and heavily utilizes many open source projects (example, Mac OS Forge). OS X is just *brimming* with open source software. Most of the standards used directly utilize open source software behind the GUI and are based on open standards (some "de facto", most "de jure" (or whatever the technical analog is)).
Vista Home Basic is $199. Tiger is $129. Vista Ultimate is $399. Tiger is $129. Mac OSX is built atop an opensource kernel but the components which actually make the thing OSX and not just Darwin are anything but open. Note that i used the word system here, not Operating System in particular, the combination of OSX and Apple hardware, with the safeguards they put in place to make that apple hardware a requirement, makes it just as much a proprietary system as windows. Similarly, we're talking about the overall cost of the system, not just the OS but the hardware too.
Gaming on the Mac is in a slightly worse state, for commercial titles, than gaming on Linux from what i've seen. Absolutely false. There's a far greater number of games ported from Windows to OS X than to Linux. There are far more Mac-only commercial games than there are Linux-only commercial games. Then, of course, there's always Boot Camp (which *is* one aspect of "gaming on the Mac", less so as WINE and related projects mature on OS X).
Additionally, OS X can play, essentially, all open source Linux games. I wasn't aware of all the ports to the mac, providing they're real ports and not winelib type ones that's rather good news, well it's nice to see regardless but a real port taking the time rewrite without DirectX is great to see. As for boot camp, that pirated or, rather expensive purely for games, legitimate, copy of windows is required here, Wine/Cedega and Open Source linux games, oddly enough they work on linux too...
At least if you're pirating vista or installing Linux you don't need to switch to another provider's hardware. Although your implication is factually incorrect (if you want to include "piracy", you can pirate OS X and run it on a standard PC), your point is taken, and is the only one that's really all that accurate. Apple makes some really great hardware, and is priced very competitively compared with similar PC offerings. If that's a deal-breaker for you, then so be it. But for increasingly many people, this is being shown to not be much of a problem. Heh, the point is that buying an OS, even Vista, generally doesn't place arbitary restrictions on the type of hardware you use that OS with, beyond natural hardware incompatibilities, Apple have of course engineered such incompatibilities, along with licensing terms, to prevent non-Apple PC users from installing the thing, even if they pay for it. The reason OSX costs less than windows is that its subsidised by hardware sales, by tying the OS to the hardware they can give users that feeling of exclusivity they crave while selling them a product which basically equates to generic, commodity PC hardware in a stylish box.
Well, it could be argued that an ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, suse, well, just about any non source system, could be up and running somewhat quicker and with less fuss than a Gentoo installation.
I bet apple's release of bootcamp and a move to Intel compatible hardware will really strengthen OSX as a gaming platform... People easily installing XP on their macs to play games doesn't really do apple any favours other than to make the hardware more appealing and so easier to flogg.
So does the company make SPSS freely available to you as long as you're running windows? Isn't it possible that the company doesn't produce a version of the program for Linux because of a lack of demand, quietly buying and installing the windows version instead doesn't help here...
As for pirating Vista, as you say, this isn't relevant.
But then you're swapping one expensive proprietary system for a similarly expensive and more proprietary one, where's the sense in that? Gaming on the Mac is in a slightly worse state, for commercial titles, than gaming on Linux from what i've seen.
At least if you're pirating vista or installing Linux you don't need to switch to another provider's hardware.
And by continuing to buy these games you perpetuate the problem. Wouldn't it be possible to run all the games you want under XP at this point? Is there a reason why you would need to pirate Vista in order to play them?
I couldn't agree, more, this is the reason why Adobe doesn't bother with decent anti piracy measures in their software and Microsoft's solutions are decidedly half-baked, users continuing to use pirated software instead of investigating Free alternatives works nicely for those with the existing market presence.
Since microsoft have made it perfectly clear that they don't want anyone running their OS without paying, why continue to try, how about giving one of the many shiny desktop linux distros a go instead?
That doesn't sounds much like dapper to me, it's just the same old bleeding edge ubuntu with a longer support period, i've heard all manner of horror stories about 6.06
This makes me wonder if spammers might pick up on this method to get around FuzzyOCR and the like, unless of course HTML tables are discarded anyway.
If anyone wants to produce HTML table graphics then The GIMP comes with an export plugin, good fun but don't try exporting or rendering anything too large, it can put a lot of strain on the browser.
Neverball is absolutely wonderful, i just wish it failed a little more elegantly on windows systems that aren't up to the job, Tremulous is quite possibly the most addictive game i've ever encountered, there's something about the formula which just works perfectly and there's a constant supply of players on the dozens of servers.
Another old classic is CrackAttack, family members can get seriously hooked on CA:)
Sounds like you live on some level of hell not previously described, how the hell can anyone limit their TV watching to endless repeats of american rubbish with acres of advertising? If TV consisted of only that i'd stop watching all together.
So, do you pay £480 per annum to sky for the privelige of watching stuff they didn't produce and which you could have downloaded from bit torrent when it aired in the US?
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Oh, sorry, i thought you said something about standby not working correctly, must have been another poster, if Vista's working fine for you that's great, not something worth discussing but still, good for you.
At the moment it's Ubuntu 6.10, i'm certainly not going to claim that it's perfect, i've had better overall linux experiences in the past from other distros, for one i'd quite like accelerated 3D on this laptop and it would be nice if the standard installation CD didn't have system requirements far in excess of the running system but, for the most part, it's pretty good.
When i talk about Vista users finding "almost works" to be not only good enough but worthy of praise i don't mean just issues like this, i saw a post on the Click online, terrible BBC News tech program, website by a user going on about how wonderful it was that Vista only had trouble finding drivers for a few devices, one of which was the video card, and presumably this isn't a case of no accelerated drivers but no fully functional 2d driver at all, i really don't understand how these users can get excited about windows nearly working, unless of course it's a better experience than they've had with previous versions...
That's just a result of me being stupid and not disabling dead keys for this user before posting, the keyboard appears to function reasonably well.
So Vista doesnt quite work as its supposed to but its excellent nonetheless, you paid for this thing? If i pay money for a product and it doesnt function correctly i will complain to the manufacturer, i find it fascinating that people are over the moon with Windows Vista, having coughed up large sums of money for it, when the best they can say about the thing is that it almost works.
/. dominated by FUD about vista, at the same time i think its important that people planning an upgrade can see what they are in for.
While i dont want to see
As for me, ill stick with linux...
Did you read even the article summary? It sounds like we have some idea where problems like this might stem from and that this is what makes it newsworthy, the whole content protection thing. It also sounds, from the summary, like there are fixes of sorts. Of course i might well have missed the point.
But then consider the carbon figures for your Windows computer(Charcoal) vs. Linux laptop(Silver) ;)
Hmph, it is indeed CK, but only CK1, i want keen4e!
actually, i think this emulator is far more suited to alleycat and sopwith2, maybe impact would be playable
Lemmings and Prince seem like odd choices, arent these cracked versions of commercial titles, i know no one cares thesedays but still.
Heh, that's it's biggest selling point for windows users and the thing they get most cross about being different in the GIMP.
Vista Home Basic is $199. Tiger is $129. Vista Ultimate is $399. Tiger is $129. Mac OSX is built atop an opensource kernel but the components which actually make the thing OSX and not just Darwin are anything but open. Note that i used the word system here, not Operating System in particular, the combination of OSX and Apple hardware, with the safeguards they put in place to make that apple hardware a requirement, makes it just as much a proprietary system as windows. Similarly, we're talking about the overall cost of the system, not just the OS but the hardware too. Gaming on the Mac is in a slightly worse state, for commercial titles, than gaming on Linux from what i've seen. Absolutely false. There's a far greater number of games ported from Windows to OS X than to Linux. There are far more Mac-only commercial games than there are Linux-only commercial games. Then, of course, there's always Boot Camp (which *is* one aspect of "gaming on the Mac", less so as WINE and related projects mature on OS X).
Additionally, OS X can play, essentially, all open source Linux games. I wasn't aware of all the ports to the mac, providing they're real ports and not winelib type ones that's rather good news, well it's nice to see regardless but a real port taking the time rewrite without DirectX is great to see.
As for boot camp, that pirated or, rather expensive purely for games, legitimate, copy of windows is required here, Wine/Cedega and Open Source linux games, oddly enough they work on linux too... At least if you're pirating vista or installing Linux you don't need to switch to another provider's hardware. Although your implication is factually incorrect (if you want to include "piracy", you can pirate OS X and run it on a standard PC), your point is taken, and is the only one that's really all that accurate. Apple makes some really great hardware, and is priced very competitively compared with similar PC offerings. If that's a deal-breaker for you, then so be it. But for increasingly many people, this is being shown to not be much of a problem. Heh, the point is that buying an OS, even Vista, generally doesn't place arbitary restrictions on the type of hardware you use that OS with, beyond natural hardware incompatibilities, Apple have of course engineered such incompatibilities, along with licensing terms, to prevent non-Apple PC users from installing the thing, even if they pay for it. The reason OSX costs less than windows is that its subsidised by hardware sales, by tying the OS to the hardware they can give users that feeling of exclusivity they crave while selling them a product which basically equates to generic, commodity PC hardware in a stylish box.
Well, it could be argued that an ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, suse, well, just about any non source system, could be up and running somewhat quicker and with less fuss than a Gentoo installation.
I bet apple's release of bootcamp and a move to Intel compatible hardware will really strengthen OSX as a gaming platform... People easily installing XP on their macs to play games doesn't really do apple any favours other than to make the hardware more appealing and so easier to flogg.
So does the company make SPSS freely available to you as long as you're running windows?
Isn't it possible that the company doesn't produce a version of the program for Linux because of a lack of demand, quietly buying and installing the windows version instead doesn't help here...
As for pirating Vista, as you say, this isn't relevant.
But then you're swapping one expensive proprietary system for a similarly expensive and more proprietary one, where's the sense in that? Gaming on the Mac is in a slightly worse state, for commercial titles, than gaming on Linux from what i've seen.
At least if you're pirating vista or installing Linux you don't need to switch to another provider's hardware.
So what's useful and functional about FreeBSD and Windows that make them better choices than Linux?
And by continuing to buy these games you perpetuate the problem. Wouldn't it be possible to run all the games you want under XP at this point? Is there a reason why you would need to pirate Vista in order to play them?
I couldn't agree, more, this is the reason why Adobe doesn't bother with decent anti piracy measures in their software and Microsoft's solutions are decidedly half-baked, users continuing to use pirated software instead of investigating Free alternatives works nicely for those with the existing market presence.
Since microsoft have made it perfectly clear that they don't want anyone running their OS without paying, why continue to try, how about giving one of the many shiny desktop linux distros a go instead?
That doesn't sounds much like dapper to me, it's just the same old bleeding edge ubuntu with a longer support period, i've heard all manner of horror stories about 6.06
"When I come across them I destroy them."
The Junk, The Circles, The Wierdos or all of the above?
well ok, released with a public domain dedication is just as good...
The term "completely free" was used, to my mind it's not completely free unless it's open source and released under a suitable license.
This makes me wonder if spammers might pick up on this method to get around FuzzyOCR and the like, unless of course HTML tables are discarded anyway.
If anyone wants to produce HTML table graphics then The GIMP comes with an export plugin, good fun but don't try exporting or rendering anything too large, it can put a lot of strain on the browser.
Neverball is absolutely wonderful, i just wish it failed a little more elegantly on windows systems that aren't up to the job, Tremulous is quite possibly the most addictive game i've ever encountered, there's something about the formula which just works perfectly and there's a constant supply of players on the dozens of servers.
:)
Another old classic is CrackAttack, family members can get seriously hooked on CA
Sounds like you live on some level of hell not previously described, how the hell can anyone limit their TV watching to endless repeats of american rubbish with acres of advertising? If TV consisted of only that i'd stop watching all together.
So, do you pay £480 per annum to sky for the privelige of watching stuff they didn't produce and which you could have downloaded from bit torrent when it aired in the US?
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