ZOMG, seriously? You could even just use the tungsten or incandescent preset.
the point is that dSLRs often have a nasty tendency to get AutoWB badly wrong in tungsten light and most people don't want to mess around with manual white balance from a grey card or shooting in raw.
Oh, you're a canon user, my primes are old Pentax M series ones so they're actually considerably cheaper than buying modern low quality zooms. I Also use a nice A series zoom, which admitedly spends an awful lot of time on my camera, quite a lot but tend to prefer working with a good prime when it makes sense, zooms make for very lazy photographers;).
It is actually quite surprising what you can do with a small transparent plastic bead some 800ASA film and high intensity flash, single use cameras never cease to amaze me.
I've never met a dSLR that does digital zoom, do such things exist? I use primes on my dSLR all the time, should i not? Camera phones generally do digital zoom but then there are some very impressive ones available in korea that have real zoom lenses.
When the white balance is as badly wrong as the dSLR in this test got it even with post processing getting a JPEG's colours to look realistic again can be problematic.
Well, an awful lot of dSLR users do just put photos on flickr, but the thing is that you can't attach a Tamron 70-300 and marvel at Teh B0keH! while ignoring the god awful CA and softness and being patted on the back by dozens of cretinous flickr users if all you have is a camera phone...
Of course if you're using primes that zoom range disappears, and for low light conditions you'd better be using a nice prime, considering that most trashy kit lenses run to f/5.6(!!?!?!!) at the long end.
Camera phones do an excellent job in night mode of picking up detail that my dSLR might struggle with, of course the end results are only any good as snaps but if that was the idea that's good enough.
remember that a dSLR with a f/1.7 50mm lens has pretty shallow depth of field, then consider that the camera phone is what, f/2.8 3.8mm, that reduces the need to focuss on anything in particular.
Not that i would ever use a camera phone for low light photography, i like my Pentax-M f/1.7 50mm far too much, but i can certainly see why they could be appealing.
*looks at the article*...
what's this about colours, don't they know about white balance?
I've been using Ubuntu with Netgear WG511 cards since breezy and it's always just worked, i'm not a big fan of ubuntu but that impressed me, now I upgrade to feisty because i've finally started to trust Ubuntu a little, great, my wireless card is no longer supported, splendid! So much for a well tested reliable OS every 6 months, can't they wait a little longer to make sure they get it right, is a disruptive upgrade every 6 months absolutely necessary? And no, LTS is not an option, i would quite like to have packages for the latest software, not backported security updates.
Does anyone else have a similar card and trouble with 7.04, If there's a fix i'll be very happy.
Thankyou for that enlightening subject line, i'm acutely aware of the text mode installer, for the distribution heralded very early on as linux for the average user, this text mode installer(from sarge?) was pretty poor. Of course i wasn't expecting anything too slick but i guess using Mandrake in the past gave me unusually high expectations.
Or are you saying that they took out the text mode installation for Feisty? Yep, funnily enough that's exactly what i'm saying, or rather they took it out for 6.10, which i downloaded(twice, once for the alt install disc) and installed last year, and, AFAICT, have left it out for 7.04.
So if my lesser hardware can't boot the liveCD in a timely manner or run a modern linux desktop from a compressed CD without swap i shouldn't run Ubuntu proper on it at all? Should i just discount Ubuntu, and by association Linux, as bloatware and look elsewhere? I know that Xubuntu exists but that doesn't mean that every other new linux user does, they just know that Ubuntu is supposed to be the best linux distribution in existence.
My mention of windows was to compare it to the the graphical installer, actually, how did you misread my comment to relate to the text mode installer, i was talking about this "most welcome feature".
This feature makes it impossible to even boot, let alone install, ubuntu on lesser hardware, there has never been a version of windows, that i've seen, that has such over the top minimum requirements just for the installation stage.
I can see the perceived value of a LiveCD but with one as heavy as Ubuntu's things are just painful, as for the idea of having OO.o on there, hmmm. I've used many liveCDs in the past and never found them as slow.
Why can't they put an optional text mode installer on the standard disc rather than requiring an alternative install CD? Of course they may well have done just that, my download of 7.04 hasn't finished yet.
So why OS/2 and not Linux or similar, this seems like a very odd choice to me, OS/2 being less well supported thesedays while still being a closed and commercial venture. It sounds like the OS/2 community are getting excited at the prospect of a WINE port at the moment, I wonder what that says about the state of things...
Well that's the point, i'd like to think that advertising, no matter how clever it is, will not convince me that i want or need a product in which i've had no previous interest. I don't enjoy watching adverts and thankfully most of the television i watch has no advertising but i generally don't do go out of my way to avoid them because i don't perceive any risk from ad exposure, and struggle to understand those who do, considering that they're already acutely aware of the purpose and presence of advertising.
I really don't understand why there should be a requirement to pay for upgrades of tracks that their customers have already paid for in DRM encumbered form, obviously it makes sense to squeeze more money out of the poor sods, sorry, meant to say "customers", if apple and their allies can justify it. Is this an admission that the product these users have been sold in the past was of a low standard and so less valuable than non DRM'ed music?
Funnily enough this behaviour isn't mirrored by windows when you use the windows FOSS content on the CD, if the user has chosen to boot the liveCD in the first place i wouldn't be so concerned about them forgetting to remove the disc at reboot.
The LiveCD approach is nice but for certain users i've a feeling that having a bootable linux disc could really scare them if they accidentally leave it in the machine when they shut down, the other thing is that it might be nice to have OpenOffice.org for windows on the disc, it's quite an important part of the transition for most windows users. That's not to say that handing out LiveCDs is a bad idea though, having both a dedicated Windows FOSS disc and a liveCD available is probably the best solution.
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ZOMG, seriously? You could even just use the tungsten or incandescent preset.
the point is that dSLRs often have a nasty tendency to get AutoWB badly wrong in tungsten light and most people don't want to mess around with manual white balance from a grey card or shooting in raw.
Oh, you're a canon user, my primes are old Pentax M series ones so they're actually considerably cheaper than buying modern low quality zooms. I Also use a nice A series zoom, which admitedly spends an awful lot of time on my camera, quite a lot but tend to prefer working with a good prime when it makes sense, zooms make for very lazy photographers ;).
Heh, the one thing i hate more than over unsharpened images, bad "HDR" tonemapped images with massive halos! :)
My Norwegian Grandmother _is_ a coalminer, you insensitive clod!
It is actually quite surprising what you can do with a small transparent plastic bead some 800ASA film and high intensity flash, single use cameras never cease to amaze me.
They already did/ 6116/samsung-mobile-phone-camera-10mp.phtml
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/5092
I've never met a dSLR that does digital zoom, do such things exist? I use primes on my dSLR all the time, should i not? Camera phones generally do digital zoom but then there are some very impressive ones available in korea that have real zoom lenses.
When the white balance is as badly wrong as the dSLR in this test got it even with post processing getting a JPEG's colours to look realistic again can be problematic.
Oh how i wish i had mod points! :)
Well, an awful lot of dSLR users do just put photos on flickr, but the thing is that you can't attach a Tamron 70-300 and marvel at Teh B0keH! while ignoring the god awful CA and softness and being patted on the back by dozens of cretinous flickr users if all you have is a camera phone...
Christ man, but the Unsharp mask down and step away from the camera! There's a point at which postprocessing becomes over the top.
Of course if you're using primes that zoom range disappears, and for low light conditions you'd better be using a nice prime, considering that most trashy kit lenses run to f/5.6(!!?!?!!) at the long end.
Camera phones do an excellent job in night mode of picking up detail that my dSLR might struggle with, of course the end results are only any good as snaps but if that was the idea that's good enough.
remember that a dSLR with a f/1.7 50mm lens has pretty shallow depth of field, then consider that the camera phone is what, f/2.8 3.8mm, that reduces the need to focuss on anything in particular.
Not that i would ever use a camera phone for low light photography, i like my Pentax-M f/1.7 50mm far too much, but i can certainly see why they could be appealing.
*looks at the article*...
what's this about colours, don't they know about white balance?
I've been using Ubuntu with Netgear WG511 cards since breezy and it's always just worked, i'm not a big fan of ubuntu but that impressed me, now I upgrade to feisty because i've finally started to trust Ubuntu a little, great, my wireless card is no longer supported, splendid! So much for a well tested reliable OS every 6 months, can't they wait a little longer to make sure they get it right, is a disruptive upgrade every 6 months absolutely necessary? And no, LTS is not an option, i would quite like to have packages for the latest software, not backported security updates.
Does anyone else have a similar card and trouble with 7.04, If there's a fix i'll be very happy.
Fair enough.
Are you karma whoring or just not paying attention?
So if my lesser hardware can't boot the liveCD in a timely manner or run a modern linux desktop from a compressed CD without swap i shouldn't run Ubuntu proper on it at all? Should i just discount Ubuntu, and by association Linux, as bloatware and look elsewhere? I know that Xubuntu exists but that doesn't mean that every other new linux user does, they just know that Ubuntu is supposed to be the best linux distribution in existence.
My mention of windows was to compare it to the the graphical installer, actually, how did you misread my comment to relate to the text mode installer, i was talking about this "most welcome feature".
This feature makes it impossible to even boot, let alone install, ubuntu on lesser hardware, there has never been a version of windows, that i've seen, that has such over the top minimum requirements just for the installation stage.
I can see the perceived value of a LiveCD but with one as heavy as Ubuntu's things are just painful, as for the idea of having OO.o on there, hmmm. I've used many liveCDs in the past and never found them as slow.
Why can't they put an optional text mode installer on the standard disc rather than requiring an alternative install CD? Of course they may well have done just that, my download of 7.04 hasn't finished yet.
So CentOS doesn't require compilation of modules for VMWare server whereas Ubuntu does, where's the war?
Heh, thanks for pointing that one out, i didn't think to look.
So why OS/2 and not Linux or similar, this seems like a very odd choice to me, OS/2 being less well supported thesedays while still being a closed and commercial venture. It sounds like the OS/2 community are getting excited at the prospect of a WINE port at the moment, I wonder what that says about the state of things...
Well that's the point, i'd like to think that advertising, no matter how clever it is, will not convince me that i want or need a product in which i've had no previous interest. I don't enjoy watching adverts and thankfully most of the television i watch has no advertising but i generally don't do go out of my way to avoid them because i don't perceive any risk from ad exposure, and struggle to understand those who do, considering that they're already acutely aware of the purpose and presence of advertising.
I really don't understand why there should be a requirement to pay for upgrades of tracks that their customers have already paid for in DRM encumbered form, obviously it makes sense to squeeze more money out of the poor sods, sorry, meant to say "customers", if apple and their allies can justify it. Is this an admission that the product these users have been sold in the past was of a low standard and so less valuable than non DRM'ed music?
Not only is it possible to bring the OMGponify /. again, but it's very simple with the use of Slashdotter, the firefox extension.
Read your slashdot the way it was meant to be read, in PINK!!! OMG Ponies!
I think it does some other slashdot related bits and pieces but hey, it's nothing more important than omgponies!
Funnily enough this behaviour isn't mirrored by windows when you use the windows FOSS content on the CD, if the user has chosen to boot the liveCD in the first place i wouldn't be so concerned about them forgetting to remove the disc at reboot.
The LiveCD approach is nice but for certain users i've a feeling that having a bootable linux disc could really scare them if they accidentally leave it in the machine when they shut down, the other thing is that it might be nice to have OpenOffice.org for windows on the disc, it's quite an important part of the transition for most windows users. That's not to say that handing out LiveCDs is a bad idea though, having both a dedicated Windows FOSS disc and a liveCD available is probably the best solution.