traceroute www.google.com
traceroute to www.google.com (216.239.39.101), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.24.20.1 (10.24.20.1) 9.121 ms 9.210 ms 8.303 ms
2 64.8.26.181 (64.8.26.181) 44.613 ms 57.186 ms 42.018 ms
3 * pos4-1.atlaga-rdra-12012.network.adelphia.net (64.8.29.21) 57.768 ms 57.855 ms
4 64.31.165.5 (64.31.165.5) 58.291 ms 59.304 ms 61.010 ms
5 g1-01-01-00.r0.atl00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.8.129) 58.422 ms 58.060 ms 56.800 ms
6 p3-00-00-00.n0.atl00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.0.153) 57.179 ms 57.970 ms 60.256 ms
7 p3-01-00-00.n0.dfw00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.0.42) 174.196 ms 170.004 ms 181.733 ms
8 p3-00-00-00.r0.dfw00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.0.162) 173.533 ms 160.412 ms 161.412 ms
9 g1-00-00-00.p0.dfw00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.12.134) 190.102 ms 194.379 ms 184.732 ms
10 gige2-1.ipcolo2.Dallas1.Level3.net (63.209.52.29) 76.265 ms 82.895 ms 72.048 ms
11 gigabitethernet10-1.core2.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.244.15.93) 208.883 ms 206.346 ms 201.294 ms
12 so-4-1-0.mp1.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.10.101) 201.066 ms 188.350 ms 191.650 ms
13 so-2-0-0.mp1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (209.247.9.101) 109.953 ms 100.636 ms 90.853 ms
14 pos8-0.core1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (64.159.3.61) 195.262 ms 198.953 ms 213.312 ms
15 ibr01-p4-2.atln01.exodus.net (216.32.173.93) 94.742 ms 99.184 ms 98.512 ms
16 * bbr01-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.3) 118.818 ms 111.173 ms
17 bbr01-p6-0.hrnd01.exodus.net (206.79.9.50) 90.123 ms 92.802 ms 94.748 ms
18 bbr02-p3-0.stng02.exodus.net (209.185.9.6) 231.742 ms 239.661 ms 269.740 ms
19 dcr02-g6-0.stng02.exodus.net (216.109.66.18) 108.365 ms 105.298 ms 106.106 ms
20 csr11-ve241.stng02.exodus.net (216.109.66.90) 122.579 ms 106.648 ms 107.881 ms
21 216.109.88.218 (216.109.88.218) 257.743 ms * 222.943 ms
22 dcbi1-gige-1-1.net.google.com (216.239.47.46) 107.629 ms 112.755 ms 124.901 ms
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *
Gotta love adelphia's network. It's gotten worse since they dropped sprintlink.
good idea! Unfortunatly, you'd be arrested as a subversiveterrorist. I still like my idea about the random text, tho:
Base64 MSG to my comrades:
pX76tCvh+b7BKkXYq+orW4my3WjP5t8Z5ApK769DnWGuKO6r f9 +dcJxu50rQoTex6pUXChsd
yQBW9nC1DSo73ZilQgAub2KFWEQ0VnVBvcsvG/NqmupLg1pB Ea 0rgOmDliRoVht+FBlxB9Ey
NOTE: I use netBSD, but the packages system is based off of the freebsd ports system.
(taken from the DESCR file from/usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/sh-utils)
These are the GNU shell utilities. Most of these programs have significant advantages over their Unix counterparts, such as greater speed, additional options, and fewera rbitrary limits.
Kind of like how the earth was destroyed by the Vogons 15 minutes before the ultimate question would have been produced? If only the mice had compiled the world with the SavePlanetState() function . . .
Re:That is so exciting *yawn*
on
Debian NetBSD
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· Score: 1
which piece of news do you think is more insignificant ?
well, what's significant is that we can run NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on . . . .
It won't make surfing the web any faster for these people. We'll experience the same phenomenon as with hardware/software. As the hardware gets faster, the software gets more bloated; as connections improve, there'll be more flash crap, stupid sounds, etc. You think X10 ads are annoying now? Wait 'till they start SPEAKING at you.
No, I meant deep thought. Deep thought will be built eventually, to program the Great Computer. =) But when it's done doing that, I'm sure it could kick the arse of deep blue any day of the week, even thursdays.
Whereas most engines pick moves based on score, not very hard at all. Each machine would be given a move(and perhaps a reply, if enough machines existed), and would come back with the score of that move, with possible followup moves.
I think it could be done.
I'd like to see a distributed chess engine. I think it would be fun to pit us against Deep Thought. It's kinda off topic, but something I've been thinking about.
$230 a month seems like a lot to pay for cable. It is. 20 years ago, we wouldn't have paid $100 for cable. What's happened? Internet access at an average of 45/month, +basic cable and a few premium chans at another 45 a month, and maybe a few movies to round that out.
Up next: local phone service, to be offered first in Florida later this year and
eventually in New York, though no firm time frame has been set, Luftman said.
Here in Scranton, phone service with unlimited local calls, call waiting, call forwarding, three way calling, caller ID, runs you $50 a month.
And then there's long distance. LOTS of money for TW to be made in long distance.
Over the next 12 months, the cable division plans to aggressively launch video on
demand, allowing customers who have digital set top boxes to order from hundreds of movies
with a flick of their remote control.
Why goto the video store when you can get what you want at home at a comparable price? Right now, pay-per-view movie selection is crappy at best. Think of how you download movies from FTP sites now, and watch them on your PC. Imagine having the same capability with your bigscreen in your living room. Pick from a list of 1000 movies or so, and they charge you a nominal fee for it at the end of the month. No worries about late fees, crappy encoding.
Disclamers: IDNHCTVOLT, IANATWE(I do not have cable TV or landline telephone, I am not a time warner executive)
Hate to break it to you, but the current traffic laws are all about $$$. Plain and simple. You lock up a repeat offender like that, he COSTS you money. You leave him out on the street to do little minor infractions, and he MAKES you money, in the way of fines, etc.
Is whether you can make a bong out of a Linux Box. Or is it can you run Linux on a bong? Help! I'm confused!!;-P
Not with linux, but we're taking the NetBSD/Toaster port and converting it to bong. So far, we've been able to get it to boot, but the smoke gets to us, and we get "confused",
just like you.
NetBSD, It'll run on anything!
Bill Gates' Microsoft Corporation -- has achieved such a dominant role in the global computer industry that it presents a serious threat to further competition, innovation, and entrepreneurship.
But that's what embrace and extend is for. They take the new ideas, and under their great leadership, make sure the concepts are deployed properly, sanely, and then fully supported after release to the general public.
You mean to tell me that the people who couldn't figure out where the russian space station was going to crash into the earth, which was a CONTROLLED decent of an object of known mass, will be able to calculate where a giant rock that they don't know the shape or exact mass of, will land, when it's 30 days away?
I'm not trying to be a troll, but it does cite a past real world situation.
(taken from the gamma ray burst scenario)
killing off the tiny photosynthetic plankton in the ocean that provide oxygen to the atmosphere and bolster the bottom of the food chain.
I disagree here. While the increased UV would cause things on land to die, UV is dissipated rather quickly when it hits the water. Only the first few inches would be cooked. Photosynthisis takes place even at MUCH deeper depths.
Why not just use/etc/inetd.conf to call the webserver, as a non-priv user. As far as root being all powerful, it's a necessity. Don't like it, that's what wheel is for. Set group IDs, and group permissions, that's what they're there for. You can't get rid of root, just like you can't get rid of rm -rf /
.. runs your Linux binaries (if you can't get source)..
.. runs your FreeBSD binaries (if you can't get source)..
.. remember most "Linux" code is just generic UNIX C..
.. Be safe, run OpenBSD.
Whereas, I'm working on porting this virus to NetBSD, and putting it in the pkgsrc collection, so it can be enjoyed on a VAX, an Amiga, hey, you name it! You too can feel "cool" when your alpha gets infected. Who says the only people who get viruses are those running intel boxen with windows!
And for the netBSD/toaster port, I guess I'll just have to make it burn the toast on one side, and leave the other side raw.
So, I see defense of Linux already. But why not place some blame on those who made this security hole? One of the major things Linux has going for it is it's lack of security flaws, and lack of virii.
But it's not a hole. It's the "beauty of unix security". You can do what you want as root, and pay the consequencecs, or run as non-privilidged luser, and only screw up your own files. What **I'm** waiting for, is the *nix virus that binds to non-privilidged ports, infects normal lusers(by looking for permissive permissions in pathed directories)
Unless you have other functions as well, your job as sysadmin is to keep the system running as often as possible - this means fixing problems as quickly as possible, and also keeping the system maintainable by other admins. Using any given scripting language - especially on a *nix platform - will let you carry out any standard sysadmin task quickly, efficiently, and in a way that is easy for admins less talented than yourself to understand. So in a non-development shop, you should certainly feel free to learn asm for the joy of learning (I intend to), but don't use it on the job.
Homework:
Please do the following with a scripting language of choice:
Set numlock to high and capslock to low
send an init string to a modem that reports carrier detect high by default
do a "warm up" read to a drive
each require about 10 easy lines of asm code, or some screwing around in scripting languages. I'm not saying that asm is the be all and end all of languages, it's not very portable. But it's nice for little hacks.
not like this?
traceroute www.google.com
traceroute to www.google.com (216.239.39.101), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.24.20.1 (10.24.20.1) 9.121 ms 9.210 ms 8.303 ms
2 64.8.26.181 (64.8.26.181) 44.613 ms 57.186 ms 42.018 ms
3 * pos4-1.atlaga-rdra-12012.network.adelphia.net (64.8.29.21) 57.768 ms 57.855 ms
4 64.31.165.5 (64.31.165.5) 58.291 ms 59.304 ms 61.010 ms
5 g1-01-01-00.r0.atl00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.8.129) 58.422 ms 58.060 ms 56.800 ms
6 p3-00-00-00.n0.atl00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.0.153) 57.179 ms 57.970 ms 60.256 ms
7 p3-01-00-00.n0.dfw00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.0.42) 174.196 ms 170.004 ms 181.733 ms
8 p3-00-00-00.r0.dfw00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.0.162) 173.533 ms 160.412 ms 161.412 ms
9 g1-00-00-00.p0.dfw00.adelphiacom.net (66.109.12.134) 190.102 ms 194.379 ms 184.732 ms
10 gige2-1.ipcolo2.Dallas1.Level3.net (63.209.52.29) 76.265 ms 82.895 ms 72.048 ms
11 gigabitethernet10-1.core2.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.244.15.93) 208.883 ms 206.346 ms 201.294 ms
12 so-4-1-0.mp1.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.10.101) 201.066 ms 188.350 ms 191.650 ms
13 so-2-0-0.mp1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (209.247.9.101) 109.953 ms 100.636 ms 90.853 ms
14 pos8-0.core1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (64.159.3.61) 195.262 ms 198.953 ms 213.312 ms
15 ibr01-p4-2.atln01.exodus.net (216.32.173.93) 94.742 ms 99.184 ms 98.512 ms
16 * bbr01-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.3) 118.818 ms 111.173 ms
17 bbr01-p6-0.hrnd01.exodus.net (206.79.9.50) 90.123 ms 92.802 ms 94.748 ms
18 bbr02-p3-0.stng02.exodus.net (209.185.9.6) 231.742 ms 239.661 ms 269.740 ms
19 dcr02-g6-0.stng02.exodus.net (216.109.66.18) 108.365 ms 105.298 ms 106.106 ms
20 csr11-ve241.stng02.exodus.net (216.109.66.90) 122.579 ms 106.648 ms 107.881 ms
21 216.109.88.218 (216.109.88.218) 257.743 ms * 222.943 ms
22 dcbi1-gige-1-1.net.google.com (216.239.47.46) 107.629 ms 112.755 ms 124.901 ms
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *
Gotta love adelphia's network. It's gotten worse since they dropped sprintlink.
REQUIREMENT for them to do the FreeBSD thing
FWIW: Just because they code it doesn't mean they will release it.
good idea! Unfortunatly, you'd be arrested as a subversiveterrorist. I still like my idea about the random text, tho:
r f9 +dcJxu50rQoTex6pUXChsd
B Ea 0rgOmDliRoVht+FBlxB9Ey
Base64 MSG to my comrades:
pX76tCvh+b7BKkXYq+orW4my3WjP5t8Z5ApK769DnWGuKO6
yQBW9nC1DSo73ZilQgAub2KFWEQ0VnVBvcsvG/NqmupLg1p
NOTE: I use netBSD, but the packages system is based off of the freebsd ports system.
/usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/sh-utils)
(taken from the DESCR file from
These are the GNU shell utilities. Most of these programs have significant advantages over their Unix counterparts, such as greater speed, additional options, and fewera rbitrary limits.
Meta-keys, my friend. [meta]-o is the "é". You might need to type it in an xterm, if your app has the key bound to something weird.
Kind of like how the earth was destroyed by the Vogons 15 minutes before the ultimate question would have been produced? If only the mice had compiled the world with the SavePlanetState() function . . .
which piece of news do you think is more insignificant ?
well, what's significant is that we can run NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on NetBSD on Debian on . . . .
segmentation fault. core dumped.
Awww, shucks. I was having fun
It won't make surfing the web any faster for these people. We'll experience the same phenomenon as with hardware/software. As the hardware gets faster, the software gets more bloated; as connections improve, there'll be more flash crap, stupid sounds, etc. You think X10 ads are annoying now? Wait 'till they start SPEAKING at you.
No, I meant deep thought. Deep thought will be built eventually, to program the Great Computer. =) But when it's done doing that, I'm sure it could kick the arse of deep blue any day of the week, even thursdays.
You're right, I meant deep blue. My apologies
Whereas most engines pick moves based on score, not very hard at all. Each machine would be given a move(and perhaps a reply, if enough machines existed), and would come back with the score of that move, with possible followup moves.
I think it could be done.
I'd like to see a distributed chess engine. I think it would be fun to pit us against Deep Thought. It's kinda off topic, but something I've been thinking about.
But everyone knows . .. .
Real men don't make backups!
Up next: local phone service, to be offered first in Florida later this year and
eventually in New York, though no firm time frame has been set, Luftman said.
Here in Scranton, phone service with unlimited local calls, call waiting, call forwarding, three way calling, caller ID, runs you $50 a month.
And then there's long distance. LOTS of money for TW to be made in long distance.
Over the next 12 months, the cable division plans to aggressively launch video on
demand, allowing customers who have digital set top boxes to order from hundreds of movies
with a flick of their remote control.
Why goto the video store when you can get what you want at home at a comparable price? Right now, pay-per-view movie selection is crappy at best. Think of how you download movies from FTP sites now, and watch them on your PC. Imagine having the same capability with your bigscreen in your living room. Pick from a list of 1000 movies or so, and they charge you a nominal fee for it at the end of the month. No worries about late fees, crappy encoding.
Disclamers: IDNHCTVOLT, IANATWE(I do not have cable TV or landline telephone, I am not a time warner executive)
You must mean a FEATURE, since you and I both know that MS doesn't send out buggy software.
Hate to break it to you, but the current traffic laws are all about $$$. Plain and simple. You lock up a repeat offender like that, he COSTS you money. You leave him out on the street to do little minor infractions, and he MAKES you money, in the way of fines, etc.
Is whether you can make a bong out of a Linux Box. Or is it can you run Linux on a bong? Help! I'm confused!! ;-P
Not with linux, but we're taking the NetBSD/Toaster port and converting it to bong. So far, we've been able to get it to boot, but the smoke gets to us, and we get "confused",
just like you.
NetBSD, It'll run on anything!
and all this time it was "Do unto others before they do unto you"
How wrong I was.
Bill Gates' Microsoft Corporation -- has achieved such a dominant role in the global computer industry that it presents a serious threat to further competition, innovation, and entrepreneurship.
But that's what embrace and extend is for. They take the new ideas, and under their great leadership, make sure the concepts are deployed properly, sanely, and then fully supported after release to the general public.
You mean to tell me that the people who couldn't figure out where the russian space station was going to crash into the earth, which was a CONTROLLED decent of an object of known mass, will be able to calculate where a giant rock that they don't know the shape or exact mass of, will land, when it's 30 days away?
I'm not trying to be a troll, but it does cite a past real world situation.
(taken from the gamma ray burst scenario)
killing off the tiny photosynthetic plankton in the ocean that provide oxygen to the atmosphere and bolster the bottom of the food chain.
I disagree here. While the increased UV would cause things on land to die, UV is dissipated rather quickly when it hits the water. Only the first few inches would be cooked. Photosynthisis takes place even at MUCH deeper depths.
Why not just use /etc/inetd.conf to call the webserver, as a non-priv user. As far as root being all powerful, it's a necessity. Don't like it, that's what wheel is for. Set group IDs, and group permissions, that's what they're there for. You can't get rid of root, just like you can't get rid of rm -rf /
.. runs your Linux binaries (if you can't get source)..
.. runs your FreeBSD binaries (if you can't get source)..
.. remember most "Linux" code is just generic UNIX C..
.. Be safe, run OpenBSD.
Whereas, I'm working on porting this virus to NetBSD, and putting it in the pkgsrc collection, so it can be enjoyed on a VAX, an Amiga, hey, you name it! You too can feel "cool" when your alpha gets infected. Who says the only people who get viruses are those running intel boxen with windows!
And for the netBSD/toaster port, I guess I'll just have to make it burn the toast on one side, and leave the other side raw.
So, I see defense of Linux already. But why not place some blame on those who made this security hole? One of the major things Linux has going for it is it's lack of security flaws, and lack of virii.
But it's not a hole. It's the "beauty of unix security". You can do what you want as root, and pay the consequencecs, or run as non-privilidged luser, and only screw up your own files. What **I'm** waiting for, is the *nix virus that binds to non-privilidged ports, infects normal lusers(by looking for permissive permissions in pathed directories)
Unless you have other functions as well, your job as sysadmin is to keep the system running as often as possible - this means fixing problems as quickly as possible, and also keeping the system maintainable by other admins. Using any given scripting language - especially on a *nix platform - will let you carry out any standard sysadmin task quickly, efficiently, and in a way that is easy for admins less talented than yourself to understand. So in a non-development shop, you should certainly feel free to learn asm for the joy of learning (I intend to), but don't use it on the job.
Homework:
Please do the following with a scripting language of choice:
Set numlock to high and capslock to low
send an init string to a modem that reports carrier detect high by default
do a "warm up" read to a drive
each require about 10 easy lines of asm code, or some screwing around in scripting languages. I'm not saying that asm is the be all and end all of languages, it's not very portable. But it's nice for little hacks.
None of this involves drinking copious quantities of fermented grape juice
and being a geek doesn't mean you have to love coffee, kernel hacker, guiness? What BLASPHEMY!
Although I am a fan of the stout
and so what if you never have sex again
damnit, I was hoping being a geek would get me laid.