my former bank did this to me also. I caught them holding out cash deposits in order to charge me overdraft fees. I wouldn't be able to prove it in court, but we all know that's what happened.
I closed the account as soon as I could and took my business elsewhere.
Not at all, and here's why: 49% of us attempted to do something about him in the election. Nobody ever does anything about these religious crackpots except pay lip service to the notion that they don't represent all christians.
Hate may breed hate, but you can't justify hate with any creed, especially one which is marketed as a path towards inner peace. The only thing churches do is teach you reasons for hating other people and pumping up your own self-esteem.
Furthermore, the concept of "sin" is a construct created by ruling priests to induce guilt and thus obedience in followers. That's so obvious to me that I don't understand how otherwise logical people can fall for it.
Stop putting undue pressure on him. christians don't organize their thoughts, the hebrews and early christians did that for them 4000 years ago and 2000 years ago, respectively.
I would never work a suit-and-tie-everyday job, but I have no problem with wearing one to a job interview.
To some extent wearing a suit is a show of respect to the people you're meeting with. It also is an easy answer to the question of what to wear to the interview.
But you have demonstrated your own variety of intolerance, which I wish you could see, because there are so many more like you out there who cannot see themselves objectively. I see no honor in tolerating pure hatred.
Your god is a god of war and destruction. I wish you could see that.
People often talk about "Christians" as if they were all of one mind. That's as silly as saying "all Americans believe this" or "all black people think that". People interpret the bible and the teachings of respected elders differently, so it is very common for people who all believe they are following the teachings of Christ to have very different opinions on some matters. This is one of those matters. Then stop placing yourself in the same group as this guy. Stop calling yourself Christian. Call yourself Anglican, or a follower of Christ, but do everything you can to distance yourself from these types of people.
Unless you really agree with him and merely find his methods distasteful?
then why aren't you doing something about all these people that are giving you a bad name? is it that "the meek shall inherit the earth" horseshit that's keeping you from taking action?
Personally, I find the slander of Christians on this board no different from the slander of gays that you hear from some supposed Christians. It's disgusting and pathetic - -from whoever does it to whoever is the target. I'll stop if you stop:)
Oh wait, saying that homosexuality is a mortal sin and that this "pastor" isn't slander in your world, is it?
Religion is just an excuse for bigotry. Some also require groupthink or the forsaking of intellectual pursuits. Others don't, but that doesn't make them any more enlightened, just better at marketing to prospective members.
Don't let a bunch of loud mouths make you think all of Christiandom is a bad thing.
I'm not. I'm letting a bunch of loudmouths and almost 30 years of living in the bible belt, where every single person I've met that describes themselves as a christian has also been a hardcore bigot, make me think that.
My opinion might be harsh and heavily biased, but it's not just based on what I see in the news. I've lived around this shit all my life and I've been discriminated against myself for being a non-christian.
But then why do no mainstream christian groups ever take action against people like this? Kick him out of the church, make sure that his voice is never heard again? It's not like that can't be done. Look at how atheists are treated.
If christians really thought this guy was wrong this story wouldn't even exist. They all agree with him, whether they know it or not.
Sure, you can be gay at work without anyone knowing... if you never talk about your personal life... and you laugh along with everyone else when someone makes a "faggot" joke... and you express the same level of admiration for this week's actress or calendar model of choice... and you never refer to your partner in any way that sounds like you aren't "just friends"...
replace gay with atheist and faggot with heathen and you have my life. Here in the midwest, I find myself having to pretend to be a christian just to survive, sometimes.
why don't real christians band together and have fuckers like him excommunicated and arrested?
I suspect it's because more people that call themselves "christian" agree with him than you think they do.
In my mind, just being a christian is endorsement of this guy and Fred Phelps and George W. Bush and all of the other fundamentalist cocksuckers out there that want to throw out the constitution and replace it with the bible.
Lasseiz-faire libertarians don't realize that capitalism in and of itself does not provide social structure. Capitalism is just regimented greed. A government needs to be on hand to keep the capitalists from oppressing the people.
Then, the people need to keep the government from oppressing them. But then the government pays companies to develop drugs that make you happy no matter how shitty your life really is (SSRIs, the new super-tranqs like Ativan, etc.) and so the government with their capitalist allies assfuck the nation.
Since moving to Java the main thing I've been doing is getting into arguments about what belongs in what object. As such, your message is either a very subtle play on OO pedantry or naturally ironic.
No, here's the /. knock-knock joke:
Knock knock
Who's there?
In Korea, only old people knock.
In Soviet Russia, door Knocks you!
Profit!!
that would reflect favorably upon MS and thus not acceptable on this website.
my former bank did this to me also. I caught them holding out cash deposits in order to charge me overdraft fees. I wouldn't be able to prove it in court, but we all know that's what happened.
I closed the account as soon as I could and took my business elsewhere.
I am a proud Christian, and I do not endorse this person.
So why do you tolerate them?
Furthermore, I have a problem with politicians who use the bible as a platform for their political agendas.
Then please stand up to them.
Talk is cheap.
Not at all, and here's why: 49% of us attempted to do something about him in the election. Nobody ever does anything about these religious crackpots except pay lip service to the notion that they don't represent all christians.
Thanks for the support.
Not when the neighbor isn't worthy of loving.
Hate may breed hate, but you can't justify hate with any creed, especially one which is marketed as a path towards inner peace. The only thing churches do is teach you reasons for hating other people and pumping up your own self-esteem.
Furthermore, the concept of "sin" is a construct created by ruling priests to induce guilt and thus obedience in followers. That's so obvious to me that I don't understand how otherwise logical people can fall for it.
Thank you for the relatively reasoned response.
For God's sake, organize your thoughts.
Stop putting undue pressure on him. christians don't organize their thoughts, the hebrews and early christians did that for them 4000 years ago and 2000 years ago, respectively.
I would never work a suit-and-tie-everyday job, but I have no problem with wearing one to a job interview.
To some extent wearing a suit is a show of respect to the people you're meeting with. It also is an easy answer to the question of what to wear to the interview.
well said. you get an imaginary +1 insightful.
No fallacy about it. How about you stop being guilty by association?
Silly Christian. If you can use "faith" as a logical crutch, I can use "opinion". It's the same thing, after all.
But you have demonstrated your own variety of intolerance, which I wish you could see, because there are so many more like you out there who cannot see themselves objectively.
I see no honor in tolerating pure hatred.
Your god is a god of war and destruction. I wish you could see that.
People often talk about "Christians" as if they were all of one mind. That's as silly as saying "all Americans believe this" or "all black people think that". People interpret the bible and the teachings of respected elders differently, so it is very common for people who all believe they are following the teachings of Christ to have very different opinions on some matters. This is one of those matters.
Then stop placing yourself in the same group as this guy. Stop calling yourself Christian. Call yourself Anglican, or a follower of Christ, but do everything you can to distance yourself from these types of people.
Unless you really agree with him and merely find his methods distasteful?
every generalization is an over-generalization, so the word itself is redundant.
If cnn.com ran a front page poll that said "should atheists be allowed to be US citizens", how much do you want to bet me that the answer would be no?
then why aren't you doing something about all these people that are giving you a bad name? is it that "the meek shall inherit the earth" horseshit that's keeping you from taking action?
Personally, I find the slander of Christians on this board no different from the slander of gays that you hear from some supposed Christians. It's disgusting and pathetic - -from whoever does it to whoever is the target. :)
I'll stop if you stop
Oh wait, saying that homosexuality is a mortal sin and that this "pastor" isn't slander in your world, is it?
Religion is just an excuse for bigotry. Some also require groupthink or the forsaking of intellectual pursuits. Others don't, but that doesn't make them any more enlightened, just better at marketing to prospective members.
Don't let a bunch of loud mouths make you think all of Christiandom is a bad thing.
I'm not. I'm letting a bunch of loudmouths and almost 30 years of living in the bible belt, where every single person I've met that describes themselves as a christian has also been a hardcore bigot, make me think that.
My opinion might be harsh and heavily biased, but it's not just based on what I see in the news. I've lived around this shit all my life and I've been discriminated against myself for being a non-christian.
But then why do no mainstream christian groups ever take action against people like this? Kick him out of the church, make sure that his voice is never heard again? It's not like that can't be done. Look at how atheists are treated.
If christians really thought this guy was wrong this story wouldn't even exist. They all agree with him, whether they know it or not.
Sure, you can be gay at work without anyone knowing... if you never talk about your personal life... and you laugh along with everyone else when someone makes a "faggot" joke... and you express the same level of admiration for this week's actress or calendar model of choice... and you never refer to your partner in any way that sounds like you aren't "just friends"...
replace gay with atheist and faggot with heathen and you have my life. Here in the midwest, I find myself having to pretend to be a christian just to survive, sometimes.
why don't real christians band together and have fuckers like him excommunicated and arrested?
I suspect it's because more people that call themselves "christian" agree with him than you think they do.
In my mind, just being a christian is endorsement of this guy and Fred Phelps and George W. Bush and all of the other fundamentalist cocksuckers out there that want to throw out the constitution and replace it with the bible.
Careful there, people will think you're guilty of drug evasion...
My point exactly.
Lasseiz-faire libertarians don't realize that capitalism in and of itself does not provide social structure. Capitalism is just regimented greed. A government needs to be on hand to keep the capitalists from oppressing the people.
Then, the people need to keep the government from oppressing them. But then the government pays companies to develop drugs that make you happy no matter how shitty your life really is (SSRIs, the new super-tranqs like Ativan, etc.) and so the government with their capitalist allies assfuck the nation.
Since moving to Java the main thing I've been doing is getting into arguments about what belongs in what object. As such, your message is either a very subtle play on OO pedantry or naturally ironic.
BTW, if you are convicted of a Felony, you forfit your right to vote. Gee, how fitting.
Makes it really easy to get rid of voting by making everyone a felon. Like voting matters, anyway.