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Lucas Confirms Star Wars spin-off TV series

Mictian writes "In a rare public appearance at the Star Wars Celebration III (his previous fan event appearance was in 1987), George Lucas confirmed that he's working on two TV series. One will be a full 3D animation series (with 30-minute episodes) of the recent Cartoon Network Clone Wars shorts, and the other a live-action series, that will be set in the time between Episodes III and IV, but won't feature the main characters. Production is expected to begin in about a year."

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  1. first groan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    fg

    1. Re:first groan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry everyone, but I really need to remodel the ranch! I'm sure you understand.

      Cheers,
      George

    2. Re:first groan by stretch0611 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You may have the first groan, but it definately will not be the last.

      And don't forget, while everone here is groaning at hearing there childhood classics being flushed, Lucas is bringing another huge wad of money to the bank.

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    3. Re:first groan by gg3po · · Score: 0

      For a limited time, you can get a special sneak peek of the new series!

      Note to mods: Intended to be humorous.

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    4. Re:first groan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine Padme groans when Anakin force-chokes her to death.

    5. Re:first groan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note to mods: Intended to be humorous.

      It isn't funny if you have to explain it.

    6. Re:first groan by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I felt a great disturbance in the Force...as if a million voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

    7. Re:first groan by cno3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Silenced? This is Slashdot. We'll be bitchng about Lucas from here to Episode XVIII.

    8. Re:first groan by Striikerr · · Score: 3, Funny

      They can blend old Sit Coms with StarWars characters.. Imagine Jar-Jar as J.J. on Good Times. "Meezah Kid-Dy-no-myte!" Or cast Yoda as Gary Coleman's character on Different Stokes. "What-you-talkin' 'bout Vader?" Heck, even Chewie could play the role of Archie Bunker on a spin off of All in the Family.."Rahhhh! Rahhhhhhhh!"... Well, that last one will need work.. You get the picture.

    9. Re:first groan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen plenty of posts I thought were hilarious that the moderators didn't quite 'get'.

  2. Final Movies by wed128 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?

    1. Re:Final Movies by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 1

      Who says he won't? He does, but then the cash cow will slow its moo'ing for him again in another five, ten years and he'll just build the rest of them.

      I wouldn't mind if he'd let Spielberg direct one. Or them all. Or just remake the entire set from scratch as actually GREAT movies.

    2. Re:Final Movies by cparisi · · Score: 1

      I dunno, maybe because there *are* no more movies?

    3. Re:Final Movies by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, "Young Indiana Jones" was pretty good Tee Vee, until it got too expensive to produce.

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    4. Re:Final Movies by Minute+Work · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's because the Star Wars universe consists of more than just the movies. After the original trilogy many novels have been written about what happens to the characters after "Return of the Jedi." All of the plotlines in these novels are approved by George Lucuas himself. Therefore, if he were to create sequels, they would either A) make the novels no longer relevant since he's making movies that don't reflect those stories, or B) He would just be making the novels into movies. (Timothy Zhan's sp?) Admiral Thrawn series would be excellent.

      While all of these novels were being created, Lucas publication arm would not allow any to be made Pre "A New Hope" because he always intended to make movies out of the back-story. Therefore the new movies haven't bungled up the universe or plotlines (at least not much). In fact the only books I recall that centered around pre-episode 4 content was the Han Solo trilogy that is a pretty good set of books that tells Han Solo's back story from about age 17 to right about the time he walks into the cantina in episode 4.

      I hope this helps.

    5. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because he ran out of good ideas 3 movies ago.

    6. Re:Final Movies by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Funny
      " Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?"

      Are you kidding? Have you seen how badly Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill have AGED. I definitely don't want to see her in that gold bikini again....not as grandma Leia....

      :-)

      I'd think they later movies would have to have the original actors in them to some extent...but, man, they'd have to spend a lot of $$'s on makeup for those two...Harrison Ford could probably still be on film and look ok..but, whew..those other two...

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    7. Re:Final Movies by tubamannP · · Score: 1

      Nah, he'd rather upgrade the first episodes :)

    8. Re:Final Movies by martian265 · · Score: 1

      Lucas only had 6 episodes in mind when he pitched the idea to the movie studios (there are several good interviews with him on this subject on the various DVDs). I think the stories that you are referring to were written as novels by people that were licensed by the movie studio to produce "Star Wars" books.

    9. Re:Final Movies by EverDense · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?

      He promised in a recent interview on Sixty Minutes, that there will be no more movies after Episode 3.
      Whether he will keep that promise is anyone's guess.

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    10. Re:Final Movies by turtled · · Score: 1

      I thought Episode III was the time frame between Episode II and IV??? Now, there needs to be a TV series between III and IV? Is it a Reality show?

      "Mr. Maul, the tribe has spoken..."

      Next week on, Episode III.V Luke "I just can't stand it here anymore, I want to be a Jedi, like my father..." "Luke, that's absourd."

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    11. Re:Final Movies by orin · · Score: 1

      Every time Star Wars is mentioned on Slashdot, someone brings up "make the Zahn books into a movie". The Zahn books would make a terrible trilogy. The second and third books weren't that great. The space battles are not that epic. The final lightsaber duel between clone Luke and Mara? That isn't any way to end a trilogy. The books are good - and after the long drought with no Star Wars, they seemed a lot better than they actually are. They certainly aren't worthy of a trilogy of movies.

    12. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come, now, he's contradicted novels before.

      Read Splinter of the Mind's Eye and realize how far off the mark a Star Wars novel it is!

    13. Re:Final Movies by Trillan · · Score: 1

      I'd go further: I think they're less than "not great" but are in fact activele "bad." I like Zahn as a writer, and I like Star Wars, but the two combined were far less interesting than they should have been. About the best that can be said about them is they set up excellent sequels.

    14. Re:Final Movies by RagingR2 · · Score: 5, Informative

      As far as I know, there are no parts 7,8 and 9 to be filmed. :) Indeed there are such rumours, but that's a common mistake. Lucas originally thought he'd need 9 films to tell the story, but already before he finished filming all 3 of the original movies, he concluded that 6 would be enough. Some form of draft was made for 7, 8 and 9, but they date back from before 5 and 6 were filmed and have now become obsolete. Some of the things were already used in the plots for part 4, 5 and 6, and some of the events described in there have become overruled by what happens in 4, 5 and 6. Think of the original drafts as being a short paragraph each; just a brainstorm for some important events. Oh, sure if you do a Google for those scripts you'll find a lot of stuff. But don't let yourself be fooled, that's all fan fiction or wishful thinking. See also these pages: http://scifi.about.com/library/starwars/bl-sixorni ne.htm http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/gary_kurtz_re veals_original_plans_for_episodes_19_80270.asp Conclusion: even if Lucas *wanted* to make parts 7, 8 and 9, he'd have to go back to the writing table and work out all new stories. He used the best parts from the original drafts to write the scripts for part 5 and 6, and what he didn't use was appearantly rubbish, or has become obsolete and unusable in any case.

    15. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?

      Because there are no "last three movies". Lucas has said time and time again that the Star Wars saga is actually about the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. Since Anakin Skywalker became one with the force at the end of Episode VI that pretty much wraps things up.

    16. Re:Final Movies by shokk · · Score: 1

      Seriously, a remake of Return of the Jedi with bloodthirsty vengeful Wookies would do the series much more good. I really want to see Wookies tear the arms off of stormtroopers after their enslavement.

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    17. Re:Final Movies by j-pimp · · Score: 1

      Auctually all the stuff post Thrawn Trilogy (in regards to publishing not timeline) is considered cannon. Well at least in regards to each other. I believe also in regards to the Dark horse comics as well. The jedi academy trilogy did make mention of Luke turning to the dark side to become a Jedi master.

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    18. Re:Final Movies by Dirtside · · Score: 1
      In fact the only books I recall that centered around pre-episode 4 content was the Han Solo trilogy that is a pretty good set of books that tells Han Solo's back story from about age 17 to right about the time he walks into the cantina in episode 4.
      There was also the Lando Calrissian trilogy:

      - Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu
      - Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon
      - Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka

      It's been a long damn time since I read them, but they were written around the same time (slightly after, I think) as the three Han Solo novels.

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    19. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Don't you mean peripheral sith? Or are you suggesting that Revenge of the Sith contains a typo?

    20. Re:Final Movies by GileadGreene · · Score: 1
      Slightly after. IIRC the Lando books were written by L. Neil Smith. The Han solo trilogy was by Brian Daley and was, IMHO, much better than the Lando trilogy.

      Incidentally, if you enjoyed the Han Solo trilogy you might want to take a look a Daley's "The Adventures of Alacrity Fitzhugh and Hobart Floyt" trilogy. Not set in the Star wars universe, but a fun read all the same (and a similar feel to the Han Solo books).

    21. Re:Final Movies by bigdavex · · Score: 1

      It's because the Star Wars universe consists of more than just the movies. After the original trilogy many novels have been written about what happens to the characters after "Return of the Jedi." All of the plotlines in these novels are approved by George Lucuas himself.

      Between Star Wars and Empire, Alan Dean Foster's Splinter of the Mind's Eye appeared. It was sanctioned as well. It doesn't fit the continuity at all.

      I don't think any of the books or comics would discourage Lucas from doing something different himself.
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    22. Re:Final Movies by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      It's _possible_ that GL had three episodes in mind when he wrote Star Wars, though the movie is written to hedge that bet, since it's pretty self-contained, except for the villain getting away to fight another day. Obviously Empire Strikes Back was written with a finale in mind ...

      But let's not swallow his nonsense about "a trilogy of trilogies", which were more a product of his own grandiose dreams than any actual plan. He started at "Episode IV" as a dramatic device, to drop you into the action, and even called it an "Episode" because it was intended to bring that old-fashioned space opera to the big screen, with all the cheesiness intact. Thus the scrolling-off-to-the-distance text and the wipe cuts everywhere -- it's not like wipe cuts were in vogue even when Star Wars was made.

      All this nonsense about prequels and sequel trilogies was just George riding on his own success.

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    23. Re:Final Movies by KeithGap · · Score: 1

      None of the books are really canon except with each other, sort of, mostly, depending on the publisher at the time.

      George has pretty much said, all that peripheral stuff takes place in some other universe. The movies are the only things I have anything to do with. He doesn't sanction plots. He just says, you can't do x, y, and z because I might do them in a movie sometime and while I want the cash from the spin-offs to make a movie, I don't want someone saying I stole something I did from a book.

    24. Re:Final Movies by unitron · · Score: 1
      "Read Splinter of the Mind's Eye and realize how far off the mark a Star Wars novel it is!"

      Is it "in the mind's eye" or "of the mind's eye"? I can't remember and I can't find my copy that I want to re-read. As I recall it was a pretty good book (especially compared to "Han Solo at Star's End". :-)

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    25. Re:Final Movies by Clock+Nova · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, he didn't even start at "Episode IV." Those words were added retroactively to the intro scroll after he realized Star Wars was going to be sucessful enough to allow him to make more movies. "A New Hope" officially became "Episode IV" after it's first re-release in '79, I think.

      Personally, I'm looking forward to the series. I think if he lets someone else write and direct the episodes, it could be very, very good (both of them). Think about how much better Stargate SG-1 is than the movie it was based on. I remain optimistic.

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    26. Re:Final Movies by kyouteki · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anything that is not in a movie is considered Expanded Universe (EU) and as such has it's own rules of canon. Things that are specifically in the EU and not in movies are not canon in the Star Wars universe proper. Conversely, everything in the movies is canon in the EU.

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    27. Re:Final Movies by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      cannon, as in you should blow the stuff up?

    28. Re:Final Movies by EEBaum · · Score: 1

      Self-preservation. If he were to make 7, 8, and 9, some depressed geek with a ruined childhood is sure to snap and go on an uzi-toting rampage at Skywalker Ranch.

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    29. Re:Final Movies by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1

      Good point, but soon enough it will be possible to have perfectly realistic CG humans (as opposed to fantastic beings like Jar-Jar or Gollum) and then he won't need Fisher and Hamill. He might use them for motion capture work, though.

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    30. Re:Final Movies by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      As far as I know, there are no parts 7,8 and 9 to be filmed. :) Indeed there are such rumours, but that's a common mistake.

      You know, I heard the exact same thing several years ago before Phantom was announced. They completely made clear that the original trilogy was the end. Lucas is a one-trick pony. He'll make the rest, he's got nothing else to go with. The only thing that might screw that up is if he retires.

      Conclusion: even if Lucas *wanted* to make parts 7, 8 and 9, he'd have to go back to the writing table and work out all new stories.

      Damn. There are so many films that don't get made because of the writer not being able to crank out a cliched reshash of other films. /sarcasm

      Look, for the millions of dollars the SW puts in his pocket, I'm sure he'll be willing to dig out his typewriter for a few hours work.

    31. Re:Final Movies by CarpetShark · · Score: 3, Funny
      Are you kidding? Have you seen how badly Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill have AGED. I definitely don't want to see her in that gold bikini again....not as grandma Leia....
      Don't worry, Jennifer Aniston will be happy to do it. I'm sure her acting and genuine interest in the sci-fi genre will be comparable with Fisher's, too ;)
    32. Re:Final Movies by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      He will, in time. Whether he says it or not, he will eventually.

    33. Re:Final Movies by cHALiTO · · Score: 1

      I'd better let Tim Burton do it :)

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    34. Re:Final Movies by gmezero · · Score: 1

      You're on crack. This means nothing. He personally approved and gave his blessing to the daily comic strip that ran in newspapers for a couple of years around 1979 which featured the story of the clone wars, and Obi Wan's journey's before Episode III. Did he stick with any of that. No. There is no such thing as Canon to Lucas. He's completely lacks the concept of continuity or consistancy in story telling and cares nothing for millions he has drug into this fiasco of a story line.

      If he wanted to do 7, 8, and 9, he would just do it and ignore anything printed as he has said in an interview a few years ago that the only thing canon is the movies.

      Your precious books are meaningless. Feel the hatrid swell. Stike me down now and feel the true power of the force!

    35. Re:Final Movies by Wybaar · · Score: 1

      Episode 3 doesn't start the second after episode 2 ended and (probably) won't end the second before episode 4 starts. Even if it did, a galaxy's a pretty big place :) and there's plenty of stories off to the side that could be used for a TV show.

      For instance, the show could cover a group of Rebel explorers who went down to Hoth to set up the base before the main characters of the original trilogy arrived. Alternately, a series showing the adventures of a small Rebel commando team that was dispatched to take care of Imperial forces in remote locations could make for some decent TV. As a third example, imagine what would happen if we transplanted "The Sopranos" into the Star Wars universe -- we have "The Hutts". Any of those could probably manage decent starting ratings, and if they were good enough the Star Wars fan base could easily support shows like that.

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    36. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why doesn't splinter fit the continuity?

      Remember, 3 years passed between ANH and ESB, plenty of time for this to happen.

    37. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, he did.

      Episode 1, 1999
      Episode 2, 2002,
      Episode 3, May 19... where the fuck have you been?

    38. Re:Final Movies by AddressException · · Score: 1

      You aparently know nothing about the Stars Wars universe. I'm not Star Wars fan/geek or read any of the books and even I know there's more story written beyond Ep. 6. Hans and Leah get married, etc, etc..

      Even I know his name is Han! ;)

    39. Re:Final Movies by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1
      It's because the Star Wars universe consists of more than just the movies. After the original trilogy many novels have been written about what happens to the characters after "Return of the Jedi." All of the plotlines in these novels are approved by George Lucuas himself. Therefore, if he were to create sequels, they would either A) make the novels no longer relevant since he's making movies that don't reflect those stories, or B) He would just be making the novels into movies. (Timothy Zhan's sp?) Admiral Thrawn series would be excellent.

      And we know, from the Harry Potter franchise, that there's really no reason to make films out of novels that everybody who would be interested in the film has most likely already read.

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    40. Re:Final Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention *her* name is Leia...

    41. Re:Final Movies by AoT · · Score: 1

      Well there is only one way to hold him to that.

      Who wants to chip in?

  3. too much star wars is not healthy by Janitha · · Score: 1

    I am afraid too much star wars and it might kill the interest of it completley.

    Then again some might argue that you can never have too much star wars.

    1. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by Trix606 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hear Rick Berman is available.

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    2. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by TheViffer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am afraid too much star wars and it might kill the interest of it completley. Nope. Just having the show air at 7:00 CST Friday night on UPN is all that you need.

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    3. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by unsupported · · Score: 1

      Come on, haven't yopu seen the interest that Star Trek has had?

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    4. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by hanshotfirst · · Score: 1
      I am afraid too much star wars and it might kill the interest of it completley.

      I have to agree. For example, look at the Star Trek franchise. I've even lost track of whether the next movie is odd or even, and didn't care to watch Enterprise at all.

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    5. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      I hear Rick Berman is available.

      He isn't.
      He's still working on his next perversion of Star Trek: Another [crappy] movie, another prequel no less. I wonder how big a clue stick would need to be for his masters to understand that HE's what's wrong with the franchise.

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    6. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by unitron · · Score: 1

      Did you by chance see last Friday night's Enterprise? The one set in that alternate universe where Starfleet is more like a pirate armada? It's like they waited until they knew the series was dead to start making good shows. I feel like Charlie Brown getting the football pulled away at the last second.

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    7. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      George Lucas Rick Berman smells like Celebrity Deathmatch with armed crowd to me!

    8. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by Hestas+Coyote · · Score: 1

      Since we're way off topic already.

      The season didn't suddenly become good after the show was cancelled. These stories had already been written and on the board and sent off to the typesetters. Season 4 is a complete turn around, and for one reason only. Manny Coto. Only he was brave enough to do something no one at Paramount ever had the cajonnes to do, and that was get writers who actually knew the subject matter and could write good stories.

      But never fear, as evident in this thread, as well anything remotely sci-fi, Slashdot is full of arm-chair directors, producers, and writers for both silver screen and television.

    9. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by unitron · · Score: 1
      Actually I've enjoyed the series for the most part (of course I also enjoyed some of "Voyager" whilst simultaneously being aware that it mostly stunk on ice), but "mirror, part 1" was so deliciously dark (and minus a lot of the scenery chewing seen in the mirror episodes from TOS and DS9), and, even if it was written before Gene Roddenberry was born, I didn't get to see it until after cancellation of the series was announced, so my delight in it is rather bittersweet, knowing that this new, interesting direction has no future.

      Ironically enough, this was also the first episode that didn't have a ridiculous amount of audio and video dropouts and freezes, late returns from spotbreaks, etc.

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    10. Re:too much star wars is not healthy by unitron · · Score: 1

      So next season is it still UPN's turn to use that timeslot to kill off a good show or does it revert back to Fox?

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  4. oh by ocularDeathRay · · Score: 0, Troll

    goodie...

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  5. Forget Enterprise by SoCalEd · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Star Wars series will prove that Lucas' franchise is indeed the most powerful force in the universe...

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    1. Re:Forget Enterprise by stretch0611 · · Score: 0
      A Star Wars series will prove that Lucas' franchise is indeed the most powerful force in the universe...

      Wrong, a Star Wars series will prove that Lucas' franchise was indeed the most powerful force in the universe...

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  6. Go retire I say! by nwmakel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This man needs to retire, and quickly.

    1. Re:Go retire I say! by kfg · · Score: 1

      Hey, so long as we get to spend lots and lots of weekly time with Gungans what could possibly go wrong. . .go wrong. . .go wrong. . .go. . .

      KFG

    2. Re:Go retire I say! by Sebadude · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know the topic is STARWARS when all the trolling is rated "informative" or "insigthful"...

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    3. Re:Go retire I say! by ewg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, don't retire. Pick up the THX 1138 thread and run with it. Make the movies Star Wars prevented you from making.

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    4. Re:Go retire I say! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what about the potential for a series called Animarwars?

    5. Re:Go retire I say! by kenthorvath · · Score: 0
      You know the topic is STARWARS when all the trolling is rated "informative" or "insightful"...

      Here, here. It's not as if the original series is being remade again and rife with retconning (retroactive continuities). He's making an original contribution and if you don't want to watch it, then just don't. I may not have liked Ep 1 very much, and I am a bit skeptical about many of the changes to the original trilogy (while loathing others), but I am very interested in new series. There is a definite dearth of quality science fiction on television and we should be jumping at the prospect of getting more.

    6. Re:Go retire I say! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quit your bitching. You know you're going to have a Season Pass for both shows on your TiVo and run down to Target every week looking for that elusive one figure per case.

      Monkey.

    7. Re:Go retire I say! by dmf415 · · Score: 1

      ya, he waited way to long to come out with sequels. the original set was great, his latest set movies are okay at best.

    8. Re:Go retire I say! by compm375 · · Score: 1

      He was making an observation. He was not saying that he dislikes Lucas or Star Wars. He was saying that when people troll that Star Wars is bad or boring, they get modded informative or insightful.

    9. Re:Go retire I say! by NanoGator · · Score: 0, Troll

      "You know the topic is STARWARS when all the trolling is rated "informative" or "insigthful"..."

      Or Enterprise.

      Frankly, I think Episode III will suck. However, if there are fans really aching to see it, I wouldn't dream of demanding that it be cancelled. I don't have to go to the theater, but the fans have no choice if it's cancelled. (Same goes for Enterprise.)

      The stupid thing is, if I went on a rant about Farscape, legitimate or not, I'd be modded troll. The problem with randomy giving people mod points is that they're influenced by popular opinion. Don't you dare bash Farscape, FireFox, or Google.

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    10. Re:Go retire I say! by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What, Star Wars is some trap Lucas fell into, which drew his life into a spiraling spiral (heh) of decay and torment, as each time he drew away Star Wars brought him back?

      No thanks. Indiana Jones was Lucas' idea. He started Pixar, ILM, THX, led the way for special effects, worked on stuff like Radioland Murders or something, redid THX 1138 in a new edition, and has generally done what he wants to. Star Wars hasn't prevented him from doing anything, except maybe avoiding the verbal abuse of countless Slashdotters who feel offended because he somehow ruined their childhood.

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    11. Re:Go retire I say! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ANd you know the forum is Slashdot, when a negative statement about Star Wars is considered a troll.

    12. Re:Go retire I say! by workbench · · Score: 1

      Thank you.

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    13. Re:Go retire I say! by mink · · Score: 1

      My main problem is when everyone who loves some OTHER work of SCI-FI has to come out of the woodwork and post endlessly in discussions about unrelated series.

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  7. Kevin Smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I remember the previous round of rumors correctly, wasn't Kevin Smith fingered as a writer for the SW TV seriers?

    1. Re:Kevin Smith by KlomDark · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yah, we'll get Jay Jay Binks and Silent Darth.

    2. Re:Kevin Smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or this...

      http://www.trooperclerks.com/

  8. ugh... by unixsource · · Score: 0

    Obe wan kenobi is rolling over in his grave.

    1. Re:ugh... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      Obe wan kenobi is rolling over in his grave.

      What grave? He was disintegrated, remember? Oh, "obE wan"... nevermind. Who's obE wan, btw?

    2. Re:ugh... by SilentOne · · Score: 1

      Geekdom at it's finest.

  9. So. by okar · · Score: 1

    Thats what we get instead of VII - IX

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    1. Re:So. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Informative

      The books for Episodes 7-9 have been out since 1992-1993: Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command. That trilogy takes place 5 years after ROTJ and further, authorized books go out 14 years after ROTJ. There are two problems with making sequels: There's way too much new story and background to pick from for new films. And, the sequel books are written by Timothy Zahn et al and not George Lucas...so George might not want to make a Star Wars film out of something he didn't write.

    2. Re:So. by w0lver · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe when George heads to that big ranch in the sky, someone can make the Zhan books into VII - IX.
      TV is such a natural place to go, I mean the Holiday Special proved that Star Wars does great on the small screen...
      I wonder if Bea Arthur is around to reprise her role...

    3. Re:So. by magefile · · Score: 1

      He might not want to, but the fact that they weren't written by him might be their saving grace. I'd love to see a (well-done) Thrawn Trilogy and/or Camaas Duology. It's the parenthetical part that'll get you, though.

    4. Re:So. by Nastard · · Score: 1

      The Zahn books aren't 7-9. They're books. That's all. Just like the dozens of other Expanded Universe books.

      And they weren't even very good books.

    5. Re:So. by secolactico · · Score: 4, Funny

      The books for Episodes 7-9 have been out since 1992-1993: Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command.

      And even if they weren't there are a lot of fanfics on the internet for George to pick and choose. There are some pretty interesting crossovers as well. My favorite is a Harry Potter/Star Wars crossover. But he'll have to cut out the naughty parts. We all know Ron and Lando had those inclinations but the rabid fans might not appreciate the irony of it.

      And he'll have to cut the author-self-inserts as well.

      ... Hehe... "self-inserts"...

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    6. Re:So. by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 1

      And he'll have to cut the author-self-inserts as well.

      ... Hehe... "self-inserts"...


      Why should he do that? ;-)

    7. Re:So. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      It says right on the cover that they're the authorized continuation of the Star Wars saga. And they follow the adventures of the same characters as before. If they weren't the official continuation, then George wouldn't allow them to be labelled as such.

    8. Re:So. by dykmoby · · Score: 1

      Er, if you know your sci-fi, technically he made the first three Star Wars films out of something he didn't write, just cobbled together from space opera and saturday movie-house serials.

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    9. Re:So. by pyrrhonist · · Score: 1
      It says right on the cover that they're the authorized continuation of the Star Wars saga.

      No it doesn't. It says, "used under authorization".

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    10. Re:So. by jadenite · · Score: 1

      ummm....actually the new jedi order trilogy BEGINS 25 years after ROTJ.

  10. Wow by I_am_Rambi · · Score: 1

    just will have to check them out when they are aired. Great news just after I watched the intro to Revelations.

  11. WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!! by pinual0110 · · Score: 0, Troll

    C'mon George, give it a rest. You've made millions with merchandising, thte prequels suck, it's time to call it a day.

    1. Re:WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!! by nappingcracker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      +1

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    2. Re:WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!! by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 3, Funny

      So we were doomed, but are no longer?

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    3. Re:WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!! by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      Like he gave up after Jedi? Anyone remember that lame-ass cartoon called Ewoks? Or the even lamer-assed cartoon called Droids? This isn't new folks... He's milking like he did after Jedi...

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    4. Re:WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "C'mon George, give it a rest. "

      Or just change the channel and let the fans have what they want.

      I don't like Star Wars either, but niether you nor I are in a place to say whta people can and cannot have. Don't like it? Fine, shut up and find something else to occupy you.

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  12. First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by qubex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First they spoil the Trilogy with the awful Prequels, and now they're considering a lurid TV series and animated cartoons?!

    They've ruined the Star Wars of my youth. Why can't they just leave well alone?

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    1. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by lazuli42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah yes, who among us does not fondly remember Ewoks, or the Star Wars Holiday Special

      Search your inner child, you know it to be true.

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    2. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I read at some point on theforce.net that they're hoping to make the live action more of a drama-with-great-special-effects than a special-effects-action-show.

    3. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by daraf · · Score: 1

      meesa write guud new episodes for leeetle kiddies

    4. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by sp5 · · Score: 1
      Ah yes, who among us does not fondly remember Ewoks, or the Star Wars Holiday Special

      Where can I find a video of the Star Wars Holiday Special?? I've heard it's sooooo bad that Lucas has done all he can to make it unavailable, which is the only thing that makes me want to see it.

      I mean, really, where else can learn about Chewy's family??

      -sp-

    5. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet people love the books. Why is that?

    6. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Wars Holiday Special: Aaaah!

    7. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard it isn't hard to find torrents of it.

    8. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by bubkus_jones · · Score: 1

      You'd pretty much have to download it.

    9. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 1

      They ruined the Star Wars of your youth? What, they destroyed your copy of it? Made it illegal? Wait, no. They digitally remastered it, adding in scenes that Lucas originally wanted, and then released it. They didn't force you to watch it. You can still watch the Star Wars of your youth, and it still rocks.

      Spoiling the Trilogy with awful prequels is also tough, since the only way they could affect the original Trilogy is if they somehow altered existing copies. Happily enough they don't, so if you truly hate the Prequels with a passion then you can just pretend they don't exist. Ta da! Suddenly Star Wars is perfect again! Wasn't that easy?

      And if you're making a fuss about "animated cartoons" then you have obviously not seen The Clone Wars miniseries. It is evident as I watch it that everyone who worked on it loves Star Wars as much as I do. Down to the littlest detail it feels like Star Wars; the quality never lets up once, and I truly felt it was on par with the Original Trilogy. They are that good, and it's annoying to see people dismiss them because anything that's animated must automatically suck or something.

      Star Wars is for kids. We all know that (hopefully). It's okay to like them, but they're not made for you. They're made for 8 and 10 year olds who go home and hit each other with sticks pretending to be Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker. Ask any of them, and they don't care about Lucas spoiling the Trilogy with awful Prequels. They just want to be Anakin Skywalker, podracing against Sebulba, or Mace Windu fighting Jango Fett. It's not as good as the Original Trilogy? So what. Go back and watch that. You've got like 3 versions to choose from now; if you can't find something you like, there's something wrong with you. Or you don't like Star Wars. But uh, those are pretty much the same :D

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    10. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by eraserewind · · Score: 1

      Jeez, don't watch it already, and quit your whinging.

    11. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by EEBaum · · Score: 1

      eBay yields 22 results at the moment.

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    12. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1
      So Lucas originally wanted Greedo to fire at Han first? So presumably he originally originally must have wanted Greedo and Han to fire simultaneously.

      I generally like the updated effects and suchlike, but the Greedo thing is not Lucas finally realising his initial vision. And no, I can't watch the Star Wars of my youth anymore, or can you tell me where I can buy a version of Star Wars where Han fired first?

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    13. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      Spoiling the Trilogy with awful prequels is also tough, since the only way they could affect the original Trilogy is if they somehow altered existing copies.

      No, sorry. You are denying that it is possible for a bad ending to spoil an otherwise good movie, but it's a common fact of artistic appreciation that it happens every year. They even have a phrase for a major subcategory of this: "jumping the shark".

      A patient viewer can take a stoic, Zen attitude and say "I'll pretend that certain episodes didn't exist, or that The Matrix had no sequels"... but just because some people can actively avoid it, doesn't mean the harm is wholely nonexistent.

      Star Wars is for kids. We all know that (hopefully). It's okay to like them, but they're not made for you. They're made for 8 and 10 year olds who go home and hit each other with sticks pretending to be Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker.

      You must be a kid- because only someone who wasn't alive in 1977 to see what Star Wars was like when it first came out would say something like that.

      A movie about shooting faces, chopping off heads and arms, and the military demolition of millions of people was not thought to be "kid fare", in those days.

    14. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Gumph · · Score: 1

      I find it hard to believe that Mr. Lucas is possible of travelling back in time and somehow tainted a person's viewing of EP 4 when it first came onto the big screen.
      What? he took a dump on everyone's lap whilst they were watching the film or he has somehow altered every whining slashdotters memory of that first magical viewing!!
      This is the only way he can ruin the Star Wars of my youth. what he actually has done is ruin the Star Wars of TODAY'S youth!!

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    15. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by mockchoi · · Score: 1
      Where can I find a video of the Star Wars Holiday Special?? I've heard it's sooooo bad that Lucas has done all he can to make it unavailable, which is the only thing that makes me want to see it.
      I once felt like you. Trust me, you don't want to see it. It's not like so bad it's kind of good, or really bad in a kitschy sort of way. It's so bad that it saps your will to live and leaves you lusting for revenge.
    16. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 1

      Shut up about Greedo. :D

      What Lucas wanted changed were things like the scene with Jabba the Hutt. The only reason it wasn't in the original was because of time, money, and the suspicion that he was going to go broke long before we got to Return of the Jedi so nobody would care about Jabba. If you listen to the commentary on the DVD, you can hear him talk about how he really regretted leaving that scene out when he eventually got to Return of the Jedi.

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    17. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 1

      A patient viewer can take a stoic, Zen attitude and say "I'll pretend that certain episodes didn't exist, or that The Matrix had no sequels"... but just because some people can actively avoid it, doesn't mean the harm is wholely nonexistent.

      But if you ignore it, it does mean the harm is nonexistent. How is it affecting you? I truly don't care whether or not the Matrix has sequels, but if I chose to ignore them I think it would enjoying an example of good moviemaking without letting an example of bad moviemaking ruin it. If you want to stretch that into denail or something, be my guest (I'm not implying that you have), but ignoring bad movies is pretty low on my list of psychological problems.

      You must be a kid- because only someone who wasn't alive in 1977 to see what Star Wars was like when it first came out would say something like that.

      I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I simply figured that it had to be a kid's movie, since they made "C-3P0s," the breakfast cereal clearly targeted towards kids. Or Boba Fett underoos, which can not by any stretch of the imagination be for adults. Are you really telling me all those lunchboxes, action figures, the myraid of toys, were designed to be sold to kids who were not intended to watch the movie? George Lucas has stated many times he was making a kid's movie. Buck Rodgers was for kids. Errol Flynn was for kids. Star Wars, following the grand tradition of those adventures, was for kids.

      Kids don't give a crap about shooting faces and cohpping of heads and arms if they're stormtroopers. You don't see their faces. They're just "bad guys." Watch a kid playing sometimes; they'll be killing people left and right. It's the parents who care about violence.

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    18. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      I simply figured that it had to be a kid's movie, since they made "C-3P0s," the breakfast cereal clearly targeted towards kids. Or Boba Fett underoos, which can not by any stretch of the imagination be for adults.

      Neither of those happened in the period I'm talking about.

      . Star Wars, following the grand tradition of those adventures, was for kids.

      Star Wars was for people who had liked Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon as kids, and wanted the nostalgic kick of seeing a higher-budget, more serious version onscreen.

      George Lucas was one of those people. He, an adult, made a movie he wanted to see. Hundreds of millions of other adults agreed. Just read interviews with him if you want to see him specifically say that the reason "Episode 1" was so different from the original trilogy is that he was now a parent, and had changed to making movies his kids would enjoy.

    19. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      But if you ignore it, it does mean the harm is nonexistent.

      Completely backwards. If you ignore something, that directly implies that the something does exist. Otherwise, the sentence "She ignored it" would be nonsense. Saying "I ignored the flaming schoolbus down the street" is a way of claiming that a bus was actually burning.

      There was a video from the 1970s of a quarterback who finished the big game with a broken leg. I had thought it was impressive- but now you tell me that since he was ignoring the pain, he had never really been injured at all.

    20. Re:First the Prequels and now a TV series?! by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 1

      Just read interviews with him if you want to see him specifically say that the reason "Episode 1" was so different from the original trilogy is that he was now a parent, and had changed to making movies his kids would enjoy.

      There are a number of times that he has said Star Wars was for children. I'm pretty sure it was either on the DVD commentary or "An Empire of Dreams" which is also on the DVD. He changed Episode I because he had the perspective of a parent and figured he knew what kids would like more, not because he chose to focus on kids instead of adults.

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  13. God willing we will all be around for by m93 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Star Wars episode 3.5......the search for more money.

    1. Re:God willing we will all be around for by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There is a lot they can still do, and not just be recapping the 6 movies for more money. The entire clone wars for one, and the Jedi Hunting that took place between 3 and 4.

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    2. Re:God willing we will all be around for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of just being incredibly rich he has a desperate need to be staggeringly rich.

      You can never buy enough ego stroking.

    3. Re:God willing we will all be around for by xv4n · · Score: 1, Funny
      Star Wars episode 3.5......the search for more money.

      Alternate tittle... Episode 3.5 "Patching all the plot holes".

    4. Re:God willing we will all be around for by Mortal-God · · Score: 1

      I believe you mean, Star Wars episode 3.5 (the search for a plotline)

    5. Re:God willing we will all be around for by sunwukong · · Score: 1

      Star Wars episode 3.5

      Is that the one where it's from the viewpoint of Timone and Pumba?

    6. Re:God willing we will all be around for by double-oh+three · · Score: 1

      (moderation: -1, Hasn't seen Spaceballs)

      I have modpoints and I was going to mod you down, but instead I'll just kindly suggest you follow the above moderation.

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    7. Re:God willing we will all be around for by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

      In addition, the DVD box set will contain;

      episode 3.7 "The Stink of Sith"

      episode 3.85 "Diapers for the new jedi"

      episode 3.958 "Big nanny wookie"

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  14. perfect way out by TrippTDF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...so when we have all these unanswered questions from Ep 3, Lucas can just say "it will be answered in teh series" and then he can let someone else worry about it.

    1. Re:perfect way out by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 1

      "it will be answered in teh series"

      And hopefully they won't be "teh suck!!1!1111!" ;)

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    2. Re:perfect way out by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Let someone else worry about it? Lucas stays involved in everything Star Wars; you'll notice that until recently he didn't even allow Star Wars gambling machines because he figured it would be immoral to lure people to gambling just because they're Star Wars fans (although now he has decided that the fans have grown up, ergo Star Wars slots). But I went off on a tangent; Lucas doesn't just let other people run off and do things. Rest assured he'll be working on these TV thingies as much as the Prequels.

      For better or for worse :/

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    3. Re:perfect way out by Monkey · · Score: 1

      Hopefully the series will include the long awaited cameo of Natalie Portman, naked, petrified and covered in hot grits.

  15. May the force be with us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do I get scared reading about Lucas, Star Wars and TV in one article?

  16. awesome by lazuli42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh christ, this'll be good.

    Goofing on Star Wars is like the /. knock-knock joke

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    1. Re:awesome by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      No, here's the /. knock-knock joke:

      Knock knock
      Who's there?
      In Korea, only old people knock.
      In Soviet Russia, door Knocks you!
      Profit!!

    2. Re:awesome by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      let me try that again (damn slash and its lack of editing)

      knock knock
      who's there?
      in soviet russia, door knocks you!
      microsoft sucks and natalie portman who?
      Profit!!

      ok, that covers more /. cultural ground

    3. Re:awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No, here's the /. knock-knock joke: Knock knock Who's there? In Korea, only old people knock. In Soviet Russia, door Knocks you! Profit!!
      I, for one, welcome our new knock-knocking overlords.
    4. Re:awesome by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1
      Dare I ask you to imagine a Beowulf cluster of knock-knock jokes?

      No, I didn't think I should either.

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  17. I have a bad feeling about this... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Someone had to say it.

    1. Re:I have a bad feeling about this... by thepotoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I sense a great distrubance in the force...it is almost as if a million voices around the world crying "don't do it, George!" were suddenly ignored.

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    2. Re:I have a bad feeling about this... by valkraider · · Score: 2, Funny

      I sense a great distrubance in the force...it is almost as if a million voices around the world crying "don't do it, George!" were suddenly ignored.

      OK, most comments have been lame. But this one was coke-through-the-nose funny.

    3. Re:I have a bad feeling about this... by dedeman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Strange, I remember hearing that cry directed toward another George, with a "W", and were suddenly ignored.

    4. Re:I have a bad feeling about this... by wed128 · · Score: 3, Funny

      put enough coke through your nose, and everything will get real serious...

    5. Re:I have a bad feeling about this... by datbox · · Score: 1

      Hahaha.. That's so funny.

      Fag

  18. George Lucas by Ucklak · · Score: 4, Funny

    He just works.

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    1. Re:George Lucas by sharkey · · Score: 4, Funny
      He just works.

      You mispelled "wanks".

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    2. Re:George Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He just works.

      That's the problem.

    3. Re:George Lucas by jtpalinmajere · · Score: 1

      You misspelled "misspelled", wanker.

  19. Where does the line start? by PhatboySlim · · Score: 5, Funny

    Star wars fans, confused and bewildered, have begun huddling around random television sets not sure where they are supposed to be in line at to eagerly anticipate the new t.v. show.

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    1. Re:Where does the line start? by NeuroManson · · Score: 3, Funny

      And in other parts of the US, Star Wars fans have remained huddled around their analog televisions since January 1, 2006, watching the snow and claiming to see Chewbacca.

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    2. Re:Where does the line start? by stretch0611 · · Score: 1
      Star wars fans, confused and bewildered, have begun huddling around random television sets

      No, I'm sure there are going to be idiots^T^T^T^T fans waiting outside the chinese theater for tickets to the tv show.

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  20. Wait, "3D"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Clone Wars shorts were plain 2d animation with some 3d models (for ships and the like).

    They remaking the shorts or something?

    1. Re:Wait, "3D"? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The clone wars are the coolest part of SW and Lucas himself has as done nothing with them!!! Between the Animated minis and the comics, video games, and RPGs there's tons of material to draw from.. pitty not having the main characters for parts of it.. as long as the writing's good fans won't care.

      personally, I'd like to see something like the Tales of the Jedi or Young Jedi Knights done as TV... You can explain a lot of cool SW lore without directly competing with the movies.. Also, a "Taken" style miniseries would be better than a "series" I know many /.rs laugh at that Sci-Fi run, but they executed it masterfully..and the shorter timeframe to watch it in kept interest up...when it couldn't quite hold a whole season. Also, there's no "attachment" to doing more and you can't be cancled. It fits the SW style [OK everybody but lucas] in telling compacted stories [like the Young Jedi Knights, comics or Zahn's novels] Also, 22 hours of SW would do a lot better than the crash-and-burn movies we've been getting... Oh... Broadcast it in HDTV too George!!!

    2. Re:Wait, "3D"? by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      Sure sounds like they're remakes of the shorts or something. More clone wars type cartoons, made by the same people, would be good. 2D is fine. Are they even keeping the same team for the new cartoon?

  21. Lucas obviously... by jvagner · · Score: 1

    ...hasn't been paying attention to what's happened to Star Trek through all its iterations.

    Can't he develop an interest in anything else? It's a huge, wide world out there, and he has the money to do anything he wants. And he's still flogging this dead, dusty horse?

  22. in other news... by spamchang · · Score: 4, Funny

    several dead tauntauns were found in the desert of tatooine, having been beaten to a pulp after dying of starvation.

    (does it translate? :p)

    1. Re:in other news... by William-Ely · · Score: 1

      More like "In other news several dead tauntauns were found in the snow fields of Hoth, having been beaten to a pulp after dying of starvation".

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  23. A crash grab? Never! by coupland · · Score: 1

    And directing both series' will be acclaimed hollywood director "Ben Dover."

  24. New Series Name by Ironsides · · Score: 1

    So what are they going to call the new Star Wars TV Show? Star Trek? Star Wars 3 1/2? Star Wars: Battlegrounds? Star Wars: Rebelion? Battle Star Wars? Or What?

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    1. Re:New Series Name by Adrilla · · Score: 1, Funny

      Star Wars: The Raping of the Force's Corpse

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    2. Re:New Series Name by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

      The show will have a new title each week. The first season's titles are:

      Star Wars: Season I: Episode I: Yippee!
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode II: Sandstorms Are Very Very Dangerous
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode III: It Is Your Destiny, I Repeat, It Is Your Destiny
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode IV: In Deep Doo-Doo
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode V: What's a Bongo?
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode VI: There is No Father
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode VII: I Do Not Believe That The Sith Could Have Returned Without Us Knowing
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode VIII: Then I'll See You In Hell
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode IX: You Came In That Thing?
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode X: Wesa Going Home
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode XI: Mrrraugh! [Where's My Freakin' Medal?!]
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode XII: There Was No Danger At All
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode XIII: You Haven't Learned Anything
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode XIV: I Don't Like Sand
      Star Wars: Season I: Episode XV: Ex-squeeze Me

  25. It's a LARP! by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > and the other a live-action series, that will be set in the time between Episodes III and IV, but won't feature the main characters [ emphasis added].

    I just had a nightmare vision of FRAPS video captures from within Star Wars Galaxies being re-enacted by a bunch of LARPers.

    I mean, it'd definitely fit within the Star Wars Canon:

    This is not the Holiday Special you were looking for.
    I've got a bad feeling about this.
    It's worse.
    It's a LARP!

    1. Re:It's a LARP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sith lightning bolt! Sith lightning bolt! Sith lightning bolt!

    2. Re:It's a LARP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      I'm not so sure. The Holiday Special was terrible.

      In any case, for those of you that would really like to see the Holiday Special, there is torrent of it here.

      http://torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetai ls&id=97068

  26. This was in Wired. by homerj79 · · Score: 1

    This same info is in the most recent edition of Wired. :p

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  27. No main characters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just hope this includes JarJar Bings.

    1. Re:No main characters? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'd like a "darker" Vader based miniseries. I'd fit Lucas's "saturday serial" ideas..but with a dark twist... Who doesn't want to see Vader in action!!!! that's the good stuff George won't let anybody else play with.

    2. Re:No main characters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as long as I get to see some kids dismember by the up and coming vader in ep3 ill be satisfied.

  28. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE by smcavoy · · Score: 1

    suck less then other TV shows.

    1. Re:PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      suck less then other TV shows.

      Like the Ewoks Family Christmas?

  29. This was already mentioned almost as an aside in the current issue of wired. I guess they let the cat out of the bag a little early.

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  30. really? by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Then again some might argue that you can never have too much star wars.

    I think people stopped arguing that the moment they realized what more star wars actually meant.

    "Awesome! The Star Wars trilogy in theaters again!" Greedo shoots first? What??

    "Whoa...episode I will be great...check out the trailer's fight scene!" Turn to the dark side already kid, and kill this Jar Jar

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  31. Won't feature any main characters will be tough by Minute+Work · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "...but won't feature the main characters."

    This will be tough thing to avoid. I've ready quite a few Star Wars novels in my day and all of them have noteable characters from the movies sprinkled throughout the plotlines. I could see how they might avoid using main characters if they set the television series Pre-episode I or pretty far past episode 6 (post new jedi order?) but for the series to take place between episodes 3 and 4 would require a few staple characters to make regular apperances in order for the audience to become grounded.

    I recently watched that amateur Star Wars fan film "Revelations" and without an appearence by Darth Vader, it wouldn't have seemed like Star Wars. The sets and sabers alone just don't draw me in like the cast of characters that everyone is familiar with.

    Here's hoping that is an overstatement and we'll see a few familiar faces in the series.

    1. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by darth_MALL · · Score: 1

      There's some pretty good peripheral SW stuff around. Even though a lot of stories brush on the main characters as a reference point, they flesh out the (IMHO really cool) SW universe a lot more. Some good stuff can be found here for starters.

    2. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by Queer+Boy · · Score: 3, Funny
      his will be tough thing to avoid. I've ready quite a few Star Wars novels in my day and all of them have noteable characters from the movies sprinkled throughout the plotlines.

      A friend let me borrow the first two seasons of Voyager on DVD and I fail to understand why a "spinoff" that doesn't have any characters from the main franchise makes a difference in the quality of the story.

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    3. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by aserra · · Score: 1

      Not really. There are enough story lines (such as the "tales" series - cantina, Jabba's palace and the back story on most of the bounty hunters that aren't main characters and the guild). Don't forget charaters brought up either in the books or in the comic series such as Prince Xizor, Kud'ar Mub'at, or Kuat. I don't think they call it the "Star Wars Universe" for nothing.

    4. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by Gamsk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While it is hard to imagine Star Wars without the cast of characters we know and love, it is possible. Look at Knights of the Old Republic. It has some of the more memorable characters, and certainly one of the best stories in Star Wars that I've ever seen. Yes, its a game, but the story it tells is more engrossing and memorable than Ep 1&2. It is prrof that it can be done, and done well. They key is the writers. I couldn't give 2 farts about special effects. If the characters are 2-D, and flat, and the situations are watered down drek, then the show will fail. If the relationships are real, and the people are real and the situations good Star Wars fare, it will do well. IMHO. Gamsk

    5. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by Minute+Work · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying it would be impossible, it just helps having a familiar face in a spin off.

      See, Joey, Frasier, Benson (ok, old example).

      Also, somebody made the comparison of Star Trek Voyager. The Star Trek shows have always had an ensemble cast. When TNG came out you could look at the characters and relate them to the ones from the original series. Captain Kirk split into 2 personalities = Picard (cunning) and Number 1 (ladies man). Scotty = Jordy. Spock = Data. Since the setting was the same, this substitue cast is explainable. Not sure how well that would work in Star Wars where things haven't been as structured.

    6. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by Minute+Work · · Score: 1

      I agree that it can be done, but my comment was based on the fact that the series would take place between episodes 3 and 4. KOTOR takes place thousands of years before episode 1 so it wouldn't make any sense to have familiar characters.

    7. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1
      I'd like TOTJ done too.. I thought the characters were great...as well as the emphisis on non-human jedi. TOTJ was truely crazy because the Force wasn't formalized yet...a great playground for lucas to preach a little. Also, I'd like to see Vodoo-siko-baa Ulic-qel-droma and Naomi-Sunrider and the crew...

      of course Post-Vong galaxy would be cool too...again, like TOTJ, they broke all the rules.. so anything goes... more opportunity for "wild west" jedi than the "classic" story allows.

    8. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by oni · · Score: 1

      "but won't feature the main characters"

      50 mod points says it features R2D2 and C3PO. I honestly don't think Lucas can write anything without at least some of the main characters. To me, it's a little sad. It strikes me as a weakness.

    9. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by akarnid · · Score: 1

      I agreee wholeheartedly. In fact I'm way beyond sick of the 'classic' era. If Lucas would be daring, he'd use either TOTJ or the Vong wars. I'd prefer the Vong wars, because they are a formidable enemy, not to mention a fresh take on the whole 'universal dominance' type of enemy with superweapons.

    10. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      Personally I'm hoping the series focuses on Kit Fisto. I mean even if he dies in Episode 3, they could like make him escape and be all a hidden jedi. Cus his name is so cool. It's even better than other Lucas wonders like General Grievous or Count Dooku.
      Say it with me: "Kit Fisto"
      I think he could have a couple buddies that he goes around with maybe give them cool names too, I dunno something like:
      "Sphincs Clinchster" or "Spahnk Azzcheek"
      Ok, so I'm not Lucas when it comes to cool names, but I think you know what I mean.
      It would so totally rule, and he has big weird eyes too. And tentacles or dread locks or some combination of the two. They rock!
      Go Kit Fisto!

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    11. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I would like to see the short "Troops" made into a series.

      Rough, tough, give-us-no-guff Stormtroopers trying to keep the peace on rustic planets such as Tattooine. Sure, they probably blast as many people as they arrest, but that's part of the job.

    12. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by mactov · · Score: 1

      "for the series to take place between episodes 3 and 4 would require a few staple characters to make regular apperances in order for the audience to become grounded."

      The audience in question hasn't been grounded for a very long time -- these are the same people who waited in line at the wrong theater believing that the new movie would open there. Unless perhaps the "staple" characters would fasten them down somehow...

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    13. Re:Won't feature any main characters will be tough by chaosmind · · Score: 1
      A friend let me borrow the first two seasons of Voyager on DVD and I fail to understand why a "spinoff" that doesn't have any characters from the main franchise makes a difference in the quality of the story.

      Ya know, if you'd said the first two seasons of Deep Space Nine, you'd probably have been modded "Insightful" rather than "Funny"...

      Just a thought.

  32. No chance by Stibidor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As long as people are buying what he's making (whatever it may be), is there any question he's going to keep doing this 'til the day he dies?

    If you had a little black box that spit out 2 dollars for every 1 dollar you put into it, how many times would you stick in your dollar bill?

  33. I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by hellfire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network was awesome. That's what I want in a cartoon and it's what I want in Star Wars. Shitpan Star Wars all you want, I want Genndy Tartakovsky to make more!

    And considering Lucas is not specifically directing the cartoons, I figure the mouth frothing Star Wars critics would actually enjoy them :)

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    1. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think star wars sucks but those Clone wars cartoons rock my world.

      Genndy Tartakovsky (the samurai jack guy) what can I say? He's a master.

      That robot from the end of the clone wars cartoons kicked ass. If he's in ep3, I might just bother to watch this movie.

      Redoing them in CGI could be...ugly.

    2. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      You're probably talking about General Grevious. He's not a robot, he's a cyborg. And he is in Ep. 3. And he raises the question as to why it is that if they could build a cyborg so dexterious that it could successfully fight multiple Jedi in combat without being a Jedi, that they couldn't have used the same technology for Darth Vader's cyborg body, making him much more fearsome than he turned out to be. (and he was already pretty fearsome)

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    3. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by Digital+Pizza · · Score: 1
      Presumably it was General Grevious' choice to take that robotic form; perhaps it resembles his original, organic (non-human) body.

      IIRC, somewhere in the Expanded Universe stuff I read that Vader longed to free himself of his "life-support" suit and regain his (physical, at least) humanity. Given that, I can see why he'd prefer to retain a huminoid form. Also, the majority of his body was probably still organic, with the artificial components there just to provide prosthetic replacements to lost limbs and life-support. He might have been pretty pissed if they had gone ahead and "Robo-copped" him.

      (I haven't kept up with this stuff enough to be sure of how accurate this is, but I still feel like a big nerd with this post :-)

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    4. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Well, the Ep 3 novelization is already out, and it indicates that Obi-Wan left vader a quadruple amputee that was on fire. Vader didn't get any choice regarding the cybernetics he got in the first place, it was all the Emperor's decision, so why not go whole hog?

      Plus the Emperor would've thought that he could take Vader if he fought back, I suspect. Certainly he never saw it coming in Ep 6.

      It's a good point though.

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    5. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by dtm789 · · Score: 1

      I agree the Clone Wars cartoons were amazing and everyone here seems to ignore the fact that in addition to announcing the live action series George Lucas said they are continuing the Clone Wars cartoon series with 30 minute episodes. The live action series may be hit or miss but at least we know the cartoon is going to rock.

    6. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by Digital+Pizza · · Score: 1
      LOL! At this rate I won't even have to watch the movie :-)

      I guess the distinction I was making in my previous post was that he recieved the implants/prosthetics necessary to regain lost functionality, versus unneccesary replacement of whatever healthy body parts he had left (like Robocop).

      From what you say about the novel, it sounds like Vader got about what I figured he did. He seems to have kept his torso, hence the need for the breathing apparatus and hyperbaric chamber to assist his damaged lungs (they're obviously still there). Since they didn't bother to replace his lungs, then he also probably has all his other major organs. In other words, unlike Grevious, he didn't get a full-body replacement.

      The point about the emperor not wanting him to be too independant/powerful is well made; from what I've seen of Grevious (only a little bit of the Clone Wars cartoon), he doesn't exactly seem disabled or dependant on life-support in any way.

      On the other hand, I have to wonder how vulnerable cybernetics would be to tampering via the Force, vs. someone who is all-original (force-induced short-circuiting vs. force-choke)? Maybe that gives Vader an edge. (For all I know, this may come up in the movie.)

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    7. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      If you don't mind spoilers, read on.

      Well, think about how the prequel saber fights have been more dynamic than the original ones were. Arguably this was attributable to Vader being clunky, Obi-Wan being old and out of practice, and Luke not being well trained. So it seems to me that Vader's physical abilities have diminished from his cybernetics, rather than stayed at the same level or increased. Plus he seems to have become extra-susceptible to force lightning.

      Still, he didn't get the cybernetics until Yoda and Obi-Wan were the last Jedi left and had left to go into hiding, so maybe it was felt that he wouldn't really need to go into combat. (And indeed, he doesn't seem to have as a general rule in the original movies)

      As for force-tampering with cybernetics, they're vulnerable to it. Obi-Wan uses this to defeat Grevious, and again less successfully against Vader (since Vader already has one cybernetic arm). Basically he makes them drop their sabers. Though I don't see why this wouldn't work on opponents' organic bits (e.g. force choke) even where they are good combatants or Jedi.

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    8. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by Digital+Pizza · · Score: 1
      If you don't mind spoilers, read on.

      Well, we all know how it ends; it's kinda like spoiling The Titanic. :-)

      Well, think about how the prequel saber fights have been more dynamic than the original ones were.

      Personally, I think the real reason for this may just be better choreography in these higher-budget prequels; I'm willing to suspend a little disbelief here because I think the fights in the original movies were supposed to be good ones. That's all IMHO, of course and unless Lucas has addressed the issue, I feel this sort of thing is up to the viewer to decide, and wouldn't really argue it either way.

      As for force-tampering with cybernetics, they're vulnerable to it.

      Glad to hear that Lucas thought of this; this actually gives me some hope about this final movie. I'm definately looking forward to seeing it!

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    9. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Well, yes, the true reason is that the choreography and effects have improved remarkably. The fight in the first movie was laughably awful, especially that spin that Obi-Wan does for no reason.

      Nevertheless, IIRC, Lucas (or someone else associated with the film) has put forth the reason I discussed as a reason for the improvement in the newer films. If you google around, you might find a statement about it.

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    10. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by ChewbaccaD · · Score: 1

      But you're also forgetting about the other horrible Lucas invention of the prequels, midichlorians. "Midichlorians are what gives a Jedi his power" or whatever, but basically they're part of the body. Grievous was never force-sensitive in the first place, just an excellent warrior, so putting his brain in a jar didn't really take much away from him. Since Vader had a huge midichlorian count to begin with, lopping off a few appendages probably took him down a notch or two on the force-strength. I imagine he'd want to keep what he had left. Also, the Empire hates non-humans. There's another reason for him to keep the humanoid form.

    11. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by matthewcharlesgoeden · · Score: 1

      Off topic and out of place --

      I often read your posts after we argued through ./ 'bout fair use and the Rio case.

      Anyways, I'm finishing my second year at law school and am struggling to find summer employment.

      Need a clerk?

    12. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I'm really not in a position to take on a clerk, but if you'd like to talk, we can take it to email. Your addr isn't posted, but you can mail me at:

      net.auspice.gryphon@cpt (big-endian to avoid spam)

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    13. Re:I don't care about you Star Wars bashers by tomdoe · · Score: 1

      The Cartoon Network series did rock.

      I'd say they did a better job of capturing the compelling story and characters of the original series than Lucas ever came close to with Episode I and II.

      Though I don't know how good the series will be if Lucas himself is involved...

  34. Star Wars TV by rjelks · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I started the article, I was kind of hoping it would be based off this spoof. Ewoks are still funny.

  35. ughh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, I love star wars, I always have. But jeez, let it die allready. How much more star wars do we really need? Make something new for pete's sake!

  36. I'm confirming right now... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that I don't give a rusty fuck what George Lucas says, does, produces, or otherwise shits out onto the screen.

    C'mon people. He's not been behind a great movie since "Empire", and notice that he didn't write the screenplay for or direct that one. Yes, he made a few classics. He founded what is still perhaps the world's best FX shop (ILM). He got thousands of theaters to upgrade to a better viewing / listening environment with the THX certification program. However, he's crashed and burned badly since. Why keep giving him so much attention?

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    1. Re:I'm confirming right now... by EverDense · · Score: 1

      Why keep giving him so much attention?

      because he created Star Wars.

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    2. Re:I'm confirming right now... by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Lucas didn't direct or write the screenplay for Return of the Jedi either, but everyone still pins the Ewoks on him.

      You Lucas-bashing types are all the same. Anything good about Star Wars -- must be the work of some other guy. Anything bad about Star Wars -- must be George Lucas's fault, no matter what the billing says.

      I've got no love for the prequels or what's happened to Star Wars, but you anti-fanboys tend to be every bit as blinkered and devoid of reason as the slavering hordes you're criticizing.

    3. Re:I'm confirming right now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no no you're wrong. We are not all the same. What an amazingly stupid thing to say.

      Empire Strikes Back was the best of the original trilogy. Lucas did not direct or write the script.

      These new movies are AWFUL. It boasts some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard.

      Thus, I wish someone else had written and directed the new movies. How is that devoid of reason?

      Ass.

    4. Re:I'm confirming right now... by jargonCCNA · · Score: 1

      Somehow, I think ILM's been dethroned as the World Best VFX Shop.

      Look at the human/CG interaction in Attack of the Clones when Obi-Wan gave Dexter Jettster a hug... you could tell he wasn't actually hugging anything and Dex's clothes didn't shift in response to Obi-Wan's arms.

      Now consider the human/CG interaction in The Two Towers, which came out the same year and had been in production for probably as long.. it looked like they'd actually found a scrawny guy with big eyes, bad teeth and no hair, painted him grey and had them wrestle.. when it was, in fact, a guy in a blue-coloured motion capture suit.

      ILM has a lot to learn about visual effects from Weta.

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  37. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I think as long as Lucas makes more of Star wars movies/episodes for the sake of making he can post for the sake of posting

  38. A decent replacement to Star Trek by sbsheetz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Let's face it. The fire has gone out in the Star Trek universe. The TV series have seriously declined in quality, and the Nemesis destroyed the movie line. A Star Wars series would be a welcome replacement.

    1. Re:A decent replacement to Star Trek by rjelks · · Score: 1

      I agree. I read most of the novels, and I could see a lot of plot lines that would work well for television. Not many without the main characters, but it could be cool if handled the right way - and by that I mean, not directed by Lucus.

      Gallactica was pretty good for its first season too.

    2. Re:A decent replacement to Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah you know because, there is just nothing better then star trek out there. Nope, there are no such shows as Stargate (sg-1 and atlantis), Battlestar Galactica, Dr. Who. Nope, so lets do a star wars prequel tv series.

      God, why the hell does it have to be during that time. Make it hundreds of years afterwards.

    3. Re:A decent replacement to Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL!

      Only on Slashdot can someone say Star Wars is better than Star Trek and get modded -1, Flamebait...

      In Galactic Empire, the mods flame YOU!

    4. Re:A decent replacement to Star Trek by stretch0611 · · Score: 1
      I agree, let Star Wars and Star Trek die. (except if someone other than Lucas wants to bring a few Timothy Zahn novels to the big screen.) To me Star Trek died after Deep Space 9 finished. I thought Voyager stunk and that kept me from watching Enterprise.

      Stargate SG1 has been a great replacement, but it is starting to show its age. Stargate Atlantis is ok, but I do not think it is close to the caliber of SG1. Atlantis does have potential and with luck it will improve in the next season.

      I am pleasantly surprised at how well Battlestar Galactica has done and I hope it get even better.

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    5. Re:A decent replacement to Star Trek by Hubertus_BigenD · · Score: 1

      I thought we had that with Battlestar Galactica. Which iccidently enough was accused of ripping off Star Wars in the 1970's.

  39. Not exactly true by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As Lucas (and the article) said, it's not exactly true that no main characters are going to be in the TV series (I think his exact words were "Well, that's not strictly true now that I think about it"). He didn't clarify what that meant though.

    Also possible in the future is either a new Willow movie or TV series, and another thing for sure is an update of the decrepit Star Tours ride at DisneyWorld (in Janurary next year).

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    1. Re:Not exactly true by shawnce · · Score: 1

      Mr. Binks in every episode, sweet!

    2. Re:Not exactly true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As Lucas (and the article) said, it's not exactly true that no main characters are going to be in the TV series (I think his exact words were "Well, that's not strictly true now that I think about it").

      Meesa no likee sound of that...

    3. Re:Not exactly true by vincentj7 · · Score: 1

      Maybe Threepio and Artoo will make random appearances. They are the only characters that were really recognizable throughout all six movies.

  40. Excellent News by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

    Without Star Trek for a while we were in need of a 800 lb gorilla fucking up sci-fi, nice to see Lucas stepping up to the plate.

    In all seriousness though, what I've seen of the Clone Wars shorts looks awesome, though I'm sure that's more due to Genndy (and lack of serious plot perhaps), and a series not dealing with the movies has promise...but seriously. Is there any way that this doesn't get fucked up beyond belief?

    1. Re:Excellent News by JahToasted · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Well if it doesn't show "Written and Driected by George Lucas" at the end of the show it could be good. ie Lucas lets other people write and direct.

      You know how many people love the star wars movies when they were kids and are now experienced Actors/Directors/Writers? Lucas had Speilberg and Samuel L Jackson begging to be a part of star wars. Imagine handing over starwars to the best creative teams out there and just letting them go.

      It could be very awesome if Lucas can just put his ego aside and let someone else give it a shot. Nothing against Lucas the man's a genious at coming up with ideas, and doing special effects, but he can't write dialog or direct actors worth shit.

      If Lucas comes up with the general ideas, and does the special effects, and gets the best and the brightest to take over writing and directing, it could work very well.

    2. Re:Excellent News by fromtheblueline · · Score: 1
      Without Star Trek for a while we were in need of a 800 lb gorilla fucking up sci-fi, nice to see Lucas stepping up to the plate.
      I don't know. I think Mansquito did a pretty good job of that.
    3. Re:Excellent News by MikeHunt69 · · Score: 1

      For a while now, there have been rumblings on the viewaskew messageboard (owned by Kevin Smith of Clerks fame) that he would be somehow involved with a StarWars TV series. Whenever asked he always said either "Yeah, I've heard that too", or made no comment - ie. neither confirming or denying the news. So he could possibly involved somehow..

    4. Re:Excellent News by Rodness · · Score: 1

      Yeah, until he starts his endless tweaking... The question I have is, how many different editions are there going to be of the first season? I can just see it now...

      "Season 1, special edition!" "Season 1, dvd edition!" "Season 1, ultimate dvd edition!" "Season 1, ultimate dvd special edition!" ....

    5. Re:Excellent News by farquharsoncraig · · Score: 1

      A story writer as good as George Lucas needs a director and screenplay that is better than George Lucas.

    6. Re:Excellent News by warmgun · · Score: 1
      Imagine handing over starwars to the best creative teams out there and just letting them go.

      You could say the same about Star Trek...

    7. Re:Excellent News by slapout · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see J.M. Straczynski take a shot at it.

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  41. I've already seen this show..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was called Firefly.

    It turns out Malcolm Reynolds is Han Solo's father.

  42. Second time by Q+himself · · Score: 1

    It has been done earlier : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193524/

  43. isn't it obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Star Wars was designed to live and die with Lucas.

    He is planning his own demise to coincide with the eternal demise of Star Wars.

    Timeline:

    1970's - Original Star Wars
    1990's to 2005 - Prequels
    2006 to 2012 - The TV Show (aka Days of our Jedi's)

    ... 2013 ... - Society hates Star wars, the show gets axed and Lucas passes away.

    -SJ53

  44. kewl by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    'specially if it stars Art Carney, Bea Auther and Jefferson Starship.

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  45. Lucas Screws Up Everything Good by dotslashdot · · Score: 0

    George Lucas has successfully destroyed his creative storytelling gift with his business "sense." With JarJar and those terrible "romantic" scenes and explaining the force as the product of a bunch of little organisms, his movies are littered with these gimicky pop-up ads of marketing that have little to no place in the storyline. He even screwed up his original movies by adding a lot of unnecessary sounds and very obvious CGI, both of which just stand out too much in the re-releases. I'm glad they cleaned up the movie, but why add lots of new distracting and often irritating hi-pitched sounds? Because Lucas can milk the money train.

  46. Better ideas than Lucas will ever have by TerminaMorte · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Timothy Zahn, a great author IMHO, made quite possibly the best starwar books ever.

    Three books, very well made, and intresting. Why not make a cartoon (or movies) based off of them, instead of spewing this crap?

    The author will be happy (royalties, yay!), George will be happy (He won't have to pull bad ideas out of the air), and I'll be happy (which is the most important).

    Here's a link to some short descriptions of the books: http://www.bookstoremall.com/Thrawn_Trilogy_Series .htm/

    1. Re:Better ideas than Lucas will ever have by rjelks · · Score: 1

      Zahn's books were the best by far. The biggest problem with that are the actors. I could be wrong, but I don't think fans want to see different actors playing the roles of Skywalker, Solo, etc... Maybe when CG is improved (10 years), we'll see a movie based on that trilogy. It would be cool.

      I bet a lot of fans would get behind Zahn consulting/writing for the show. It's too bad Lucus didn't make Zahn's books into movies earlier, instead of the prequels.

    2. Re:Better ideas than Lucas will ever have by Klivian · · Score: 1

      Better to chose the x-wing series, lots of action and none of the main SW characters in any leading part.

  47. Star Wars part deux by lecithin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I quote from me:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=142927&cid=1 19 78190

    "You might have thought that it was going to all be over on May 15 with the release of Episode III: Revenge of the Sith."

    I don't know anybody that is foolish enough to believe that this was over. As long as there is an interest and the opportunity to make some money, it isn't going to be over. Many folks thought that Star Wars would end in the 70s. It is still around decades later and still making a profit. You don't get rid of a profitable interest.

    If the entertainment factor is there, I'll go see more. Will the market of 'Star Wars Enthusiasts' allow more movies to be made? Will we see different plots in the future? Will we see more 'enhanced' versions? I'd think probably. They may suck, but I would bet that we are not done with 'Star Wars' for quite a while. I hope that what comes out is good.

    When are we going to get sick of it?

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    1. Re:Star Wars part deux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I quote from me:

      How far up your own ass are you?

      I quote from me:...

    2. Re:Star Wars part deux by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1
      Will the market of 'Star Wars Enthusiasts' allow more movies to be made?

      Maybe they can get together and fund the production themselves. After all, the idea worked so well for Enter... Uh, never mind.

      Besides, I guess neither of the two remaining fans could scrounge enough money from the allowances they get from mommy and daddy.

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  48. What's the hoopla? by guitaristx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do I so often hear tons of noise about the Star Wars story beyond XI? It was my understanding that the story was about Anakin Skywalker - his origins, growth, corruption, and, finally, redemption. What more is to be told?

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    1. Re:What's the hoopla? by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Back in the early days of ANH, before it was renamed as episode 4, I heard stories that the entire saga was meant to be 3 trilogies. The first trilogy focused on the boy who would become Vader, the second 3 focused on his downfall, and the last 3 focused on the rebuilding of the republic and the final defeat of the Empire. I also recall being told that the only characters who would exist in all 9 episodes would be R2D2 and C3PO. I have no idea if this is based on fact or not but there is a synopsis of episodes 7-9 supposedly written by Lucas himself.

    2. Re:What's the hoopla? by DirePickle · · Score: 1

      You're missing the most important parts of his history, though! Origin, corruption, redemption, death... and his return as a zombie! Lightsabers and blasters are completely ineffective against the brain-eating menace, and so the hunt begins for the mystical Double-Barreled Shotgun of the Old Republic!

    3. Re:What's the hoopla? by senor_burt · · Score: 1

      I was pretty sure that the Zahn books were considered "canon".

    4. Re:What's the hoopla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hoopla is precisely in that Star Wars is a multi-billion dollar franchise, and it will keep father bastard step-children until the orphans disgrace the memory sufficiently to repulse us once and for all.

    5. Re:What's the hoopla? by Admiral1973 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's no way those synopses of Episodes 7-9 are the work of George Lucas. Aside from his many recent denials that he's ever going to make those movies, the stories read like lame Star Wars novels. Whoever wrote them just threw in elements of Timothy Zahn's trilogy and the books about the Death Star superlaser and the Sun Crusher and made up some more nonsense. GL should be upset that his name is even on the same page as that crap.

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    6. Re:What's the hoopla? by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

      GL should be upset that his name is even on the same page as that crap.

      Right, because everyone associates his name with quality.

    7. Re:What's the hoopla? by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Somewhere I may still have an activities book my mom got me in the early 80's. IIRC, it was a bunch of sci-fi crosswords, word searches, jumbles, etc... In one of the Star Wars crosswords the clue was something like "total number of movies to be made" and the answer was TWELVE!

    8. Re:What's the hoopla? by perrin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wrong, wrong, wrong. The supershadow site and everything on it is totally FAKE. It has NOTHING to do with George Lucas. Everything on it, including its so-called "interviews" with George Lucas are made up. Google around for a lot more info on this.

      I'm not usually a big fan of copyright lawsuits, but I hope George Lucas' lawyers nail this guy. He is spreading so much misinformation and outright lies about Starwars it is disgusting.

    9. Re:What's the hoopla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I'm not usually a big fan of copyright lawsuits, but I hope George Lucas' lawyers nail
      > this guy. He is spreading so much misinformation and outright lies about Starwars
      > it is disgusting.

      Wow, how long ago since you were actually alive? Someone is 'spreading misinformation' and telling 'outright lies' about a fictional universe, the horror! Some people call it fun. What is disgusting is the way in which you take it all so seriously. People like you turn into axe-murderers overnight. You scare me, please go away!

    10. Re:What's the hoopla? by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

      Umm, neither of the 2 proposed new TV series takes place after Return of the Jedi. Both take place between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars.

  49. Makes sense... by FinchWorld · · Score: 1
    ...expanding Star Wars to entertain kids, we've all watched episode one.

    Mesa gonna go an tell da *BANG*

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  50. This might be good by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think for the live-action TV series, this might be good. I would like to see the everyday life of people who live under the empire, with pirates and gangsters and all the other stuff that make up a regular world. As long as they stay away from the force and "save the universe" level plots, it should be interesting.

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    1. Re:This might be good by bobsledbob · · Score: 1


      Sounds like Deep Space Nine to me.

      In short, lame.

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    2. Re:This might be good by Octos · · Score: 1

      They did it already. It was called Firefly. It was way better than anything Lucas would have a hand in. For some reason it was canceled.

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    3. Re:This might be good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can anyone still be interested in this? What can you find in the upcoming TV Star Wars tv show full of "gangsters and pirates" without the "force and save the universe plots" that you can't find in Firefly, already on DVD? The Star Wars universe has absolutely nothing to contribute anymore except tired rehashes.

    4. Re:This might be good by ApostateApostle · · Score: 1

      Hell, get Joss Whedon on this project and I'd be all over that shit!

    5. Re:This might be good by mbourgon · · Score: 1

      I think you meant to say "pirates and ninjas". Then it would be deliberately funny.

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    6. Re:This might be good by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      Hey, a Jedi is basically a samurai, while the Dark Jedi are ninjas. So Star Wars really is pirates and ninjas.

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  51. OMFG by gosand · · Score: 5, Funny
    Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?

    I have never heard anyone wish that Lucas would make *more* Star Wars movies.

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    1. Re:OMFG by Chyeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since Episode I atleast, I remember everyone I knew whining about how he really should do the full nine movies back when we only had III-V. I guess it's one of those 'beware of what you wish for' deals.

    2. Re:OMFG by Drathos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure you have...

      Just not since Episode I came out..

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    3. Re:OMFG by kyouteki · · Score: 1

      And by that, you mean IV-VI?

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    4. Re:OMFG by diabolo-nerd · · Score: 1

      look, Lucas origionally plannerd to manke nine star wars movies. Why doesnt he make the last three? If he does, He should base them off of Timothy zahn's books, Heir to the Empire, Dark force rising, an The Last command.

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  52. Hey... by robyannetta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As long as Lucas has nothing to do with either series (with the exception of licensing the name), they might be worth something. Just get Kevin Smith to direct.

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  53. Not another one! by rjelks · · Score: 5, Funny

    "several dead tauntauns were found in the desert of tatooine, having been beaten to a pulp after dying of starvation."

    I can see it now - CSI: Tatooine.

    Aren't there enough spinoffs already?

    1. Re:Not another one! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      Been there, done that... long, long ago...

      hmmm.... what other genres haven't been done? How about a musical?


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    2. Re:Not another one! by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny
      I can see it now - CSI: Tatooine.

      It's GOT to be better than the Michael Jackson coverage: "CSI:Neverland" and "Extreme Sleepover".

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  54. Lucas, how about... by Uncle_Destroy · · Score: 1, Funny

    A digitally remastered and enhanced "The Star Wars Holiday Special" for the TV masses? Introduce the horror of Star Wars on TV to a whole new generation! -B

  55. timeline by Gogo0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Between episodes III and IV means: No jedi. So what the hell will it be? Without jedi, Star Wars is just Another Show Set in Outer Space. Will there be a convenient pocket of jedi "out there somewhere" that arent killed?

  56. Smell-o-vision? by razmaspaz · · Score: 1

    The first, "Clone Wars," actually exists as series of animated shorts on the Cartoon Network, but Lucas said it will be turned into a "3-D animated version full-series" 30 minutes in length.

    Didn't they try this along with Smell-o-vision? Will I have to go out and purchase Star Wars Approved 3D Glasses?

    And Will I actually believe the wookie is going to rip MY arm off?

    Then again...maybe they just mean that he is going to ruin a perfectly good cartoon with CG.

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  57. yeah yeah yeah by MadMacSkillz · · Score: 1

    ...and a hundred million slashdot nerds will groan about how evil Lucas is. Face reality - A Lucas Star Wars TV show would be a megahit because Lucas, at his worst, is far far better than Rick Berman at his best. Deal with it. The rest of the world doesn't read slashdot or give a rat's ass what you think and if you predict that it will suck or be a flop, you will be wrong.

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  58. Re: by King+Fuckstain · · Score: 1
    " There's way too much new story and background to pick from for new films."
    There's too much story to make a story out of the content? That's funny. I think that the Zahn trilogy would be great as a series of movies. Sure, there's a lot in the books that wouldn't make it into the movies but I don't see how there's a threshold where too much content in the source prevents anything from being created in another medium from it.

    "And, the sequel books are written by Timothy Zahn et al"
    Which is exactly why Star Wars should be in the public domain. Lucas has made his money, it is time for the people to demand ownership of the property. Either the government needs to step in or Lucas needs to have a final moment of redemption and let it go.
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  59. Enterprise on the way out, Star Wars on the way in by Infonaut · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Hmm... I wonder how many TV spin-offs Star Wars will generate before the last blood gets sucked out of the franchise and even die-hard fans throw in the towel.

    Sure, it seems impossible, but look at what happend to Star Trek. For years Trek fans were livin' large, with several shows to choose from, but now it's all going out with a whimper.

    Hopefully Lucas will learn something from the Trek saga, and he won't try to keep a deathgrip on the creative process in the Star Wars TV shows. If fresh talent is able to come in and mess around a bit with the tried-and-true formula, Star Wars could thrive on TV. If they stick to what they've done before, it's a doomed venture.

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  60. Sheesh... by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Why all the negativity?

    We've got no idea at all what a Star Wars TV series will be like. Clone Wars doesn't count; the shorts are constructed completely differently than a longer episode would be. Ewoks and Droids don't count either; they were targeted towards children, and we've got no proof indicating that these will be. The Christmas Special doesn't count. What does that leave us with? Nothing.

    You could argue using Young Indiana Jones as an example, but that was another series entirely. Beyond that, there are lots of other factors - there is more established Star Wars material, for example, or that YIJ was made more than ten years ago and tastes change over time. Hell, they aren't even in the same universe.

    I think the best approach here is to wait and see what we get. How can we criticize what we've never seen? Shame fanboys never seem to pick up on that...

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    1. Re:Sheesh... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I'm just sick of it. It's making me physically ill. Or maybe that's a combination of the coffee, lack of sleep, and the broken air conditioning in the building.

      Either way, I've had enough Star Wars shoved down my throat, and I think many other people have as well. Give it a decade or two to cool off.

    2. Re:Sheesh... by ajs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why all the negativity?

      Ep4 was great because it was something new.

      Ep5 was great because LK worked some heavy magic over it, and it was still something fairly new.

      Ep6 was the warning bell that Lucas had begun to believe that he could do anything and it would still be great. There were moments (Vader looking at his hand; the death of Yoda; etc.), but they were just that: moments. All you have to do is say, "Ewoks," and everyone seems to snap back and remember how disapointed they were. Keep in mind also that Ep6 had LK working his magic again, but more from behind the scenes (script work only) this time.

      Ep1 was an amazing exploration of CG... and a mildly interesting introduction to the prequel trilogy, but again all you have to do is say, "Jar Jar," and people recall the horror...

      Ep2 was a botched love story on top of what was actually not a half-bad action flick, introducing the clone wars. I liked Ep2, but you have to admit that it wasn't worth Ep6 & Ep1.

      Clone Wars was a wonderful bit of work, especially season 3. It just kept getting better, just like Samuari Jack... and THAT is because it was GT doing it, not GL!

      So... in answer to your question, we're being negative because we cannot imagine that Lucas is going to spin off a show worth watching. It's really that simple.

      Now, if he got Joss Whedon to run the show with a few of the writers from Battlestar Galactica, then I could see it working, but not with Lucas in control.

    3. Re:Sheesh... by 605dave · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I especially love the inevitable "he ruined my childhood memories theme". Geez, ever think that no Star Wars movie could live up to your memories? Or that maybe as an adult you would see the movies differently? Every new episode I've seen has been with a room full actual kids who seemed to really enjoy the movie, and weren't too old and cynical to enjoy anything. And I would like to stand up for Mr. Lucas too. Everyone may have opinions about his writing, but some things are facts. He is a visionary when it comes to tech in the movies, and has funded too many film revolutions to count. He also has worked outside of the system, using his resources to literally build the future of filmmaking. And for my opinion on his writing, if you look past the stuff that was there for children and the stilted love scenes you will find IMHO an incredibly rich story of how a noble political system is corrupted from within by using fear and the manipulation of events. But I guess that is not relevant, let's beat up on the stupid character for kids to show how cool we are.

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    4. Re:Sheesh... by tatonca · · Score: 1

      "We've got no idea at all what a Star Wars TV series will be like"

      How quickly we forget the ewok adventures - I for one shiver in my leather-like, authentic reproduction Obi Wan boot covers....

    5. Re:Sheesh... by javaxman · · Score: 1
      Ep2 was a botched love story on top of what was actually not a half-bad action flick, introducing the clone wars. I liked Ep2, but you have to admit that it

      You liked Episode 2 ??

      Even with less Jar Jar compared to Ep1, and an ass-kicking Yoda ( admit it, you always knew he could do that stuff, and yea, I thought it was cool ), it'd be hard for anything to make up for the truly painful dialog scenes with Anakin and Padame. Man, that sucked... there were a good 10-20 minutes that could have been chopped out of that movie and it would have been much easier to take.

      Then again, I have a much higher tolerance for stupid, goofy, childish characters than for stupid, sappy, poorly done 'serious adult' characters. I didn't mind Ewoks and Jar Jar near as much as I hated Anikin and Padame in Episode 2. Goofy I can handle; serious, boring and bad just sucks. Which brings out the point that everyone is a critic, each of us with our own personal bias.

      The first Star Wars movie hit a nerve with it's classic storyline and ( then ) modern effects-laden futuristic setting. American Graffiti was a cool, focused cultural coming-of-age piece. Indiana Jones was a neat, action-packed flick. These are the three cool things George Lucas ever did ( with possible partial credit for Willow ), and he went on to remake and milk them for all they were worth and more. You can't look to the guy to do consitient, high-quality work that's true to the original, that's not his track record. Which is where you're being insightful when you say :

      So... in answer to your question, we're being negative because we cannot imagine that Lucas is going to spin off a show worth watching. It's really that simple.

      There is no reason for us to think it's not going to possibly suck, whatever spin-offs Lucas has planned. There's always hope if someone good is involved, like Gendy Tartovsky ( that guy is brilliant, clearly. Just watch enough of Dexter's Laboratory and Samari Jack, you'll see... ) but left on his own, Lucas is perfectly able to happily churn out painful-to-view junk. There's always hope, but it's small, and mostly related to Lucas finding a good director/co-producer and letting them do most of the real work.

    6. Re:Sheesh... by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 1
      Forget?

      Some of us weren't alive in 1984. :)

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  61. This just in... by CaptCanuk · · Score: 1

    Lucas has secured Rick Berman to ruin his new series.

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  62. dont worry about the main characters, they'll show by deft · · Score: 5, Funny

    laverne and shirley always had the fonz pop up now and then for ratings... sooner or later vader will jump out and say "ayyyyy" with a big thumbs up.

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  63. offtopic by Minute+Work · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wow. There are so many Star Wars bashing posts here that somebody needs to modify my post as being Offtopic.

  64. What a relief! by lheal · · Score: 1

    Since there won't be any main characters in the TV series, it won't spoil the suspense for what happens in Episode IV, V, and VI.

    Oh, wait...

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  65. I have an idea. by Captain+Rotundo · · Score: 1, Troll

    Why doesn't Lucas just give up on producing all this crap and instead focus on lobbying congress to levy a tax to go directly to him. That way he can get his money and we don't have to see his crap or him in the media anymore.

    1. Re:I have an idea. by Dysproxia · · Score: 1

      and we don't have to see his crap or him in the media anymore.

      I'm sure this has been said a couple of times, but you don't have to see his crap if so choose.

  66. I hope this is better than JAG by kpwoodr · · Score: 1

    I remember when the first episode of J.A.G. came on and it was chock full of stock footage ripped straight out of Top Gun.

    Hopefully Lucas will be smart enough to do steer widely from the current franchise. A total rehash of his previous works will likely be met with a ground swell of apathy.

    I personally would rather get less Star Wars if it meant better quality work. Can the prime time stuff and give me the last three episodes over the next 9 years.

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  67. Speilberg Directs by dcmurrin · · Score: 1

    George mentions in the interview that Speilberg did a few rough storyboards for the latest episode. It would have been interesting to see how the entire series would have turned out if Speilberg had directed.

  68. Re: by Dan+Up+Baby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What!? Why should George Lucas's property be in the public domain, because you want even more horrible books about it? I don't believe that holds up in most courts.

    This has to be a parody post, right? Where's the Yakov Smirnov tie-in at the end?

  69. Re:A crash grab? Never! by Tx · · Score: 1

    Considering Ben Dover's filmography, I think he would do a great job!

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  70. Trooper Clerics by thb3 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps he saw the Trooper Clerics shorts and will get Kevin Smith involved, at least that would be more entertaining...

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    1. Re:Trooper Clerics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trooper Clerics?

      Are they barred from using edged weapons? Do they gain +3 to turn undead at 4th level?

  71. God Complex? by CypherXero · · Score: 1

    I think George Lucas is too full of himself.

  72. Here's the deal with the final 3 movies by thepotoo · · Score: 1
    A quick google search reveals this message board, which is just speculation.

    From my understanding, episodes 7 - 9 were mostly condensded into episode 6...that is, they were to cover:

    Finding Luke's sister (not Leia)

    Finding and killing the emperor

    Rebuilding the Jedi temple and reinstating the jedi order.

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    1. Re:Here's the deal with the final 3 movies by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      A quick google search reveals this message board, which is just speculation.

      Yes, just wishful thinking, based on "Chewbacca"s contract having an option to do another three movies. That's just normal covering their bases so they can use him should it happen. When they cast a TV series they usually have all the actors sign 5-year contracts. That's no guarantee the pilot will air, let alone run for 5 years.

  73. WHAT??? by notherenow · · Score: 0
    ...and the other a live-action series, that will be set in the time between Episodes III and IV, but won't feature the main characters

    How does this get classified as Star Wars? Maybe it really Star-Trek. How will we ever know the truth?

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  74. They won't feature the main characters? Good idea. by argent · · Score: 1

    Damn, why didn't he have that idea BEFORE starting work on the Fandom Menace.

  75. When will the Open Source Star Wars 7-9? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Seriously, at the rate he's going, he'll be retired before he gets around to filming those, so he should GPL the script for Star Wars VII, VIII, and IX.

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  76. Breaks with what he said on 60 minutes by fluor2 · · Score: 1

    In his latest 60 minutes interview (the one about episode III), he emphasized that he will NOT do ANYTHING more about Star Wars. He wanted to start doing more artistic movies.

    I really feel he's breaking with his words.

    1. Re:Breaks with what he said on 60 minutes by taustin · · Score: 1

      Like he's never done that before.

  77. None of the Main Characters Means by monopole · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's Jar-Jar and the Ewoks Fun Hour!

  78. Re:Troops by rjelks · · Score: 1

    Troops was excellent. I haven't seen that in a couple of years. LOL.

    "How about a musical? "

    ...pretty sure that was done on the Simpsons.

  79. I would like to see George Lucas work on other... by antdude · · Score: 1

    ... movies instead of the same old. However, I am waiting for the next Indiana Jones movie though but that will be a while.

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  80. I can see it now... by Joel+Rowbottom · · Score: 5, Funny

    [phone rings]

    "George, hi! It's Rick - Rick Berman, you remember Star Trek? Yeah, that one, I sorta invented Star Trek you know... Gene who...? .... Well, we're done with that franchise now... it sorta died out, the demand wasn't there... no... well, y'see, we thought we might be able to do the same for you. Whaddyathink? Couple of spinoff TV series, no original characters... mmhmmm... Brannon reckons we can introduce some of the original characters back later if it doesn't take off... yeah we could do that, tried and tested formula eh... sure, we can meet..."

    *sigh*

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    1. Re:I can see it now... by Altima(BoB) · · Score: 1

      "Not to mention... you know what Star Wars movies desperately need? Time travel. Best way to solve problems. End Episode III by having Luke Skywalker travel back in time to fix everything, but that's just an idea. Do what we do and don't have a plan at all until you drive people away. You, George... You plan too much..."

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    2. Re:I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Waves hand*

      These are not the producers you are looking for.

  81. The funny thing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Need to post on on slashdot and hack on George Lucas and his idea for a StarWars TV show...and then Tivo it."

  82. As long as he makes money, what does he care? by LordZardoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is always painful to see an artist / athlete or whatever keep trying when they no longer appear to measure up to their prime.

    But even if the artist's talent is no longer what it was, or the athlete is past their prime, its their choice to keep going or not. If the artist continues to enjoy performing, let him perform. If the athlete wants to keep playing, let him keep playing.

    So as long as George Lucas is enjoying what he is doing, and making money at it, he should probably keep going. And if you dont like it, dont pay to watch it.

    I for one admire that Lucas has kept creative control of his creation and is in a position to still profit off of it. I may not have liked the Phantom Menace, but its my fault for watching it, not his fault for making it.

    END COMMUNICATION

    1. Re:As long as he makes money, what does he care? by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      I just re-watched the original trilogy recently, I'd have to say this is less of a dimming star failing to retire from the stage gracefully as people realizing that the star was just a flashlight from the start.

      This is the same issue I've got with people who act as if the last two Matrix movies are a complete disappointment compared to the first.

      People have put the early works on a high pedestal and have allowed memory pump them up to be far larger than the works really were, or are.

      Yes, these were works that had a huge impact on our lives. But really, go back and watch them again, objectively, and you'll realize that part of their power had nothing to do with their quality but with when and where they occurred.

    2. Re:As long as he makes money, what does he care? by Mistery*ness27 · · Score: 1

      I don't really agree with grouping a creative artist such as a filmaker in with the generic artists or athletes of our time. Most 'artists' are only profitable while the current 'trends' are on their side, regardless of their age.... Athletes are restricted by the frailty of the human body after countless repetitive hours of activity that the human body wasn't designed to perform..... Comparing an imaginative and creative Writer/Director/Producer/Storyteller like George Lucas to an athlete or artist, who, by the way, are focused and specialized in one (maybe two) extraordinary skills.. is like comparing a 3 Course 5 Star Cousine with a platter of gourmet wienie wraps... Sure, both examples are savoury respectable offerings, with their fair place in polite society. Each earning and deserving of their cultural prestige and status thus justifying their inflated costs.... but while you may enjoy the novelty and convenience of the latter, the former still presides over the realms of taste and class excellence.... Not only by the layering of rich diversity and creativity that it offers, but more-so by the freedom, the skill and the imagination of the creators' themselves that is put right in to the original recipe. Combine these forces together and you have all of the ingredients to make it a truley rare & exclusive... a unique & ultimately a One(Only)-Of-A-Kind Experience. What a treat! It's just too bad we don't get these more often... So lets do us all a favor and not compare the creative genius of the chef, young or old, apprentice or journeymen..... to those 'last-a-thousand-years-with preservatives (aka 'Steroids'-Or-a-Shrewd-Publicist) Frozen & Microwavable' Wienie Wraps...mmKay? :)

    3. Re:As long as he makes money, what does he care? by Mistery*ness27 · · Score: 1

      Just a reminder folks, we are talking about the "Entertainment Industry" here. Since when does a StoryTeller become too old or obsolete to tell stories?? I mean, isn't that how all of the mythology or 'religion' of our global culture was passed down? As far as I know, the first books of the New Testament weren't even written for the first coupla Centuries! AFTER Christ died!! As passed down through the elders and the telling of stories..... I guess we no longer need the elderly for anything, not even the telling of fables for entertainment.... Sorry Mr Lucas, you're just a has-been now, guess you shoulda killed yourself at 45 cuz now your pushin 50!! and boy, we don't legitamize ANYONE over the age of 40!! to tell a story in this society!! Sorry, just had to rant there..... As if! Like what? A human being can't contiue to be creative and use their imagination to enthrall and inspire others after they have already done so and been widely successful at it in their lifetime...? Beware all of you out there who dare to use your creativity at a young age.... you only get to be creative once in your life and after that peak!.... its all downhill to obscure-hood buddy, so...Imagine!... and then Market Your Imaginings;.. Wisely.

    4. Re:As long as he makes money, what does he care? by JonathanBoyd · · Score: 1
      As far as I know, the first books of the New Testament weren't even written for the first coupla Centuries! AFTER Christ died!!

      Actually the earliest copies we have are from a few decades after his death. The earliest epistles, which back up the gospels, date from around 60 AD. You may be thinking of the apocryphal Gospel of Thomas, which dates from around 200AD. This is not considered canon, however, precisely because it comes from such a late date and massively contradicts the rest of the gospels.

    5. Re:As long as he makes money, what does he care? by Mistery*ness27 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for clearing that up. Do you happen to know by what method the epistles were dated and by whom? Just curious.....I always wanted to know how science and researchers come to claim these things as fact. Thank you for your input and thought-provoking argument.

  83. Woo Hoo! by cyranoVR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lucas hiring Genndy Tartakovsky to work on Clone Wars is one of the few things he'd done right since the Prequels. For me, the series exceeded all expectations - lots of Jedi action! This new development - an ongoing Tartakovsky series - can only be a good thing.

    The full 3-D series on the other hand...not so much.

  84. Let's just say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for those of us in the film biz... Jucas is considered a lucky hack. MMMMmmmmKKK

  85. talk show... by SpongeBobLinuxPants · · Score: 2, Funny

    late night with Jar Jar Binks?

  86. For TV by Klivian · · Score: 1

    I don't think the Timothy Zahn trilogy are suited for a TV series. Think the x-wing series are much better choice. Not so much the novels, but starting with the stories from the comic books. I think they are much better suited for TV addoption, the Zahn books are more like movie material.

    1. Re:For TV by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      Think the x-wing series are much better choice.

      Right on.

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  87. No, it isn't by TrentL · · Score: 1

    The Clone Wars cartoons are freaking awesome. THAT is what the movies should have been. I'd love to see a full blown TV series based on them.

  88. They overestimate this technological terror... by limabone · · Score: 2

    ...Lucas has constructed.

    The writing is poor; the acting is mostly mediocre; the mythos of the entire series destroyed by making the force some sort of organic microbes, YET I STILL ENJOY THESE MOVIES VERY MUCH. Why? Interesting characters. (The music of course is among the best ever created, I am just taking that for granted).

    Not deep characters, but interesting.

    So....George's new TV show will not include any of the characters we have grown up with?

    I won't commit to watching or not watching, however I no longer give him the benefit of doubt. I think my excitement for the series is inversely proportional to his involvement.

  89. All your Base are Belong to Us, Skywalker. by mfh · · Score: 1

    First they spoil the Trilogy with the awful Prequels, and now they're considering a lurid TV series and animated cartoons?!

    Think Smallville, with light sabres.

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  90. More Sausage n Cheese from the Fat Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lucas hasn't made a decent film since THX 1138.

    Go home.

  91. Re: by King+Fuckstain · · Score: 1
    "What!? Why should George Lucas's property be in the public domain, because you want even more horrible books about it? I don't believe that holds up in most courts."
    1. No one forces you to read the books, watch the movies.
    2. With more people able to produce content based on the characters, interesting new takes on the content would pop up. Have you read 'Grendel' by John Gardner? It's an interesting addition to the Beowulf mythos and, if Beowulf had been produced in today's IP climate, it would have never existed.
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  92. Re: by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

    No, but it's a valid policy argument. Copyright is meant to result in more original works created than would be otherwise, but also to get those works in the public domain as rapidly as possible, which also results in more derivative works being created. Too much emphasis on just one of these goals unbalances copyright and results in a less than maximum public benefit.

    Copyright probably shouldn't last for longer than 25 years. For Lucas, that would get him Ep 4 from 1977 to the end of 2002, Ep 5 from 1980 to the end of 2005, and Ep 6 from 1983 to the end of 2008.

    It wouldn't prevent him from making more, it'd just put him on an equal footing with regards to those older works. Plus whatever cachet he could have as the originator of the series would always be in his favor.

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  93. Possible Star Wars Spinoffs by teledyne · · Score: 2, Funny

    Law & Order: Bounty Hunter
    Tatooine's Most Funniest Lightsaber Decapitations
    E! True Story: Boba Fett
    One Night in Leia

  94. New live-action series by PainBreak · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they're looking for a space pilot, I hear Scott Bakula's looking for a job...

  95. I Hope... by subl33t · · Score: 1

    ... that he won't be creating the TV stories himself.

    They may actually be good if he lets J. Michael Straczynski take the helm.

  96. ... no, Mail Call! ... by ninjagin · · Score: 1
    Actually, since it'd be General Jar Jar Binks by then, I'm picturing a variant of Mail Call, but instead of Gunny, you'd get something like:

    "Hiya much welcome to thee Mail Call. Meesa get a subspace transmission from Qinxshplote Brnftbbl of Vega 6 who askee 'Dear General, the empire has installed eleven new plasma cannons in my town. They look cool, but I've never seen them in action. Can you tell me how they were developed and how they're used?"

    "Well Qinxshplote, you know meesa like blowins stuffsa kaboom, so meesa have deese nabooean watermelons strapsed to mynocs to show yousa what it all about ..."

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  97. Bounty Hunters get 6 Skill Points a level in 3.5. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard Bounty Hunters will be getting 6 Skill points a level instead of the previous 4 and they'll be nerfing the Dark Side Domain. Greedo still shoots first though.

  98. I thought by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1

    the intire industry were lucky hacks... or are you suggesting there's something "skillful" about producing the next bit hit?

  99. Having stood in line for the original..... by simetra · · Score: 0

    back in 1977, before many of you were born... I now have a son of my own, and he's just old enough to care about movies and stuff. And I cringe, when today's Disnified Star Wars CRAP comes on tv. No, No, No, I tell my son. Star Wars was once a great thing, now it's CRAP. You don't want to watch that CRAP.

    Sigh.

    George Lucas needs to stop fondling his inner child already.

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  100. No thanks by EM+Adams · · Score: 1

    I'd rather play Battlegrounds with an army of spaceships and 10,000 soldiers. Get with the times George and spend more money on computer games that are open sourced.

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  101. more Jar Jar! YAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just confirmed. The new TV series will focus on the side stories involving Jar-Jar with his new magical powers!

  102. A plea for Science Fiction??? by LWATCDR · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I actually Star Wars but if we are going to bring a science fiction series to TV might I make a suggestion?
    The Known Space books would be great.
    The Man Kzin Wars or Ringworld? Please?

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  103. Kind of Glad to Hear This... by lasmith05 · · Score: 0

    The star wars universe is a great place to write spin off stories about. I've always enjoyed Clone Wars (the cartoon), and numerous books from Timothy Zahn and such. The comic books are very good too. You know, it doesn't really matter if episodes I and II are any good. It just interesting to see and fills out the story for third parties to write spin offs about.

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  104. I agree! by Phil+Urich · · Score: 1

    THX-1138 was an admirable piece of work. Despite the fact that seemingly few even know of it, it's nonetheless managed to influence the interesting side of popular culture.

    Nine Inch Nail's "The Downward Spiral" album, for example, opens with a sample from the movie even. On the other hand the Star Wars films have at times had a deleterious effect (the original---and actually Asimov approved--- I, Robot screenplay was trashed by the studio to a large part due to Star Wars . And for that alone, Star Wars actually robbed us of good sci-fi, not the opposite).

    I find it interesting that, having watched the original version and then the directors cut when it recently came out, THX-1138 actually benefitted from the modern additions; it helps smooth over the production values (and is a treat to see widescreen), instead of, I dunno, changing details to make characters more kid-friendly and less edgy (*cough*).

    Lucas started out with talent and vision; but mainstream audiences wanted none of that. Somewhat bitter, he created a little fantasy movie. Audiences loved it! He had learnt his lesson, and continued along those lines . . . but it would be nice if the old Lucas could safely come out now. It's not like spending lots of money on something that doesn't quite succeed will make all that much of a dent in his absurdly large bank account balance.

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    1. Re:I agree! by TIMxPx · · Score: 0

      It's not like spending lots of money on something that doesn't quite succeed will make all that much of a dent in his absurdly large bank account balance

      I think it may have less to do with what's already in his bank account than what will be in it when he's done. I think Lucas puts artistry on the back burner and concentrates on the same blockbuster crap that makes other movies suck so much, cutesy kid stuff and hammy one-liners, the kind of thing that didn't so obviously infest IV-VI (although i can't deny there was some hammy crap in those movies, too).

      There are clear marketing and moneymaking schemes built into the new movies, such as the scene in Episode II when Anakin steers into a flame while piloting a speeder instead of away from it, just to make a scene that looks like a video game, slaloming around obstacles.

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    2. Re:I agree! by qzulla · · Score: 1

      I couldn't find it on wired.com but the print issue addresses this.

      qz

  105. Just by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    let it die. For the love of God, let it die.

  106. Not in the book (possible spoilers) by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    In "Labryth of Evil" (you can get it at the library if you don't want to pay hardback prices) it outlines that Grevious was actually a general for some race, not shaped like that though - he was given the body after a terrible accident destroyed the rest of him. Here's the spoiler - he's really pissed off at the Republic because he thinks they are the ones that ignored his species and caused the accident.

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    1. Re:Not in the book (possible spoilers) by Digital+Pizza · · Score: 1
      Thanks for the background info; I probably wouldn't have even known about that book anyway.

      Must've been one hell of an accident to leave him with just his eyes and brain.

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  107. Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guys, give the man a rest. Like everyone else, I have my own criticism of Episodes I to III (in particular, I'd have loved for them to target an adult audience rather than a kid one, but that's just my 'I've grown up over the course of the last 20 years' bias kicking in).

    Lucas has practically made Science Fiction movies acceptable for the big screen, and he deserves a huge big respectful 'Thank you Sir' for that.

    If you disagree with his direction, well, write and direct a block-buster genre-creating film and use the proceeds to create your own movie studio and make your own movies.

  108. Admittedly... by CloudsSpaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This doesn't sound like too bad of an idea.

    Assuming Lucas can cut back on the melodrama and other crap that's plagued the new movies, this could turn out to be pretty cool. I'd love to see self-contained episodes that show the stories of average, ordinary "Star Wars citizens" caught up in a galaxy suddenly distressed by revolutionary warfare and political change.

    What if we could see the empire's dominion actually forming (something it seems like the new trilogy is barely talking about)? The civil wars that would erupt on planets as communities clashed over whether to fall in line with the Empire or rebel? I mean, just imagine being able to view the transition from a Jedi-ordered galaxy to one where the Jedi "religion is all but extinct," with the exception of the whispers and stories and rumors that would just be starting to spread of one Darth Vader.

    The idea excites me. With good stories and direction, it could really become one of the better creations of the Star Wars Universe.

    So, basically: Please, Lucas... stay as uninvolved in the project as possible.

  109. It's a trap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a trap!

  110. Why do you think you'll not like the new movie? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    If you liked Clone Wars, why do you think you'll not like the new movie? Especially season 2, which seems to be kind of a mirror in terms of content and pacing.

    And the end of Clone Wars is the very start of EP3! Come on, get excited again - I think we are finally getting the Star Wars movie we were all looking forward to since before EP1. It just took him two movies to get the backstory in place.

    There's a reason this movie is PG-13.

    Also, if you liked the Clone Wars you'll probably like the book "Labarinth of Evil" set right in the same timeframe and even intertwined a little with the Clone Wars Series. It also ends just at the start of EP3.

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  111. A New Hype by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    ...but won't feature the main characters.

    They should feature the Star Wars Kid. At least he's got some passion, and he was way more entertaining on screen than any of the prequels thus far.

  112. I feel a disturbance in the force by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Funny

    as if millions of Star Wars fans suddenly let out a mighty groan.

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  113. Of course by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The point is that that whole time Jedi are being hunted. It just starts in EP3, but there's no reason it has to finish there.

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  114. Maybe we could have a crime theme ... by mikael · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... and call the show "Judge Jedi".

    The Judge appears weekly and passes judgement on smalltown disputes between colonists, bounty hunters, and off-world traders.

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    1. Re:Maybe we could have a crime theme ... by jangobongo · · Score: 1


      ... and they could get the Star Wars Kid to be the executioner/enforcer.

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    2. Re:Maybe we could have a crime theme ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I Dredd that thought!

    3. Re:Maybe we could have a crime theme ... by gandalf23atwork · · Score: 1
      I think itd be kinda cool if theyd change it around a bit, maybe one week is an episode of Troops (a Star Wars version of Cops), maybe one week its Jedi CSI (or CSI: Tatooine) then next it's Law & Order: Jedi Elimination Unit (JEU), of course, then you've got your WB-ish episodes, or something like that.

      -gandalf23@work

  115. So what? by RatBastard · · Score: 2, Informative
    The books for Episodes 7-9 have been out since 1992-1993

    So what? The books aren't canon and can be disposed of. Only the movies are canon. Everything else is just people exploring "what if" stories.

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    1. Re:So what? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      See one of my other replies. The books I mentioned are the official continuation.

    2. Re:So what? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      See one of my other replies. The books I mentioned are the official continuation.

      Some Lucasfilm flak advertising this or that book as "canon" means little. All this stuff is fake, and George Lucas can change the canon whenever he wants. (Other publishers have rejected "canon" too)

      For a specific example, the Star Wars movie produced in 1977 (Episode IV) used to be canon, which means that events it depicted were "true", so officially, Han shot first. But as we all know, Lucas de-canonicalized the original movies, denying that they even existed, and replacing them with "Special Editions" that were worse in several ways.

      So if he wants to stomp over the continuity of a book to make a profitable movie, he absolutely will.

  116. 1st Battlestar Galactica was Star Wars inspired by peter303 · · Score: 1

    In my memory, the first Battlestar Galactica was inspired the first Star Wars movie. The models and robo-camera F/X, the action and cheesey characters are resembled Star Wars.

    1. Re:1st Battlestar Galactica was Star Wars inspired by blackpaw · · Score: 1

      Possibly, However I suspect they more resemble the 70's - worlds cheesist decade ever. Thankgod I was too young to make a proper tit of myself then - merely the eighties, where the tit potentional was much lower.

    2. Re:1st Battlestar Galactica was Star Wars inspired by Champion3 · · Score: 1

      If you watch the fourth disc on the original trilogy box set, they indicate that the Millennium Falcon ship design was changed because the original design (what became the blockade runner) looked too much like a ship from Battlestar Galactica.

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  117. in spite of by sydres · · Score: 1

    all the people bad mouthing starwars their is only a handfull of you that won't go to see it, I know I will, Or at least wait till it is in the reduced bin at walmarts and pick up my copy

    1. Re:in spite of by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      Video Ezy, $1 rental.

  118. Something new every show! by Uncle+Warthog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just think of it: With Mr. Lucas' habit of .. um .. tweaking and adjusting his creations, we'll never see the same episode twice, even with reruns. This might be the best thing to hit television ever.

    1. Re:Something new every show! by Scorchio · · Score: 1

      Either that, or the entire series comprises of the same episode week after week, with random bits of editing and new CG bolted on each time. The challenge is that the final episode should tell an entirely different story to the first.

  119. Re:Troops by unikron · · Score: 1

    How about Joss Whedon takes over SW Universe?
    A three series franchise:

    1. Bobba Fett the bounty hunter
    2. Millenium Falcon
    3. The Darths

  120. Well what I've heard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard that Lucas actually forfitted the rights to episodes 7-9 as part of the terms of his divorce. That's why you'll never see those movies, otherwise, of course Lucas would try to cash out and continue his series.

    Honestly, I can hardly consider Ep 1 and 2 to be Star Wars and Lucas has left so much plot for Ep3 it'd have to be 4 hrs + to cover it all and be any good at all. But I am sure it'll suck hard...

  121. Hmmm by KipCas · · Score: 1

    Does this mean the nerds will line up and camp out in front of their TVs?

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  122. Call me cautious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call me cautious, but I'll wait until Netcraft confirms it.

  123. Rare Public Appearance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Speaking "rare public appearances", Lucas will be the keynote speaker at the computer graphics convention SIGGRAPH this summer.

  124. Wrong Series! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Things Lucas could be doing right now...
    -Final Trilogy (Luke as Jedi Master)
    -Shadows of the Empire (Boba Fett action)
    -Podrace. I-Max. Think about it.
    -TV Series w/ Luke as head of the Academy, rumored to have been seeking Mark Hamill himself and his comic-inspired friend, Kevin Smith (say what you want about Smith's abilities, he'd be 100% true to the source material... minus Mewes in walk-on roles).
    -Any project that has no Ewoks and certainly no Jar-Jar. ...considering the wealth of options, how did he screw up this bad? And 2:1 says Jar-Jar makes the series anyway.

    1. Re:Wrong Series! by Craig_P92669 · · Score: 1

      "-Any project that has no Ewoks and certainly no Jar-Jar. ...considering the wealth of options, how did he screw up this bad? And 2:1 says Jar-Jar makes the series anyway.

      But how 'bout one where Wookies hunt and evicerate Ewoks and Jar-Jars?

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  125. Seems fitting by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Another question that came up in the same session was "isn't the series of movies really all about R2?".

    Lucas said it was a really good point, that R2 was in fact a real hero across all the movies in cosntantly saving people and if you think about it is the only one to survive through all the movies intact (not sure why C3-PO wouldn't fit the bill either, but there you have it).

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    1. Re:Seems fitting by Number14 · · Score: 1

      Well, 3PO spends several points not so much 'intact', though he at the end he has survived and is intact, so that seems like a fine distinction.

  126. Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising,----- MOVIE! by Wacky_Wookie · · Score: 1

    I really, really, want Mr. Lucus to make or Autherizse movies made from Zahn's books! Crazy Hope: Michel Mann (Las of the Mohicains) Directs!

  127. We're doomed. by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

    That's what C3PO would say if he were here.

  128. KOTOR by shoebert · · Score: 1

    If the spif-offs have a story at the same level of quality as KOTOR, I would be ecstatic.

    1. Re:KOTOR by smarterray · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

  129. Main characters may be mentioned but not shown. by RagingR2 · · Score: 1

    I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to create a spinoff without hiring Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman or Hayden Christiansen. The story could just focus on one of the many places affected by the the galactic wars, on a small scale level, for instance. That way I can perfectly see how they could create a story that's interesting from both drama and sci-fi points of view, and not feature any main Star Wars characters. What you said about main characters being sprinkled throughout Star Wars novels may still be true for this series as well; I mean they could mention an important event and a name now and then, but the character wouldn't necessiraly have to appear on screen. After all; that's probably not what the series is gonna be about; it's a spin off, not a bridge story.

  130. Copyrights by kdekorte · · Score: 1

    I think copyrights should expire 5 to 10 years after the last day of use by the copyright owner. That way if something is abandoned then eventually it would be released into the public domain, but something like Mickey Mouse would be held by Disney for as long as they kept using him.

    1. Re:Copyrights by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      That would permit perpetual use and would be unconstitutional.

      It's also bad policy, since it tends to avoid still-useful works from entering the public domain, and would give the copyright holder too much control over the ultimate expiration of the copyright.

      Want to try again?

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  131. Re:dont worry about the main characters, they'll s by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

    Then they can have Vader jump over some evil kind of "shark-like" monster....to get better ratings, of course

  132. Droids and Ewok cartoons in the 80s by dahlek · · Score: 1
    Way the frell back, I remember these two Sat. morning cartoons, one was about R2D2 and C3PO (or is it 3CPO?) and the other about Ewoks.

    Compared to the other cartoons on at the time, I really liked both. If I remember right, the Droids show went off before the Ewok show did, and then they remade the Ewok show, making it simpler animation-wise and stupider...

    Yeah, it was cheesy and geared for kids, but hell, I was a kid at the time and I really liked them...I mean, it was every bit as good as Transformers or that cartoon where they always called Godzilla to come and save the day - of course, neither was as good as Robotech or Voltron, but when I saw those I was a bit older and cared more for some emotional realism and drama.

    These are not to be confused with the live action Ewok movie thing or the Holiday Special *shudders*.

  133. Oh great...... by Hits_B · · Score: 1

    fresh meat for the Star Wars purists...blood in the water...let the flames begin!!!

  134. Well.. Im happy about this. by AzraelKans · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There could be different opinions, but I believe the clone wars micro series have much more quality than anyone expected and to be honest they are WAY better than the recent movies (without chesy actors and cg special effects) so if they are making more thats sounds all good to me. They are extremely anime like (is from the makers of samurai jack after all) so it makes for a good combination.

    Im worried about the live action series though. I have the idea it would look like "MK: conquest" for some reason. after all Star wars and low budget TV dont mix.

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  135. As executive producer? by jangobongo · · Score: 2, Informative
    This USA Today article gives some interesting details.
    • The second and most ambitious project will involve a live-action series. He wants it to be similar to the serialized 'The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles' TV series he executive-produced in 1992. Lucas plans to film the entire first season all at once, with shooting to begin in about a year. Lucas says he will set up the show, but then plans to step back and move on to other projects.
    I really liked the 'Young Indiana Jones Chronicles' and was disappointed when it was cancelled. Maybe if GL stays in the executive producer role for the Star Wars series, it won't be so bad. Maybe.
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  136. Seems obvious... by oscartheduck · · Score: 0

    Seems to me that the Animatrix made a small fortune, so a television series for Star Wars seems like a good idea to.

    Wonder if they'll rework some of the comics scripts.

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  137. Into the Toilet by triso · · Score: 1

    Good to see that George's career is progressing quickly into the toilet. Now he's pitching more and more to TV and not feature films. He deserves it too.

  138. Unanswered questions by cgenman · · Score: 1

    Honestly, what I want to know is what happened between Return of the Jedi and Episode 1.

  139. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's not be excessively paranoid. Copyright has not yet been extended to Valenti's infamous "forever minus a day." So even after Disney and Sonny Bono's machinations, Beowulf still would have lapsed into the public domain one or two millennia before Gardner was born.

    I can understand that the Bono Act is ridiculous and even sympathize that the Berne Convention's minimum of life plus 50 is excessive, but I don't see why it is unreasonable to at least wait until the creator's body is cold before suggesting his work should be in the public domain.

  140. The novels, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Things like the novels and comic books are not considered canon.

  141. Re:Your Wrong...sorry by lymph · · Score: 0
    I've been visiting the various incarnations of supershadow.com for over 6 years, and all of the plots for the last 3 movies are there. In fact he had the script for epIII up years ago and it hasn't changed much in that time.

    If you really want to be "informed" about star wars, visit that site. The site may seem like bullshit, but it is not. It's the real deal.

    Like I said I've been visiting his site since before epI came out and he's always right. In fact, a lot of the fan ideas from that site are incorporated in epII and epIII. Lucas, didn't want to use fan ideas, even after epI sucked ass. But before epII went into production, he started caving and using fan ideas in the script(Fett being the biggest one, and the Yoda duel).

    Your going to shit your pants when you see how good epIII is. Most of the ideas in this movie are fan based...reallly. That is why it kicks ass! Your going to see it at least 3 times, admit it.

  142. Re:Cameos? by lymph · · Score: 0
    The show won't be about the main characters. That's what the movies are for. You will see cameos from Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader, and the Skywalker Twins though.

    This TV show is about life after the fall of the Republic, not about Anakin and his family and friends, though they have a major impact on the Galaxy. You will see new people and planets and how the "Rise of the Empire" affects everyone.

  143. Spin offs can get it so very wrong sometimes by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    Did you by chance see last Friday night's Enterprise?

    I've never managed to ge through an entire episode, after a few minutes of something so depressingl horrible, I turn off the TV or go watch some news channel to cleanse my mind with images of real world atrocities, to show me that there are worse things than destroying a beloved series.

    I've seen the ad, I don't think I'd like it.
    Much like DS9's best episode relied on using a lot of footage from a good episode from a better series, I think this too is only rehasing some fun TOS episode, and it's exactly good, it's only reminescent of something better.

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    1. Re:Spin offs can get it so very wrong sometimes by unitron · · Score: 1
      So what you're saying is that you haven't actually seen it but you've already got an opinion about it that's set in stone?

      I'd rather not post any spoilers so just let me say that you really ought to watch it first and then decide how you feel about it.

      I'm specifically referring, BTW, to the episode "In a mirror, darkly: Part 1". No guarantees that part 2 won't fall back on polarity reversed time-traveling space nazi worm hole transporter buffer overflows to resolve everything, but part 1 was a glimpse of what could have been.

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  144. Re:dont worry about the main characters, they'll s by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

    Then they can have Vader jump over some evil kind of "shark-like" monster....to get better ratings, of course

    It was tried, but "Boba Fett jumps the Sarlack" turned into a fiasco.

  145. But he already turned it into a bad tv show by sserendipity · · Score: 1

    it's just only available at movie theaters...

  146. I was wondering if perhaps that was what he meant by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Although if that wer ethe case you'd think that R2-D2 being knocked out by the Jawas might have counted the same way! Or getting knocked out on the X-Wind at the end of Star Wars.

    But it's true R2 was never blasted to pieces like C3-PO was. He was just a little fried.

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  147. Remember Young Indiana Jones by R3N3D · · Score: 1

    That was a spin-off of a great movie series. Unfortunately, it didn't work on the small screen. Is Georgy writing and directing the new series? leave it alone, Georgy. Tell your story and get it over with.

  148. American Graffiti by Scott7477 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't forget this one: I have fond memories. Here's the editorial review from Amazon.com:

    Here's how critic Roger Ebert described the unique and lasting value of George Lucas's 1973 box-office hit, American Graffiti: "[It's] not only a great movie but a brilliant work of historical fiction; no sociological treatise could duplicate the movie's success in remembering exactly how it was to be alive at that cultural instant." The time to which Ebert and the film refers is the summer of 1962, and American Graffiti captures the look, feel, and sound of that era by chronicling one memorable night in the lives of several young Californians on the cusp of adulthood. (In essence, Lucas was making a semiautobiographical tribute to his own days as a hot-rod cruiser, and the film's phenomenal success paved the way for Star Wars.) The action is propelled by the music of Wolfman Jack's rock & roll radio show--a soundtrack of pop hits that would become as popular as the film itself. As Lucas develops several character subplots, American Graffiti becomes a flawless time capsule of meticulously re-created memory, as authentic as a documentary and vividly realized through innovative use of cinematography and sound. The once-in-a-lifetime ensemble cast members inhabit their roles so fully that they don't seem like actors at all, comprising a who's who of performers--some of whom went on to stellar careers--including Ron Howard, Richard Dreyfuss, Harrison Ford, Cindy Williams, Mackenzie Phillips, Charles Martin Smith, Candy Clark, and Paul Le Mat. A true American classic, the film ranks No. 77 on the American Film Institute's list of all-time greatest American movies. --Jeff Shannon

    I totally agree with this review.

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  149. George Lucas: Marketing Genius by Scott7477 · · Score: 1

    I saw the M&M commercial the other night introducing dark chocolate ones: Darth Vader chokes the yellow one into submission. This has to be up there in the top marketing events.
    Forbes has him at #194 on their list of world's richest people with $3 billion. I think that is a lowball estimate.

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    1. Re:George Lucas: Marketing Genius by Kyrene · · Score: 1

      They wouldn't happen to have those commercials recorded online, would they? I haven't seen any of them.

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  150. Mini-bio of Lucas on Salon.com by Scott7477 · · Score: 1

    Here is the text of an old essay about GL that appeared on Salon a while back; I found it insightful. Helps to have a little perspective on why a guy does what he does:

    By Jim Paul
    May 18, 1999 | In August 1976, George Lucas was exhausted and desperate. He had been in London, directing the actors in "Star Wars," a film he had every reason to believe would fail. The usual turmoil and sheer labor of the set had been made worse by the lordly British studio unions, who quit promptly at 5:30 for tea, and by the money people back in Burbank, Calif., who in the end pulled the fiscal plug on the filming. At the end of 16 weeks of shooting, Fox gave Lucas three days to finish two weeks of work, a cost-saving move that appears at least ironic now that "Star Wars" and its succeeding films have gone on to gross billions. At the time Lucas had to hire triple crews and divide the stage into three sets, on each of which he directed the action for the final three days. "I cared about every single detail," he recalled (including the duct-taping of Princess Leia's breasts -- "No jiggling in the Empire," noted Carrie Fisher). By the end of shooting Lucas was pale, ill, ready to drop.

    At that point he flew from London to Los Angeles, where Lucasfilm was headquartered in those days, and found that his special effects unit, having spent more than $1 million of its $2 million budget, had completed only three shots. Lucas was outraged. He made arrangements to assume control of the unit, then flew home to San Francisco, where he began having chest pains. He was taken to Marin General Hospital, diagnosed with exhaustion and held overnight. The next morning he took a vow. "That's when I really confirmed to myself that I was going to change," he told biographer Dale Pollock. "I wasn't going to make more films, I wasn't going to direct anymore. I was going to get my life a bit more under control."

    George Lucas has more or less stuck to his vow. He has made more films, but at a distance, as a producer. The release of "The Phantom Menace" will show us George Lucas the director for the first time since the original "Star Wars." Indeed, Lucas also seems to have gotten his life "a bit more under control." In interviews of late he has described the last 20 years as being taken up with parenting his children and recovering from his divorce. But this puts a homey gloss on an astoundingly successful and labor-intensive enterprise.

    Much that eluded him in the beginning is now within Lucas' grasp. He has amassed and consolidated his fortune (in the last 10 years his net worth has gone from about $25 million to somewhere near $2 billion) and made solid investments, so that now he can finance his films entirely. Never again will someone give George Lucas three days to do what should take two weeks.

    George Lucas' gifts are difficult to categorize in conventional film-industry terms; he has defied Hollywood's expectations all along. In his early days as a rebel filmmaker, he made a student film called "1:42:08: A Man and His Car," which mostly consisted of a yellow race car doing laps at speed. Escape from and defiance of authority have always been a central theme for Lucas, both in his films and in his career as a whole. In his first feature, "THX-1138," the hero flees an oppressive, sexless, bureaucratic society, where robotic police give up the chase only when they exceed their budget for the operation. In perhaps his farthest-out moment, in 1969, Lucas was hired by David Maysles to shoot the Rolling Stones in concert at Altamont. (Pollock reports that Lucas "can't remember" whether he filmed a young black man, Meredith Hunter, being stabbed to death by Hell's Angels, as Mick Jagger sang "Under my Thumb.") In any case, Lucas continued to challenge the industry through the 1970s and '80s, when it represented the Evil Empire, and does so even more profoundly now, as lord of the manor on Skywalker Ranch in Northern California's Marin County.

    Though he has said of directing "The Phantom Menace" that it was "much m

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  151. Episode 3.5: Flogging of a Dead Horse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leave the carcass alone! /DevL

  152. Special (School) Editions by NoMaster · · Score: 1

    Remember kids, cap 'em & burn 'em when you see 'em - before Lucas releases the "enhanced" edition on DVD, and you're all crying because he refuses to release the originals...

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  153. End ST and SW in one big crossover film! by master_p · · Score: 1, Funny

    What would be greater than ending Star Trek and Star Wars together in a big space opera adventure with a comedy tone? it would be really hillarious to see Geordi La Forge to try to explain the physics of the Jedi Force to Jean Luc Picard...or Chewbakka and Worf sharing the same apartment. Han Solo as a Starfleet commander onboard the Enterprise would be a tremendous replacement for Kirk, since they essentially are the same character (and similar to Indiana Jones, too). Riker to make a move on Princess Leia...Yoda trying to train Wesley Crusher to be a Jedi...Councellor Troi going crazy from 'too much disturbance in the force'...the Enterprise against the Death Star...Q making fun of Darth Vader...Lt Commander Data assigned a mission with Luke Skywalker...the plans of Anakin Skywalker to dominate the universe by replacing the Borg queen...the possibilities are endless!

    1. Re:End ST and SW in one big crossover film! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and then when the people went in we could wall up the theater doors! Seriously, a greater concentration of obnoxious dweebs may never be gathered. We would HAVE to take advantage of the situation, it may never come again.

  154. Re: by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

    Why should George Lucas's property be in the public domain,

    Because as the "Phantom Edit" of Star Wars Episode One has demonstrated, many people do Star Wars better than George Lucas can.

    If Star Wars had been public domain 5 years ago, the huge error called "Episode One" wouldn't have happened like it did (because, at least, it would be competing with other Star Wars films from people who actually understand what was cool about the originals- like Kevin Smith, for one, or maybe Spielburg).

  155. Time will tell by IPFreely · · Score: 1
    After Jedi, people were squeeling loudly about Ewoks and a bad story. The compalining was as bad then as EP I is now. But time settled it out, people got used to the story the way was it was, and old wounds healed.

    It will happen again. People will get used to EP I and II ( and III ?) if they are viewed as bad now. They will become history rather than something to complain about.
    Lucas needs to take another ten year break before tackling EP VII, VIII, IX.

    Maybe this is a good thing for Star Wars. Something will continue to exist for now while we wait for new, fresh storylines to fill in after EP VI.

    What's the worst that could happen? Someone could write a bunch of bad stories that go nowhere and distort the future timeline of a beloved sci-fi series. It'll run a few seasons and get canceled over the pitiful cries of a few diehard fans while the rest of the original fan base yawn?
    Baah, It could never happen!

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  156. Re:dont worry about the main characters, they'll s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about... having a SHARK... jump the FONZE?!

  157. Don't get me wrong: I sampled it before I judged by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    So what you're saying is that you haven't actually seen it but you've already got an opinion about it that's set in stone? I'd rather not post any spoilers so just let me say that you really ought to watch it first and then decide how you feel about it.

    I saw the preview and read the synopsis.
    I knew the Show called "Enterprise" would suck before it came out, I knew as soon as it was announced. I knew because Rick Berman explained what kind of show he thought Star Trek should be in an interview in 1991 and I've seen him work his toward the apotheosis of his vision for a decade, and it was incrementally suckier and suckier. Why? Because what he wanted to make was not Star Trek, he want to milk the cash cow (his words) and he's used focus groups of trekkies to figure out the workings of the golden goose (his words).

    I can see how rehashing the TOS mirror universe is appealing. They did that with DS9 and the people who didn't think DS9 was a huge piece of shit swallowed it up, I even watched a few of those eps... sadomasochist evil parralel universe lesbians are indeed fun to watch, but it was T&A, not good storytelling. I know I won't like it, even if there are genuine moments of goodness speckled in there, I know because I have systematically not liked what Berman has been spewing for years, so unless he's been replaced by his mirror universe counterpart, the trend will go unbroken.

    It's not one of those "It'll suck" comment, it's an "it will KEEP ON sucking" comment. Lack of delusional enthousiasm, not ignorant prejudice.
    You don't know me, so it's normal for you to judge me and my reasons without knowing all the facts, but trust me, if I do like it, I will be EXTREMELY surprised.

    Maybe someday I'll watch it, in the mean time, I'd rather not set myself up for frustration and disapointment, again.

    I'm specifically referring, BTW, to the episode "In a mirror, darkly: Part 1". No guarantees that part 2 won't fall back on polarity reversed time-traveling space nazi worm hole transporter buffer overflows to resolve everything, but part 1 was a glimpse of what could have been.

    This is what I mean, you've enjoyed part one and are full of expectant positivism.
    I am waiting for reviews of part one and two before I submit myself to another viewing of Enterprise.
    A glimpse... but, by now you've been conditioned to accept something quite low on the scale of tolerability. Is it acutally "good", or does it seem that way because it sucks less?

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  158. Re:Time will tell (you got that right) by gosand · · Score: 1
    After Jedi, people were squeeling loudly about Ewoks and a bad story. The compalining was as bad then as EP I is now. But time settled it out, people got used to the story the way was it was, and old wounds healed.

    Actually, ROTJ was held up by the strengths of the other two movies. You know, the old "two out of three ain't bad" rationale. And in fact, as a trilogy, you could overlook the ewoks and bad story because the first two were that damn good.

    But now, if you look at all the moview, you have 2 good ones and 3 bad ones. Now all of a sudden, the truth comes out. Lucas got lucky with the first two (or they were good despite his involvement). Once he fully took over the reins, the franchise (in the truest sense of the word) took a quality nosedive. Sure, he still made tons of money, but the movies were terrible. Now, I don't consider the trilogy to be that great, I can weed out ROTJ because it fits in better with the other crap he made.

    So you are right that time will tell, but not in the way you thought.

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  159. Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Dubber · · Score: 1
    I think the "Prequel" plot approvals came about after Splinter of the Mind's Eye had Luke & Leia kissing in a more than familial manner.
    I have a copy of the paperback and searched for other copies (pre-internet) to no avail. It's pretty easy to find copies now, but for a long time friends & I assumed it was pulled by Lucas, et al. as an unacceptable fork in the plot.

    -Dubber
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  160. Re:I was wondering if perhaps that was what he mea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But 3PO was a coward.
    He survived by running in fear from everything that could cause him harm,
    R2-D2, on the other hand, bravely charged into the action. (and was fried no less that 3 times, once per each of the original movies)

  161. More movies! by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    No, don't retire. Pick up the THX 1138 thread and run with it. Make the movies Star Wars prevented you from making.

    Yeah, where is my damn Howard the duck prequil? Do you know how long I've been waiting for that film?

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  162. Alleged 3rd Trilogy by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

    I first heard of this legend in 1980 in Time Magazine's cover story on Empire Strikes Back. That Time article is here. I'm not subscribed, so I can't read it all, so I can't remember if they quoted Lucas directly, but they definitely said there would be 9 episodes and that only R2 and C-3PO would be in all 9.

    1. Re:Alleged 3rd Trilogy by GreenSwirl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah, the actual passage is here. And they are indeed quoting Lucas. So, Lucas is revising history again. Big news. Anyway, everybody just enjoy this last time you'll ever have that "new Star Wars movie is coming out in just a few weeks" feeling.

  163. What a bitchfest. by DroopyStonx · · Score: 1

    Mention George Lucas and all of slashdot begins acting as if they could do better.

    Puhlease.

    Get back in line, because you know your stupid asses are the first ones that will be paying to see his stuff, regardless of what you're posting behind your secure anonymity.

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  164. Star Wars do-overs by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

    To see Han shoot first, you can buy the original Laserdisc or VHS tapes on EBay. Good luck finding a copy that doesn't say "A NEW HOPE" in the opening crawl, though. It was added while the movie was still in theaters. Regarding the "Special Editions", I liked the FIRST attempt at the new Jabba scene where Han steps on Jabba's tail. They changed Jabba's reaction to this on the new DVDs and it's not as funny. They made him too dark in the DVDs, too. To me the "Special" ESB is actually an improvement, because Lucas doesn't monkey with the action in the scenes, he just visually enhances them. But, I HATE the new musical number in Return of the Jedi. The old song was way better. Lucas could have just CGI-rendered Sy Snootles, but no he had to change the whole song and add a character covered with unconvincing CGI hair. And now, one of the new TV shows is going to be a strict CGI remake of the Clone Wars cartoons? They can re-use all the work they put into rendering the Star Wars universe for the movies, so shouldn't there be some budget left over for some scripts? The live-action show sounds promising. I'll take a weekly dose of lightsaber action, hell yeah. Much preferred to waiting for more overstuffed movies that would take place after the main story's done.

  165. Simpsons did it! by CrazyDwarf · · Score: 1

    No, wait... that was Lucas.
    I remember in the 80's seeing made for television cartoons DROIDS and some ewok movies. They didn't seem to last very long or go anywhere. I wonder why he thinks this time will be any different. Someone once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results." Can this be submitted as proof that the all powerful Darth Lucas is off his rocker?

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  166. Heir to the Empire ... by willtsmith · · Score: 1


    Heir to the Empire would be an excellent 3D cartoon. But the story is already known, and the actors are too old to portray themselves now.

    Lucas commented more than once that he wanted his actors "aged". It could very well be that George is lying, that he actually WILL make VII-IX. But he will take a brake before he does it.

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  167. What Lucas SHOULD do ... by willtsmith · · Score: 1


    Lucas SHOULD be doing a TV series for the WB in "Buffy/Smallville" style about Lukes teenage apprentices (a much older Luke).

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  168. The best move ... by willtsmith · · Score: 1


    The best move could be another young "Harrison Ford". Find another young actor destined to die from a drug overdose and tell the "Han Solo" story.

    The hut world is bound to be a lot more interesting that the Galactic World. The huts have all kinds of cool aliens around. The Emperor is pretty fond of uniformity and order.

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  169. Another prequel!!! by willtsmith · · Score: 1


    Tell Yoda's story in another movie. I want to see what happened BEFORE with the Sith!!!

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  170. A lot of people barked about Roddenbery ruining .. by willtsmith · · Score: 1

    ... ruining Star Trek ... UNTIL ... he died and Rick Berman took over and turned it into a quivering mass of dog poop.

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  171. If you're wearing a Star Wars costume ... by willtsmith · · Score: 1

    ... and it's not Halloween, you SHOULD be groaning.

    Hey the fans are the ones who invest so much of their life in a fictional story in the first place. If they want to be angry at anyone for being dissapointed, they should be angry at themselves for writing their OWN scripts for future movies and not liking what Lucas had planned.

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  172. It's already been done ... by willtsmith · · Score: 1


    It's called the evening news as of the last 5 years.

    My observation is that most people who don't like the prequel backstory are conservatives. They simply can't see how a smiling congenial man could be evil spawn intentionally tearing his own nation apart and setting his enemies at each other's throats so that he can take all the power for himself. And all the while, the people LOVE him for it.

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  173. Re: by Dan+Up+Baby · · Score: 1

    And where does this leave George Lucas? That's what you're not remembering, it's HIS stuff. I'm sure someone could use my computer better than me, but I'm not going to give it to them because of it.

  174. Re:Your Wrong...sorry by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    If you really want to be "informed" about star wars, visit that site.

    *sigh*

    Supershadow again... :-(

    See also this.

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  175. Re: by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

    And where does this leave George Lucas? That's what you're not remembering, it's HIS stuff.

    That's a circular argument. It's only HIS stuff because the long term provided by copyright law makes it his. We are saying that copyright should be shortened with legislation.

    Your objection makes as much sense as: "Because alcohol is illegal, Prohibition should never be repealed"

    And where does this leave George Lucas?

    Hypothetically, if copyright lasted only about 30 years, it would leave George Lucas with the $3 billion dollars he's already earned over that time period. In my opinion, that is more than sufficient compensation for his previous artistic works.

    Giving him more money will not make Star Wars any better (in fact, maybe if he had less money, he would've focused more on making Episode 1 a better movie)

  176. George Lucas has a big fat neck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He looks like a wookie/turkey

  177. Re:A lot of people barked about Roddenbery ruining by Infonaut · · Score: 1
    Rick Berman took over and turned it into a quivering mass of dog poop.

    Good point. Now it's not even quivering.

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  178. Mod that shit insightful. by AoT · · Score: 1

    Better yet, let him redirect I-III.

    Burton at least knows how to balance acting and special effects.

  179. Re:Don't get me wrong: I sampled it before I judge by unitron · · Score: 1

    I was about to suggest that you just watch the first 10 or 15 minutes (not counting commercials) and then decide if it's worth watching the rest of the hour, but since the obituary for the series has already been posted perhaps it's just as well not to bother.

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  180. Re:Don't get me wrong: I sampled it before I judge by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    I was about to suggest that you just watch the first 10 or 15 minutes (not counting commercials) and then decide if it's worth watching the rest of the hour, but since the obituary for the series has already been posted perhaps it's just as well not to bother.

    Well, you seem to have really enjoyed it...
    I won't take any extraordinary steps to watch it, but if I ever have the chace to, I'll think of you and give it a chance. Maybe if I'm drunk it'll be allright ;-)

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  181. Live Action Series by harborpirate · · Score: 1

    "One will be a full 3D animation series (with 30-minute episodes) of the recent Cartoon Network Clone Wars shorts, and the other a live-action series, that will be set in the time between Episodes III and IV, but won't feature the main characters."

    You misspelled "an unmitigated disaster".

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  182. Re:Don't get me wrong: I sampled it before I judge by mink · · Score: 1

    If for some reason you happen upon episodes from season 4, just skip the first two (if you see WWII america, or Nazis thats them) and enjoy what shuld have been a good series.

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  183. Re: The Hutts by Abreu · · Score: 1

    As a third example, imagine what would happen if we transplanted "The Sopranos" into the Star Wars universe -- we have "The Hutts".

    Somehow I dont imagine Jabba talking to a shrink about problems with his mother...

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