Maybe you're offended by the way he put it, but his point is valid. As far as 'anecdotes' go, what do you think all of these social (ahem) "science" theories are based on? A lot of fucking anecdotes that's what. A lot of "the facts don't support that claim" statements that are based on biased "meta-studies" that are in turn based on bullshit. The academics entrenched in our universities have created a vast framework that rivals Scientology, all of it *designed* to justify their own continued existence.
The biggest problem with this entire landscape is that it is NOT a bottom up revolutionary effort to change our society. It is a top-down social engineering effort driven by people in POWER. The rest of us live in the real world where men and women are different, have different preferences and different priorities in life. And MOST of us are okay with that.
Nope, you got it wrong. "Women are not paid less if they are doing the same jobs and spending the same time doing them as men do, " -- is NOT demonstrably false.
The underlying statistics show that any differences are insignificant when all factors are accounted for. It's just the truth, sorry if it doesn't help validate your mission to find injustice in the United States.
Handicapping the job market to eliminate differences in assertiveness, aggression, negotiating abilities, et al is what? Socialist? I personally don't care, but call it what it is. The bottom line is, if women on average are not on par with men in these areas then they are not EQUAL. Handicapping the system to make them equal is a kind of socialism.
I remember not caring about sound at all before PA. It just worked, and I never had to fuck with it. I also remember PA being forced on me 3 years before it should have been, and fighting to keep it out of my life the entire time. PA was completely unnecessary , there were already BETTER solutions available.
The people who are in favor of systemd are all internet posers. IRL everyone is against it. My personal experience anyway. Well, I work in data centers and not on a laptop at starbucks, so maybe I really am the minority.
"Automatic mounting at boot and on other system events is handled by systemd"
It refuses to boot when there is not a valid reason to halt the boot process. It is one of many design flaws in systemd. These problems are REAL and affect REAL people.
Moreover, the bullshit forced dependency and other less than honorable methods that got systemd forced onto the entire fucking planet is a part of this issue that VERY relevant and MATTERS.
You're fucking liars, manipulators, and propagandists, the lot of you. And that, ALL BY ITSELF, is reason enough to reject systemd and POS/Linux
Dude, there isn't *anyone* who doesn't understand the technical 'loophole' you are discussing. If you'd like to learn more about honest discourse, or at least mask you're obvious disingenuous tactics please sign up for a 12 step program at the end of which you just might realize just how fucking transparent you are.
Hey, there is no one outside of your cult that will ever buy in to the idea that monsters like Elliot Rogers are somehow the product of the Patriarchy. So just shut the fuck up ok?
Also, you are not beta, omega, mangina , white knight or whatever. You're just weak, in all around, gender neutral kind of way.
The shell is never going to be irrelevant (except for idiots) and no one is worried that the month they spent learning bash is wasted now. Seriously your post has got to be the dumbest thing I've heard or read in this whole debate. Seriously, you think 20 year unix->linux veterans are daunted by the idea of "learning systemd"? Christ boy, think about it, these are people that have had to become overnight experts on some thing, like dozens of times, and they still do it on a regular basis.
People that are older, smarter, and wiser than YOU realize that the basic concept of systemd is just fucked.
Are you one of those kids that thinks knowing Puppet is a skill?
omg you're right! if the txt files that can be read by a thousand tools are actually binary then all these complaints about journald are unfounded ! Yay!
Everyone I know that is either (1)uninterested in the systemd debate, or (2) actually in favor of systemd is (3) a completely incompetent hack in most areas that (4) have mostly bad ideas generally.
The perspective that thought NetworkManager / Avahi should be a default 'on' in a server install is so completely fucked up that it shouldn't be trusted on any topic.
No you're wrong. We *already* know shell scripting, and if you want to be a sysadmin or work in ops you *must* know shell scripting. Using systemd doesn't make the 'must know shell scripting' requirement go away.
*Everyone* I know in this industry is anti-systemd.
It is heresy to even suggest that there are biology driven gender specific behaviors. Everything bad in the world is because boys are socialized incorrectly. Don't worry though, social science ( nee studies ) professors are retooling our schools as we speak!
No evidence required. If you are making the reverse claim, that women are just as interested in math and physics as men, then evidence is required.
IOW: Men and Women are different biologically. Doesn't mean we can't socialize men into wearing skirts, but it DOES mean we cannnot *socialize* men into having the same ability to empathize that women have. This has been accepted as fact since before the first beer was brewed. The extraordinary claim is nurture, not nature and so far all I've seen is giant leaps of logic and circular reasoning to back up that claim. Most of the nature crowd just keeps repeating that their ideology is "well grounded in science" as if we will all accept it eventually. Oh, and write blogs intended to discredit actual "I don't have an agenda" science. When they're cornered in debate with an actual intelligent person they fall back on "well, that's not relevant here" bullshit.
The fact that they get so furious when you don't believe with them is like a big "I joined a cult" sign.
The foreign subsidiary being a P.O. box in a country that doesn't tax them.
It's a corruption. They get loopholes that allow them to get out of taxes as long as their money stays overseas, but then every 10 years or so we have a "tax holiday".
Get this into your head: The fucking kernel is the fucking kernel alright? It is one fucking thing. Yes, people refer to it as a "monolithic kernel" to contrast with a "microkernel" but , it is one fucking thing. Got it? Next time someone complains about the monolithic design of systemd and you feel the words "but the kernel..." welling up in your throat, just slap yourself until you start to remember words like "context" ok?
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Maybe you're offended by the way he put it, but his point is valid. As far as 'anecdotes' go, what do you think all of these social (ahem) "science" theories are based on? A lot of fucking anecdotes that's what. A lot of "the facts don't support that claim" statements that are based on biased "meta-studies" that are in turn based on bullshit. The academics entrenched in our universities have created a vast framework that rivals Scientology, all of it *designed* to justify their own continued existence.
The biggest problem with this entire landscape is that it is NOT a bottom up revolutionary effort to change our society. It is a top-down social engineering effort driven by people in POWER. The rest of us live in the real world where men and women are different, have different preferences and different priorities in life. And MOST of us are okay with that.
Nope, you got it wrong.
"Women are not paid less if they are doing the same jobs and spending the same time doing them as men do, " -- is NOT demonstrably false.
The underlying statistics show that any differences are insignificant when all factors are accounted for. It's just the truth, sorry if it doesn't help validate your mission to find injustice in the United States.
Handicapping the job market to eliminate differences in assertiveness, aggression, negotiating abilities, et al is what? Socialist? I personally don't care, but call it what it is. The bottom line is, if women on average are not on par with men in these areas then they are not EQUAL. Handicapping the system to make them equal is a kind of socialism.
I remember not caring about sound at all before PA. It just worked, and I never had to fuck with it. I also remember PA being forced on me 3 years before it should have been, and fighting to keep it out of my life the entire time. PA was completely unnecessary , there were already BETTER solutions available.
The people who are in favor of systemd are all internet posers. IRL everyone is against it. My personal experience anyway. Well, I work in data centers and not on a laptop at starbucks, so maybe I really am the minority.
Systemd won all the hipsters who think Gnome devs make good decisions. The working sys admins are still on the other side of the room, admiring BSD.
My platform, and the 130 developers that code for it, are moving to Slackware when Jessie comes out. Fuck'em.
"Automatic mounting at boot and on other system events is handled by systemd"
It refuses to boot when there is not a valid reason to halt the boot process. It is one of many design flaws in systemd. These problems are REAL and affect REAL people.
Moreover, the bullshit forced dependency and other less than honorable methods that got systemd forced onto the entire fucking planet is a part of this issue that VERY relevant and MATTERS.
You're fucking liars, manipulators, and propagandists, the lot of you. And that, ALL BY ITSELF, is reason enough to reject systemd and POS/Linux
Dude, there isn't *anyone* who doesn't understand the technical 'loophole' you are discussing. If you'd like to learn more about honest discourse, or at least mask you're obvious disingenuous tactics please sign up for a 12 step program at the end of which you just might realize just how fucking transparent you are.
Flat out lie. Not an embellishment or a subjective opinion or any other bullshit. YOU are a fucking liar.
http://movie-sounds.org/war-mo...
Hey, there is no one outside of your cult that will ever buy in to the idea that monsters like Elliot Rogers are somehow the product of the Patriarchy. So just shut the fuck up ok? Also, you are not beta, omega, mangina , white knight or whatever. You're just weak, in all around, gender neutral kind of way.
You keep saying that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Did you just say Linux is a culture of broken unreliable systems? What and now you and Poettering are here to save us?
The shell is never going to be irrelevant (except for idiots) and no one is worried that the month they spent learning bash is wasted now. Seriously your post has got to be the dumbest thing I've heard or read in this whole debate. Seriously, you think 20 year unix->linux veterans are daunted by the idea of "learning systemd"? Christ boy, think about it, these are people that have had to become overnight experts on some thing, like dozens of times, and they still do it on a regular basis.
People that are older, smarter, and wiser than YOU realize that the basic concept of systemd is just fucked.
Are you one of those kids that thinks knowing Puppet is a skill?
omg you're right! if the txt files that can be read by a thousand tools are actually binary then all these complaints about journald are unfounded ! Yay!
lol
Bullshit.
Everyone I know that is either (1)uninterested in the systemd debate, or (2) actually in favor of systemd is (3) a completely incompetent hack in most areas that (4) have mostly bad ideas generally.
The perspective that thought NetworkManager / Avahi should be a default 'on' in a server install is so completely fucked up that it shouldn't be trusted on any topic.
I prefer to call it Poettering Operating System/Linux
Well said! Competent people with the authority to make their own choices DON'T CHOOSE RHEL.
No you're wrong. We *already* know shell scripting, and if you want to be a sysadmin or work in ops you *must* know shell scripting. Using systemd doesn't make the 'must know shell scripting' requirement go away.
*Everyone* I know in this industry is anti-systemd.
It is heresy to even suggest that there are biology driven gender specific behaviors. Everything bad in the world is because boys are socialized incorrectly. Don't worry though, social science ( nee studies ) professors are retooling our schools as we speak!
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
No evidence required. If you are making the reverse claim, that women are just as interested in math and physics as men, then evidence is required.
IOW:
Men and Women are different biologically. Doesn't mean we can't socialize men into wearing skirts, but it DOES mean we cannnot *socialize* men into having the same ability to empathize that women have. This has been accepted as fact since before the first beer was brewed. The extraordinary claim is nurture, not nature and so far all I've seen is giant leaps of logic and circular reasoning to back up that claim. Most of the nature crowd just keeps repeating that their ideology is "well grounded in science" as if we will all accept it eventually. Oh, and write blogs intended to discredit actual "I don't have an agenda" science. When they're cornered in debate with an actual intelligent person they fall back on "well, that's not relevant here" bullshit.
The fact that they get so furious when you don't believe with them is like a big "I joined a cult" sign.
The foreign subsidiary being a P.O. box in a country that doesn't tax them.
It's a corruption. They get loopholes that allow them to get out of taxes as long as their money stays overseas, but then every 10 years or so we have a "tax holiday".
They belong in jail.
That pat answer again? Apples and Oranges...
Get this into your head: The fucking kernel is the fucking kernel alright? It is one fucking thing. Yes, people refer to it as a "monolithic kernel" to contrast with a "microkernel" but , it is one fucking thing. Got it? Next time someone complains about the monolithic design of systemd and you feel the words "but the kernel..." welling up in your throat, just slap yourself until you start to remember words like "context" ok?