This is a CRIME in and of itself, and MUST be stopped! My uncle had a warrant for a traffic ticket he forgot about once. He called my mother for bail so he could get out and deal with the ticket and warrant. That 10 minute call, cost my mother 300$. Its robbery. Simple as that. A dollars worth of Phone call, in town, for 300x that amount... Only thieves and CRIMINALS do such things!
After the first time I had a "Teamster" tell me that I had to pay them or I couldn't use the wheels on the dolly to load my equipment into the convention center, I stopped giving a Sh|t about the "Teamsters" LoL
Ok, so now that you have clarified, it appears that I am mis-speaking. I intended to state that the "Stars" should go back to the times of a "song for a meal" I completely understand the stage hand, and the sound guy, and the makeup peoples plight, and that those are hard jobs. But for some goon to sit in a contract negotiation and state that you can't have his "face" or his "name" attached to your project unless you fork over this many millions.... That IS pathetic. Ok, so does that clarify my point a bit?
You entire argument, still does not excuse the fact that far more important people to the every day real life needs of human beings, get paid peanuts compared to these entertainers. they have become GREEDY. To the extreme. Until they can do what they do and expect a normal living wage, we see them as cry babies that earn far too much money. No amount of opinion posting will change that:-)
At the end of the day... Can you eat an Album or movie ticket? Can you Live in them? Can you Drive them to work? Can you Power a home with them? Then they are functionally useless. They are WANT items. Not NEED items. Try swinging a pickaxe for 12 hours a day, or doing body work in a metal box in the heat all day, or picking fruit. Fact is that these entertainers are WAAAAAAAAY overpaid. And there are MANY more people in the world working FAR harder, making MORE impact on the earth (Farmers Feeding us, Engineers building our world, Doctors Keeping us Alive...) and STILL the entertainers now make more then all of them COMBINED. This is truly backwards from how it should be. Natural selection being sidelined, was the worst thing that ever happened to mankind.
Minus the facts that cattle don't butcher themselves, nor cook themselves, nor serve themselves... Nor do Chickens, or Pigs, or Lambs.... Trees don't cut themselves down, nor do they mill themselves into boards, or drive nails into themselves and stack themselves into neat geometric piles for us to live in. The Steel in the earth does not make itself into a car. The Iron does not magically mold itself into an engine block... WORK IS LIFE. Or you starve or freeze... Fact. If these entertainers didn't have the little guy, they would have no food, no homes to live in, no shiny stones to wear, no pretty cars to drive, no shoes on their feet. These people are about as important to the earth as global warming itself. They are the WORST of consumers in 99% of cases. With very few giving a rosy fuk about the average person, other than how many albums or tickets they buy per year. The whole natural man BS is just that. Your kind of Utopia is currently a fantasy. As production of food, clothing, medicine, housing, plumbing, sanitation and etc, are not automatic to such a degree to allow for this yet. Far from it actually. Hundreds of years or more.
Thats how it used to be... You entertained, and were well fed and regularly boarded. Now, we adorn you with gold and diamonds, and allow you rob us blind for every song, every movie, and every music video. Every second off the night and day. All while greater Men and Women do the actual WORK of society. Many of whom do jobs FAR more important than the task of entertaining the masses. (Maintaining a power reactor, monitoring the environment, servicing a commercial airplane...) Though these people all make FAR LESS than you all do. Though we continually hear you all whine and complain about how poor you all are... Its pathetic. Seriously. To the point that I have boycotted the movies entirely, and have not purchased any music in about 20 years. As I am certain others have. Get a Grip Hollywood... You cannot fly around in a private jet that drinks $10,000 an hour in fuel, and tell us all to be more frugal, friendly to the envirnment and not to clip your overpriced "auto-tune fabricated", over/under acted, CRAP from the interwebs... Yours Truly, the People who Feed and Clothed you for the past 3500+ years...
Whatever helps you sleep better bub, Its a good thing your liberal fantasy is not my reality:-)
Your weakness is showing... Better tuck that in... LoL!
You Defend really hard for what should be a bullet proof position according to you... And you can go look up facebooks COLLUSION with terrorism for yourself. I'm not LMGTFY... You Talk like a punk. And Act like one too. Pathetic.
EVERY Person, and EVERY Business, that this will do damage to. Its their tool, POORLY secured, that caused this ENTIRE MESS! If they had been sitting there catching terrorists, like we paid them to do, rather than designing malware to perform black ops with, we wouldn't be having this little "Chat" LoL!
You missed the part where I said that other methods should be used. DRM is a poor "Lock" and always has been. That is what happens when you only read one sentence in and start trolling...
DRM and Copy Protection are useless against the greatest hacking minds of the internet. Its pointless to spend money on these technologies. There are other ways to protect content and insulate profits. Ways that are far more effective. The Steam approach of LightDRM has worked better than most others, and even Kid-Gloving Infringers has had moderate success. Bugging the game, or gimping the difficulties or weapons has also been very effective for some studios. DRM is intrusive to the people who BUY the game, and typically does NOT interfere with the hacker community at large, who will just strip off the DRM and play the game with a much more streamlined experience than most DRM providers can typically offer. DRM, or at least the current DRM approach, is dead. New methods should be investigated and tested. We all know that these people deserve to be paid for their work. DRM just makes everything cost more. A lose Lose for Devs and Gamers!
Everyone keeps saying that I am missing the point... I wish they would make that point so I can argue it in stead. Because it still seems like a slow down or an ebb and flow of the speed of our changing technologies, is being seen as some kind of road block or stopping point. That is the point I hear being made. If all the great minds of history thought like that, we would never have gotten where we are. We would still be afraid to sail off the edge of the Earth. Strong AI, and Even Superhuman AI, is an Eventuality. When the circumstances are right, its highly likely to happen. If for no other reason than man wishes it so much. We can reach this goal. Simulating ourselves with the ultimate power, the power of creation and invention, is the ultimate goal of many scientists. Men are dedicating entire lifetimes to solving this. Trust that at some point in the next 100 or so years, you are likely to shake hands with your new boss AI, or the AI that just moved in next door. But it wont be some 1000 years into the future. This transition will take place much sooner. Our understanding of the precision of movement and how much we have advanced it in just the past 10-20 years, should be your first example of this playing out in the real world. 20 years ago, a automaton could not navigate a room with only 3 moving objects without hitting them, in under 30 hours... We are still moving faster than many care to admit. Choosing to point out this or that limiting factor, but ignoring a plethora of other advancements that serve to parallel those fields and show us new directions. That is all I'm saying.
No, I actually did not miss the point. As no actual point was made. At least not any that you saw fit to back up with fact or source. Its mostly just conjecture. #1 The Reason we drive 55-65MPH cars is not because we cannot build faster commercial grade cars that could withstand long term operation at higher speeds... Its because people cannot be trusted to operate them safely at those speeds. Also, you reach the limits of the physics the human body can tolerate, long before you would reach the speeds our current technology can tolerate. As a Physicist (LOL) you should know this. Safety is the primary factor though. #2 On the commercial air travel you AGAIN miss the mark... The ONLY reason supersonic Airliners are not in use today, is because of the damage they do to structures and airports. They are 100% technically viable otherwise, and travel 1400 or so mph. Pesky Air Resistance and Sound waves!:-P #3 Yes Experimental physics existed before the LHC... However, you were dealing with experiments that were looking at indirect factors to again strengthen "theory". The Direct Observable particles, didn't come until the first particle accelerator came online. Then, and ONLY then, could we formulate experiments that allowed us to DIRECTLY observe the particles in nature we knew we should find in certain circumstances. (You should DEFINITELY know this as a Physicist! LoL) It is not just our understanding of the details... Its called researching additional information and discovery, directly observable evidence, and cold hard facts... But feel free to show me all of your wonderful sources there Anon, love to see you actually bring something to the table that might just educate someone. It would be a change from what you have had to offer so far.:-D
This is a CRIME in and of itself, and MUST be stopped! My uncle had a warrant for a traffic ticket he forgot about once. He called my mother for bail so he could get out and deal with the ticket and warrant. That 10 minute call, cost my mother 300$. Its robbery. Simple as that. A dollars worth of Phone call, in town, for 300x that amount... Only thieves and CRIMINALS do such things!
Wow, you need some help with primary logic amigo... Your is mucho bad. :-)
After the first time I had a "Teamster" tell me that I had to pay them or I couldn't use the wheels on the dolly to load my equipment into the convention center, I stopped giving a Sh|t about the "Teamsters" LoL
Ok, so now that you have clarified, it appears that I am mis-speaking. I intended to state that the "Stars" should go back to the times of a "song for a meal" I completely understand the stage hand, and the sound guy, and the makeup peoples plight, and that those are hard jobs. But for some goon to sit in a contract negotiation and state that you can't have his "face" or his "name" attached to your project unless you fork over this many millions.... That IS pathetic. Ok, so does that clarify my point a bit?
You entire argument, still does not excuse the fact that far more important people to the every day real life needs of human beings, get paid peanuts compared to these entertainers. they have become GREEDY. To the extreme. Until they can do what they do and expect a normal living wage, we see them as cry babies that earn far too much money. No amount of opinion posting will change that :-)
At the end of the day... Can you eat an Album or movie ticket? Can you Live in them? Can you Drive them to work? Can you Power a home with them? Then they are functionally useless. They are WANT items. Not NEED items. Try swinging a pickaxe for 12 hours a day, or doing body work in a metal box in the heat all day, or picking fruit. Fact is that these entertainers are WAAAAAAAAY overpaid. And there are MANY more people in the world working FAR harder, making MORE impact on the earth (Farmers Feeding us, Engineers building our world, Doctors Keeping us Alive...) and STILL the entertainers now make more then all of them COMBINED. This is truly backwards from how it should be. Natural selection being sidelined, was the worst thing that ever happened to mankind.
Minus the facts that cattle don't butcher themselves, nor cook themselves, nor serve themselves... Nor do Chickens, or Pigs, or Lambs.... Trees don't cut themselves down, nor do they mill themselves into boards, or drive nails into themselves and stack themselves into neat geometric piles for us to live in. The Steel in the earth does not make itself into a car. The Iron does not magically mold itself into an engine block... WORK IS LIFE. Or you starve or freeze... Fact. If these entertainers didn't have the little guy, they would have no food, no homes to live in, no shiny stones to wear, no pretty cars to drive, no shoes on their feet. These people are about as important to the earth as global warming itself. They are the WORST of consumers in 99% of cases. With very few giving a rosy fuk about the average person, other than how many albums or tickets they buy per year. The whole natural man BS is just that. Your kind of Utopia is currently a fantasy. As production of food, clothing, medicine, housing, plumbing, sanitation and etc, are not automatic to such a degree to allow for this yet. Far from it actually. Hundreds of years or more.
Thats how it used to be... You entertained, and were well fed and regularly boarded. Now, we adorn you with gold and diamonds, and allow you rob us blind for every song, every movie, and every music video. Every second off the night and day. All while greater Men and Women do the actual WORK of society. Many of whom do jobs FAR more important than the task of entertaining the masses. (Maintaining a power reactor, monitoring the environment, servicing a commercial airplane...) Though these people all make FAR LESS than you all do. Though we continually hear you all whine and complain about how poor you all are... Its pathetic. Seriously. To the point that I have boycotted the movies entirely, and have not purchased any music in about 20 years. As I am certain others have. Get a Grip Hollywood... You cannot fly around in a private jet that drinks $10,000 an hour in fuel, and tell us all to be more frugal, friendly to the envirnment and not to clip your overpriced "auto-tune fabricated", over/under acted, CRAP from the interwebs... Yours Truly, the People who Feed and Clothed you for the past 3500+ years...
Whatever helps you sleep better bub, Its a good thing your liberal fantasy is not my reality :-)
Your weakness is showing... Better tuck that in... LoL!
You Defend really hard for what should be a bullet proof position according to you... And you can go look up facebooks COLLUSION with terrorism for yourself. I'm not LMGTFY... You Talk like a punk. And Act like one too. Pathetic.
That must by why they never pull down all liberals death threats to conservatives... And why all those Jihad Accounts Never Get Banned...
The Majority of the world that doesn't buy their set top boxes from FACEBOOK, didn't care about this even a little bit... LOL!
Nah, nobody would DREAM of misusing THAT data or Technology... LoL!
You are about to get a lesson in the true meaning of the words "Customer Backlash" :-D
C_atastrophically I_gnorant A_ssholes...
EVERY Person, and EVERY Business, that this will do damage to. Its their tool, POORLY secured, that caused this ENTIRE MESS! If they had been sitting there catching terrorists, like we paid them to do, rather than designing malware to perform black ops with, we wouldn't be having this little "Chat" LoL!
In a district near you!
Of Reasons to Keep your families and business OUT OF CALI! Bankrupt this liberal nightmare of a state. All it cranks out are morons.
You missed the part where I said that other methods should be used. DRM is a poor "Lock" and always has been. That is what happens when you only read one sentence in and start trolling...
Its basically the same for movies and Other Content.
DRM and Copy Protection are useless against the greatest hacking minds of the internet. Its pointless to spend money on these technologies. There are other ways to protect content and insulate profits. Ways that are far more effective. The Steam approach of LightDRM has worked better than most others, and even Kid-Gloving Infringers has had moderate success. Bugging the game, or gimping the difficulties or weapons has also been very effective for some studios. DRM is intrusive to the people who BUY the game, and typically does NOT interfere with the hacker community at large, who will just strip off the DRM and play the game with a much more streamlined experience than most DRM providers can typically offer. DRM, or at least the current DRM approach, is dead. New methods should be investigated and tested. We all know that these people deserve to be paid for their work. DRM just makes everything cost more. A lose Lose for Devs and Gamers!
Incoming! LOL!
Far more Revenue! :-P
Everyone keeps saying that I am missing the point... I wish they would make that point so I can argue it in stead. Because it still seems like a slow down or an ebb and flow of the speed of our changing technologies, is being seen as some kind of road block or stopping point. That is the point I hear being made. If all the great minds of history thought like that, we would never have gotten where we are. We would still be afraid to sail off the edge of the Earth. Strong AI, and Even Superhuman AI, is an Eventuality. When the circumstances are right, its highly likely to happen. If for no other reason than man wishes it so much. We can reach this goal. Simulating ourselves with the ultimate power, the power of creation and invention, is the ultimate goal of many scientists. Men are dedicating entire lifetimes to solving this. Trust that at some point in the next 100 or so years, you are likely to shake hands with your new boss AI, or the AI that just moved in next door. But it wont be some 1000 years into the future. This transition will take place much sooner. Our understanding of the precision of movement and how much we have advanced it in just the past 10-20 years, should be your first example of this playing out in the real world. 20 years ago, a automaton could not navigate a room with only 3 moving objects without hitting them, in under 30 hours... We are still moving faster than many care to admit. Choosing to point out this or that limiting factor, but ignoring a plethora of other advancements that serve to parallel those fields and show us new directions. That is all I'm saying.
No, I actually did not miss the point. As no actual point was made. At least not any that you saw fit to back up with fact or source. Its mostly just conjecture. #1 The Reason we drive 55-65MPH cars is not because we cannot build faster commercial grade cars that could withstand long term operation at higher speeds... Its because people cannot be trusted to operate them safely at those speeds. Also, you reach the limits of the physics the human body can tolerate, long before you would reach the speeds our current technology can tolerate. As a Physicist (LOL) you should know this. Safety is the primary factor though. #2 On the commercial air travel you AGAIN miss the mark... The ONLY reason supersonic Airliners are not in use today, is because of the damage they do to structures and airports. They are 100% technically viable otherwise, and travel 1400 or so mph. Pesky Air Resistance and Sound waves! :-P #3 Yes Experimental physics existed before the LHC... However, you were dealing with experiments that were looking at indirect factors to again strengthen "theory". The Direct Observable particles, didn't come until the first particle accelerator came online. Then, and ONLY then, could we formulate experiments that allowed us to DIRECTLY observe the particles in nature we knew we should find in certain circumstances. (You should DEFINITELY know this as a Physicist! LoL) It is not just our understanding of the details... Its called researching additional information and discovery, directly observable evidence, and cold hard facts... But feel free to show me all of your wonderful sources there Anon, love to see you actually bring something to the table that might just educate someone. It would be a change from what you have had to offer so far. :-D