That is why you get those sorts of clients to always use email, so you have a paper record. That way, months later, when something breaks in eg. Firefox and they email you demanding a fix, you can say, "sure, I can do that for $100,000.00" (or some outrageous amount of money). When they freak out about the price, you send them the original email that said specifically they didn't want to support eg. Firefox, but that you will discount the price to $99,999.95 (or some other only slightly less outrageous amount of money) for them.
A bad business practice in my opinion since it basically amounts to extortion, but hey, I'm just a translator.:)
That would be Norton GoBack. (Formerly Roxio GoBack. Formerly Adaptec GoBack. Formerly Wildfile GoBack.) GoBack is a piece of shit. Ghost, on the other hand, is actually a quite decent disk cloning software.
21 is not the age at which the brain has completed developing. Even if it were, there is no compelling medical reason to prevent the consumption of alcohol for people under the age of 21. Originally, when the law limiting the consumption of alcoholic beverages to people 21 or older was enacted, the voting age was also 21. States tried to reduce the drinking age during the 70s and 80s, but since the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1984, a state not enforcing the minimum drinking age of 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment. Overview of Underage Drinking Policy in the United States.
Thanks for the correction. Too bad Slashdot doesn't have editors that, err, fact check..or grammar check.. or spell check.. so much could be avoided if they'd actually do the job that editors are supposed to do.
For the eighty billionth time, MySQL runs and will continue to run fine on every distro, you just can't buy enterprise support from MySQL AB unless you are using Red Hat or SuSE.
You have to set the Power Management option to "Minimal Power Management" in Windows in order for CnQ to work. Why this isn't done manually by the drivers when they're installed is beyond me.
I've had quite the opposite experience with most of my equipment. Unlike Windows, most of what I've needed with Linux has worked out of the box with no need to install 3rd party drivers. I've installed Ubuntu on 4 desktops and 2 laptops and Debian on another 3 desktops and have had only minor issues with a couple of these systems related to networking equipment (the fault of these issues lying squarely with Broadcom for not providing drivers nor documentation for their wireless chipsets). It is really a case of YMMV, where some people (like me) have a perfect or near-perfect result and others (like you) have an extremely difficult time. However, compared to where the Linux scene was just 2 short years ago (where there was no distribution that I could get to install completely out of the box and run reliably on any equipment I tried it on), things have improved astronomically and I only see more improvement ahead.
Try the latest WebKit nightly build. I think that the version of Safari that's going to ship with 10.5 is going to be a lot better, based on the changes I see.
The best part about running the tests on IE7 is that if one of the tests fails to load (as it did a couple times for me), instead of popping up the retry/cancel window, it will display an information bar stating that a scripted window has been blocked. You have to click on the information bar, "temporarily allow" the window, and then...RELOAD THE PAGE. The confirmation never appears unless you start everything over again. What a fucking stupid idea.
If you'd bother to read the Opera page you linked to you'd see this:
XSLT, XPath, and XSL-FO
Opera has near-complete support of XSLT 1.0 and XPath 1.0
Now let's see. IE can't handle application/xhtml+xml. Its JavaScript implementation doesn't support any of the namespaced DOM functions (createElementNS, getAttributeNS, etc.) making it pretty much useless for any sort of dynamic handling of XML that contains multiple namespaces. Hell, IE7 fails 38% of the W3C's DOM test suite.
Obviously, MoFo has omitted several rather important things from their browser product, one of them happening to be the ability to load external entities. But to say that Opera doesn't support XSLT is just blatantly wrong, and while I certainly don't advocate working around broken browser behaviour, it's certainly something that's done a lot for IE -- I bet you could do it for Firefox's flaw, too, if you spent less time complaining and more time working.
Well, all I can tell you is that IE is the only browser that doesn't allow it. Konqueror? Works fine. Safari? Here, too. Firefox? Yep. Opera? No problem.
While I agree that missing the Events module is definitely the BIGGEST problem, it's certainly not the ONLY problem, which is mostly what I was trying to get out. Also, I'm a fucktard and didn't preview my comment before posting (it's the only time I've ever not previewed a comment on Slashdot, I swear;)) and Slashcode wiped out a bunch of what I was saying.
What I MEANT to write was: * Tables that are created dynamically will not appear unless elements are added to <tbody> -- in other words, using DOM to write <table><tr><td>content</td><tr><table> does not display anything, even though <tbody> is optional. * getElementsByTagName('object').item(0).getElements ByTagName('param') returns EVERY <param> IN THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, not just ones under the requested object. Yikes!
As far as the navigator.plugins is concerned, it's definitely possible that it's a fragment of the browser wars, but that would be rather weird (except as an intentional attempt to sabotage Netscape Plugins API in order to push ActiveX -- something I find much more plausible than "fixing Netscape-only sites"). An empty nagivator.plugins would be just as easy to detect as one that didn't exist, and if something depended on it being there so that it could find a plugin, the site still wouldn't work in IE.
As an aside, between my last post and now, I ran some JavaScript unit tests from the W3C Compatibility Test Suite.
Opera 9.02 I tried about 20 times to get Opera to complete this test, and it would constantly fail to load files and Retry did nothing. Oh, well. I'd guesstimate the failures are probably around 2-3%.
I'd say there's a pretty serious fucking problem when nearly 38% of DOM Core 1 functionality is BROKEN.
Thanks Jerf. Yeah, Slashcode ate my tags. (Durhur, preview? What's that? x|) I'm currently in the middle of writing a response..just waiting for some JS unit tests to complete..
There is a painful lack of support for not only the DOM 2 Events, but also for several other significant parts of the DOM specification.
Some issues I've personally encountered, several of which I hit on a regular basis:
* Namespaces are completely absent from IE's DOM implementation (createElementNS, getAttributeNS, etc. functions simply do not exist). * Prototyping of DOM elements is impossible without using proprietary HTC behaviours. * Tables that are created dynamically will not appear unless elements are added to -- in other words, using DOM to write content does not display anything, even though is optional. * importNode? Nope. Doesn't exist. * getElementsByTagName('object').item(0).getElements ByTagName('param') returns EVERY IN THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, not just ones under the requested object. Yikes!
And one other thing the lovely DOM Level 0...
* navigator.plugins exists but is always empty. What's up with that? Either don't have the attribute at all or populate it properly, for fuck's sake.
The worst thing is that as far as I can tell, there has been NO improvement in the JavaScript engine between IE6 and IE7 (except that the Microsoft Script Debugger doesn't work anymore. Thanks, guys! Not everyone has or wants to buy and install Microsoft Office just to debug in your broken browser.)
IE7's zoom is worse than useless. When you zoom, it repositions elements atop other elements, making the page completely screwed up. I'd rather have a text-resizing zoom only rather than the broken piece of shit that is IE7's zoom feature.
I installed Ubuntu this Monday. I really had to hammer at it to get the programs I wanted installed and get settings the way I wanted them. Linux still has a way to go before the average Joe will be able to pick it up and use it... A lot of what you're trying to do are things that "average Joe" is NOT going to do, like trying to install the Absolute Latest Software. Most people don't need that.
My first problem resulted from Ubuntu's installer assuming my system clock was set to GMT and not asking me. When I corrected the clock +4 hours from the LiveCD's meddling and installed Ubuntu, it adjusted my clock +4 more! I didn't notice until I had worked with Ubuntu off my hard drive for a bit. When I set the clock back -4... I was locked out of SUDO! This restriction would have to be lifted or at least EXPLAINED to the average user who is not going to understand why he must wait 4 hours to perform any administrative actions. Not to mention the fix is not intuitive... I had to adjust my clock +4 again, run sudo -k to kill my sudo timestamp, and finally set my clock correctly. Then sudo worked again. No way the average user could have done that. I can't say I can ever had this clock problem, though it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. When I installed, it asked me what timezone I was in and configured it appropriately. What were you using to reset the clock that had you typing things into the command-line with sudo? Also, I've never experienced nor heard of anyone experiencing sudo "not working". What exactly happened when it was "not working"? Can you reproduce the issue or submit a bug report about it?
Also the lack of up-to-date precompiled packages (Wine package is still back at 0.9.9, ScummVM 0.8.0) for my favorite programs was annoying enough for me to have to search out more recent binaries... Does "average Joe" need the latest versions? Anyway, you can almost certainly find unofficial repositories that provide binary.debs if the official software creator doesn't.
now I really like the Linux idea of putting program files in/bin (which is also in the path env... ooh Linux has Windows beat on this!), settings in/etc, user settings in ~, etc etc. But most precompiled binaries aren't like this! They just throw everything in one directory... so if I want these "distributed" files, I need to compile from source and make install (right? well that was my solution >.>). Absolutely incorrect. What "precompiled binaries" were you trying to use? Everything that is in the official apt repositories follows quite strict guidelines for file location and naming and most software packages that provide.debs also follow the naming guidelines. You really need to stop trying to install everything from source! You're fighting against the system and you're going to break it completely if you keep it up. Default./configure will have things install to/usr/local. Also, think: before you install, do you REALLY need that software to be installed for all users?
Also Linux will need out-of-the-box support for Windows apps. This is critical for it's success, I believe, as if you tell a Windows user he can migrate to Linux without having to give up any of his favorite programs while gaining all the advantages of Linux... well I think that would help alot.
Currently Wine seems OK, but it still has some problems with XP profiles (it tries to use hardcoded 9x profile paths... I can't figure out how to override them) I don't think that increasing compatibility with Windows applications is a bad idea. But, what are "XP profiles" going to do for Wine, or for you? Each fake Windows "installation" is unique to each user already and you can create as many fake Windows "installs" as you want using the WINEPREFIX environment variable.
MDI dialogs (they don't work quite right, fooling around with them crashes wine) You'll have to be more speci
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A bad business practice in my opinion since it basically amounts to extortion, but hey, I'm just a translator.
That would be Norton GoBack. (Formerly Roxio GoBack. Formerly Adaptec GoBack. Formerly Wildfile GoBack.) GoBack is a piece of shit. Ghost, on the other hand, is actually a quite decent disk cloning software.
21 is not the age at which the brain has completed developing. Even if it were, there is no compelling medical reason to prevent the consumption of alcohol for people under the age of 21. Originally, when the law limiting the consumption of alcoholic beverages to people 21 or older was enacted, the voting age was also 21. States tried to reduce the drinking age during the 70s and 80s, but since the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1984, a state not enforcing the minimum drinking age of 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment. Overview of Underage Drinking Policy in the United States.
Er. nvidia-glx is the NVIDIA binary driver, NOT the open source nv driver.
Good thing you don't need to use the 3rd party installers, then!
NVIDIA:
apt-get install nvidia-glx
ATI:
apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
-1 Wrong
Thanks for the correction. Too bad Slashdot doesn't have editors that, err, fact check..or grammar check.. or spell check.. so much could be avoided if they'd actually do the job that editors are supposed to do.
For the eighty billionth time, MySQL runs and will continue to run fine on every distro, you just can't buy enterprise support from MySQL AB unless you are using Red Hat or SuSE .
Deep Thought was the computer that came up with the answer to the question, and designed Earth to figure out what the question was. It was not Earth.
You have to set the Power Management option to "Minimal Power Management" in Windows in order for CnQ to work. Why this isn't done manually by the drivers when they're installed is beyond me.
Cheers,
I've had quite the opposite experience with most of my equipment. Unlike Windows, most of what I've needed with Linux has worked out of the box with no need to install 3rd party drivers. I've installed Ubuntu on 4 desktops and 2 laptops and Debian on another 3 desktops and have had only minor issues with a couple of these systems related to networking equipment (the fault of these issues lying squarely with Broadcom for not providing drivers nor documentation for their wireless chipsets). It is really a case of YMMV, where some people (like me) have a perfect or near-perfect result and others (like you) have an extremely difficult time. However, compared to where the Linux scene was just 2 short years ago (where there was no distribution that I could get to install completely out of the box and run reliably on any equipment I tried it on), things have improved astronomically and I only see more improvement ahead.
The latest version of ffdshow supports both Theora and X.264 (AVC1). X.264 needs to be manually enabled, but it is there, and it works great.
Try the latest WebKit nightly build. I think that the version of Safari that's going to ship with 10.5 is going to be a lot better, based on the changes I see.
The best part about running the tests on IE7 is that if one of the tests fails to load (as it did a couple times for me), instead of popping up the retry/cancel window, it will display an information bar stating that a scripted window has been blocked. You have to click on the information bar, "temporarily allow" the window, and then...RELOAD THE PAGE. The confirmation never appears unless you start everything over again. What a fucking stupid idea.
Now let's see. IE can't handle application/xhtml+xml. Its JavaScript implementation doesn't support any of the namespaced DOM functions (createElementNS, getAttributeNS, etc.) making it pretty much useless for any sort of dynamic handling of XML that contains multiple namespaces. Hell, IE7 fails 38% of the W3C's DOM test suite.
Obviously, MoFo has omitted several rather important things from their browser product, one of them happening to be the ability to load external entities. But to say that Opera doesn't support XSLT is just blatantly wrong, and while I certainly don't advocate working around broken browser behaviour, it's certainly something that's done a lot for IE -- I bet you could do it for Firefox's flaw, too, if you spent less time complaining and more time working.
Except that Outlook Express has traditionally been bundled with the IE installer.
Well, all I can tell you is that IE is the only browser that doesn't allow it. Konqueror? Works fine. Safari? Here, too. Firefox? Yep. Opera? No problem.
While I agree that missing the Events module is definitely the BIGGEST problem, it's certainly not the ONLY problem, which is mostly what I was trying to get out. Also, I'm a fucktard and didn't preview my comment before posting (it's the only time I've ever not previewed a comment on Slashdot, I swear ;)) and Slashcode wiped out a bunch of what I was saying.
s ByTagName('param') returns EVERY <param> IN THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, not just ones under the requested object. Yikes!
What I MEANT to write was:
* Tables that are created dynamically will not appear unless elements are added to <tbody> -- in other words, using DOM to write <table><tr><td>content</td><tr><table> does not display anything, even though <tbody> is optional.
* getElementsByTagName('object').item(0).getElement
As far as the navigator.plugins is concerned, it's definitely possible that it's a fragment of the browser wars, but that would be rather weird (except as an intentional attempt to sabotage Netscape Plugins API in order to push ActiveX -- something I find much more plausible than "fixing Netscape-only sites"). An empty nagivator.plugins would be just as easy to detect as one that didn't exist, and if something depended on it being there so that it could find a plugin, the site still wouldn't work in IE.
As an aside, between my last post and now, I ran some JavaScript unit tests from the W3C Compatibility Test Suite.
http://www.w3.org/2003/02/06-dom-support.html
DOM Conformance Test Suites
==========
DOM Core 1
----------
Internet Explorer 7 (37.95% failure)
Tests: 224
Errors: 4
Failures: 85
Opera 9.02 (11.34% failure)
Tests: 238
Errors: 12
Failures: 27
Firefox 1.5.0.7 (5.88% failure)
Tests: 238
Errors: 15
Failures: 14
==========
DOM Core 2
----------
Internet Explorer 7 (45.45% failure)
Tests: 11
Errors: 2
Failures: 5
Opera 9.02 (36.36% failure)
Tests: 11
Errors: 0
Failures: 4
Firefox 1.5.0.7 (18.18% failure)
Tests: 11
Errors: 0
Failures: 2
==========
DOM HTML 2
----------
Internet Explorer 7 (8.47% failure)
Tests: 685
Errors: 16
Failures: 58
Firefox 1.5.0.7 (1.31% failure)
Tests: 685
Errors: 0
Failures: 9
Opera 9.02
I tried about 20 times to get Opera to
complete this test, and it would constantly
fail to load files and Retry did nothing.
Oh, well. I'd guesstimate the failures are
probably around 2-3%.
I'd say there's a pretty serious fucking problem when nearly 38% of DOM Core 1 functionality is BROKEN.
Thanks Jerf. Yeah, Slashcode ate my tags. (Durhur, preview? What's that? x|) I'm currently in the middle of writing a response..just waiting for some JS unit tests to complete..
There is a painful lack of support for not only the DOM 2 Events, but also for several other significant parts of the DOM specification.
s ByTagName('param') returns EVERY IN THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, not just ones under the requested object. Yikes!
Some issues I've personally encountered, several of which I hit on a regular basis:
* Namespaces are completely absent from IE's DOM implementation (createElementNS, getAttributeNS, etc. functions simply do not exist).
* Prototyping of DOM elements is impossible without using proprietary HTC behaviours.
* Tables that are created dynamically will not appear unless elements are added to -- in other words, using DOM to write content does not display anything, even though is optional.
* importNode? Nope. Doesn't exist.
* getElementsByTagName('object').item(0).getElement
And one other thing the lovely DOM Level 0...
* navigator.plugins exists but is always empty. What's up with that? Either don't have the attribute at all or populate it properly, for fuck's sake.
The worst thing is that as far as I can tell, there has been NO improvement in the JavaScript engine between IE6 and IE7 (except that the Microsoft Script Debugger doesn't work anymore. Thanks, guys! Not everyone has or wants to buy and install Microsoft Office just to debug in your broken browser.)
You mean the anonymous article submitter (who is almost certainly an employee for this company)?
Oh no my friend, I assure you, it is a series of tubes. At least you didn't say it was a truck -- that would be VERY wrong.
IE7's zoom is worse than useless. When you zoom, it repositions elements atop other elements, making the page completely screwed up. I'd rather have a text-resizing zoom only rather than the broken piece of shit that is IE7's zoom feature.
WOW. MINDBLOWING.
I installed Ubuntu this Monday. I really had to hammer at it to get the programs I wanted installed and get settings the way I wanted them. Linux still has a way to go before the average Joe will be able to pick it up and use it...
.debs if the official software creator doesn't.
/bin (which is also in the path env... ooh Linux has Windows beat on this!), settings in /etc, user settings in ~, etc etc. But most precompiled binaries aren't like this! They just throw everything in one directory... so if I want these "distributed" files, I need to compile from source and make install (right? well that was my solution >.>). .debs also follow the naming guidelines. You really need to stop trying to install everything from source! You're fighting against the system and you're going to break it completely if you keep it up. Default ./configure will have things install to /usr/local. Also, think: before you install, do you REALLY need that software to be installed for all users?
A lot of what you're trying to do are things that "average Joe" is NOT going to do, like trying to install the Absolute Latest Software. Most people don't need that.
My first problem resulted from Ubuntu's installer assuming my system clock was set to GMT and not asking me. When I corrected the clock +4 hours from the LiveCD's meddling and installed Ubuntu, it adjusted my clock +4 more! I didn't notice until I had worked with Ubuntu off my hard drive for a bit. When I set the clock back -4... I was locked out of SUDO! This restriction would have to be lifted or at least EXPLAINED to the average user who is not going to understand why he must wait 4 hours to perform any administrative actions. Not to mention the fix is not intuitive... I had to adjust my clock +4 again, run sudo -k to kill my sudo timestamp, and finally set my clock correctly. Then sudo worked again. No way the average user could have done that.
I can't say I can ever had this clock problem, though it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. When I installed, it asked me what timezone I was in and configured it appropriately. What were you using to reset the clock that had you typing things into the command-line with sudo? Also, I've never experienced nor heard of anyone experiencing sudo "not working". What exactly happened when it was "not working"? Can you reproduce the issue or submit a bug report about it?
Also the lack of up-to-date precompiled packages (Wine package is still back at 0.9.9, ScummVM 0.8.0) for my favorite programs was annoying enough for me to have to search out more recent binaries...
Does "average Joe" need the latest versions? Anyway, you can almost certainly find unofficial repositories that provide binary
now I really like the Linux idea of putting program files in
Absolutely incorrect. What "precompiled binaries" were you trying to use? Everything that is in the official apt repositories follows quite strict guidelines for file location and naming and most software packages that provide
Also Linux will need out-of-the-box support for Windows apps. This is critical for it's success, I believe, as if you tell a Windows user he can migrate to Linux without having to give up any of his favorite programs while gaining all the advantages of Linux... well I think that would help alot.
Currently Wine seems OK, but it still has some problems with XP profiles (it tries to use hardcoded 9x profile paths... I can't figure out how to override them)
I don't think that increasing compatibility with Windows applications is a bad idea. But, what are "XP profiles" going to do for Wine, or for you? Each fake Windows "installation" is unique to each user already and you can create as many fake Windows "installs" as you want using the WINEPREFIX environment variable.
MDI dialogs (they don't work quite right, fooling around with them crashes wine)
You'll have to be more speci
http://www.shaveeverywhere.com/
The person you're probably thinking of is Ben Edelman. A couple videos are here and here. Pretty interesting stuff.