I sure hope someone is ready with a Jabber plugin for Trillian when version 1.0 comes out. (which will allow plug-ins.....incidentally, their beta version of 1.0 -- which is under tight wraps but it leaked so it's not hard to find -- has a Slashdot plugin, which is kind of cool)
Trillian is in my opinion a much better way to have interoperability with the Yahoo, MSN, ICQ and AOL, than by using Jabber (trillian's interoperability is client side, jabber's is server side). Trillian works great and doesn't add an extra, unnecessary layer to communication with the non-Jabber people.
Still, I'd like to use Jabber as my "main" account on Trillian, if only it supported it. That would be the best of both worlds. Trillian's client is by far the best I have seen.
BTW, I'm told that version 1.0 will also run on linux and OSX.
Doesn't "faith" just mean believing something without any indication that it is true, without a shred of evidence, just because you choose to believe it? Why, because you want it to be true so badly? Because you were told from the time you were an infant that in this case its ok to think like that, while in every other case that's just considered ignorant?
Sorry, I just don't get it.
Until you can show me otherwise, faith is pretty much synonomous with ignorance.
Then again, I guess I shouldn't need to be shown otherwise. I should just have faith.
The only other option is use something like wxWindows which tries to present a single API that is platform independent but will use native widgets, though this approach has it own problems.
Care to elaborate on the problems? That seems like the way to go to me. Yes it would be challenging to not "lowest common denominator" it to death....challenging, but not impossible. In the end you would have the correct solution....a windows app that felt like a windows app, an OSX app that felt like an an OSX app, etc.
I'm failing to see the momentum behind Jabber. I've yet to meet anyone in the real world that uses it, yet I have plenty of people on all 4 of the other services on my list in Trillian.
Here's how to solve the problem. Instead of getting "all the world" to agree to switch to Jabber or something, all you've got to do is get the Trillian people and the Jabber people to come to an agreement, and provide us a smooth, painless transition to an open IM world.
First, the Jabber people should not direct their efforts at making full blown clients, and simply make a great plug-in client for Trillian (and anyone else who wants to use it). Jabber folks should also stop wasting so much of their time with trying to have their servers talk to non-Jabber protocols.....its quite obvious that having the client do it (a la Trillian) is a much better approach....it's more efficient, less awkward, it's just plain better.
Then Trillian should build in Jabber support via a plug in supplied by Jabber people, and encourage people to use it as the "Trillian native" protocol. Sure, you still have to register with the big four (yahoo/msn/aim/icq) while all your hold-out friends stay on the other services, no big deal. The important thing is to offer a painless transition to an open, decentralized system.
The Jabber plug in could be open source, and could be made so that any client (Trillian or any other) could hook into it, and Trillian can stay closed source. The plug in would have no UI, but simply implement an API.
The space.com article does link directly to an article called "Why Reality is a Gray Area in Astronomy" which explains such things.
I found this quote pretty stupid though: "Interestingly, all Hubble images are created with black-and-white cameras. Ones and zeros are sent to Earth. Color is dropped in later with the popular Photoshop program."
Especially the "ones and zeros" bit. That sort of implies that the images are true black and white, not even gray scale. But of course gray scale, as well as true color, can be represented with binary data.
If it is made using red, green and blue filters, and then the channels are reassembled, that is, in my opinion, true color. It is no different that what color film or video does. But if it really is just arbitrarily colored with photoshop, that's a whole different thing.
Actually, I was really referring to the "bronco riding" scenes
I don't see how one bad example (or rather, good example of bad CG) means that the whole technology is fundamentally flawed. Anyway, compare it to Luke and Han riding Tauntauns...now that was fake looking.
I agree about Anakin riding the beast was cheesy, but otherwise....it's getting better, and fast. I thought Yoda was amazingly realistic (well, maybe not the superball fight scene). I think it is rapidly approaching a time when you won't be able to tell if a character is real or CG. Certainly state of the art CG blows away stuff like Ray Harryhausen's stop motion stuff (as great as that was in its day). I am amazed at the realism of some of the animals on "walking with prehistoric beasts" on discovery channel (even though i'm sure their budget was pretty tight comparitively) and even at the realism of the guinea pig on the blockbuster commercials.
Computer technology simply moves at a rate way beyond costume technology. The is a limit to what you can do with costumes, and there really isn't with CG. (don't you get tired of all the star trek characters that just look like humans with makeup....why would all these beings from various planets have the same basic proportions as humans?)
Give it a couple more years, and I think you will start seeing CG characters that you just can't tell are CG.
I mean, I really like mozilla's page rendering and such, it's pretty fast and all that. I really really really want to get away from microsoft. I'm very impressed that they pulled off the hard stuff. But the only reason I stick with IE for most of my browsing is for two really simple things that mozilla refuses to offer as preferences (but IE did right the first time):
1) "New Navigator Window" as it is is utterly useless. If it did like IE, and opened a new window on the current page with the current history, it would be infinitely more useful than something that just emulates the icon on my desktop (opening a new browser at the default page, with no history). The power in forking the history is immense. Ok maybe an exaggeration but I use it many times a day and curse loudly when it is not there.
2) "View source" should go to the editor of your choice (notepad is just fine with me).
The utility of these two things is so obvious I can't believe they don't include them at least as an option. If there is a way to get this preference, I'd like to hear it, but I sure don't see it.
If people have been calling it ProPaint for 10 years, well, yeah, you probably just call it ProPaint. (anyway, a better analogy would be the engine = the kernel)
"Meant" by who? The guy who invented it? I'm sure he's long dead. Who cares what it was "meant" for. It probably wasn't meant to have a vcr or playstation hooked to it either. Big deal.
This is something that people elect to have in their homes. If it reports your viewing habits back, all that is doing is making your (implicit) opinion heard, so that they will make more shows to keep you happy. If you are paranoid about your privacy, don't get one. You probably shouldn't vote either, since it's none of the government's damn business what your political views are.
What about using it to get a bird to go exactly where you want it, and transmit back exactly where Saddam or Bin Laden or whoever is? It's a lot more stealth than one of those predator RC planes...you could probably get right in and look into a window, as long as you can make the transmitter small enough to be carried by the bird.
Geez, chill out. First, if it happens, it would be very unexpected by almost anyone (it came installed that way, the mic wasn't even attached, random words showing up....), so it could be a useful article.
However, probably the real reason the article is here is because most people find it pretty damn amusing that a store-bought computer in its default configuration would be trying to make sense of random electrical noise.
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If you read the article, it indicates that the picture is the exising design, not the new one:
Gateway also plans to streamline the design, making the Profile 4 look more like a stand-alone flat-panel monitor than the current model does. Gateway's older design places the processor, CD-RW (CD-rewritable) drive and other components directly behind the monitor, giving the Profile 3 a bulky profile when viewed sideways
Blaming it on the users (i.e. "human nature") is about as meaningless as blaming plane crashes on gravity. Or blaming crime on criminals, rather than saying "gee, maybe we need some police".
Sure, human nature is to be selfish and do what is best for oneself, without giving high priority to consequences to society as a whole. Evolution does not favor altruism -- except maybe in bees and such who don't reproduce directly. So people are going to pirate stuff if its easy enough gives enough benefit vs. paying for it.
If you don't want anarchy, you have to set up a system that takes human selfishness as a given, and still works. Seems to me the problem is yet to be solved.
Allocate $5 million a year (pocket change for them) for rewarding people who find security flaws. They can hire an independent 3rd party to manage the submittals and decide how to split up the money each year. Those who wish to collect have to go through a process of reporting the flaw that is official, and doesn't release it to the public before they have time to fix it and people have time to get the patch.
The key is having the 3rd party really be independent. Maybe elected by a committee or something. Somebody could figure out the details....but this shouldn't be hard to do in a way that MS's corporate interests are not causing a conflict.
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I sure hope someone is ready with a Jabber plugin for Trillian when version 1.0 comes out. (which will allow plug-ins.....incidentally, their beta version of 1.0 -- which is under tight wraps but it leaked so it's not hard to find -- has a Slashdot plugin, which is kind of cool)
Trillian is in my opinion a much better way to have interoperability with the Yahoo, MSN, ICQ and AOL, than by using Jabber (trillian's interoperability is client side, jabber's is server side). Trillian works great and doesn't add an extra, unnecessary layer to communication with the non-Jabber people.
Still, I'd like to use Jabber as my "main" account on Trillian, if only it supported it. That would be the best of both worlds. Trillian's client is by far the best I have seen.
BTW, I'm told that version 1.0 will also run on linux and OSX.
So what if parents rent the movie, then fast forwards through the parts they don't want the kids to see? Should that be illegal?
If not, what's the difference?
Doesn't "faith" just mean believing something without any indication that it is true, without a shred of evidence, just because you choose to believe it? Why, because you want it to be true so badly? Because you were told from the time you were an infant that in this case its ok to think like that, while in every other case that's just considered ignorant?
Sorry, I just don't get it.
Until you can show me otherwise, faith is pretty much synonomous with ignorance.
Then again, I guess I shouldn't need to be shown otherwise. I should just have faith.
Arrrrgghh.
Well....probably not really. Actually I guess they do a whole lot of good. But slashdot is more fun when people have differing opinions.
I've never had problems with Trillian. Except for a while with AIM connectivity, but they circumvented that and it works flawlessly for me.
I'm failing to see the momentum behind Jabber. I've yet to meet anyone in the real world that uses it, yet I have plenty of people on all 4 of the other services on my list in Trillian.
Here's how to solve the problem. Instead of getting "all the world" to agree to switch to Jabber or something, all you've got to do is get the Trillian people and the Jabber people to come to an agreement, and provide us a smooth, painless transition to an open IM world.
First, the Jabber people should not direct their efforts at making full blown clients, and simply make a great plug-in client for Trillian (and anyone else who wants to use it). Jabber folks should also stop wasting so much of their time with trying to have their servers talk to non-Jabber protocols.....its quite obvious that having the client do it (a la Trillian) is a much better approach....it's more efficient, less awkward, it's just plain better.
Then Trillian should build in Jabber support via a plug in supplied by Jabber people, and encourage people to use it as the "Trillian native" protocol. Sure, you still have to register with the big four (yahoo/msn/aim/icq) while all your hold-out friends stay on the other services, no big deal. The important thing is to offer a painless transition to an open, decentralized system.
The Jabber plug in could be open source, and could be made so that any client (Trillian or any other) could hook into it, and Trillian can stay closed source. The plug in would have no UI, but simply implement an API.
Maglev trains may use linear motors, but that doesn't make linear motors maglev. There's nothing even high tech about linear motors.
...why do You guys capitalize the word "You"?
That's a wierd way of saying that it can be molded to have an edge as sharp as glass. I don't think glass is normally sharpened per se.
The space.com article does link directly to an article called "Why Reality is a Gray Area in Astronomy" which explains such things.
I found this quote pretty stupid though: "Interestingly, all Hubble images are created with black-and-white cameras. Ones and zeros are sent to Earth. Color is dropped in later with the popular Photoshop program."
Especially the "ones and zeros" bit. That sort of implies that the images are true black and white, not even gray scale. But of course gray scale, as well as true color, can be represented with binary data.
If it is made using red, green and blue filters, and then the channels are reassembled, that is, in my opinion, true color. It is no different that what color film or video does. But if it really is just arbitrarily colored with photoshop, that's a whole different thing.
I don't see how one bad example (or rather, good example of bad CG) means that the whole technology is fundamentally flawed. Anyway, compare it to Luke and Han riding Tauntauns...now that was fake looking.
I agree about Anakin riding the beast was cheesy, but otherwise....it's getting better, and fast. I thought Yoda was amazingly realistic (well, maybe not the superball fight scene). I think it is rapidly approaching a time when you won't be able to tell if a character is real or CG. Certainly state of the art CG blows away stuff like Ray Harryhausen's stop motion stuff (as great as that was in its day). I am amazed at the realism of some of the animals on "walking with prehistoric beasts" on discovery channel (even though i'm sure their budget was pretty tight comparitively) and even at the realism of the guinea pig on the blockbuster commercials.
Computer technology simply moves at a rate way beyond costume technology. The is a limit to what you can do with costumes, and there really isn't with CG. (don't you get tired of all the star trek characters that just look like humans with makeup....why would all these beings from various planets have the same basic proportions as humans?)
Give it a couple more years, and I think you will start seeing CG characters that you just can't tell are CG.
I mean, I really like mozilla's page rendering and such, it's pretty fast and all that. I really really really want to get away from microsoft. I'm very impressed that they pulled off the hard stuff. But the only reason I stick with IE for most of my browsing is for two really simple things that mozilla refuses to offer as preferences (but IE did right the first time):
1) "New Navigator Window" as it is is utterly useless. If it did like IE, and opened a new window on the current page with the current history, it would be infinitely more useful than something that just emulates the icon on my desktop (opening a new browser at the default page, with no history). The power in forking the history is immense. Ok maybe an exaggeration but I use it many times a day and curse loudly when it is not there.
2) "View source" should go to the editor of your choice (notepad is just fine with me).
The utility of these two things is so obvious I can't believe they don't include them at least as an option. If there is a way to get this preference, I'd like to hear it, but I sure don't see it.
If people have been calling it ProPaint for 10 years, well, yeah, you probably just call it ProPaint. (anyway, a better analogy would be the engine = the kernel)
"Meant" by who? The guy who invented it? I'm sure he's long dead. Who cares what it was "meant" for. It probably wasn't meant to have a vcr or playstation hooked to it either. Big deal.
This is something that people elect to have in their homes. If it reports your viewing habits back, all that is doing is making your (implicit) opinion heard, so that they will make more shows to keep you happy. If you are paranoid about your privacy, don't get one. You probably shouldn't vote either, since it's none of the government's damn business what your political views are.
what makes you think there is any shortage of human suicide bombers?
Anyone here ever seen a junkie (and what they will do to get a fix)?
What about using it to get a bird to go exactly where you want it, and transmit back exactly where Saddam or Bin Laden or whoever is? It's a lot more stealth than one of those predator RC planes...you could probably get right in and look into a window, as long as you can make the transmitter small enough to be carried by the bird.
I took it to mean that communism results in lack of choice....not that the lack of choice is what defines communism.
Geez, chill out. First, if it happens, it would be very unexpected by almost anyone (it came installed that way, the mic wasn't even attached, random words showing up....), so it could be a useful article.
However, probably the real reason the article is here is because most people find it pretty damn amusing that a store-bought computer in its default configuration would be trying to make sense of random electrical noise.
Blaming it on the users (i.e. "human nature") is about as meaningless as blaming plane crashes on gravity. Or blaming crime on criminals, rather than saying "gee, maybe we need some police".
Sure, human nature is to be selfish and do what is best for oneself, without giving high priority to consequences to society as a whole. Evolution does not favor altruism -- except maybe in bees and such who don't reproduce directly. So people are going to pirate stuff if its easy enough gives enough benefit vs. paying for it.
If you don't want anarchy, you have to set up a system that takes human selfishness as a given, and still works. Seems to me the problem is yet to be solved.
What they should do is:
Allocate $5 million a year (pocket change for them) for rewarding people who find security flaws. They can hire an independent 3rd party to manage the submittals and decide how to split up the money each year. Those who wish to collect have to go through a process of reporting the flaw that is official, and doesn't release it to the public before they have time to fix it and people have time to get the patch.
The key is having the 3rd party really be independent. Maybe elected by a committee or something. Somebody could figure out the details....but this shouldn't be hard to do in a way that MS's corporate interests are not causing a conflict.