The Fry's Electronics in Phoenix, Arizona (the one on Thunderbird, 'cause there's two)... has a shelf for linux games (all Loki). It used to be completely full, with every loki title. However, last time I was there, I noticed a severe lack of linux games (only a copy or two of Quake III and maybe Heroes 3). Must not be restocking them.:(
If you look on this page, you will find a list of Debian vendors, some of whom allow you to donate directly to debian when you purchase. (Or something like that - i've never done it). This is similar to buying a boxed set; you buy a CD from one of Debian's recommended vendors, and they will donate to Debian for you.
What I've heard is that Be could no longer develop BeOS for G3 and G4 machines for legal reasons, and the booting issue was almost a moot point. I don't know the specifics of the legality.
I have suggested that BeOS use a linux bootloader and then it would boot fine on the G3 and G4 machines, however this suggestion is always countered with the statement that "linux booting on G3 and G4 macs is illegal".
I still do not know whether BeOS or Linux on a G3 or G4 is legal or not. If I can't believe the BeOS people... then I will trust Be Inc. even less than I do now.:)
What I've heard (and I am fairly "inside" when it comes to Be rumors:)) is that Be could no longer develop for Apple for legal reasons, and the booting issue was almost a moot point. I don't know the specifics of the legality.
I have suggested that BeOS use a linux bootloader and then it would boot fine on the G3 and G4 machines, however this suggestion is always countered with the statement that "linux booting on G3 and G4 macs is illegal".
I still do not know whether BeOS or Linux on a G3 or G4 is legal or not. If I can't believe the BeOS people... then I will trust Be Inc. even less than I do now.:)
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Web browsers for the Atari ST? That would be amazing considering the machine comes with the following specs:
- M68000 CPU
- 1 MB RAM
- No hard drive
- One available parallel (i think) port
- One available hard drive port
- One floppy drive
There were of course add-ons you could buy. Like a really slow modem (the port is not a standard PC type port, so forget any new hardware). Or you could buy their 10 MB hard drive...:)
The machine really seems useless except to play the old (but still fun) Atari ST games. My dad sold our old ST a few years ago for about $40.
It certainly does not have the power to function as _my computer_ even if I could browse the web on it. Can I convert DivX movies (or DVD's) to VideoCD's? Can I store all of my CD's in a central location, for easy access and huge playlists? Can I even run my own Perl apps on it? (I doubt a port for Perl exists...)
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After watching Microsoft profit off of bad software and business decisions that screwed people over again and again, I have come to the following conclusion:
Darwinism does not apply to Capitalism.
The best product, unfortunately, is usually not the one that survives. Rather, it's the one that has the best marketing.
On the topic of using old computers, I don't think it's because they're hard to maintain. I don't know what you mean by that - my Atari ST needs no maintainance. I don't use it for one simple reason - I have absolutely no use for it. Everything I do on my PC would be completely impossible with that little amount of computing power.
This article (especially considering the source) may change quite a few people's opinions about Microsoft, and give them a new open attitude towards alternative operating systems.
You might be surprised by how easily influenced people are by "regular media" like newspapers and television.
Besides, calling it "non-fiction" means that it's _real_. "Fiction" is the made up stuff. Is that what you meant?
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Actually, from what I can tell, Microsoft has stopped using their year-based (or even number-based) schemes for version numbers.
Their latest fad appears to be a series of letters that sound important, just like the "SX" and "LX" versions of cars make them sound better.
You have "Windows XP" and "Office XP".
What will it be two years from now?
Windows SL?
Windows RX?
Windows HI?
Windows YU?
Windows PA?
Heh... I don't know about Microsoft overrunning alternate OSes, but they could just do what Apple did to BeOS.
Which is to say, they could change the way every computer boots, so that it is impossible to make an alternate operating system for it other than Windows.
I know this would be a lot harder for Microsoft to do than Apple, because Microsoft does not have control of the hardware. However, I would not put it beyond their capabilities...
Scary thought, isn't it.:)
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Interesting point. However... would you still run your old machine with 1 MB of RAM now? I doubt it.
Considering that, why assume you'll still be running the machine you have now, 20 years from now?
I think that attitude limits the possibilities inherent in computing; it's not just that you're doing things faster.
The best reason to have a newer computer is because you can do a lot more. (I know I sound like a computer ad). You can do video editing, sound compression, and other machine-intensive things with modern computers that you could not have imagined 20 years ago.
My point is, there will probably be something 20 years from now that requires a new-generation machine. And this is probably something you will want to do. And this is definitely something I have not thought of yet.:)
This has already happened...
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One thing I noticed is that the whole "homogeny" thing is based around the fact that Windows is the only operating system.
Isn't that pretty much true right now (and for the past 5 years)?
I can find tons of "normal people" who think that Windows IS what runs a computer. By definition.
The homogeny only needs to be extended to appliances, like toasters and even traffic lights, to be _exactly_ as scary in real life as the author intended!
This may seem like a far-off non-threat, but the possibility exists for real danger when every machine on Earth is running the same OS.
My first attempt at linux was Debian, then in a rather immature state. I tried to put it on my auxiliary box (a 486) from about 6 floppies.:)
I ended up at that point with a bash prompt, after a successful install, reboot, and login... and I had no clue what to do.
So I gave up on linux, until I tried RedHat 5.0 for the first time (which was my next linux attempt). Lo and behold, I was a hooked linux user from then on (and have stuck to Slackware since around the time of RedHat 6.0).:)
I personally don't use RedHat (being a seasoned linux user, I have been using Slackware exclusively for a few years) but I have installed it on occasion, and find it to be relatively easy to use in its newest incarnations.
That is what I would suggest for any new linux user, especially coming from Windows.
MPlayer handles command-line systems just fine (no X needed) as long as you have a framebuffer graphics driver. This is easy to do if you have a modern distro and kernel, and a relatively common graphics card (you can even do it with VESA, but it'll be slow). MPlayer is also extremely good for DivX files, showing about 2x speed improvement over Windows-based players with the right fine-tuning.:)
I submitted an article (or two) about DivX on Linux, and specifically MPlayer, over the past few weeks. They were both rejected.
There is MPlayer which is capable of playing DVD's...
But the one that I have had the most success with is the VideoLan Client. Despite the name, it is essentially a DVD player for many OS'es, with a built-in CSS decryptor. I have used it very successfully.
It's a sad day for the internet when what used to be a communication medium becomes nothing more than a dick size contest.
Of course, Slashdot has been like that for years...
I, for one, refuse to participate in the karma game. It would be wasting my time, and your bandwidth. Personally, I'll stick to posting comments when I actually have something to say, and not just to increase my karma.
Well, in that case you're considering a developer a "user" of the kernel, and that is not the usage of "user" that I originally intended. I was thinking more along the lines of "home user who does not know what compiling is".
Kinda makes you wonder how his posts start at score 2, doesn't it?
If you don't believe me, look at the moderation done to your third example.
Note that comments are posted by default at 1 if you're a logged-in user, and 0 if you're an AC.
In order to get a +1 bonus beyond that as a logged-in user, you must get a huge amount of karma. Which is hard if you're a troll.:)
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Apparently not... they just filed for Chapter 11. :(
:)
Not quite related to the context of your question, but... that's the answer. I think.
IANAL, and I also don't work for Loki.
it's been at least 75 years (more or less, I'm a bit lost on patent laws)
:P
Well, actually... I think it's "more" in this case. It's been way more than 75 years since anyone's made Damascus Steel.
Umm... is this "+1, funny" or "-1, offtopic"? :)
The Fry's Electronics in Phoenix, Arizona (the one on Thunderbird, 'cause there's two)... has a shelf for linux games (all Loki). It used to be completely full, with every loki title. However, last time I was there, I noticed a severe lack of linux games (only a copy or two of Quake III and maybe Heroes 3). Must not be restocking them. :(
If you look on this page, you will find a list of Debian vendors, some of whom allow you to donate directly to debian when you purchase. (Or something like that - i've never done it). This is similar to buying a boxed set; you buy a CD from one of Debian's recommended vendors, and they will donate to Debian for you.
What I've heard is that Be could no longer develop BeOS for G3 and G4 machines for legal reasons, and the booting issue was almost a moot point. I don't know the specifics of the legality.
:)
I have suggested that BeOS use a linux bootloader and then it would boot fine on the G3 and G4 machines, however this suggestion is always countered with the statement that "linux booting on G3 and G4 macs is illegal".
I still do not know whether BeOS or Linux on a G3 or G4 is legal or not. If I can't believe the BeOS people... then I will trust Be Inc. even less than I do now.
What I've heard (and I am fairly "inside" when it comes to Be rumors :)) is that Be could no longer develop for Apple for legal reasons, and the booting issue was almost a moot point. I don't know the specifics of the legality.
:)
I have suggested that BeOS use a linux bootloader and then it would boot fine on the G3 and G4 machines, however this suggestion is always countered with the statement that "linux booting on G3 and G4 macs is illegal".
I still do not know whether BeOS or Linux on a G3 or G4 is legal or not. If I can't believe the BeOS people... then I will trust Be Inc. even less than I do now.
Web browsers for the Atari ST? That would be amazing considering the machine comes with the following specs:
:)
- M68000 CPU
- 1 MB RAM
- No hard drive
- One available parallel (i think) port
- One available hard drive port
- One floppy drive
There were of course add-ons you could buy. Like a really slow modem (the port is not a standard PC type port, so forget any new hardware). Or you could buy their 10 MB hard drive...
The machine really seems useless except to play the old (but still fun) Atari ST games. My dad sold our old ST a few years ago for about $40.
It certainly does not have the power to function as _my computer_ even if I could browse the web on it. Can I convert DivX movies (or DVD's) to VideoCD's? Can I store all of my CD's in a central location, for easy access and huge playlists? Can I even run my own Perl apps on it? (I doubt a port for Perl exists...)
After watching Microsoft profit off of bad software and business decisions that screwed people over again and again, I have come to the following conclusion:
Darwinism does not apply to Capitalism.
The best product, unfortunately, is usually not the one that survives. Rather, it's the one that has the best marketing.
On the topic of using old computers, I don't think it's because they're hard to maintain. I don't know what you mean by that - my Atari ST needs no maintainance. I don't use it for one simple reason - I have absolutely no use for it. Everything I do on my PC would be completely impossible with that little amount of computing power.
I beg to differ.
This article (especially considering the source) may change quite a few people's opinions about Microsoft, and give them a new open attitude towards alternative operating systems.
You might be surprised by how easily influenced people are by "regular media" like newspapers and television.
Besides, calling it "non-fiction" means that it's _real_. "Fiction" is the made up stuff. Is that what you meant?
Actually, from what I can tell, Microsoft has stopped using their year-based (or even number-based) schemes for version numbers.
:)
Their latest fad appears to be a series of letters that sound important, just like the "SX" and "LX" versions of cars make them sound better.
You have "Windows XP" and "Office XP".
What will it be two years from now?
Windows SL?
Windows RX?
Windows HI?
Windows YU?
Windows PA?
Those are probably bad guesses.
Heh... I don't know about Microsoft overrunning alternate OSes, but they could just do what Apple did to BeOS.
:)
Which is to say, they could change the way every computer boots, so that it is impossible to make an alternate operating system for it other than Windows.
I know this would be a lot harder for Microsoft to do than Apple, because Microsoft does not have control of the hardware. However, I would not put it beyond their capabilities...
Scary thought, isn't it.
Interesting point. However... would you still run your old machine with 1 MB of RAM now? I doubt it.
:)
Considering that, why assume you'll still be running the machine you have now, 20 years from now?
I think that attitude limits the possibilities inherent in computing; it's not just that you're doing things faster.
The best reason to have a newer computer is because you can do a lot more. (I know I sound like a computer ad). You can do video editing, sound compression, and other machine-intensive things with modern computers that you could not have imagined 20 years ago.
My point is, there will probably be something 20 years from now that requires a new-generation machine. And this is probably something you will want to do. And this is definitely something I have not thought of yet.
One thing I noticed is that the whole "homogeny" thing is based around the fact that Windows is the only operating system.
Isn't that pretty much true right now (and for the past 5 years)?
I can find tons of "normal people" who think that Windows IS what runs a computer. By definition.
The homogeny only needs to be extended to appliances, like toasters and even traffic lights, to be _exactly_ as scary in real life as the author intended!
This may seem like a far-off non-threat, but the possibility exists for real danger when every machine on Earth is running the same OS.
D'oh! It makes for a much better pattern than mine, too! Aside from being more technically correct of course. :)
I was only remembering the Byrds' version, and couldn't think of who wrote the song.
Thanks for reminding me.
That's how I started out.
:)
:)
My first attempt at linux was Debian, then in a rather immature state. I tried to put it on my auxiliary box (a 486) from about 6 floppies.
I ended up at that point with a bash prompt, after a successful install, reboot, and login... and I had no clue what to do.
So I gave up on linux, until I tried RedHat 5.0 for the first time (which was my next linux attempt). Lo and behold, I was a hooked linux user from then on (and have stuck to Slackware since around the time of RedHat 6.0).
I personally don't use RedHat (being a seasoned linux user, I have been using Slackware exclusively for a few years) but I have installed it on occasion, and find it to be relatively easy to use in its newest incarnations.
That is what I would suggest for any new linux user, especially coming from Windows.
MPlayer handles command-line systems just fine (no X needed) as long as you have a framebuffer graphics driver. This is easy to do if you have a modern distro and kernel, and a relatively common graphics card (you can even do it with VESA, but it'll be slow). MPlayer is also extremely good for DivX files, showing about 2x speed improvement over Windows-based players with the right fine-tuning. :)
I submitted an article (or two) about DivX on Linux, and specifically MPlayer, over the past few weeks. They were both rejected.
I bet that Zock the Quake God could beat him.
:)
Check out UserFriendly comic strips if you don't get the reference.
It's called communication.
:)
Although by your logic, _this_ post is a waste of time, as well as your question.
Unless you think I'm karma whoring. I'm not. Do you see me posting top-level? Moderators rarely even see my posts.
Try some other programs - I also have not had luck with Xine.
There is the Linux Video Project which produces a DVD player for linux.
There is MPlayer which is capable of playing DVD's...
But the one that I have had the most success with is the VideoLan Client. Despite the name, it is essentially a DVD player for many OS'es, with a built-in CSS decryptor. I have used it very successfully.
Umm... moderators, are you daft?
This is not a troll, it's a completely valid point. Here is an example of a troll:
"Get your hot grits! Hot Grits! Natalie Portman!"
Now here is what you should have moderated this as:
"Score 3, Insightful".
Any questions?
It's a sad day for the internet when what used to be a communication medium becomes nothing more than a dick size contest.
Of course, Slashdot has been like that for years...
I, for one, refuse to participate in the karma game. It would be wasting my time, and your bandwidth. Personally, I'll stick to posting comments when I actually have something to say, and not just to increase my karma.
Well, in that case you're considering a developer a "user" of the kernel, and that is not the usage of "user" that I originally intended. I was thinking more along the lines of "home user who does not know what compiling is".
:)
But you are completely correct.
Kinda makes you wonder how his posts start at score 2, doesn't it?
:)
If you don't believe me, look at the moderation done to your third example.
Note that comments are posted by default at 1 if you're a logged-in user, and 0 if you're an AC. In order to get a +1 bonus beyond that as a logged-in user, you must get a huge amount of karma. Which is hard if you're a troll.