Well, actually, that's not quite correct.
As for SSH, the founder of SSH corporation was Tatu Ylönen. In 1995. See ssh.com. (I do realize that he probably didn't invent the technology, but this is all I could find...)
As for VPN's, we all know that Al Gore invented that to go with the internet.:P
Well, I am a recent 15-year-old (I'm actually 16, almost 17 now, but...) I do think there is one thing about the internet that tends to create that "hacker's itch" where none existed.
I have always felt that so-called hacker's itch, and i've been using computers since my dad showed me his Atari ST 1040 before I could read (and I was drawing on it, too!). I was always interested in learning about computers, but something solidified it for me.
Everything changed since I've started using the 'net... it's the fact that I can communicate with others, all around the world, for free. It's like the Ham radio's of the stone age (which my dad talked on religiously when he was my age).
This communication factor is what inspires me, and many others, to do what we do.
By the way... "what we do" is write code. Lots.:)
-- Reverius, JAPHD (just another perl hacker, dammit)
I (typically for a/.er) just read the first bit and then skimmed through the rest, and thought that I got "the gist of it".
When I read your post, I went back and read the last paragraph.
This one really through me for a loop! When the hell did Katz get so cynical?? (Not about media... we all know about that... I meant about kids - the plane crashing metaphor)
Lay off the sauce Katz, especially before you post stories. You're scaring the kids.;)
Unless it's just that I'm reading way too deep into his metaphor. Which I have a tendancy to do these days while plowing through Virginia Woolf's "To the Lighthouse".
I've had a Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDT for about 4 years now...:)
It runs linux perfectly. I couldn't ask for better. Except I do want a new laptop. This thing is getting kinda old... and KDE is slow as molasses on it. (And before I start a flame war, so is gnome);)
Pentium 120, 32 MB RAM, TFT screen. Nice machine, especially considering it's last me this long.
I just set up a page-generator to give some statistics for my logs. Here it is.
I thought I might use it at work tomorrow, but you guys can take a look at it.
My perl script is also up there, if you guys want it. It looks at the logs, and separates out Code Red 1 and Code Red 2 hits into different files.
It also gathers a tiny bit of statistics, like # of code red 1 hits, # of code red 2 hits, and # of hits total.
The cool thing about my perl script is that it generates a new "index.html" for you every 30 seconds with updated statistics on it. (not like that was hard to do though.;)
Only ran in grey at 640x480?? Wow... that means one of two things.
1) Your graphics card is so old that it does not support the VESA standard (wow!)
2) Your graphics card is so new that it is not supported by BeOS yet...
or the most likely one,
3) You did not know how to turn on VESA display modes.:)
I have used many graphics cards in BeOS that _would_ be displaying in 640x480 gray, except that I used them in VESA mode for 1024x768 at 16 bit color.;)
well, stuff like sampled sounds and the like (the "ingredients" of techno and electronic music) are very fundamentally different from music notation or tablatures (which would be pretty much equivalent to tracker files).
As far as "random mechanical noise", it's far from it. Have you any clue about the creative process involved in making techno music, or are you speaking purely from a biased-listener standpoint? Techno music is as legitimate as any other musical form, and is "composed" just like any other music (more so than many forms of music). As a multi-instrumental musician of many styles other than techno (including rock, metal, blues, and jazz) I would say that techno is as much real music as any other style.
If you care to debate me on that, at least have a viewpoint other than the same tired anti-rap, or anti-country, or anti-rock perspective of "I don't like how it sounds, so it's not real music".
Open Source?? What does open source have to do with mp3's? Did I miss something?
Open Source is a collective term for a bunch of software licenses that provide source code of the programs. Also the term for the community and ideological beliefs surrounding such licensed software.
MP3 music really has nothing to do with this.
Except for the fact that the occasional song you find on the internet is released under an adapted GPL-like (although I doubt OSF approved) music license.
On another note, I do have an idea for open sourced _techno_ music. Release all the tracker files, keyboard configurations and sythesizer setups, and sound samples that you use. That's really the _source_ of the music, much like source code to a c program, right?:)
I don't know about "ready for prime time"... but not-so-recent betas of BONE and OpenGL are certainly usable. They've been beta-testing for _years_ now with this stuff. (At least it seems like years). I've been using BeOS for a couple of years, since R5 was first given away for free (the first week, actually)... and I have one thing to say about why Be Inc. has been going down the tubes.
#1) They had a sales and marketing department?? What sales? What marketing? Did these people actually _do_ anything!?
I had never heard of BeOS until I first saw it talked about on Slashdot (no marketing there)... and I know very few people who've actually bought BeOS (no sales);)
#2) Well, assuming in the first place that they had users, they certainly did not act like it. The company has been extremely secretive about when their next release is, and what's going on with BeOS and such. From what I gather, though, it wasn't always like that.
I've talked to BeOS developers about this, and seen many a canned reply on the subject, and they all seem to say the same thing. There is too much licensed technology, they can't open source it.
I have _directly_ suggested to Be employees that they open source the non-licensed parts, but they will have none of it. From what I can tell, they see it as suicide (like they can do much better with a closed-source OS).
A lot of people feel that Be _should_ commit suicide commercially at this point (well, maybe not this point, but two months ago when people dismissed the buyout rumors).
I have an idea... why not use their precious DMCA against them?:)
If you write something illegal (say, a paper on how to decrypt DVD's) and then encrypt it with your own _very simple_ encryption... (like switching all the letters "a" and "z" in the paper)...
then if they try to prosecute you for telling people how to decrypt DVD's, then you tell them they have commited an illegal act by 'decrypting' your paper!! =)
Actually, this is how many rippers have the capability of working... and I would guess that they would rip copy-protected cd's fine.
There is an analog path, and a digital path, from the cdrom drive to the computer. The analog one is the one used to _play_ the audio cd's, and works much like a standalone cd player. The digital one is the one that this copy-prevention scheme is supposed to block.
Using a ripper such as MusicMatch Jukebox (3.0 - from about 3 years ago) that does analog ripping (there are probably many more, I just happen to remember this one doing it) - it should be very easy to legally 'circumvent' the copy-prevention.
All you would be doing is playing the cd, and having your software automatically record it at the same time.
Now here's a story that "regular people" can understand:
The New York Times
Russian hacker picks digital lock, gets arrested
Russian hacker Dmitry Skylarov created a lock-picking system and used it to break into Adobe Systems. He also sold the lock-picking system and marketed in the United States.
He was arrested when police chased him to a lock-picking theives' guild. They proceeded to arrest the entire crowd, and fumigate the building.
Thankfully, the law that allowed the arrest was the DMCA. Without that law protecting people's locks, no lock would be safe!
Your comment makes me wonder whether you actually read through the entire article, or just saw "JonKatz" at the top and decided to post without reading.
The entire point is that journalists (or those acting with journalistic intent) are not supposed to go to jail for this sort of thing. The DMCA is the only reason that he did.
Let me sum it up for you:
Weapons in Airport = OK
Figure out how encryption works = BAD
Who's going to control it, assuming it's controlled? And more importantly... are their interests compatible with yours or mine?
Assuming that a commercial net did exist, and that those who controlled it were fairly benign dictators (did not censor stuff too much)... lets consider one thing.
On a commercial net, can I:
- send an e-mail to anybody I want to
- be guaranteed that nobody is going to read it on the way there (i.e. allowed to use encryption)
- put up my own web site
- list myself in a search engine
And can I do any of those things for free? Aside from a monthly fee for net access, I (and many others) are not willing to pay for content or to put up our own content.
Slashdot Mirror
Well, actually, that's not quite correct. :P
As for SSH, the founder of SSH corporation was Tatu Ylönen. In 1995. See ssh.com. (I do realize that he probably didn't invent the technology, but this is all I could find...)
As for VPN's, we all know that Al Gore invented that to go with the internet.
Well, I am a recent 15-year-old (I'm actually 16, almost 17 now, but...) I do think there is one thing about the internet that tends to create that "hacker's itch" where none existed.
:)
I have always felt that so-called hacker's itch, and i've been using computers since my dad showed me his Atari ST 1040 before I could read (and I was drawing on it, too!). I was always interested in learning about computers, but something solidified it for me.
Everything changed since I've started using the 'net... it's the fact that I can communicate with others, all around the world, for free. It's like the Ham radio's of the stone age (which my dad talked on religiously when he was my age).
This communication factor is what inspires me, and many others, to do what we do.
By the way... "what we do" is write code. Lots.
-- Reverius, JAPHD (just another perl hacker, dammit)
I get SprintBroadBand Wireless.
:)
:(
It's about $40 a month, available throughout the U.S. (although limited to certain areas).
I get about 1 - 3 megabits reliably during the day, and at night, it's up to 4 or 5. I'm amazed at how fast the download speeds are.
They've never once done anything bad to me, like blocking ports or anything. Although their terms of service suck, they don't seem to enforce them.
Only problem is, b/c it's wireless, ping times suck (lots of latency) and the upload speed is limited to about 30k.
Whoa!!
/.er) just read the first bit and then skimmed through the rest, and thought that I got "the gist of it".
;)
I (typically for a
When I read your post, I went back and read the last paragraph.
This one really through me for a loop! When the hell did Katz get so cynical?? (Not about media... we all know about that... I meant about kids - the plane crashing metaphor)
Lay off the sauce Katz, especially before you post stories. You're scaring the kids.
Unless it's just that I'm reading way too deep into his metaphor. Which I have a tendancy to do these days while plowing through Virginia Woolf's "To the Lighthouse".
I've had a Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDT for about 4 years now... :)
;)
It runs linux perfectly. I couldn't ask for better. Except I do want a new laptop. This thing is getting kinda old... and KDE is slow as molasses on it. (And before I start a flame war, so is gnome)
Pentium 120, 32 MB RAM, TFT screen. Nice machine, especially considering it's last me this long.
I just set up a page-generator to give some statistics for my logs. Here it is.
;)
I thought I might use it at work tomorrow, but you guys can take a look at it.
My perl script is also up there, if you guys want it. It looks at the logs, and separates out Code Red 1 and Code Red 2 hits into different files. It also gathers a tiny bit of statistics, like # of code red 1 hits, # of code red 2 hits, and # of hits total.
The cool thing about my perl script is that it generates a new "index.html" for you every 30 seconds with updated statistics on it. (not like that was hard to do though.
What?
I'm still getting Code Red 1 attempts.
They're as strong as they ever were. Which isn't that strong.
That is in addition of course, to the flood of Code Red 2's.
I have now recieved more than double code red 2 attempts, just today, than I have _ever_ recieved code red 1 attempts.
I've seen 344 total now, as of midnight MST.
About 1/3 of those are from the original code red... the "NNN" sequence.
Over 2/3 of them are from Code Red 2, the "XXX" sequence!!
That means that in just one day, i've got over twice as many code red 2's as I have code reds total.
Personally, I think that protests have meaning as long as they're actually protesting something.
;)
Of course, many protests these days don't actually protest anything.
Okay... sorry I went on an anti-anti-techno rant there. It's just that my work is so underappreciated. :)
:)
I think I agree with you pretty much, now that you've managed to fully explain your standpoint.
That's strange for slashdot, isn't it.
Only ran in grey at 640x480?? Wow... that means one of two things.
:)
;)
1) Your graphics card is so old that it does not support the VESA standard (wow!)
2) Your graphics card is so new that it is not supported by BeOS yet...
or the most likely one,
3) You did not know how to turn on VESA display modes.
I have used many graphics cards in BeOS that _would_ be displaying in 640x480 gray, except that I used them in VESA mode for 1024x768 at 16 bit color.
well, stuff like sampled sounds and the like (the "ingredients" of techno and electronic music) are very fundamentally different from music notation or tablatures (which would be pretty much equivalent to tracker files).
As far as "random mechanical noise", it's far from it. Have you any clue about the creative process involved in making techno music, or are you speaking purely from a biased-listener standpoint? Techno music is as legitimate as any other musical form, and is "composed" just like any other music (more so than many forms of music). As a multi-instrumental musician of many styles other than techno (including rock, metal, blues, and jazz) I would say that techno is as much real music as any other style.
If you care to debate me on that, at least have a viewpoint other than the same tired anti-rap, or anti-country, or anti-rock perspective of "I don't like how it sounds, so it's not real music".
Open Source?? What does open source have to do with mp3's? Did I miss something?
:)
Open Source is a collective term for a bunch of software licenses that provide source code of the programs. Also the term for the community and ideological beliefs surrounding such licensed software.
MP3 music really has nothing to do with this.
Except for the fact that the occasional song you find on the internet is released under an adapted GPL-like (although I doubt OSF approved) music license.
On another note, I do have an idea for open sourced _techno_ music. Release all the tracker files, keyboard configurations and sythesizer setups, and sound samples that you use. That's really the _source_ of the music, much like source code to a c program, right?
I don't know about "ready for prime time"... but not-so-recent betas of BONE and OpenGL are certainly usable. They've been beta-testing for _years_ now with this stuff. (At least it seems like years). I've been using BeOS for a couple of years, since R5 was first given away for free (the first week, actually)... and I have one thing to say about why Be Inc. has been going down the tubes.
;)
#1) They had a sales and marketing department?? What sales? What marketing? Did these people actually _do_ anything!?
I had never heard of BeOS until I first saw it talked about on Slashdot (no marketing there)... and I know very few people who've actually bought BeOS (no sales)
#2) Well, assuming in the first place that they had users, they certainly did not act like it. The company has been extremely secretive about when their next release is, and what's going on with BeOS and such. From what I gather, though, it wasn't always like that.
I've talked to BeOS developers about this, and seen many a canned reply on the subject, and they all seem to say the same thing. There is too much licensed technology, they can't open source it.
I have _directly_ suggested to Be employees that they open source the non-licensed parts, but they will have none of it. From what I can tell, they see it as suicide (like they can do much better with a closed-source OS).
A lot of people feel that Be _should_ commit suicide commercially at this point (well, maybe not this point, but two months ago when people dismissed the buyout rumors).
I have an idea... why not use their precious DMCA against them? :)
If you write something illegal (say, a paper on how to decrypt DVD's) and then encrypt it with your own _very simple_ encryption... (like switching all the letters "a" and "z" in the paper)...
then if they try to prosecute you for telling people how to decrypt DVD's, then you tell them they have commited an illegal act by 'decrypting' your paper!! =)
Agh! Anybody who clicks on this guy's sig link (the second one), watch out for pop-up ads!
/.? :)
Didn't we just have a very anti-pop-up-ad discussion on
Actually... the rates aren't that high, but I think it is outrageous that we pay $40 a month for Comedy Central and the Food Network. :)
(what? there are other channels? Why would I want to watch those?)
Actually, this is how many rippers have the capability of working... and I would guess that they would rip copy-protected cd's fine.
There is an analog path, and a digital path, from the cdrom drive to the computer. The analog one is the one used to _play_ the audio cd's, and works much like a standalone cd player. The digital one is the one that this copy-prevention scheme is supposed to block.
Using a ripper such as MusicMatch Jukebox (3.0 - from about 3 years ago) that does analog ripping (there are probably many more, I just happen to remember this one doing it) - it should be very easy to legally 'circumvent' the copy-prevention.
All you would be doing is playing the cd, and having your software automatically record it at the same time.
Now here's a story that "regular people" can understand:
The New York Times
Russian hacker picks digital lock, gets arrested
Russian hacker Dmitry Skylarov created a lock-picking system and used it to break into Adobe Systems. He also sold the lock-picking system and marketed in the United States. He was arrested when police chased him to a lock-picking theives' guild. They proceeded to arrest the entire crowd, and fumigate the building. Thankfully, the law that allowed the arrest was the DMCA. Without that law protecting people's locks, no lock would be safe!
Your comment makes me wonder whether you actually read through the entire article, or just saw "JonKatz" at the top and decided to post without reading.
:)
The entire point is that journalists (or those acting with journalistic intent) are not supposed to go to jail for this sort of thing. The DMCA is the only reason that he did.
Let me sum it up for you:
Weapons in Airport = OK
Figure out how encryption works = BAD
Therefore, the DMCA is bad.
They're gonna be huge?? Not with a name like "The Sheila Divine". Did they actually get a record contract with that name? :)
(this is not a troll, just a lame joke)
Now this brings up an interesting point - what is within the capability of the attacker?
:)
With a real lock, there are two things stopping a criminal.
#1) The law - this can be broken
#2) The lock - this can be broken, but is a lot harder - the choice is not up to the attacker to break it.
Basically, a strong deterrent is not one where the attacker simply chooses to break it.
The analogy fits encryption perfectly.
That's a really bad generalization. I have another theory.
Take myself for example. I am at the moment addicted to the Diablo 2 Expansion. I play it about 8 hours a day.
Yesterday, I played basketball for about an hour with a few of my friends. Just like I did on Monday.
I am by no means a fat slug. I weigh about 130 lbs, and I don't think that's considered overweight.
Reasons why it isn't desirable? Easy.
Who's going to control it, assuming it's controlled? And more importantly... are their interests compatible with yours or mine?
Assuming that a commercial net did exist, and that those who controlled it were fairly benign dictators (did not censor stuff too much)... lets consider one thing.
On a commercial net, can I:
- send an e-mail to anybody I want to
- be guaranteed that nobody is going to read it on the way there (i.e. allowed to use encryption)
- put up my own web site
- list myself in a search engine
And can I do any of those things for free? Aside from a monthly fee for net access, I (and many others) are not willing to pay for content or to put up our own content.