From what I've read about Freenet, this is not the case at all. This is from their FAQ page:
4.3. Why hash keys and encrypt data when a node operator could identify them anyway if he tried?
Hashing the key and encrypting the data is not meant a method to keep Freenet Node operators from being able to figure out what type of information is in their nodes if they really want to (after all, they can just find the key in the same way as someone who requests the information would) but rather to keep operators from having to know what information is in their nodes if they don't want to. This distinction is more a legal one than a technical one. It is not realistic to expect a node operator to try to continually collect and/or guess possible keys and then check them against the information in his node (even if such an attack is viable from a security perspective), so a sane society is less likely to hold an operator liable for such information on the network.
People (especially me) will always find a way to have an internet (or something else) connection.;)
Check out this/. story. You'll notice the word "Freenets" in the title; that's a different freenet than the "Freenet project". In this case it just means "free network".
But wouldn't you agree, that freenets make a perfect network for Freenet?:)
Well, this sounds like it's time for Freenet to reach a usable state.:)
That is the only real way we can be safe from bad laws made by people who protect business interests and don't understand technology.
An encrypted, anonymous network can completely ignore legal implications, because there is nobody directly responsible for it, or even for any single transfer.
This is possibly the most TRUE thing i've read on Slashdot this week. It's amazing to find gems like this in between Grits and Natalie Portman posts.
I am 16 right now, and even now I can see how comparatively stupid I was when I was 15.:)
For the record, I have never really bought into the consumerism be-like-everyone-else thing. I don't wear brand-name clothes. Lately, i've been wearing old rock-n-roll and radio station t-shirts. They're comfortable, and I like what they say.
It has perplexed me that 500 people in my school can walk around every day, and not realize at all that they're a living advertisement for Gap, or Hilfiger, or whatever brand is popular at the moment.
I personally recognize those character issues that you speak of. Although I have a mental block towards doing unpleasant things, i'm working on it. And I can see every day just how bad most teenagers are, just as you say - and I'm afraid that it's only going to get worse.
That doesn't affect the gameplay at all, and that's what matters in a game. Although the graphics and sound are certainly subpar by todays standards, many of the games that come out these days are crap if you actually look at the gameplay factor. Civilization was a great game, and it deserves to have a clone, no matter what time it's in. It's still fun.
Re:Here's the text from the article
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As far as I know, "free-loader-and-revenue-thief hell" does not exist.
We're slashdot, remember? What is slashdot if not free-loaders and revenue-thiefs? Isn't that to be expected here?
Also, I am curious as to why I would be moderated down and derided for providing a service to the slashdot community. If you don't want to read the copy of the article that i've provided, you're welcome to skip past it...
Here's the text from the article
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Triana Mothballed
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· Score: 1, Redundant
Here's a copy of the article text, for those who do not wish to see pop-up-ad-hell.:)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A science spacecraft dreamed up by Al Gore, built by NASA and delayed by a Republican Congress is now going into mothballs, grounded for lack of a ride into orbit.
The $120 million spacecraft, called Triana, will complete its final ground tests this month, but instead of going to a Florida launch pad, it will be crated and stored indefinitely at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.
Officials said that for the next few years there is no room in the space shuttle schedule to launch Triana. NASA is limited by a budget pinch to just six space shuttle flights a year and most of them are being taken up with building the international space station, re-servicing the Hubble Space Telescope and other projects with a higher priority than Triana.
Triana evolved from a 1998 suggestion by then-Vice President Gore that NASA park a camera-toting satellite some 1 million miles out in space so it could constantly beam down a picture of the sunlighted Earth. The picture, updated every 15 minutes and carried on the Internet, was to be similar to the famed "whole Earth" photo taken by Apollo astronauts in 1968.
The spacecraft was to be placed at the Lagrange 1 point, a spot in space where scientists say the gravity of Earth and the gravity of the sun are balanced. The sunnyside of the Earth would be in constant view. Besides capturing the planetary picture suggested by Gore, instruments on Triana would have a unique perspective for studying the Earth's atmosphere, climate and seasonal changes. It would be the first time that such a whole Earth analysis would be possible, scientists said.
Officials named the project after Rodrigo de Triana, the sailor on Columbus' voyage of discovery who first sighted the New World.
"The idea that the vice president had was philosophical. He wanted schoolchildren to look at our planet and appreciate our environment," said Francisco P. J. Valero, the mission's principal scientist. "We realized that there was a lot of science that could be done with such a spacecraft."
Valero, head of an atmospheric research lab at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego, and other researchers devised the instruments to be carried on Triana.
But on the way to the launch pad, Triana got ambushed by the Republican-led House of Representatives.
House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, called the spacecraft "a far-out boondoggle." Others ridiculed Triana as the "GoreCam" or "GoreSat." In a partisan vote in May 1999, a House committee cut funds for Triana from NASA's budget.
The money was later restored in a conference committee, but Congress delayed the launch until January 2001, when Gore was to leave the vice presidency, and required that the project first be analyzed by the National Academy of Sciences.
In March 2000, a National Academy committee reported that Triana had "the potential to make unique scientific contributions," even though the mission had "higher than usual risks."
With the Academy endorsement and money from Congress, NASA kicked the project into high gear. The spacecraft, bristling with science instruments and Gore's camera, was built in record time--- but by then it was too late.
Craig Tooley, the deputy project manager, said that when Triana was first proposed, there were enough flights and cargo space for it to fit into the space shuttle schedule.
But now, the shuttle is limited to six flights a year and is heavily loaded with higher priority missions.
After its final ground tests are complete, Triana will be put into an aluminum crate filled with dry nitrogen and stored at Goddard as sort of an air-sealed, space age hanger queen. For how long, nobody knows.
"NASA is committed to flying it and I believe it will get off the ground eventually," said Tooley. He said it is unlikely that Triana could fly before 2004.
In the meantime, NASA will be spending about a million dollars a year to store Triana. The craft's solid rocket propellant, which chemically degrades, expires in 2003 and will have to be replaced, at the cost of about $3 million, before Triana can fly. It would also take $5 to $10 million to recalibrate the instruments after the craft comes out of mothballs. That job alone could take months, said Tooley.
"We've already spent $120 million on Triana," said Valero. "That will all go to waste unless we fly the thing."
Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Well, this leads to another question. How will anyone outside of Japan benefit from SDL for PS2? If the linux kit is only available in Japan, is it possible for a freely-available alternative to pop up?
Although the PS2 does require modification to play burned CDR's, right? I thought it needed a mod chip for that. Also, can it play PS2 games with PS1 headers, or does it expect a PS1 game once it sees the headers?
Writing and distributing a game for a computer is fairly easy. But I don't see how the same process could be applied to the PS2.
How would games developed for the PS2 with SDL actually get to people? I doubt we're going to see a lot of free, open-source games on DVD at Best Buy. But (for instance) I can play a whole slew of SDL-based games on Linux, Windows, and BeOS with just a quick download.
It seems to me like this might be a problem for the PS2.
My idea for a standard, but very well-protected format is this.
Every e-book reader (and computer, of course) has a way of generating a PGP-compatible key set. (This would be built into e-book readers).
When you order a book, you give the web server your PGP public key. The web server that you download it from sends you the book, encrypted with your public key.
Of course, you need your private key to decrypt it, right? (Or am I misunderstanding how PGP works?)
So if only you have your private key (which is the nature of private keys, isn't it?) and they encrypt it specifically for you, then there can't be any piracy, can there.
Only one problem: after about an hour, some wiz3-azz will decide to decrypt the book and distribute it on the net. But I doubt most people would go through the trouble when e-book readers only read _your_ encrypted books...:)
I did have my doubts at first... 25k apache and all...
Then they were confirmed when I saw that a huge portion of the 25k was taken up by completely meaningless (and obviously fabricated) lines of code such as:
I was under the impression that "data" actually had to do something. Random numbers don't run apache, unfortunately...
Then again, the BASIC code looks just wrong to me anyway. It's been a while since I've seen BASIC, but it looks just plain wrong. Take a look at this line:
5500 PEEK 459
WTF is "peek 459"!??
Unless there's something I don't know about BASIC... such as random numbers being assigned to things like I/O or whatever...
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From what I've read about Freenet, this is not the case at all. This is from their FAQ page:
4.3. Why hash keys and encrypt data when a node operator could identify them anyway if he tried?
Hashing the key and encrypting the data is not meant a method to keep Freenet Node operators from being able to figure out what type of information is in their nodes if they really want to (after all, they can just find the key in the same way as someone who requests the information would) but rather to keep operators from having to know what information is in their nodes if they don't want to. This distinction is more a legal one than a technical one. It is not realistic to expect a node operator to try to continually collect and/or guess possible keys and then check them against the information in his node (even if such an attack is viable from a security perspective), so a sane society is less likely to hold an operator liable for such information on the network.
People (especially me) will always find a way to have an internet (or something else) connection. ;)
/. story. You'll notice the word "Freenets" in the title; that's a different freenet than the "Freenet project". In this case it just means "free network".
:)
Check out this
But wouldn't you agree, that freenets make a perfect network for Freenet?
Of course a business is a legal entity. That is why a business, such as Napster, has a failing point. It can be sued.
Freenet is not a business. It is not even an organization; only individuals who work on the project.
The only thing there that can be sued is any individual developer of Freenet. That can never stop the network, it will only slow down development.
Well, this sounds like it's time for Freenet to reach a usable state. :)
That is the only real way we can be safe from bad laws made by people who protect business interests and don't understand technology.
An encrypted, anonymous network can completely ignore legal implications, because there is nobody directly responsible for it, or even for any single transfer.
Nothing like a good look at Stef to cheer you up, huh? :)
Whoa! Mod this up, please.
:)
This is possibly the most TRUE thing i've read on Slashdot this week. It's amazing to find gems like this in between Grits and Natalie Portman posts.
I am 16 right now, and even now I can see how comparatively stupid I was when I was 15.
For the record, I have never really bought into the consumerism be-like-everyone-else thing. I don't wear brand-name clothes. Lately, i've been wearing old rock-n-roll and radio station t-shirts. They're comfortable, and I like what they say.
It has perplexed me that 500 people in my school can walk around every day, and not realize at all that they're a living advertisement for Gap, or Hilfiger, or whatever brand is popular at the moment.
I personally recognize those character issues that you speak of. Although I have a mental block towards doing unpleasant things, i'm working on it. And I can see every day just how bad most teenagers are, just as you say - and I'm afraid that it's only going to get worse.
Hrm. That's strange.
:)
Bug in slashcode? Hoax? CmdrTaco moonlighting as evil_spork? You decide.
What does it matter if the game is old?
That doesn't affect the gameplay at all, and that's what matters in a game. Although the graphics and sound are certainly subpar by todays standards, many of the games that come out these days are crap if you actually look at the gameplay factor. Civilization was a great game, and it deserves to have a clone, no matter what time it's in. It's still fun.
As far as I know, "free-loader-and-revenue-thief hell" does not exist.
We're slashdot, remember? What is slashdot if not free-loaders and revenue-thiefs? Isn't that to be expected here?
Also, I am curious as to why I would be moderated down and derided for providing a service to the slashdot community. If you don't want to read the copy of the article that i've provided, you're welcome to skip past it...
Here's a copy of the article text, for those who do not wish to see pop-up-ad-hell. :)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A science spacecraft dreamed up by Al Gore, built by NASA and delayed by a Republican Congress is now going into mothballs, grounded for lack of a ride into orbit.
The $120 million spacecraft, called Triana, will complete its final ground tests this month, but instead of going to a Florida launch pad, it will be crated and stored indefinitely at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.
Officials said that for the next few years there is no room in the space shuttle schedule to launch Triana. NASA is limited by a budget pinch to just six space shuttle flights a year and most of them are being taken up with building the international space station, re-servicing the Hubble Space Telescope and other projects with a higher priority than Triana.
Triana evolved from a 1998 suggestion by then-Vice President Gore that NASA park a camera-toting satellite some 1 million miles out in space so it could constantly beam down a picture of the sunlighted Earth. The picture, updated every 15 minutes and carried on the Internet, was to be similar to the famed "whole Earth" photo taken by Apollo astronauts in 1968.
The spacecraft was to be placed at the Lagrange 1 point, a spot in space where scientists say the gravity of Earth and the gravity of the sun are balanced. The sunnyside of the Earth would be in constant view. Besides capturing the planetary picture suggested by Gore, instruments on Triana would have a unique perspective for studying the Earth's atmosphere, climate and seasonal changes. It would be the first time that such a whole Earth analysis would be possible, scientists said.
Officials named the project after Rodrigo de Triana, the sailor on Columbus' voyage of discovery who first sighted the New World.
"The idea that the vice president had was philosophical. He wanted schoolchildren to look at our planet and appreciate our environment," said Francisco P. J. Valero, the mission's principal scientist. "We realized that there was a lot of science that could be done with such a spacecraft."
Valero, head of an atmospheric research lab at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego, and other researchers devised the instruments to be carried on Triana.
But on the way to the launch pad, Triana got ambushed by the Republican-led House of Representatives.
House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, called the spacecraft "a far-out boondoggle." Others ridiculed Triana as the "GoreCam" or "GoreSat." In a partisan vote in May 1999, a House committee cut funds for Triana from NASA's budget.
The money was later restored in a conference committee, but Congress delayed the launch until January 2001, when Gore was to leave the vice presidency, and required that the project first be analyzed by the National Academy of Sciences.
In March 2000, a National Academy committee reported that Triana had "the potential to make unique scientific contributions," even though the mission had "higher than usual risks."
With the Academy endorsement and money from Congress, NASA kicked the project into high gear. The spacecraft, bristling with science instruments and Gore's camera, was built in record time--- but by then it was too late.
Craig Tooley, the deputy project manager, said that when Triana was first proposed, there were enough flights and cargo space for it to fit into the space shuttle schedule.
But now, the shuttle is limited to six flights a year and is heavily loaded with higher priority missions.
After its final ground tests are complete, Triana will be put into an aluminum crate filled with dry nitrogen and stored at Goddard as sort of an air-sealed, space age hanger queen. For how long, nobody knows.
"NASA is committed to flying it and I believe it will get off the ground eventually," said Tooley. He said it is unlikely that Triana could fly before 2004.
In the meantime, NASA will be spending about a million dollars a year to store Triana. The craft's solid rocket propellant, which chemically degrades, expires in 2003 and will have to be replaced, at the cost of about $3 million, before Triana can fly. It would also take $5 to $10 million to recalibrate the instruments after the craft comes out of mothballs. That job alone could take months, said Tooley.
"We've already spent $120 million on Triana," said Valero. "That will all go to waste unless we fly the thing."
Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Knocking down the 5's? I actually had a 3 (top-level thread) knocked down in an article today.
:-/
I thought it was interesting. So did 3 moderators.
One comes by, and suddenly it's only score 2, and everybody with their thresholds set to +3 can't read it.
Oh well, such is the way of moderation, I guess...
Well, this leads to another question. How will anyone outside of Japan benefit from SDL for PS2? If the linux kit is only available in Japan, is it possible for a freely-available alternative to pop up?
Although the PS2 does require modification to play burned CDR's, right? I thought it needed a mod chip for that. Also, can it play PS2 games with PS1 headers, or does it expect a PS1 game once it sees the headers?
What, and muppets are bad? I happen to like muppets... :P
Umm... it's April Fools' Day, right?
Right?
(panic attack sets in)
Hrm... wouldn't that make the whole project kinda useless? I thought the whole point of developing games was so that people could play them. ;)
Actually, I interpreted the "overhead" to mean development time (as used in the context of the original post that I replied to).
:)
As far as I know, using a graphics/sound library can pretty much only speed up development time.
Then again... if I interpreted the original poster wrong... then you're right.
Personally, I don't care all that much about numbers of polygons. If it's that much easier to write a game, I think it's worthwhile.
Have you ever actually used SDL?
I play SDL-based games regularly, and to me it looks like a direct parallel to DirectX.
I can play every game on my system, using only a single shared library for graphics and sound I/O.
These games were all developed using a single shared library for graphics and sound I/O.
Tell me how this adds 50-75% overhead?
Writing and distributing a game for a computer is fairly easy. But I don't see how the same process could be applied to the PS2.
How would games developed for the PS2 with SDL actually get to people? I doubt we're going to see a lot of free, open-source games on DVD at Best Buy. But (for instance) I can play a whole slew of SDL-based games on Linux, Windows, and BeOS with just a quick download.
It seems to me like this might be a problem for the PS2.
Actually... I thought Return of the Jedi was a lot better than either. But that's just me...
:)
Yeah... like Phantom Menace was a great sequel...
Actually, this is exactly what I thought when I read the article... a half hour before this was posted.
:)
I thought "Code Red III" looked funny, but didn't think to submit it to Slashdot, what with it being a pile of crap and all...
I still think there are only two versions, and they're claiming the second one is the third.
Oh... wow... that actually is something!
:)
It looked too fake to me. I've never seen an intire line of code be simply a single function and a number.
Then again, i've never used "peek".
I still think their code is completely bogus though.
Wow... apparently these things are real. I thought it was just marketing, but...
:P
:)
they're real!
Wow. After all this time, i've never heard of one being used. Even within Intel.
My idea for a standard, but very well-protected format is this.
:)
Every e-book reader (and computer, of course) has a way of generating a PGP-compatible key set. (This would be built into e-book readers).
When you order a book, you give the web server your PGP public key. The web server that you download it from sends you the book, encrypted with your public key.
Of course, you need your private key to decrypt it, right? (Or am I misunderstanding how PGP works?)
So if only you have your private key (which is the nature of private keys, isn't it?) and they encrypt it specifically for you, then there can't be any piracy, can there.
Only one problem: after about an hour, some wiz3-azz will decide to decrypt the book and distribute it on the net. But I doubt most people would go through the trouble when e-book readers only read _your_ encrypted books...
Well, somehow I doubt that's real code... :)
I did have my doubts at first... 25k apache and all...
Then they were confirmed when I saw that a huge portion of the 25k was taken up by completely meaningless (and obviously fabricated) lines of code such as:
20000 DATA 5000, 27966, 36460, 32642, 4907, 15746, 27714, 38746, 21078
Umm... just what data IS this??
I was under the impression that "data" actually had to do something. Random numbers don't run apache, unfortunately...
Then again, the BASIC code looks just wrong to me anyway. It's been a while since I've seen BASIC, but it looks just plain wrong. Take a look at this line:
5500 PEEK 459
WTF is "peek 459"!??
Unless there's something I don't know about BASIC... such as random numbers being assigned to things like I/O or whatever...