Don't bring morality into this. This is law, and morality has no place here. If it did, a certain 12 year old little girl from the projects would still be downloading Eminem tonight, and the music industry would have been nuked several times by many, many, many people who have believed over the years that the music industry lacks morals of any kind.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. ESPECIALLY when they ARE after you. Then you really have some justification to be paranoid, don't you?
Oh dear! You mean to tell me that the 9 year olds might actually have to get REAL JOBS when they grow up? Dear god, then they'd have to earn a living like every other starving artist on the planet! NOOOO! I should make it my mission in life to make sure there are more whiny, overpaid, underproductive people in the world! Baseball players aren't enough! I WANT MORE! Give me "musicians" who don't write or play their own music! Give me HTML "coders"! Give me "artists" who get paid to hang dead rats on trees! THESE PEOPLE NEED HIGH PAYING JOBS FOR THEIR OBVIOUS CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIETY!!!
Besides the fact that the kids AREN'T being paid for their work makes the "It's already available for free on the internet" think kind of redundant, n'est pas? If you're going to brainwash kids, at least do a decent job of it and offer up something tangible so they might actually get the idea. The way they're doing it now is more a lesson on why copyrights suck ass than anything else. That's right kids, the Pooperprise 5000 has already been copyrighted and patented. Stop talking about it or we WILL press charges.
If you're speaking in a public forum, the onus is on you to ensure you're not telling lies. You know, there are laws against libel and slander too, and those only apply when you're lying. Just think of these as libel laws applying to a race as a whole.
Tell me, are you the person responsible for the equally innane AC post I was responding to? If you aren't, shut your trap and move along, because it seems to me that this post just doesn't apply to you. The guy is acting like choosing an OS is some choice where what people will think about you should weigh highly in your mind when choosing. That's a load of trash. I took the opportunity to broaden it to send a message to every shmuck who thinks buying an AMD will make you a better person than buying an Intel, or buying an Nvidia will make you cooler than buying an ATI(or vice versa). If you make technical decisions like that, where stupidity like that can override a sound technical decision, perhaps you shouldn't be using computers. Maybe you should be collecting stuffed animals or something instead, so you don't have to suffer when you make a stupid decision because the alternative "isn't cool enough".
I think you should double check before you do anything TOO drastic. I'm not convinced this guys credentials are to be taken to seriously.
First, He's an Assistant Editor. Now, combine the fact that he's talking allegedly about an Athlon here(for his college computer). Assuming this, it's not hard to say that it's only been 5 years or so since he's been in school tops, assuming he bought this computer in his final year. Since Athlons don't grow on trees(Except in Ontario, but that's just pollution), it's safe to say he started college with an athlon, rather than buying it later while trying to pay off his student loans. Here's the tricky part: Since it's obvious he doesn't have the slightest bit of technical training, he almost certainly didn't take vocational training in college(which would mean, since he works at the wsj, he most likely took either a writing or arts program. That's four years right there). I'd wager he more than likely is only a year or two out of college. The fact that he felt the need to mention his job in the post(I know there are quite a few slashdot readers who are actual staff writers at places that would impress tech guys a hell of a lot more than wsj) says to me that he's fresh out of college as well, and that he's only been at his current job for a very short time. It might even be one of his first jobs too. Most people aren't too keen to announce their job as an assistant editor to a room of strangers unless they haven't really had any good jobs before or something of the sort.
This information, paired with the fact that his e-mail address listed is a yahoo account, rather than either a wsj account(Which a person who was serious about his sig would undoubtedly use) or even an ISP mail account, lead me to believe this guy is an intern(perhaps under some other name, but an intern is an intern).
My advice, if I am correct about his status, is not to bother talking to the wsj. Speaking from experience, most places tend to ignore critisism about new interns.:)
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I'd like to inform you that any modern processor in a laptop will run hot. If you don't believe that to be the case, I invite you to run a p3 or p4 laptop on your lap for several hours.
Tell me, Amsterdam Vallon, what broke on your AMD college computer? Unless it was a defect with the construction of an AMD processor, your point will prove irrelevant. I'm using an AMD processor right now, and my Windows 2000 machine got a virus thanks to IE and broke. That's not AMDs fault. My old motherboard needed a flash upgrade to use an XP 1800+. That's not AMDs fault. My hard drive was an old 1Gb and after years of service, died. That's not AMDs fault. Furthermore, if you managed to crush your core, or if you installed inadequate cooling or did a substandard installation initially in any way, you cannot blame AMD. They make processors. Installing a P4 with some sub-par Aladin chipset motherboard by PC-CHIPS, a 100 watt power supply, an IBM DeathStar hard drive, cheap ram made in some communist country and a Socket 7 heatsink will result in your machine breaking as well.
For the record, I'm on my fourth Athlon. I've used the chips without problems, upgraded without a hitch, and run the new chip without problems until I decided to upgrade again. My next machine is undoubtedly going to be an Athlon 64 as a result of the quality I've witnessed.
Whose fascism? Allowing minority families to live in terror to protect some idealistic slippery slope sounds more like tyranny than saying that you're not allowed to speak lies about minorities to cause hatred(because truths aren't against the law), and you're not allowed to advocate genocide(which is something you can hardly call a slippery slope).
I'm not prepared to believe you know exactly what you're saying here. In this case, the one who is being unprofessional is SCO. The Linux community is saying "Please point out the offending code so our engineers can remove it. We're sorry for any inconvenience", and are being met with "NO! Then we won't have anything to sue you for!". The Linux community is the one here that needs to stop being unprofessional? Only if you're a professional sleazeball.
Let me make something absolutely clear, because it seems to me that there are just a few too many fools like you waltzing around like you have a clue.
Choosing an OS isn't choosing a sweater or a T-shirt. YOUR OS IS NOT A FASHION STATEMENT.
You are not your CPU. You're not your video card. You're not your case. You're not your monitor or your speakers. These things do NOT define you as a person. Quit trying to figure out what's fashionable this week like some sort of loser and USE WHAT YOU WANT FOR TECHNICAL OR AESTHETIC REASONS. If you choose a technical part or piece of software for ANY reason that tries to make it seem like you're hip, or cool, or part of some 'in' crowd, or not part of some 'out' crowd, you're nothing but a loser in denial. There's a reason it's called "Computer Engineering" and not "Computer Sociology".
Windows 2000 is a terrible clone of the true "windows Experience". Sure, you get plenty of viruses if you use IE or Outlook, but if you're just running 2k, you don't get nearly as many crashes, which is really dissapointing for those seeking the true Windows Experience.:)
This makes no sense to me -- care to elabourate? Do you mean that Red Hat doesn't include the real "Editing files in/etc by hand instead of using a pretty tool" Linux experience? If so, I recommend Windows 95, disk version for the true Windows experience.
WOW! You've got your facts about as wrong as they get! Both browsers are based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
Internet Explorer is distributed under a licensing agreement with Spyglass, Inc, which is where they got the code from.
I don't recall whether Netscape was derived from NCSA code though, and the about: doesn't say anything to that effect, so I have to assume that by Version 4 they had at the very least purged the NCSA code from their codebase.
Mozilla is just a really cool web browser that was started by Netscape.
The story is false. Period. Lies, nothing more. I'm not the worlds biggest fan of Linux, but this story reeks of spoiled numbers. Don't believe me? SLAMMER. NIMDA. CODE RED. BUGBEAR. BLASTER. Each and every infection represents a successful breach, and a dangerous one at that. The only concievable way that linux could have more breaches is if the numbers were selectively chosen; "Well, among hackers with red hair and "MS RuLe$" tatto'd on their backs, Linux servers are breached far more often!". Even if there was a 10x difference in number, the fact remains that the Internet is saturated with windows hacking packets, while Linux hacking packets remain nearly non-existant.
While this is interesting from a legal standpoint, I doubt this will turn out to be significant. the RIAA is in an interesting position of percieved moral superiority that far surpasses any logic. They could line file-traders up against a wall and shoot them, and they'd probably spin it as a good thing for everyone. What I'm waiting for is the hacking legislation they want so bad to be enacted. At that point, I'll put my machine on-line with several thousand deceptively named MP3s, watch my firewall, and keep my lawyer on the speeddial.
Well, not really. I could though. More than likely, I'll say I am morally outraged, post about it on slashdot, and feel more like some fundamentalist unabomber for a few hours before I calm down and realize I'm completely immune to their attempts at bribery in the US for various reasons.
You know, if you stole 100 CDs(2000 songs/20 songs per CD), the punishment for grand larceny would certainly be less, even in at maximum, than what the RIAA are threatening -- $3 000 000 per CD. Sure, the settlement was closer to a dollar per song(this is assuming that it really was 2000 songs, and not just under 1000, where the fine would start adding up), but that settlement was just a PR move, and considering the circumstances, still a poor one.
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Don't bring morality into this. This is law, and morality has no place here. If it did, a certain 12 year old little girl from the projects would still be downloading Eminem tonight, and the music industry would have been nuked several times by many, many, many people who have believed over the years that the music industry lacks morals of any kind.
Since when is taking a photograph or replica of a statue the same as using a crane to hoist it away?
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. ESPECIALLY when they ARE after you. Then you really have some justification to be paranoid, don't you?
Oh dear! You mean to tell me that the 9 year olds might actually have to get REAL JOBS when they grow up? Dear god, then they'd have to earn a living like every other starving artist on the planet! NOOOO! I should make it my mission in life to make sure there are more whiny, overpaid, underproductive people in the world! Baseball players aren't enough! I WANT MORE! Give me "musicians" who don't write or play their own music! Give me HTML "coders"! Give me "artists" who get paid to hang dead rats on trees! THESE PEOPLE NEED HIGH PAYING JOBS FOR THEIR OBVIOUS CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIETY!!!
Besides the fact that the kids AREN'T being paid for their work makes the "It's already available for free on the internet" think kind of redundant, n'est pas? If you're going to brainwash kids, at least do a decent job of it and offer up something tangible so they might actually get the idea. The way they're doing it now is more a lesson on why copyrights suck ass than anything else. That's right kids, the Pooperprise 5000 has already been copyrighted and patented. Stop talking about it or we WILL press charges.
If you're speaking in a public forum, the onus is on you to ensure you're not telling lies. You know, there are laws against libel and slander too, and those only apply when you're lying. Just think of these as libel laws applying to a race as a whole.
Tell me, are you the person responsible for the equally innane AC post I was responding to? If you aren't, shut your trap and move along, because it seems to me that this post just doesn't apply to you. The guy is acting like choosing an OS is some choice where what people will think about you should weigh highly in your mind when choosing. That's a load of trash. I took the opportunity to broaden it to send a message to every shmuck who thinks buying an AMD will make you a better person than buying an Intel, or buying an Nvidia will make you cooler than buying an ATI(or vice versa). If you make technical decisions like that, where stupidity like that can override a sound technical decision, perhaps you shouldn't be using computers. Maybe you should be collecting stuffed animals or something instead, so you don't have to suffer when you make a stupid decision because the alternative "isn't cool enough".
I think you should double check before you do anything TOO drastic. I'm not convinced this guys credentials are to be taken to seriously.
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First, He's an Assistant Editor. Now, combine the fact that he's talking allegedly about an Athlon here(for his college computer). Assuming this, it's not hard to say that it's only been 5 years or so since he's been in school tops, assuming he bought this computer in his final year. Since Athlons don't grow on trees(Except in Ontario, but that's just pollution), it's safe to say he started college with an athlon, rather than buying it later while trying to pay off his student loans. Here's the tricky part: Since it's obvious he doesn't have the slightest bit of technical training, he almost certainly didn't take vocational training in college(which would mean, since he works at the wsj, he most likely took either a writing or arts program. That's four years right there). I'd wager he more than likely is only a year or two out of college. The fact that he felt the need to mention his job in the post(I know there are quite a few slashdot readers who are actual staff writers at places that would impress tech guys a hell of a lot more than wsj) says to me that he's fresh out of college as well, and that he's only been at his current job for a very short time. It might even be one of his first jobs too. Most people aren't too keen to announce their job as an assistant editor to a room of strangers unless they haven't really had any good jobs before or something of the sort.
This information, paired with the fact that his e-mail address listed is a yahoo account, rather than either a wsj account(Which a person who was serious about his sig would undoubtedly use) or even an ISP mail account, lead me to believe this guy is an intern(perhaps under some other name, but an intern is an intern).
My advice, if I am correct about his status, is not to bother talking to the wsj. Speaking from experience, most places tend to ignore critisism about new interns.
I'd like to inform you that any modern processor in a laptop will run hot. If you don't believe that to be the case, I invite you to run a p3 or p4 laptop on your lap for several hours.
Tell me, Amsterdam Vallon, what broke on your AMD college computer? Unless it was a defect with the construction of an AMD processor, your point will prove irrelevant. I'm using an AMD processor right now, and my Windows 2000 machine got a virus thanks to IE and broke. That's not AMDs fault. My old motherboard needed a flash upgrade to use an XP 1800+. That's not AMDs fault. My hard drive was an old 1Gb and after years of service, died. That's not AMDs fault. Furthermore, if you managed to crush your core, or if you installed inadequate cooling or did a substandard installation initially in any way, you cannot blame AMD. They make processors. Installing a P4 with some sub-par Aladin chipset motherboard by PC-CHIPS, a 100 watt power supply, an IBM DeathStar hard drive, cheap ram made in some communist country and a Socket 7 heatsink will result in your machine breaking as well.
For the record, I'm on my fourth Athlon. I've used the chips without problems, upgraded without a hitch, and run the new chip without problems until I decided to upgrade again. My next machine is undoubtedly going to be an Athlon 64 as a result of the quality I've witnessed.
Whose fascism? Allowing minority families to live in terror to protect some idealistic slippery slope sounds more like tyranny than saying that you're not allowed to speak lies about minorities to cause hatred(because truths aren't against the law), and you're not allowed to advocate genocide(which is something you can hardly call a slippery slope).
I'm not prepared to believe you know exactly what you're saying here. In this case, the one who is being unprofessional is SCO. The Linux community is saying "Please point out the offending code so our engineers can remove it. We're sorry for any inconvenience", and are being met with "NO! Then we won't have anything to sue you for!". The Linux community is the one here that needs to stop being unprofessional? Only if you're a professional sleazeball.
Let me make something absolutely clear, because it seems to me that there are just a few too many fools like you waltzing around like you have a clue.
Choosing an OS isn't choosing a sweater or a T-shirt. YOUR OS IS NOT A FASHION STATEMENT.
You are not your CPU. You're not your video card. You're not your case. You're not your monitor or your speakers. These things do NOT define you as a person. Quit trying to figure out what's fashionable this week like some sort of loser and USE WHAT YOU WANT FOR TECHNICAL OR AESTHETIC REASONS. If you choose a technical part or piece of software for ANY reason that tries to make it seem like you're hip, or cool, or part of some 'in' crowd, or not part of some 'out' crowd, you're nothing but a loser in denial. There's a reason it's called "Computer Engineering" and not "Computer Sociology".
>Is too.
Is not!
Windows 2000 is a terrible clone of the true "windows Experience". Sure, you get plenty of viruses if you use IE or Outlook, but if you're just running 2k, you don't get nearly as many crashes, which is really dissapointing for those seeking the true Windows Experience. :)
This makes no sense to me -- care to elabourate? Do you mean that Red Hat doesn't include the real "Editing files in /etc by hand instead of using a pretty tool" Linux experience? If so, I recommend Windows 95, disk version for the true Windows experience.
WOW! You've got your facts about as wrong as they get! Both browsers are based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
Internet Explorer is distributed under a licensing agreement with Spyglass, Inc, which is where they got the code from.
I don't recall whether Netscape was derived from NCSA code though, and the about: doesn't say anything to that effect, so I have to assume that by Version 4 they had at the very least purged the NCSA code from their codebase.
Mozilla is just a really cool web browser that was started by Netscape.
I wouldn't say that. I mean, if they were, how would we detect fires in our homes?
You know, reading that message, I wonder if you aren't just using all those large-ish words to make us small word usin' folk feel bad. :P
Oh, the beautiful, beautiful irony. Please, tell us more about how much people who post on slashdot suck!
Nobody needs to tell people to kill niggers either.
In america, laws against telling a crowd of people to kill a bunch of minorities is a thought crime law. In canada, it's anti-hate speech legislation.
When you look at a cloudy sky, are you frustrated by the lack of black or white, but the countless shades of grey?
The story is false. Period. Lies, nothing more. I'm not the worlds biggest fan of Linux, but this story reeks of spoiled numbers. Don't believe me? SLAMMER. NIMDA. CODE RED. BUGBEAR. BLASTER. Each and every infection represents a successful breach, and a dangerous one at that. The only concievable way that linux could have more breaches is if the numbers were selectively chosen; "Well, among hackers with red hair and "MS RuLe$" tatto'd on their backs, Linux servers are breached far more often!". Even if there was a 10x difference in number, the fact remains that the Internet is saturated with windows hacking packets, while Linux hacking packets remain nearly non-existant.
Check the logs.
While this is interesting from a legal standpoint, I doubt this will turn out to be significant. the RIAA is in an interesting position of percieved moral superiority that far surpasses any logic. They could line file-traders up against a wall and shoot them, and they'd probably spin it as a good thing for everyone. What I'm waiting for is the hacking legislation they want so bad to be enacted. At that point, I'll put my machine on-line with several thousand deceptively named MP3s, watch my firewall, and keep my lawyer on the speeddial.
Well, not really. I could though. More than likely, I'll say I am morally outraged, post about it on slashdot, and feel more like some fundamentalist unabomber for a few hours before I calm down and realize I'm completely immune to their attempts at bribery in the US for various reasons.
See? I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist.
You know, if you stole 100 CDs(2000 songs/20 songs per CD), the punishment for grand larceny would certainly be less, even in at maximum, than what the RIAA are threatening -- $3 000 000 per CD. Sure, the settlement was closer to a dollar per song(this is assuming that it really was 2000 songs, and not just under 1000, where the fine would start adding up), but that settlement was just a PR move, and considering the circumstances, still a poor one.
hmmmm....this sounds like a job for, "THE MANIC CODER!"(tm)(c)(r)
Wait...no it doesn't. Maybe if I had the source to a well set-up proxy system it would be. Otherwise I guess it's not really that manic.