This discussion reminds me of that kids in the hall skit where the homeless bums are sitting around on the street going "Oh, we're so hungry! What could we possibly eat? Oh! I know! We can eat our university degrees! Ah! Delicious theology!"
Nihilism is a wonderful first principle. It's the most honest of all the first principles because it doesn't require a human to be around to be considered true, and the most equal because without value, meaning, or sense, there's no reason to place one human or one species or one planet over another.
Remember children, if we don't violate privacy so violently that she's rocking back and forth in foetal position in the corner begging for her mommy as we wait for our erections to recharge so we can violate her again, the terrorists have already won.
As opposed to how things are now, where they just have the de-facto standard for commercial development.
Unlike web browsers and media players, compilers and dev tools actually have something to do with an operating system, and I think devs would be happy, rather than upset, if they were included.
of course, if you couldn't remove them, like windows media player and internet explorer, then I could see an issue. You know, because like an operating system doesn't actually need an integrated web browser, media player, or compiler suite to work.
True it can be a hassle, but it's not as bad as it used to be. IE7 in particular does a pretty good job of locking down things like the 'gator installs without you knowing on sphosting.com pages' issue.
The irony there is that if you use that second definition, then I'm running Linux. It's Windows XP, but all the tools I use are open source. I've got firefox and openoffice, I develop using the gnu tools running on mingw and msys, and basically, a tonne of the same software I'd use in Linux if that's the kernel I used.
Granted, I do use the windows shell instead of x11, but really -- x11 is the single greatest weakness of OSS platforms at the moment, in my opinion. It's fine if you want to dick around with configuration files to get stuff working, but problematic otherwise.
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking "Gee, it would be awesome to use a Mac at work. Let's see... Well, I've got Autocad, which doesn't exist for mac. Oh. I've got a big samba network that'll be a pain to access with the Mac. Oh. I've got a corporate intranet which can only be accessed with IE7. Oh. Finally, I've got a few dozen scripts I've written in FreeBASIC, which doesn't exist for Mac. Oh. Most of those arguements actually exist for Linux, too.
It was about there that I decided that I'd best get used to Windows, because I'm going to be staring at it for a while.
I was going to blast you, but you have a point. There are a number of ways to protect against most of the more difficult problems of a Windows system in a windows network, and most of them scale pretty well. If you've got any more authority to change things than a helpdesk tech, you've likely got the proper authority to insert certain barriers to the entry of bad software.
"Hey! I'm some jackass paid by Microsoft that in the past has shown that I'm a Jackass! You'd best show my article!"
You know, I know that introspection is important, that one must ask tough questions of himself before ever asking a tough question of someone else, that if you fail to hold yourself to the highest standard that you are refusing yourself the ability to hold others to any standards. The thing is, this is a person who doesn't have anything to do with OSS except being charged with knocking it down.
There might be some interesting questions lurking in there (Though empirical evidence seems to me to show that it's a bunch of smoke and mirrors for the most part), but this is analogous to some idiot walking around going "I don't think this internet fad has legs" - He hasn't really been a part of it, it's his job to be in opposition, so he's completely blind to it.
He's hitting some interesting points by mistake, but it's like someone who watches Dr. Phil for all their philosophical needs trying to converse with a Ph. D in Philosophy. Yes, the pop culture educated person might accidentally fall on some interesting questions, but they're accidents, and he likely thinks he's the first person to ask these questions. The Philosophy doctor, on the other hand, knows thousands of years of philosophy, and when the question is asked, he can go "Well, what you're talking about was covered by these philosophers, In modern theory, the concept is this, and the current consensus according to this philosophy which is considered the most widely accepted today says this. Alternative philosophies say this. There's an answer, but it depends on your point of view.", or something similar. The pop culture educated person will likely think the Philosophy Ph. D is just trying to show how smart he is at this point, but that road isn't relevant to this discussion.
Actually, I was talking about my field of work, Instrumentation and control engineering.
I haven't been on the job for too long, but just making it through college has given me a lot of knowledge that's sort of 'black magic' to a lot of different people from a lot of different fields.
To be fair, I don't think Bush has any sexual perversions to speak of. He's much more the "Send tens of thousands of America's sons off to die in a red herring of a war against an irrelevant dictator, a war whose purpose is so enigmatic that the 'everything in the past 100 years has been caused by oil and oil alone' crowd actually gets airtime while tens of thousands of innocent civilians die" type.
And the reason for the caps is that I'm yelling. It's the appropriate response to a person who not only lied about being a tenured professor of theology, but stole my name.
You make a good point I hadn't thought of before. If this stuff is both physically abraisive and chemically active, it might be a constant struggle to keep it outside and the air inside.
Lime Kilns and recausticizing plants in paper mills are usually just slathered in lime dust, which turns into a strong base when exposed to moisture, and eats away at everything. If we can design a recaust plant that you could eat a meal in without dying violently, that would be good practice for a long-term moon base.
Oh, Gaming is an art form, but most people mistake the other artforms that go into making it for the art form itself. It's like saying that the art of a film is the costumes, sets, and musical accompaniment. The art of film is separate and distinct from these things, things like the acting, the editing, the writing in the context of a film. These things don't just make a movie noteworthy for snobs, they're important if you'd like to have a film that's fun to watch.
Game design has a similar art all it's own. If you had to play as many games by amateurs as I have being part of an indie game development community, you'd see that there's a lot more art than meets the eye. In order for a game to be comfortably playable, it takes more than a physics engine and a few nice sprites.
What I ended up learning as I made more games is that you don't need to model a universe to make the player thing you have. The Elite series, for example, had a pretty convincing picture of an entire universe on a 386, but it does so through design, rather than through horsepower.
Really, sit back and think about it, and you'll see that besides major paradigm shifts in graphics tech which allowed new worlds to be created(Atari->nes, 2d->3d), most really fun and new game experiences didn't rely on heavy CPU power to pull through. Half-Life 2 was a great game, but the physics stuff that everyone loved so much was old hat to people who had seen "Trespasser" a decade prior, running on a P133. The important difference wasn't in the amount of CPU power being used for the game elements, it's how those game elements are used to create an experience. Trespasser took an amazing physics engine and basically used it in a bad Wolf 3D clone. It was a terrible game. Half-Life 2, on the other hand, takes those elements and throws them at an interesting world, letting you do some things that are really fun and cool.
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You misspelled 'Riiiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!'.
All Sony really has to do is use the real time weapon swap to flip the DS and the Wii and hit the weak point for massive damage. I think maybe Sony's brother spilled coke on the controller so it's L and R buttons aren't working.
Since the space suit is already designed to handle a vacuum, why not make it capable of 'docking' with an airlock so the suit never comes inside, and the astronaut just climbs in and out of it at his or her own leisure?
Just because someone is left-wing doesn't mean that is the only factor in every decision. Otherwise, people ought to just kill themselves, because they're not really human anyway.
Learning is always a 2-way street. The point where you complain is the point where you bring your paper with you after class and ask for help understanding what you did wrong. If you get help, bam. You'll likely get a good solution.
I stuck around after class quite a bit in school and tried to master everything I was told to learn. Learning that you can do this pays dividends later, because you can ask questions about other stuff too. I asked a lot of questions about college level maths (unintentionally) when I was in high school because I was playing with programming at the time and wanted to do something cool. I didn't always get an answer, often I ended up out of the teachers field, but judging from the grades I got in those classes, I'd say they're excited to have someone who is willing and interested in learning, and interested in taking personal responsibility for their learning.
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This discussion reminds me of that kids in the hall skit where the homeless bums are sitting around on the street going "Oh, we're so hungry! What could we possibly eat? Oh! I know! We can eat our university degrees! Ah! Delicious theology!"
I don't know what to make of the connection.
Lovely rant, but it doesn't actually mean anything.
To paraphrase, 'people in these fields think they can compete in these fields, so they must be smart.'
As for the rest, I think you forget that a lot of the users of this site are pretty well educated. It's not just paper engineers in the IT field.
Nihilism is a wonderful first principle. It's the most honest of all the first principles because it doesn't require a human to be around to be considered true, and the most equal because without value, meaning, or sense, there's no reason to place one human or one species or one planet over another.
Remember children, if we don't violate privacy so violently that she's rocking back and forth in foetal position in the corner begging for her mommy as we wait for our erections to recharge so we can violate her again, the terrorists have already won.
Heil.
As opposed to how things are now, where they just have the de-facto standard for commercial development.
Unlike web browsers and media players, compilers and dev tools actually have something to do with an operating system, and I think devs would be happy, rather than upset, if they were included.
of course, if you couldn't remove them, like windows media player and internet explorer, then I could see an issue. You know, because like an operating system doesn't actually need an integrated web browser, media player, or compiler suite to work.
True it can be a hassle, but it's not as bad as it used to be. IE7 in particular does a pretty good job of locking down things like the 'gator installs without you knowing on sphosting.com pages' issue.
The irony there is that if you use that second definition, then I'm running Linux. It's Windows XP, but all the tools I use are open source. I've got firefox and openoffice, I develop using the gnu tools running on mingw and msys, and basically, a tonne of the same software I'd use in Linux if that's the kernel I used.
Granted, I do use the windows shell instead of x11, but really -- x11 is the single greatest weakness of OSS platforms at the moment, in my opinion. It's fine if you want to dick around with configuration files to get stuff working, but problematic otherwise.
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking "Gee, it would be awesome to use a Mac at work. Let's see... Well, I've got Autocad, which doesn't exist for mac. Oh. I've got a big samba network that'll be a pain to access with the Mac. Oh. I've got a corporate intranet which can only be accessed with IE7. Oh. Finally, I've got a few dozen scripts I've written in FreeBASIC, which doesn't exist for Mac. Oh. Most of those arguements actually exist for Linux, too.
It was about there that I decided that I'd best get used to Windows, because I'm going to be staring at it for a while.
What's he saying about our President? How DARE he?
I was going to blast you, but you have a point. There are a number of ways to protect against most of the more difficult problems of a Windows system in a windows network, and most of them scale pretty well. If you've got any more authority to change things than a helpdesk tech, you've likely got the proper authority to insert certain barriers to the entry of bad software.
"Hey! I'm some jackass paid by Microsoft that in the past has shown that I'm a Jackass! You'd best show my article!"
You know, I know that introspection is important, that one must ask tough questions of himself before ever asking a tough question of someone else, that if you fail to hold yourself to the highest standard that you are refusing yourself the ability to hold others to any standards. The thing is, this is a person who doesn't have anything to do with OSS except being charged with knocking it down.
There might be some interesting questions lurking in there (Though empirical evidence seems to me to show that it's a bunch of smoke and mirrors for the most part), but this is analogous to some idiot walking around going "I don't think this internet fad has legs" - He hasn't really been a part of it, it's his job to be in opposition, so he's completely blind to it.
He's hitting some interesting points by mistake, but it's like someone who watches Dr. Phil for all their philosophical needs trying to converse with a Ph. D in Philosophy. Yes, the pop culture educated person might accidentally fall on some interesting questions, but they're accidents, and he likely thinks he's the first person to ask these questions. The Philosophy doctor, on the other hand, knows thousands of years of philosophy, and when the question is asked, he can go "Well, what you're talking about was covered by these philosophers, In modern theory, the concept is this, and the current consensus according to this philosophy which is considered the most widely accepted today says this. Alternative philosophies say this. There's an answer, but it depends on your point of view.", or something similar. The pop culture educated person will likely think the Philosophy Ph. D is just trying to show how smart he is at this point, but that road isn't relevant to this discussion.
Actually, I was talking about my field of work, Instrumentation and control engineering.
I haven't been on the job for too long, but just making it through college has given me a lot of knowledge that's sort of 'black magic' to a lot of different people from a lot of different fields.
To be fair, I don't think Bush has any sexual perversions to speak of. He's much more the "Send tens of thousands of America's sons off to die in a red herring of a war against an irrelevant dictator, a war whose purpose is so enigmatic that the 'everything in the past 100 years has been caused by oil and oil alone' crowd actually gets airtime while tens of thousands of innocent civilians die" type.
What if we're 24 year olds, but qualified and skilled professionals in our field?
THAT FUCKER WAS PRETENDING TO BE ME! I'LL SUE!
And the reason for the caps is that I'm yelling. It's the appropriate response to a person who not only lied about being a tenured professor of theology, but stole my name.
You make a good point I hadn't thought of before. If this stuff is both physically abraisive and chemically active, it might be a constant struggle to keep it outside and the air inside.
Lime Kilns and recausticizing plants in paper mills are usually just slathered in lime dust, which turns into a strong base when exposed to moisture, and eats away at everything. If we can design a recaust plant that you could eat a meal in without dying violently, that would be good practice for a long-term moon base.
Microsoft-sama
Fix'd.
Oh, Gaming is an art form, but most people mistake the other artforms that go into making it for the art form itself. It's like saying that the art of a film is the costumes, sets, and musical accompaniment. The art of film is separate and distinct from these things, things like the acting, the editing, the writing in the context of a film. These things don't just make a movie noteworthy for snobs, they're important if you'd like to have a film that's fun to watch.
Game design has a similar art all it's own. If you had to play as many games by amateurs as I have being part of an indie game development community, you'd see that there's a lot more art than meets the eye. In order for a game to be comfortably playable, it takes more than a physics engine and a few nice sprites.
What I ended up learning as I made more games is that you don't need to model a universe to make the player thing you have. The Elite series, for example, had a pretty convincing picture of an entire universe on a 386, but it does so through design, rather than through horsepower.
Really, sit back and think about it, and you'll see that besides major paradigm shifts in graphics tech which allowed new worlds to be created(Atari->nes, 2d->3d), most really fun and new game experiences didn't rely on heavy CPU power to pull through. Half-Life 2 was a great game, but the physics stuff that everyone loved so much was old hat to people who had seen "Trespasser" a decade prior, running on a P133. The important difference wasn't in the amount of CPU power being used for the game elements, it's how those game elements are used to create an experience. Trespasser took an amazing physics engine and basically used it in a bad Wolf 3D clone. It was a terrible game. Half-Life 2, on the other hand, takes those elements and throws them at an interesting world, letting you do some things that are really fun and cool.
What would some Cree fellow have to do with it?
You misspelled 'Riiiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!'.
All Sony really has to do is use the real time weapon swap to flip the DS and the Wii and hit the weak point for massive damage. I think maybe Sony's brother spilled coke on the controller so it's L and R buttons aren't working.
Since the space suit is already designed to handle a vacuum, why not make it capable of 'docking' with an airlock so the suit never comes inside, and the astronaut just climbs in and out of it at his or her own leisure?
If they're just still breaking the law after 50 years, why would you think they're going to find a legitimate alternative?
Just because someone is left-wing doesn't mean that is the only factor in every decision. Otherwise, people ought to just kill themselves, because they're not really human anyway.
Learning is always a 2-way street. The point where you complain is the point where you bring your paper with you after class and ask for help understanding what you did wrong. If you get help, bam. You'll likely get a good solution.
I stuck around after class quite a bit in school and tried to master everything I was told to learn. Learning that you can do this pays dividends later, because you can ask questions about other stuff too. I asked a lot of questions about college level maths (unintentionally) when I was in high school because I was playing with programming at the time and wanted to do something cool. I didn't always get an answer, often I ended up out of the teachers field, but judging from the grades I got in those classes, I'd say they're excited to have someone who is willing and interested in learning, and interested in taking personal responsibility for their learning.
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1. a distinct portion of written or printed matter dealing with a particular idea, usually beginning with an indentation on a new line.
2. a paragraph mark.
3. a note, item, or brief article, as in a newspaper.
-verb (used with object)
4. to divide into paragraphs.
5. to write or publish paragraphs about, as in a newspaper.
6. to express in a paragraph.