No, no you don't get it. The *effect* of the GPL is that it's not possible to do certain things with it, namely take the source and make it non-free. The reason why this *effect* has been created is to protest and counter copyright protected proprietary software. I suggest you read some of the stuff on the FSF's site, gnu.org.
How long ago was that? Hm... 11 or 12 years ago. Well guess what, apart from the network multiplayer stuff, it still beats Everquest and compares quite well to QuakeIII or what have you in terms of playability, me thinks. Gee, I wish I could find it and play it on some emulator. And it fitted in 1Meg of ram and a few floppies... amazing.
From what he said, printing out a private email on the company's laser printer (value: $0.01) and taking it home would be the same as stealing the Statue of Liberty. Well it makes total sense. He must be a libertarian.
Also, if we're talking about grass, it tends to promote paranoia, so it's a vicious cycle. It's just as well that those people stay out of the workforce, though. They're fricking burnouts and I don't want them dragging everyone else down in my company.
A few *really* good coders I know are heavy pot smokers. Personally, I don't like haschich. Makes me sick. I also know of a few top level execs who are alcoholic. That's worse. But, as far as I can tell, they do their job quite well. Would they fail to, that would be sufficient grounds to fire them anyway. So what's the point?
I used not to have this opinion. I used to work with a guy who was a heavy pot smoker. We used to work in an early dot com, a few years ago. The guy had been hired as a journalist to write columns for the website, mostly. He was cool and nice, but spoke sooo slowly it was scary. Turned out we could'nt find competent HTMLers. So he started doing HTMLers. I left, they had no programmers, so he had to pick up the Unix admin, he had to install NT boxen, he had to pick up some half assed coldfusion script and correct my hairy perl scripts from 5 years ago.
Now he's been hired for good money as a programmer in another company. He still smokes as much as before. He would turn all the chemicals alarms ringing and flashing if he were to pass a drug test to apply in a US company. And he does a fucking great job for someone who had barely ever touched a computer a few years ago.
With some exceptions (where others' security is at risk, like pilots, etc...), it is illegal to request such tests here (France). I believe they face jail time for illegal practice of medicine if they don't do it with a registered MD, or if they did, the doctor would lose his license (and maybe go to jail as well). On top of that, with current computer privacy laws (which are actually around 20 year old), whoever is keeping this data (test results for instance) faces up to 3 years of jail time if they store it in a computer somehow (strange, but having it just on plain paper does'nt count) and they 1- don't inform you that they're storing it, 2- dont't give you access to the information or allow you to correct it and possibly delete it, 3- don't register their database with the CNIL (Commission on Computers and Freedom).
I find those test thingies quite scary. I would just plain refuse them, personally. Call me ideological -- but if everybody caves in, things like that will never change. Plus, as a sought after computer geek, it's your responsibility to do this. By doing this, you might force companies to change their whole policy -- do they really want to lose a candidate they desperately need for some useless and immoral policy? -- and make the world a better place for less lucky persons who don't have that bargaining power.
The NiMH battery in my canon A50 lasts long enough for me. It just has one problem: it always run out when you don't expect it. Tough shit. Easy solution: travel with an extra battery. Problem: I can't buy it anywhere. My brother tried to call Canon and co... to no avail.
There is no catch-22. COPYLEFT was created as a protest to abusive COPYRIGHT law (to put it simply), and it uses such copyright laws to subvert them from the inside. If there was no COPYRIGHT abusive laws, there would'nt have been the need for COPYLEFT. Thus it would'nt have existed. Therefore accusing the GPL of hypocrisy as some people did in this thread is not just fallacious, insulting and libellous, it's just plain dumb.
I'm a BeOS-zealot most of the time, and it has taken a little compromising of views to reach this opinion. I've never been a real big fan of the GPL, but mainly because of the force it carries, given to it by copyright law and IP.
For the third time in this thread, I have to repeat it as it seems so many idiots keep forgetting the basics of the Free Software Movement and bash Stallman by making false accusations against him... GPL is the implementation of the concept of COPYLEFT, which is an attack and a joke against COPYRIGHT. You're allowed to do basically anything you want with GPL software. You're just not allowed to restrict other users.
If you had read RMS's writings, explaining *why* he had created the GPL... and why it's called copyleft for instead. Copyleft is about using copyright to fuck itself. So copyrighters can sue us because we share with friends? Well if you're allowed by law to pull that bullshit on us, then we'll pull the same bullshit on you. You're not insightful, you're just short sighted and ignorant. And you got everything wrong.
Ponder this: If he never had been able to crack the machine, you would never had heard of the story.
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He never says the name of the ISP he claims to work for.
Maybe because what he (supposedly) did, while understandable, is actually illegal?
No contact info provided for him at all as far as I could see, no name, no email, no icq, nothing... not even a fake hotmail email address or something...
Maybe because what he did is illegal?
He is hosting this site on some crappy free web server.
What about the following scenario: he finds a Windows file sharing wide open, he replaces one of their often used files with a BackOrifice trojan, the clueless spammers double click on it, et voila. Sounds perfectly possible to me! Now the whole story could be a hoax, but it's still completely possible. Never underestimate the stupidity of a spammer!
I know how it works in the US (I don't think I implied anything about this anyway in my post). That being said, while I understand your concern about the caller paying the extra, the scheme we have makes sense, simply because:
The overcharged cell phone numbers are clearly identifiable (they start with 06 instead of 0x where 1It discourages phone spammers -- no, I'm not interested in buying anything, and I would be upset about paying for advertising. Indeed, I've never had any direct marketers call me on my mobile phone, whereas I know that they have tried to call me several times at home (though it's clear far from being as bad here as in the US).
I have some good news for you. The FCC has ordered that the billing system will be changed to the way the enlightened countries outside the US have it. You pay for the calls you make, not the ones you receive.:-) We always had that system here and it means that alot of people carry a cell phone only to be called on and hardly ever use it to call with. This keeps the monthly bill down alot.
Well actually most people here (France) have a cell phone to call other cell phones. Calling a cell phone from a land line is a complete rip off ($0.50 / minute?) whereas calling nation wide or cell phones FROM a cell phone is very cheap, esp. with "forfait", which gets as low as $0.10 or something a minute (I have 240 min a month for $30, but I don't even use half of it).
It's amazing to notice that the idea of Public Transports is completely alien to americans. Oh and BTW, thanks guys for all the car-related pollution you're farting in OUR atmosphere.
... are, at least THEORETICALLY illegal in Europe according to the Munich convention, 1972. The European Patent Office, however, has illegally granted quite a number of those. Anyway, since those patents are not legal, Faunhofer/Thomson has no legal foot to stand on to threaten that guy. It's your usual corporate bullying again. And no your post is not interesting, no matter what moderators have drunk today.
Fix that indent-based block structure for fuck's sake. The only reason they do it is because it's easier to newbies. Fsck newbies! Well ok not necessarily, but they could at least offer an alternative for us ancient Perl programmers.
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No, no you don't get it. The *effect* of the GPL is that it's not possible to do certain things with it, namely take the source and make it non-free. The reason why this *effect* has been created is to protest and counter copyright protected proprietary software. I suggest you read some of the stuff on the FSF's site, gnu.org.
Forget it. It's probably COBOL code.
If it was'nt for fascistic[1] existing copyright laws, COPYLEFT would not have been invented.
[1] They're at least as much fascist that the teenager that copies a CD is a 'pirate'.
How long ago was that? Hm ... 11 or 12 years ago. Well guess what, apart from the network multiplayer stuff, it still beats Everquest and compares quite well to QuakeIII or what have you in terms of playability, me thinks. Gee, I wish I could find it and play it on some emulator. And it fitted in 1Meg of ram and a few floppies ... amazing.
From what he said, printing out a private email on the company's laser printer (value: $0.01) and taking it home would be the same as stealing the Statue of Liberty. Well it makes total sense. He must be a libertarian.
Also, if we're talking about grass, it tends to promote paranoia, so it's a vicious cycle. It's just as well that those people stay out of the workforce, though. They're fricking burnouts and I don't want them dragging everyone else down in my company.
A few *really* good coders I know are heavy pot smokers. Personally, I don't like haschich. Makes me sick. I also know of a few top level execs who are alcoholic. That's worse. But, as far as I can tell, they do their job quite well. Would they fail to, that would be sufficient grounds to fire them anyway. So what's the point?
I used not to have this opinion. I used to work with a guy who was a heavy pot smoker. We used to work in an early dot com, a few years ago. The guy had been hired as a journalist to write columns for the website, mostly. He was cool and nice, but spoke sooo slowly it was scary. Turned out we could'nt find competent HTMLers. So he started doing HTMLers. I left, they had no programmers, so he had to pick up the Unix admin, he had to install NT boxen, he had to pick up some half assed coldfusion script and correct my hairy perl scripts from 5 years ago.
Now he's been hired for good money as a programmer in another company. He still smokes as much as before. He would turn all the chemicals alarms ringing and flashing if he were to pass a drug test to apply in a US company. And he does a fucking great job for someone who had barely ever touched a computer a few years ago.
So your point was?
With some exceptions (where others' security is at risk, like pilots, etc ...), it is illegal to request such tests here (France). I believe they face jail time for illegal practice of medicine if they don't do it with a registered MD, or if they did, the doctor would lose his license (and maybe go to jail as well). On top of that, with current computer privacy laws (which are actually around 20 year old), whoever is keeping this data (test results for instance) faces up to 3 years of jail time if they store it in a computer somehow (strange, but having it just on plain paper does'nt count) and they 1- don't inform you that they're storing it, 2- dont't give you access to the information or allow you to correct it and possibly delete it, 3- don't register their database with the CNIL (Commission on Computers and Freedom).
I find those test thingies quite scary. I would just plain refuse them, personally. Call me ideological -- but if everybody caves in, things like that will never change. Plus, as a sought after computer geek, it's your responsibility to do this. By doing this, you might force companies to change their whole policy -- do they really want to lose a candidate they desperately need for some useless and immoral policy? -- and make the world a better place for less lucky persons who don't have that bargaining power.
Think about it. It's a matter of honour.
The NiMH battery in my canon A50 lasts long enough for me. It just has one problem: it always run out when you don't expect it. Tough shit. Easy solution: travel with an extra battery. Problem: I can't buy it anywhere. My brother tried to call Canon and co ... to no avail.
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There is no catch-22. COPYLEFT was created as a protest to abusive COPYRIGHT law (to put it simply), and it uses such copyright laws to subvert them from the inside. If there was no COPYRIGHT abusive laws, there would'nt have been the need for COPYLEFT. Thus it would'nt have existed. Therefore accusing the GPL of hypocrisy as some people did in this thread is not just fallacious, insulting and libellous, it's just plain dumb.
I'm a BeOS-zealot most of the time, and it has taken a little compromising of views to reach this opinion. I've never been a real big fan of the GPL, but mainly because of the force it carries, given to it by copyright law and IP.
For the third time in this thread, I have to repeat it as it seems so many idiots keep forgetting the basics of the Free Software Movement and bash Stallman by making false accusations against him ... GPL is the implementation of the concept of COPYLEFT, which is an attack and a joke against COPYRIGHT. You're allowed to do basically anything you want with GPL software. You're just not allowed to restrict other users.
GPL was created BECAUSE of copyright law. Non sequitur.
If you had read RMS's writings, explaining *why* he had created the GPL ... and why it's called copyleft for instead. Copyleft is about using copyright to fuck itself. So copyrighters can sue us because we share with friends? Well if you're allowed by law to pull that bullshit on us, then we'll pull the same bullshit on you. You're not insightful, you're just short sighted and ignorant. And you got everything wrong.
What would have happened if Metallica had said: "man napster is great, it rocks!"...slashdot would have a whole different attitude.
IANAH[1], but it is indeed true that had confederates had a bigger army, they might indeed have kicked the yankees' ass.
[1] I Am Not An Historian
Yeah, but he will go to paradise, and you won't.
Ponder this: If he never had been able to crack the machine, you would never had heard of the story.
He never says the name of the ISP he claims to work for.
Maybe because what he (supposedly) did, while understandable, is actually illegal?
No contact info provided for him at all as far as I could see, no name, no email, no icq, nothing... not even a fake hotmail email address or something...
Maybe because what he did is illegal?
He is hosting this site on some crappy free web server.Maybe because what he did is illegal?
What about the following scenario: he finds a Windows file sharing wide open, he replaces one of their often used files with a BackOrifice trojan, the clueless spammers double click on it, et voila. Sounds perfectly possible to me! Now the whole story could be a hoax, but it's still completely possible. Never underestimate the stupidity of a spammer!
... but it's entirely possible. Ever heard of Back Orifice? There you go. It will allow you to take nice screenshots.
I know how it works in the US (I don't think I implied anything about this anyway in my post). That being said, while I understand your concern about the caller paying the extra, the scheme we have makes sense, simply because:
I have some good news for you. The FCC has ordered that the billing system will be changed to the way the enlightened countries outside the US have it. You pay for the calls you make, not the ones you receive. :-) We always had that system here and it means that alot of people carry a cell phone only to be called on and hardly ever use it to call with. This keeps the monthly bill down alot.
Well actually most people here (France) have a cell phone to call other cell phones. Calling a cell phone from a land line is a complete rip off ($0.50 / minute?) whereas calling nation wide or cell phones FROM a cell phone is very cheap, esp. with "forfait", which gets as low as $0.10 or something a minute (I have 240 min a month for $30, but I don't even use half of it).
It's amazing to notice that the idea of Public Transports is completely alien to americans. Oh and BTW, thanks guys for all the car-related pollution you're farting in OUR atmosphere.
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... are, at least THEORETICALLY illegal in Europe according to the Munich convention, 1972. The European Patent Office, however, has illegally granted quite a number of those. Anyway, since those patents are not legal, Faunhofer/Thomson has no legal foot to stand on to threaten that guy. It's your usual corporate bullying again. And no your post is not interesting, no matter what moderators have drunk today.
Fix that indent-based block structure for fuck's sake. The only reason they do it is because it's easier to newbies. Fsck newbies! Well ok not necessarily, but they could at least offer an alternative for us ancient Perl programmers.