They call it "selective enforcement" or "discriminatory enforcement". Very effective and not much defense against it. See http://www.moralityinmedia.org/nolc/olrChapters/se lectiveEnforcement.htm
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Couldn't figure out just why in the world Palm would buy Be. BeIA is one possibility that suggests it wasn't just a bizarre act.
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While you are wearing your "user" hat for a minute, I just have to ask, are you a Microsoft employee? Or an employee of an organization that has a close relationship with Microsoft?
Let me take it off and look.
It says "Ass". Same thing as "end" so I must be an end user when wearing it. I do have other hats but I'll put the ass hat back on.
I usually tend to view myself as a de facto employee of the company that happens to be my client at the time. I have a de jure organization, true, but its not the most important thing in my calculations. I guess my order of importance is 1. Myself, 2. My customer and 3. My boss. You can see easily how I've be able to avoid moving into management I think.:-)
To answer your specific question(s), no I am not an employee of Microsoft or of a company that has a close relationship with Microsoft. Given my priorities outlined above I don't even see how it would make much of a difference.
I my particular case, and I wouldn't want to generalize from that particular, the idea that some company I happen to be an employee of would determine my opinions is, well, quaint. It rings of things long past where employee loyalty was an expected exchange of lifetime employment.
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I was referring to the consumer, the user community as the Industry. I've yet to meet a user who wants the new subscription-based model that MS was pushing for XP (but seems to have backed away from, for now). Users on the corporate desktop aren't looking forward to a new OS while they are still either planning their W2K migration, in the middle of it. Very few IT organizations have completed a W2K deployment.
Hmm, we still don't have this Industry thing nailed down yet. You mention "corporate desktop" and "IT organizations" and at the same time equate this with "the consumer, the user community". I do not.
In fact I seem to recall that the motivations of IT organizations are frequently at odds with what I call the true end users.
For example I have had some experience selling platform independent software solutions to organizations. There was a fundamental disagreement between what the organization wanted and what the end user wanted. The organization wanted an identical application that would run the same on all user machines. The users wanted and applications that would look the same as all the other applications on their machines.
Another example is from the release of a couple of Microsoft products in the 90s that caused a fairly obvious flare up between what motivated users and what motivated the IT organizations that supported them.
The first product was Access. This resulted in a widespread demystification of the role of DBA and gave the users the opportunity to fight back against what IT was telling them couldn't be done. It helped move the users' expectations upward with regard to what they could expect from the DBA folks in the IT organization with regard to both the timeliness of solutions as well as how cheap those solutions should be. I recall a great deal of DBA bad mouthing of the product but perhaps I mis-remember:-).
The second product was Windows for Workgroups (Windows 3.11). My gosh the howls from IT support! I mean the users were actually sharing things without needing to get in line and wait on the inclinations (and charge backs) from their IT organizations which followed rather lengthy justification processes. Relying again on my faulty memory, I seem to also remember that many IT organizations actually banned the use of the product. Too late though because once again the users' level of expectations was set higher for what they wanted out of the IT network people.
On another topic let me congratulate you on finally meeting a user who wants the subscription based model of software - namely me. Part of my standard presentation blurb in the early 90's said "you don't own software today you subscribe to it". But it was a cranky subscription where you actually had to go down to the store, if you even knew about it, pick up the latest issue after paying a fairly hefty one-time charge, and install it on your machine. I'm glad the subscription model, which was already in effect then though poorly, is improving by being both more accessible through the internet and more smooth.
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What is it with these high numbered/. accounts with the canned straight-from-the-mouth of MS spinmeister opinions? With a hotmail address, no less!
The high numbered account is because I didn't have anything I wanted to say over the last couple of years enough to register. Or if I did register I've forgotten the particulars.
The hotmail address is for two primary reasons. The first is that I don't always want my company to read all the email that I send or receive. The second reason is that I want an email service that makes headlines if it is down. I have a couple of other email addresses from services that don't make headlines when they go down and you're never sure what's going on or when it will be fixed.
There are two secondary reasons for the hotmail address. The first is that I can get to it easily by just finding a browser anywhere on the planet. The second is that a hotmail address is needed for a MS Passport and it can't hurt to have a few spare passports around can it?
The canned straight-from-the-mouth of MS spinmeisters opinions happen to be mine as well except in my case they are facts:-) . It is possible for both angels and devils to believe some of the same things to be true, no?
Your use of "industry" needs to be broken into finer distinctions, IMO.
The software industry, the hardware industry and the users. The software industry isn't enthusiastic about having more capabilities bundled into wXP since that's less that they get to provide. The hardware industry, at this particular point in time, would welcome anything that would help move hardware through the channels. The users would welcome more capability in their OS, bundling if you will, and a more reliable platform which wXP provides.
So 2/3rds of the "industry" would not want wXP delayed. Those that see themselves as competitors to Microsoft and who spend so much time, it seems, bashing Microsoft (which is, face it, an easy target in some circles) rather than thinking about how they can improve their own offerings would want wXP delayed since it appears to be an excellent product.
With my "user" hat firmly in place, I have no sympathy with the software industry trying to compete in court rather than in the marketplace.
I don't know about Linux Mandrake but I'm running the wXP RC1 and I'm impressed.
It's responsive and feels solid. It's also backed by a substantial corporation that cares if it "sucks". This self-same corporation is itself subject to close scrutiny by political and technical practitioners and observers so wXP will probably have most of its flaws struck off pretty quickly. This corporation's products are also under near continuous security attacks by some talented people so I'd expect xWP to be pretty secure in short order. (Along the lines of "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger.")
all of the stuff integrated together. Don't want to have to worry about doing different deals with different vendors. The more things are integrated in the better I like it. The more the technology disappears the better I like it. "Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them. - Whitehead"
Ship it!
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Story has squat to do with Microsoft. It is one of replace a Unix infrastructure with a Linux one.
It is a "bye, bye Sun" story.
They call it "selective enforcement" or "discriminatory enforcement". Very effective and not much defense against it. See http://www.moralityinmedia.org/nolc/olrChapters/se lectiveEnforcement.htm
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I don't see how it can "look...much better". There is nothing to see. It is not even vaporware - it is vacuumware.
This link
V I: www.washtimes.com/national/20010730-13752166.htm+r ussian+scramjet&hl=en)
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:JgNme-1tK
to a google cache (don't you just love those?) describes a for sure Russian scramject test this year and possibly two tests as long ago as 1995.
You had to read pretty far down to find out that this is also a "Linux Replaces Sun" story.
Couldn't figure out just why in the world Palm would buy Be. BeIA is one possibility that suggests it wasn't just a bizarre act.
Let me take it off and look.
It says "Ass". Same thing as "end" so I must be an end user when wearing it. I do have other hats but I'll put the ass hat back on.
I usually tend to view myself as a de facto employee of the company that happens to be my client at the time. I have a de jure organization, true, but its not the most important thing in my calculations. I guess my order of importance is 1. Myself, 2. My customer and 3. My boss. You can see easily how I've be able to avoid moving into management I think. :-)
To answer your specific question(s), no I am not an employee of Microsoft or of a company that has a close relationship with Microsoft. Given my priorities outlined above I don't even see how it would make much of a difference.
I my particular case, and I wouldn't want to generalize from that particular, the idea that some company I happen to be an employee of would determine my opinions is, well, quaint. It rings of things long past where employee loyalty was an expected exchange of lifetime employment.
Hmm, we still don't have this Industry thing nailed down yet. You mention "corporate desktop" and "IT organizations" and at the same time equate this with "the consumer, the user community". I do not.
In fact I seem to recall that the motivations of IT organizations are frequently at odds with what I call the true end users.
For example I have had some experience selling platform independent software solutions to organizations. There was a fundamental disagreement between what the organization wanted and what the end user wanted. The organization wanted an identical application that would run the same on all user machines. The users wanted and applications that would look the same as all the other applications on their machines.
Another example is from the release of a couple of Microsoft products in the 90s that caused a fairly obvious flare up between what motivated users and what motivated the IT organizations that supported them.
The first product was Access. This resulted in a widespread demystification of the role of DBA and gave the users the opportunity to fight back against what IT was telling them couldn't be done. It helped move the users' expectations upward with regard to what they could expect from the DBA folks in the IT organization with regard to both the timeliness of solutions as well as how cheap those solutions should be. I recall a great deal of DBA bad mouthing of the product but perhaps I mis-remember :-).
The second product was Windows for Workgroups (Windows 3.11). My gosh the howls from IT support! I mean the users were actually sharing things without needing to get in line and wait on the inclinations (and charge backs) from their IT organizations which followed rather lengthy justification processes. Relying again on my faulty memory, I seem to also remember that many IT organizations actually banned the use of the product. Too late though because once again the users' level of expectations was set higher for what they wanted out of the IT network people.
On another topic let me congratulate you on finally meeting a user who wants the subscription based model of software - namely me. Part of my standard presentation blurb in the early 90's said "you don't own software today you subscribe to it". But it was a cranky subscription where you actually had to go down to the store, if you even knew about it, pick up the latest issue after paying a fairly hefty one-time charge, and install it on your machine. I'm glad the subscription model, which was already in effect then though poorly, is improving by being both more accessible through the internet and more smooth.
The high numbered account is because I didn't have anything I wanted to say over the last couple of years enough to register. Or if I did register I've forgotten the particulars.
The hotmail address is for two primary reasons. The first is that I don't always want my company to read all the email that I send or receive. The second reason is that I want an email service that makes headlines if it is down. I have a couple of other email addresses from services that don't make headlines when they go down and you're never sure what's going on or when it will be fixed.
There are two secondary reasons for the hotmail address. The first is that I can get to it easily by just finding a browser anywhere on the planet. The second is that a hotmail address is needed for a MS Passport and it can't hurt to have a few spare passports around can it?
The canned straight-from-the-mouth of MS spinmeisters opinions happen to be mine as well except in my case they are facts :-) . It is possible for both angels and devils to believe some of the same things to be true, no?
The software industry, the hardware industry and the users. The software industry isn't enthusiastic about having more capabilities bundled into wXP since that's less that they get to provide. The hardware industry, at this particular point in time, would welcome anything that would help move hardware through the channels. The users would welcome more capability in their OS, bundling if you will, and a more reliable platform which wXP provides.
So 2/3rds of the "industry" would not want wXP delayed. Those that see themselves as competitors to Microsoft and who spend so much time, it seems, bashing Microsoft (which is, face it, an easy target in some circles) rather than thinking about how they can improve their own offerings would want wXP delayed since it appears to be an excellent product.
With my "user" hat firmly in place, I have no sympathy with the software industry trying to compete in court rather than in the marketplace.
I don't know about Linux Mandrake but I'm running the wXP RC1 and I'm impressed. It's responsive and feels solid. It's also backed by a substantial corporation that cares if it "sucks". This self-same corporation is itself subject to close scrutiny by political and technical practitioners and observers so wXP will probably have most of its flaws struck off pretty quickly. This corporation's products are also under near continuous security attacks by some talented people so I'd expect xWP to be pretty secure in short order. (Along the lines of "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger.")
all of the stuff integrated together. Don't want to have to worry about doing different deals with different vendors. The more things are integrated in the better I like it. The more the technology disappears the better I like it. "Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them. - Whitehead" Ship it!