Thatcher has a degree in science. She fucked over science big-time. She may not have invented it but she brought to birth the culture that's in place, the culture that says long-term research isn't good.
I agree but it leaves out a lot. You've pared down the truth to a microscopic data-point, which is hardly the "truth" as it exists outside that microscopic data-point. Once you've gained your toe-hold there, your one shining example, you expect the rest of the world to fall in line. You've hacked away the rest of the jungle to give us something which may be useful but, to me, is not that interesting. It's like Newtonian V Einsteinian physics.
I like the current system that tags certain articles controversial. One way of insuring accountability is to ban easily obtained accounts, or having identity checked and then tracking the changes made. But then it wouldn't be wikipedia would.
Even hard-copy publications like the Encylopaedia Britannica has bias.
I don't believe there is such a thing as "the truth". Just doesn't exist. I think the best you can get is to identify the changer, mark articles which are controversial as controversial. Certainly sensitive articles like Kerry's or Bush's should be marked as such, possibly banning editing during sensitive times. These are fine-tuning issues. I think the basic model is sound, and based on a well-founded historical precedent.
I regard the original large-edition OED as the ultimate volunteer-effort. In fact, I don't think the original could have been completed without volunteer effort. Compare and contrast the OED with simmilar projects in other countries i.e. Sweden which, as far as I am aware, use a more academic-type effort to try achieve a similar aim as the OED but with less success in that they're prover harder to complete with this methodology. Most of these projects are works in progress after a very long time.
Actually, given that the current WH crew is a bunch of god-botherers, they prolly think that jesus did tell them to do it. Punish all you sinners.
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You install Yahoo once, and you can never get rid of the crap. Bleargh!!!
I watch clips from Jon Stewarts Daily Show from a LiveJournal feed. It's very entertaining, but I slice it with my friends list. I think that yahoo wants to be everywhere. Yahoo won't want me creating my own mix-n-match entertainment. Typically, they'll want complete control, trying to make me watch what they want me to watch and at times that are convenient to them. I want to watch what I want when I want it. Notice how the two aims conflict. They'll fuck it up big-time. It'll be like television but on far smaller screens. It'll suck.
this is exactly what this article is. Google and Linux are gaining programmer mind-share so to counter this, MS has to try and *show* developers that they can be as cool as the new kids on the block. It's mutton dressed as lamb, it's an old hooker with new mascara. It won't fit, it don't work. Why? Allchin is facing the sack next year. QED.
You gotta hand it to MS. In this case they did't *directly* attack their competitors, they sneakily set up a new battleground just slightly outside the perceived domain of their competitors so now Adobe et al will have to come to them. Neat. Also, they pitch it at the PHB's budget, although not in an overt way that upsets their mainstay, the developer, although the subtext is plain to see for those with eyes to see:
PHB: Ooooh a new tool that lets Designers have more power. Maybe we can without a few of those Pesky Programmers(C).
Designers: Oooooh, something that lets me implement MY GRAND DESIGN without those Pesky Programmers(C) interfering with my GLORIOUS CREATION.
Programmer: Over my dead body.
My guess is that they'll try and do without the programmers, chaos will ensue and the status quo will be reinstated a few expensive months down the line. I've seen the same with Macromedia. It'll be OK for a prototype of the interface. Anything else will still require CodeMonkeys to fit it all together.
I'll laugh myself silly if this required *more* programmers and more expensive licenses and bigger and better lock-in.
Most people don't know the names of constellations. You might as well say "that bunch of stars up there".
"Big Dipper" or "The Plough"? WTF? WTH is a "Big Dipper" when it's at home? Most people don't know what a plough looks like - let alone the pre-industrial revolution implement that purports to be Ursa Major. I only know because I studied navigation.
The names of the constellations are useful for Astronomers. That's it.
I agree that there should be a better interface between scientists and lay-people. Introducing archaic descriptions won't help.
I suppose it's a sign of the times that I now have to endure this sort of remark and thread everytime a science article is raised on slashdot *sigh* Don't get me started on the creationist "arguments".
I guess I see it as a deliberate noise-generator by the religious so that most attempts at discussion of science becomes embroilled in discussions about science rather than the science at hand. There's not much of an indepth discussion on slashdot; these arseholes are determined to sink what little there is on these topics.
I know I've just done it...but don't feed the trolls again, please. It only satisfies their cravings and, in this case, their larger purpose.
Maybe persistent trolls should be ejected from slashdot? At least it would inconvenience them into getting a new account and fragmenting (i.e. inserting noise into their work).
FTR, the poster incriminates himself with every sentence. Science isn't a set of morals; it's a set of explanations. Science changes because that's the way it works. The poster was shit at science, so he's being persecuted. The economics bit is interesting. Is he saying that all factory owners are atheists? Step forward
Cheney joined the American Enterprise Institute after leaving office in 1993. From 1995 until 2000, he served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton, a Fortune 500 company and market leader in the energy sector. He also sat on the Board of Directors of Procter & Gamble, Union Pacific, and EDS.
From 1977 to 1985 he served as Chief Executive Officer, President, and then Chairman of G.D. Searle & Co., a worldwide pharmaceutical company. The successful turnaround there earned him awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry from the Wall Street Transcript (1980) and Financial World (1981). From 1985 to 1990 he was in private business.
Mr. Rumsfeld served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of General Instrument Corporation from 1990 to 1993. General Instrument Corporation was a leader in broadband transmission, distribution, and access control technologies. Until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense, Mr. Rumsfeld served as Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, Inc., a pharmaceutical company.
* George Bush. Weeell, this guy is pretty much a loser but it seems that he's employed people in oil and gas and "managed" a baseball team. Uh, that's it. Industries not exactly renowned for their ethical practices.
I guess the common factor in all these companies is that none of these companies are particularly ethical in the way they employ people and the way they do business. Or maybe you think christians make better bosses? I cannot say for certain if all slaveowners - on both sides of the Atlantic - were christian but I'm pretty certain that it was the case. In fact, christians profited from the slave-trade as much as anyone else.
Facts never get in the way of a good troll, do they now?
I object to the fact that the IQ tests are treated as immutable laws, scientific and unchangeable. I think they're just a culturally agreed set of tests which measure your ability to do those tests. The philosophy behind the tests that set up the strawman of "Intelligence Quota" belongs to the age of measuring skulls to prove superiority. So, yes, your quote is good.
I object to the people who seem to think that the underclass are an underclass because that's how it's meant to be and who use IQ tests and the like to bolster their threadbare arguments. Indeed, the fact that IQ tests have changed seems to indicate to me cultural factors at work - well of course you could say refinement - but I see nothing in this to suggest a fixed bench mark which is objective and authoritative, a cultural ruler if you will. The Flynn effect is a good counterweight to this crowd.
Incoherent - well, yes. This is slashdot, no? But, hey, that quote seems good, not sure Nietsche can be dismissed just like that though. You did indeed spot the tossed out remark. I was, after all, at work;-)
Why is it such a big deal to learn that the IQ tests are flawed, and are affected by cultural components. The IQ test was invented by men. It's not surprising to learn that women fare less well under tests which exclude a model of their intelligence as well.
During the 60s, IQs amongst well-off white kids in the US went up because of the better post-war diet and economic status.
IQ tests mean nothing except to the stupids who belong to MENSA.
Many years ago when I went to bury my ex-father-in-law (ex in all senses now), I was surprised to discover that photographs had now become embedded in gravestones. Not something I'd seen in UK graveyards before that, and I was brought up helping to dig graves. So yes, these things change.
I think the sound aspect could get annoying to people talking to their deceased relatives so that kind of thing would be banned. BlueTooth headphones possibly?
I'd expect to see solar-panel driven units fairly soon, unless they switch off when the family stop paying.
You could of course record the ultimate "if you are watching this, I shall be dead..." speech and spook your future descendants.
I use the RSS feeds in Firefox to check the status of news items from Le Figaro, BBC and the New York Times.
I also use it to check if there are new items from Slashdot, PennyArcade and Megatokyo. The headlines are usually explicit enough to tell me if I want to go to the website or not, which saves me an important amount of time given that PennyArcade and MegaTokyo both take a while to download even on a corporate network.
Works for me. To me it's just a dynamic bookmark folder in Firefox, think of it like a news-ticker. I agree that RSS is not the second coming, just like "blogs" are just over-inflated home-pages. Although to hear the combatants of Atom V RSS (sometimes boiled down to one mega-corporation against one millionaire), you'd think that the lives of millions were at stake, particularly from the Atom camp. *sigh*
The interesting one is Slashdot. The feed from my work machine works. The feed to to my home machine worked a couple of times and has now stopped, in spite of the crap spouted on the Slashdot apology page on "why the Slashdot RSS feed isn't working for you". Maybe "they" only allow one nibble at a time?
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that should be "free" (as in beer) software.
you need someone to wash the dishes
Kapital!
this "pillows" nonsense...that's just you rich americans boasting again. Just sleep on some bare slate! no germs at all!
Thatcher has a degree in science. She fucked over science big-time. She may not have invented it but she brought to birth the culture that's in place, the culture that says long-term research isn't good.
Roger
...no one can hear you scream. Hang on.
Cheese? Cheese? You compare my acting to cheese? How DARE you!!!! Philistine!!
The Spiders
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I agree but it leaves out a lot. You've pared down the truth to a microscopic data-point, which is hardly the "truth" as it exists outside that microscopic data-point. Once you've gained your toe-hold there, your one shining example, you expect the rest of the world to fall in line. You've hacked away the rest of the jungle to give us something which may be useful but, to me, is not that interesting. It's like Newtonian V Einsteinian physics.
I like the current system that tags certain articles controversial. One way of insuring accountability is to ban easily obtained accounts, or having identity checked and then tracking the changes made. But then it wouldn't be wikipedia would.
Even hard-copy publications like the Encylopaedia Britannica has bias.
I don't believe there is such a thing as "the truth". Just doesn't exist. I think the best you can get is to identify the changer, mark articles which are controversial as controversial. Certainly sensitive articles like Kerry's or Bush's should be marked as such, possibly banning editing during sensitive times. These are fine-tuning issues. I think the basic model is sound, and based on a well-founded historical precedent.
I regard the original large-edition OED as the ultimate volunteer-effort. In fact, I don't think the original could have been completed without volunteer effort. Compare and contrast the OED with simmilar projects in other countries i.e. Sweden which, as far as I am aware, use a more academic-type effort to try achieve a similar aim as the OED but with less success in that they're prover harder to complete with this methodology. Most of these projects are works in progress after a very long time.
Actually, given that the current WH crew is a bunch of god-botherers, they prolly think that jesus did tell them to do it. Punish all you sinners.
You install Yahoo once, and you can never get rid of the crap. Bleargh!!!
I watch clips from Jon Stewarts Daily Show from a LiveJournal feed. It's very entertaining, but I slice it with my friends list. I think that yahoo wants to be everywhere. Yahoo won't want me creating my own mix-n-match entertainment. Typically, they'll want complete control, trying to make me watch what they want me to watch and at times that are convenient to them. I want to watch what I want when I want it. Notice how the two aims conflict. They'll fuck it up big-time. It'll be like television but on far smaller screens. It'll suck.
this is exactly what this article is. Google and Linux are gaining programmer mind-share so to counter this, MS has to try and *show* developers that they can be as cool as the new kids on the block. It's mutton dressed as lamb, it's an old hooker with new mascara. It won't fit, it don't work. Why? Allchin is facing the sack next year. QED.
You gotta hand it to MS. In this case they did't *directly* attack their competitors, they sneakily set up a new battleground just slightly outside the perceived domain of their competitors so now Adobe et al will have to come to them. Neat. Also, they pitch it at the PHB's budget, although not in an overt way that upsets their mainstay, the developer, although the subtext is plain to see for those with eyes to see:
PHB: Ooooh a new tool that lets Designers have more power. Maybe we can without a few of those Pesky Programmers(C).
Designers: Oooooh, something that lets me implement MY GRAND DESIGN without those Pesky Programmers(C) interfering with my GLORIOUS CREATION.
Programmer: Over my dead body.
My guess is that they'll try and do without the programmers, chaos will ensue and the status quo will be reinstated a few expensive months down the line. I've seen the same with Macromedia. It'll be OK for a prototype of the interface. Anything else will still require CodeMonkeys to fit it all together.
I'll laugh myself silly if this required *more* programmers and more expensive licenses and bigger and better lock-in.
This is Silicon Snake-oil with capital Ss.
"rich" == lock-in
Is that, like, LOL, Bloggerdom is the new AOL? OMG. ROFL.
Most people don't know the names of constellations. You might as well say "that bunch of stars up there".
"Big Dipper" or "The Plough"? WTF? WTH is a "Big Dipper" when it's at home? Most people don't know what a plough looks like - let alone the pre-industrial revolution implement that purports to be Ursa Major. I only know because I studied navigation.
The names of the constellations are useful for Astronomers. That's it.
I agree that there should be a better interface between scientists and lay-people. Introducing archaic descriptions won't help.
I suppose it's a sign of the times that I now have to endure this sort of remark and thread everytime a science article is raised on slashdot *sigh* Don't get me started on the creationist "arguments".
I guess I see it as a deliberate noise-generator by the religious so that most attempts at discussion of science becomes embroilled in discussions about science rather than the science at hand. There's not much of an indepth discussion on slashdot; these arseholes are determined to sink what little there is on these topics.
I know I've just done it...but don't feed the trolls again, please. It only satisfies their cravings and, in this case, their larger purpose.
Maybe persistent trolls should be ejected from slashdot? At least it would inconvenience them into getting a new account and fragmenting (i.e. inserting noise into their work).
FTR, the poster incriminates himself with every sentence. Science isn't a set of morals; it's a set of explanations. Science changes because that's the way it works. The poster was shit at science, so he's being persecuted. The economics bit is interesting. Is he saying that all factory owners are atheists? Step forward
* Dick Cheney, ex-head of Halliburton, devout christian, chickenhawk and, oh, boss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney
Cheney joined the American Enterprise Institute after leaving office in 1993. From 1995 until 2000, he served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton, a Fortune 500 company and market leader in the energy sector. He also sat on the Board of Directors of Procter & Gamble, Union Pacific, and EDS.
* Donald Rumsfeld
http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/rumsfeld.html
From 1977 to 1985 he served as Chief Executive Officer, President, and then Chairman of G.D. Searle & Co., a worldwide pharmaceutical company. The successful turnaround there earned him awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry from the Wall Street Transcript (1980) and Financial World (1981). From 1985 to 1990 he was in private business.
Mr. Rumsfeld served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of General Instrument Corporation from 1990 to 1993. General Instrument Corporation was a leader in broadband transmission, distribution, and access control technologies. Until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense, Mr. Rumsfeld served as Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, Inc., a pharmaceutical company.
* George Bush. Weeell, this guy is pretty much a loser but it seems that he's employed people in oil and gas and "managed" a baseball team. Uh, that's it. Industries not exactly renowned for their ethical practices.
I guess the common factor in all these companies is that none of these companies are particularly ethical in the way they employ people and the way they do business. Or maybe you think christians make better bosses? I cannot say for certain if all slaveowners - on both sides of the Atlantic - were christian but I'm pretty certain that it was the case. In fact, christians profited from the slave-trade as much as anyone else.
Facts never get in the way of a good troll, do they now?
I object to the fact that the IQ tests are treated as immutable laws, scientific and unchangeable. I think they're just a culturally agreed set of tests which measure your ability to do those tests. The philosophy behind the tests that set up the strawman of "Intelligence Quota" belongs to the age of measuring skulls to prove superiority. So, yes, your quote is good.
;-)
I object to the people who seem to think that the underclass are an underclass because that's how it's meant to be and who use IQ tests and the like to bolster their threadbare arguments. Indeed, the fact that IQ tests have changed seems to indicate to me cultural factors at work - well of course you could say refinement - but I see nothing in this to suggest a fixed bench mark which is objective and authoritative, a cultural ruler if you will. The Flynn effect is a good counterweight to this crowd.
Incoherent - well, yes. This is slashdot, no? But, hey, that quote seems good, not sure Nietsche can be dismissed just like that though. You did indeed spot the tossed out remark. I was, after all, at work
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Why is it such a big deal to learn that the IQ tests are flawed, and are affected by cultural components. The IQ test was invented by men. It's not surprising to learn that women fare less well under tests which exclude a model of their intelligence as well.
During the 60s, IQs amongst well-off white kids in the US went up because of the better post-war diet and economic status.
IQ tests mean nothing except to the stupids who belong to MENSA.
Joese Jimenez makes an appearance in the film of "The Right Stuff". One of the astronauts used to imitate said comedian.
I hope he's found a way of safely decommissioning nuclear plants. How long does it take these days?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4140088.stm
A 100 years, you say? Now that don't seem too safe to me.
Many years ago when I went to bury my ex-father-in-law (ex in all senses now), I was surprised to discover that photographs had now become embedded in gravestones. Not something I'd seen in UK graveyards before that, and I was brought up helping to dig graves. So yes, these things change.
I think the sound aspect could get annoying to people talking to their deceased relatives so that kind of thing would be banned. BlueTooth headphones possibly?
I'd expect to see solar-panel driven units fairly soon, unless they switch off when the family stop paying.
You could of course record the ultimate "if you are watching this, I shall be dead..." speech and spook your future descendants.
This was mooted 14 years ago. I can't see any big changes. Bypassing the local transformers will still cost a shit-load of money.
I use the RSS feeds in Firefox to check the status of news items from Le Figaro, BBC and the New York Times.
I also use it to check if there are new items from Slashdot, PennyArcade and Megatokyo. The headlines are usually explicit enough to tell me if I want to go to the website or not, which saves me an important amount of time given that PennyArcade and MegaTokyo both take a while to download even on a corporate network.
Works for me. To me it's just a dynamic bookmark folder in Firefox, think of it like a news-ticker. I agree that RSS is not the second coming, just like "blogs" are just over-inflated home-pages. Although to hear the combatants of Atom V RSS (sometimes boiled down to one mega-corporation against one millionaire), you'd think that the lives of millions were at stake, particularly from the Atom camp. *sigh*
The interesting one is Slashdot. The feed from my work machine works. The feed to to my home machine worked a couple of times and has now stopped, in spite of the crap spouted on the Slashdot apology page on "why the Slashdot RSS feed isn't working for you". Maybe "they" only allow one nibble at a time?