Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I just lost a LOT of respect for Napster. I realize that they are a company looking after their own trademark, but it is still one of the most overt cases of hypocrisy I can recall. Doing it publicly, through lawyers...issuing an *order*. My stomach churns. I can't imagine a more direct way for Napster to sever ties to the coalescing Nerdroots movement than this. I think it's time to sell out to AOL and comlete the debacle.
I get your point. I hear it all the time. A lawyer standing up and espousing legal fact, because it is helpful for me to know.
From a legal standpoint, I'm sure you are correct. But do not compare *legal fact* with *scientific fact*, or assume that I would have the same response for a Physicist or Molecular Biologist. They are FORCED to separate science from morality because science is cold hard fact that cannot be swayed by moral philosophy. Direction yes, but truth no. The law can, but isn't. I would rather hear your opinion as the moral philospher than hear about your expertise as a lawyer.
Two high school students walked into their highschool, killed 13 people, injured many more, and then proceeded to take their own lives.
Now, one year later a large number of/. readers are whining pitifully about misuse of the intellectual property that their posts regarding the horrible event represent.
Shut up.
No really. Stop it.
You are belittling an incredible tragedy with your own self important rants about IPRs and permission statements. It is repulsive.
A lot of you may think Katz is pretty cheesy, but this book is a very good thing. It may help promote an understanding and diminish the propensity for further violence of this manner. If you are unwilling to directly or indirectly contribute to such a cause through your posts here on/. - get a little blackboard, a little piece of chalk and a comfortable chair. Then sit at home and post comments back and forth to yourself without fear of ever helping anyone or anything.
You are probably filing the class action lawsuit papers right now, rat weasel. What will your cut be?
This is exactly what I hate about self important lawyers.
"Blah Blah I know the law. Blah Blah who cares what is right, we have a clear LEGAL obligation to see Andover go down in flames."
The creation of this book is a good thing. It will further disseminate the feelings of a group of people that do not otherwise have a strong voice. Please do not soil it with legalistic tripe.
Your argument is semantically logical, but still a bastardization of the intent of the Hertz rating. 2 photons with identical frequencies do not result in a photon with twice the frequency. They add to give a photon of twice the amplitude (assuming coherent phase).
The simple fact that the units are consistent does not mean a property is additive. Take temperature for example. Intel Marketers would be adding temperatures right and left if it helped them sell PIIIs.
"This processor runs at 150F, this one runs at 160F, together, a staggering 310F!"
No.
I do see your point, but electronics rely on rising and falling waves, not a crank turning out widgets. When you deal with EM waves, adding hertz just isn't done.
INTEL CORP PURCHASES KEEBLER TO IMPROVE SUB-MICRON CAPABILITIES
INTEL DEVELOPER FORUM, PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Mar. 2, 2000 - In a move to improve their supply of high end processors to OEM and retail markets, Intel (INTC) has today purchased the infamous Keebler Tree, including all Keebler Elves, for $400 million and an undisclosed number of shares of Intel stock.
"They understand volume," explained Intel Chairman Andy Grove. "They have been a mainstream supplier for many years, with a proven track record. The synergy of our R&D with their sub-micron expertise will allow us to significantly improve yields in our PIII line as well as speed up the ramp for the upcoming Willamette. In addition to these obvious tier one benefits, we believe the Keebler move offers further advantage with regard to technological innovation. Before the takeover, we had a team of Intel geologists do a field study of the soil mineral content near the Big Tree. Copper everywhere. We are excited about how this positions us for the possibility of employing copper interconnects in a future product line we are inexplicably calling AluminumMine. The Elves will be invaluable to us in this effort."
Ernest J. Keebler, the CEO of Keebler responded to the acquisition,
"We were not happy about the takeover, but this is a business and we will proceed according to the best interests of American Elves everywhere. Intel is a savvy corporation and they don't like to be kicked in the teeth by the competition. (Referring to recent market gains by competitor AMD) They saw a need and they saw a solution. The takeover has been in the works for a couple of months now. We are already sampling 0.13 micron,1.1 GHz PIIIs with a deeper pipeline, 512kb L2 cache, copper interconnects and a tasty fudge coating. There are heat issues, but when we refine the process, we will be able to take the voltage down and possibly add a crisp wafer."
Immediately after announcing the acquisition, Intel lawyers fired off a volley of lawsuits against Nabisco for patent infringement, and filed a series of grievances against a leading Taiwanese cookie exporter in an attempt to ban the import of their cookies into the United States. One Intel lawyer explained the move - "We have a cgi script that takes care of it all. We just have to fill in the company name, and maybe an address or two, and all hell breaks loose. We really don't even know how it happens. Computers are shiny."
Although I strongly agree that expanding SMP would be a nice thing, Megahertz ratings don't add. They just don't. Not because of SMP overhead diminishing effective usage (mentioned in previous reply), but because two devices acting independently at X MHz do not suddenly act at 2X MHz when placed near each other. This is not unlike claiming that the left half of your processor is running at 500 MHz, while the right half of your processor is running at 500 MHz, together they run at a Gigahertz.
This is a quaint little instance where a scientific field is too strongly influenced by a marketing department. I'm pretty sure if I could overclock, say, my hamster to 1.1 GHz on his wheel, I would get an ASP over $700 for the year. If I put a second hamster on the same wheel, marketing would claim 2.2 GHz. That's why they are marketing.
In a wave you have frequency and amplitude. Multiprocessoring is more analogous to an increase in amplitude than frequency.
That episode was pure tripe. I have heard rumors of a Lone Gunmen spinoff. I truly hope that if Carter undertakes such a project, he hires on some full time computer consultants that have *actually* used a computer.
I don't know what happened to the writing and research over the last couple of years, but the show currently has little more credibility than Relic Hunter.
I was actually thinking last night while watching the FPS debacle, "I can't wait until morning when this gets flamed on Slashdot."
Yeah, but they say Canada like a *million* times...
Seriously, Matt and Trey are two of the funniest bastards walking the planet right now. If anyone actually thinks they are going to hear a song on the Oscars that doesn't adequately blaspheme all things Canadian and otherwise, I am sure they are mistaken. Have a little faith in these guys. A lot of skeptics doubted South Park would reach the level of offense achieved in Spirit of Christmas, because you just can't say "Dude, don't call Jesus a Pig-Fucker" on television...even on Comedy Central. Somehow, they managed.
It's good to see the MIC is still funding top notch Death and Destruction research. It would be a real shame to see progress come to a grinding halt with regard to clever new ways to blow things/people/fleshy-headed-mutants into smaller bits.
Maybe I'm just being cynical and this research is actually competing with fuel cells for the right to power your Crusoe in 3 to 5 years.
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Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I just lost a LOT of respect for Napster. I realize that they are a company looking after their own trademark, but it is still one of the most overt cases of hypocrisy I can recall. Doing it publicly, through lawyers...issuing an *order*. My stomach churns. I can't imagine a more direct way for Napster to sever ties to the coalescing Nerdroots movement than this. I think it's time to sell out to AOL and comlete the debacle.
Ouch.
Hi, Anonymous Coward.
I get your point. I hear it all the time. A lawyer standing up and espousing legal fact, because it is helpful for me to know.
From a legal standpoint, I'm sure you are correct. But do not compare *legal fact* with *scientific fact*, or assume that I would have the same response for a Physicist or Molecular Biologist. They are FORCED to separate science from morality because science is cold hard fact that cannot be swayed by moral philosophy. Direction yes, but truth no. The law can, but isn't. I would rather hear your opinion as the moral philospher than hear about your expertise as a lawyer.
-Rothfuss
Two high school students walked into their highschool, killed 13 people, injured many more, and then proceeded to take their own lives.
/. readers are whining pitifully about misuse of the intellectual property that their posts regarding the horrible event represent.
/. - get a little blackboard, a little piece of chalk and a comfortable chair. Then sit at home and post comments back and forth to yourself without fear of ever helping anyone or anything.
Now, one year later a large number of
Shut up.
No really. Stop it.
You are belittling an incredible tragedy with your own self important rants about IPRs and permission statements. It is repulsive.
A lot of you may think Katz is pretty cheesy, but this book is a very good thing. It may help promote an understanding and diminish the propensity for further violence of this manner. If you are unwilling to directly or indirectly contribute to such a cause through your posts here on
-Rothfuss
You are probably filing the class action lawsuit papers right now, rat weasel. What will your cut be?
This is exactly what I hate about self important lawyers.
"Blah Blah I know the law. Blah Blah who cares what is right, we have a clear LEGAL obligation to see Andover go down in flames."
The creation of this book is a good thing. It will further disseminate the feelings of a group of people that do not otherwise have a strong voice. Please do not soil it with legalistic tripe.
-Rothfuss
Your argument is semantically logical, but still a bastardization of the intent of the Hertz rating. 2 photons with identical frequencies do not result in a photon with twice the frequency. They add to give a photon of twice the amplitude (assuming coherent phase).
The simple fact that the units are consistent does not mean a property is additive. Take temperature for example. Intel Marketers would be adding temperatures right and left if it helped them sell PIIIs.
"This processor runs at 150F, this one runs at 160F, together, a staggering 310F!"
No.
I do see your point, but electronics rely on rising and falling waves, not a crank turning out widgets. When you deal with EM waves, adding hertz just isn't done.
-Rothfuss
INTEL CORP PURCHASES KEEBLER TO IMPROVE SUB-MICRON CAPABILITIES
INTEL DEVELOPER FORUM, PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Mar. 2, 2000 - In a move to improve their supply of high end processors to OEM and retail markets, Intel (INTC) has today purchased the infamous Keebler Tree, including all Keebler Elves, for $400 million and an undisclosed number of shares of Intel stock.
"They understand volume," explained Intel Chairman Andy Grove. "They have been a mainstream supplier for many years, with a proven track record. The synergy of our R&D with their sub-micron expertise will allow us to significantly improve yields in our PIII line as well as speed up the ramp for the upcoming Willamette. In addition to these obvious tier one benefits, we believe the Keebler move offers further advantage with regard to technological innovation. Before the takeover, we had a team of Intel geologists do a field study of the soil mineral content near the Big Tree. Copper everywhere. We are excited about how this positions us for the possibility of employing copper interconnects in a future product line we are inexplicably calling AluminumMine. The Elves will be invaluable to us in this effort."
Ernest J. Keebler, the CEO of Keebler responded to the acquisition,
"We were not happy about the takeover, but this is a business and we will proceed according to the best interests of American Elves everywhere. Intel is a savvy corporation and they don't like to be kicked in the teeth by the competition. (Referring to recent market gains by competitor AMD) They saw a need and they saw a solution. The takeover has been in the works for a couple of months now. We are already sampling 0.13 micron,1.1 GHz PIIIs with a deeper pipeline, 512kb L2 cache, copper interconnects and a tasty fudge coating. There are heat issues, but when we refine the process, we will be able to take the voltage down and possibly add a crisp wafer."
Immediately after announcing the acquisition, Intel lawyers fired off a volley of lawsuits against Nabisco for patent infringement, and filed a series of grievances against a leading Taiwanese cookie exporter in an attempt to ban the import of their cookies into the United States. One Intel lawyer explained the move - "We have a cgi script that takes care of it all. We just have to fill in the company name, and maybe an address or two, and all hell breaks loose. We really don't even know how it happens. Computers are shiny."
Although I strongly agree that expanding SMP would be a nice thing, Megahertz ratings don't add. They just don't. Not because of SMP overhead diminishing effective usage (mentioned in previous reply), but because two devices acting independently at X MHz do not suddenly act at 2X MHz when placed near each other. This is not unlike claiming that the left half of your processor is running at 500 MHz, while the right half of your processor is running at 500 MHz, together they run at a Gigahertz.
This is a quaint little instance where a scientific field is too strongly influenced by a marketing department. I'm pretty sure if I could overclock, say, my hamster to 1.1 GHz on his wheel, I would get an ASP over $700 for the year. If I put a second hamster on the same wheel, marketing would claim 2.2 GHz. That's why they are marketing.
In a wave you have frequency and amplitude. Multiprocessoring is more analogous to an increase in amplitude than frequency.
-Rothfuss
That episode was pure tripe. I have heard rumors of a Lone Gunmen spinoff. I truly hope that if Carter undertakes such a project, he hires on some full time computer consultants that have *actually* used a computer.
I don't know what happened to the writing and research over the last couple of years, but the show currently has little more credibility than Relic Hunter.
I was actually thinking last night while watching the FPS debacle, "I can't wait until morning when this gets flamed on Slashdot."
Thanks everyone.
Yeah, but they say Canada like a *million* times...
Seriously, Matt and Trey are two of the funniest bastards walking the planet right now. If anyone actually thinks they are going to hear a song on the Oscars that doesn't adequately blaspheme all things Canadian and otherwise, I am sure they are mistaken. Have a little faith in these guys. A lot of skeptics doubted South Park would reach the level of offense achieved in Spirit of Christmas, because you just can't say "Dude, don't call Jesus a Pig-Fucker" on television...even on Comedy Central. Somehow, they managed.
It's good to see the MIC is still funding top notch Death and Destruction research. It would be a real shame to see progress come to a grinding halt with regard to clever new ways to blow things/people/fleshy-headed-mutants into smaller bits.
Maybe I'm just being cynical and this research is actually competing with fuel cells for the right to power your Crusoe in 3 to 5 years.