"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him
"While the ball did not go through the goal posts, it clearly would have if the goal posts had been somewhere else instead."
So basically the president did things that were deeply disturbing but technically legal
What deeply disturbing things? To be an anti-establishment candidate like Obama before him? Trump is not the first anti-establishment, outsider president: Obama is. That's a well established trend now, and Russians have little to do with it. Look at all those Democratic presidential candidates (O'Rourke, Warren, Yang, Sanders, Harris, Gabbard...): they are all somewhat anti-establishment or posing as anti-establishment and/or pushing their outsider status.
Anti-establishment?? Yeah, the trust fund baby who lives in a glass tower and shit into a golden toilet is the friend of the common man... right.
"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him
"While the ball did not go through the goal posts, it clearly would have if the goal posts had been somewhere else instead."
So basically the president did things that were deeply disturbing but technically legal
So both sides can claim victory. When the dust settles the Americans will be divided into three parts, his base that would support him even if he shot a random Muslim shackled to a post on the White House lawn on live TV, the third that will always believe that Donald Trump’s name should be mentioned in the same breath as that of Benedict Arnold and the final third that’s sitting there watching it all and wondering how this could happen to their country.
No I'm. not, the statute of limitations on his various financial crimes, insurance fraud and tax cheating will not expire, even over a possible second term. It does not take much effort to find that out. It is you who are too lazy to conduct a google search, or maybe you are afraid that what you'd find would contradict the sewage Fox News and Sinclair media are pumping into your echo chamber?
If enough antibiotics are used to kill the vast majority of the bacteria, the antibiotic spray is collected, instead of lingering in the environment, and replacement, friendly bacteria were put in their place, it could work.
Scientists can always develop new antibiotics.
You say that as if developing an anti-biotic is akin to developing a new smartphone generation, something you do routinely ever couple of years. It isn't, developing antibiotics is really hard and immensely expensive. The more of antibiotics are rendered useless by stupid and useless stunts like this the harder it gets to develop new ones. And it's not just antibiotics, my local hospital is currently dealing with an outbreak of bacteria that have become immune to not just normal hand disinfectants but also the heavy duty stuff they use to disinfect the operating theatres and this is mainly due to excessive and careless use of these disinfectants.
So we have moved on from "Russians" and "collusion" to other topics now, given how much that one failed.
I cannot wait for the next Democrat president. They are going to get ass fucked and hard.
Oh no, not at all, I have always thought Trump is a corrupt moron. And you do realise that even if Trump sits two terms, the statute of limitations on a whole shit ton of what Muller referred to the Southern District of New York and what Cohen revealed during his testimony before Congress will not have expired by the time he leaves office?... they can still prosecute the hell out of him when he leaves office. So when it comes to ass fucking it would seem to me that Donald Trump may very well have something to look forward to. All this, what you perceive as 'unfair treatment' of Trump, is the Democrats playing the game the Republicans did with Clinton and Obama. The gloves are off, learn to love it.
Why so polite? I would have started that summary with something much more direct and to the point, like: The brainless muppet that senile old lecher Donald Trump put in charge of the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is in the process of allowing Florida to completely ruin two common anti-biotics and create yet more antibiotic-resistant bacterial strains...
Even more antibiotic-resistant bacteria, just one of the wonderful things that happen when you make one of the most corrupt morons on earth your president,
The UK is not providing a free ride to the EU. They are getting quite a bit.
Yup, a bit more liberty-impinging bureaucracy every year, all for a taste of that radiant socialist future that's always just around the corner!
I take it that is a jab at the humongous EU bureaucracy? I know that is an article of gospel truth on the right wing but it is also a steaming pile of male bovine rectal secretions. The EU employs an order of magnitude fewer bureaucrats than the UK, something like 40.000 EU bureaucrats to 400.000 UK bureaucrats (a.k.a Civil Servants).
LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!!.....
Excellent example of the brokenness of Slashdot's moderation. I can see the selfish (even authoritarian) basis for the "I disagree" negative mods, but what's the justification for insightful in such a tiny joke? A "funny" mod or two for the satirical aspects might have been justified, but I don't think nepotism, even flagrant nepotism, calls for the chanting mob.
However it does remind me of the parody protest I'd like to see, based on the chant of "Lock kids up, LOCK KIDS UP!" Obviously it would be a parody of a Trump rally, but as part of a protest against child separation, especially for asylum seekers. I think for maximum impact, the protesters should chant in "Trump face", with the short video building to a crescendo of rage before dissolving into mad screams. Each Trump face could be as simple as a piece of paper. I'd recommend an angry shouty closeup of Trump's face. Try to forget the image of a mob of enraged little Trumps!
Well done, I think that such a video might go viral. It might even cause some people to stop and think "Do I really want to be part of that sort of thing?"
The bottom line is that it is legal to seek asylum. Be quite amusing if Trump's supporters want to flee in panic because the next president turns out to be a Democratic anti-Trump with Trumpian tendencies, only to discover that Canada and Mexico have closed the borders and will separate them from their children if they seek asylum.
Slashdot should introduce a '-1 Bwaaaaaaahhhhh!... UNFAIR!' mod just for Republicans.
> Using private email for public business isn't illegal.
Yes
> Deleting important emails like Hillary did is what's illegal.
The emails were under a preservation order from a Congressional subpoena/investigation.
The addition crimes by Clinton were:
* Removing top or other types of US government secret data/communications from the secured US intelligence security network(s).
* Selling/providing access to those same documents to third parties - ie. Clinton Foundation donors
Beyond Clinton's major crimes, the damage to United States security is immense. In Clinton's attempts to circumvent US intelligence safeguards for top secret information, her illegal server was completely unsecured and is known to have been hacked by various enemies of the US and the top secret information stolen.
High five Hillary! You fucked your country for hundreds in millions dollars to your sham foundation.
Well, those are your theoretical facts, I have alternative facts so: LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!!.....
... helping other people sell streaming video subscriptions and taking a cut...
Apple has a captive audience: It gives them the apex of rent-seeking behaviour.
Not with iTunes it doesn't, it runs on Windows too and releasing a iTunes for Android/Linux would not be a bad idea either. That being said, providing a single access point with a single subscription for multiple TV services seems like a pretty convenient service to me. I for one am not going to subscribe to Netflix, Hulu, Diseney, HBO, YouTube,... the list goes on, and on, and on... all individually, I'm going to subscribe to a subset at best. However, if somebody offered me a service that fuses all of them and allows me to watch bits and pieces from any service on demand I'd be willing to pay a subscription for that is considerably higher than I'd be willing to pay Netflix, Hulu, Diseney, HBO, YouTube,... individually. I'd even be interested in 'packages' If I could pick my package together in something resembling à la carte fashion and could stream already premiered TV show episodes from those channels on demand. Since they are not competing with these guys but offering them an opportunity to earn extra money by giving them easier access to Apple's install base this could actually work pretty well.
It is illegal to repair your own Tesla. But you faggots keep giving them a pass.
A corporate EULA (or some shit like that) stating your warranty is void if you repair your car or whatever other gizmo has broken down on you is not the same thing as law.
The outrage is hilarious. As though this hasn't been seen many times before. Seriously What the hell, just check your surroundings and you should be able to figure out if you're being watched most of the time pretty quick. Who would pay for these random videos anyway? I bet it's mostly really long hugs.
But I like the soft fluffiness of the Sasquatch fur so much...
as long as they don't apologize. If Trump's taught us anything its this: Never say your sorry. Ever. It's a sign of weakness, and your opponents will pounce.
If Trump taught us anything it is that a lottery wheel could make better policy decision than Trump.
About 1,600 people have been secretly filmed in hotel rooms in South Korea, with the footage live-streamed online for paying customers to watch, police said Wednesday
This is why I always run around my hotel room wearing a full body Sasquatch suit.
When it comes to android, at least you have alternative manufacturers. With apple, you have none. Sure, you can get a decent hackintosh or even a great one for a lot cheaper, but iphones don't have hackintosh builds.
Being a one stop shop that doesn't license it's OS is kind of Apple's business model, people know that right off the bat and they accept that limitation when they buy an Apple device. That being said, as far as I can tell the biggest Android manufactures score a lower recent reputability rating on that iFixit list than Apple does. Samsung, Google, HTC, Huawei all score a 4 or worse on that list for their newest devices, In fact HTC has three phones on there that are rated almost irreparable. Apple on the other hand has been scoring consistently higher reliability ratings with time. They went from the iPhone 1st gen that scored a 2 to scoring a 7 for everything up to the iPhone X series whose repairability rating dipped to 6. The highest scoring Google phone on that list is the Pixel XL of 2016 that scored a 6 and Google has been consistently lowering its repairability rating to a mere 4 with the Pixel 3 XL. I wonder if that indicates that Google is rapidly learning to force users to upgrade as they gain experience by making their phones progressively harder to repair? It seems more justifiable to accuse Google+Samsung+HTC of forcing users to upgrade that than Apple given iFixit's experiences with repairability.
"What is it about Apple's gadgets that forbids mere mortals from looking inside?"
Nothing. Even without the law being passed, you can get the pentalobe driver, open your iphone, replace parts which 3rd party versions (if you know what you are doing), and close it up again. This law is forcing manufacturers to continue manufacturing parts for products they no longer produce, for 7 years.
Funnily enough iFixit's list of hard to repair smartphones is topped by a bunch of Android devices: https://www.ifixit.com/smartph...
The Samsung s10 scored a 3, the iPhone XS scored a 6, higher score means more repairable so in iFixit's opinion the iPhone is more repairable than a shit-ton of Android devices. I suppose it is time to grab the pitchforks, light up the torches and burn iFixit HQ do to the ground for spreading heresy.
Yes, but does Google lobby against right to repair laws as Apple apparently does? I honestly don't know. Difficulty of repair due to poor design choice (intentionaly or not) isn't the same as actively lobbying the government to prevent people from repairing their own devices.
A string of Android device manufacturers like Samsung for example lobby against right to repair laws.
Yes, but to my knowledge no android phone to date has had a software bomb in place to prevent the device from booting if a 3rd party repair was detected.
There's a world of difference between being difficult to repair and having the device actively look for 3rd party repairs and refusing to operate because it found one.
They have a system that prevents the computer from booting if you install inauthentic parts which given their business model of producing extremely reliable kit is not that surprising nor would it be for any other laptop manufacturer. Try installing inauthentic parts in a Lenovo or Acer, take the thing to the manufacturer to complain and see what they say. That, in my book, is not repair, it is experimentation on your part (same for smartphones and tablets). Also, Apple does not ban 3rd party repair centres, they just require them to be licensed. I've dealt with two licensed third party Apple repair centres over the last 20 years and I have yet to experience anything other than excellent service.
Way to go off topic ass-hole. This is about Right to Repair which encompasses all companies not just Apple.
The question was: "What is it about Apple's gadgets that forbids mere mortals from looking inside?" so I merely pointed out that iPhones are easier for mere mortals to open up and repair than many Android phones who usually get a lot of love here on Slashdot for being universally superior to iPhones in every way. This clearly pissed you off since you started comparing me to your rectal opening which says some very disturbing things about your psychology.
Pretty clearly I suggest that you cannot get hardware you can trust, so you should buy the best with regards to the other characteristics. I have no idea how you can not see that in my statement.
Well, it's kind of implicit in Trump's Huawei blockade that US hardware is trustworthy but Huawei's should be banned because... alternative facts... and you seemed to be echoing that sentiment. I've discussed this Huawei ban with a number of you Yanks for a while now and it is amazing how about 75% of Americans see nothing wrong with Trump's logic here. In effect the US is saying that the EU should trust US hardware which is known to be compromised but ban the Chinese stuff even though the US stuff is known to be compromised but nobody can prove the Chinese equipment is too. From my European point of view I trust neither Cisco nor Huawei very far but I'm more inclined to trust Huawei than Cisco based on what I know at the moment. Since no equipment can now be trusted I suppose I'll have to get busy soldering up my very own Europe wide 5G network this evening in preparation for my 2020 summer vacation:-)
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"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him
"While the ball did not go through the goal posts, it clearly would have if the goal posts had been somewhere else instead."
So basically the president did things that were deeply disturbing but technically legal
What deeply disturbing things? To be an anti-establishment candidate like Obama before him? Trump is not the first anti-establishment, outsider president: Obama is. That's a well established trend now, and Russians have little to do with it. Look at all those Democratic presidential candidates (O'Rourke, Warren, Yang, Sanders, Harris, Gabbard...): they are all somewhat anti-establishment or posing as anti-establishment and/or pushing their outsider status.
Anti-establishment?? Yeah, the trust fund baby who lives in a glass tower and shit into a golden toilet is the friend of the common man ... right.
"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him
"While the ball did not go through the goal posts, it clearly would have if the goal posts had been somewhere else instead."
So basically the president did things that were deeply disturbing but technically legal So both sides can claim victory. When the dust settles the Americans will be divided into three parts, his base that would support him even if he shot a random Muslim shackled to a post on the White House lawn on live TV, the third that will always believe that Donald Trump’s name should be mentioned in the same breath as that of Benedict Arnold and the final third that’s sitting there watching it all and wondering how this could happen to their country.
You sound deranged, maybe take a step back?
No I'm. not, the statute of limitations on his various financial crimes, insurance fraud and tax cheating will not expire, even over a possible second term. It does not take much effort to find that out. It is you who are too lazy to conduct a google search, or maybe you are afraid that what you'd find would contradict the sewage Fox News and Sinclair media are pumping into your echo chamber?
If enough antibiotics are used to kill the vast majority of the bacteria, the antibiotic spray is collected, instead of lingering in the environment, and replacement, friendly bacteria were put in their place, it could work.
Scientists can always develop new antibiotics.
You say that as if developing an anti-biotic is akin to developing a new smartphone generation, something you do routinely ever couple of years. It isn't, developing antibiotics is really hard and immensely expensive. The more of antibiotics are rendered useless by stupid and useless stunts like this the harder it gets to develop new ones. And it's not just antibiotics, my local hospital is currently dealing with an outbreak of bacteria that have become immune to not just normal hand disinfectants but also the heavy duty stuff they use to disinfect the operating theatres and this is mainly due to excessive and careless use of these disinfectants.
So we have moved on from "Russians" and "collusion" to other topics now, given how much that one failed.
I cannot wait for the next Democrat president. They are going to get ass fucked and hard.
Oh no, not at all, I have always thought Trump is a corrupt moron. And you do realise that even if Trump sits two terms, the statute of limitations on a whole shit ton of what Muller referred to the Southern District of New York and what Cohen revealed during his testimony before Congress will not have expired by the time he leaves office? ... they can still prosecute the hell out of him when he leaves office. So when it comes to ass fucking it would seem to me that Donald Trump may very well have something to look forward to. All this, what you perceive as 'unfair treatment' of Trump, is the Democrats playing the game the Republicans did with Clinton and Obama. The gloves are off, learn to love it.
Why so polite? I would have started that summary with something much more direct and to the point, like: The brainless muppet that senile old lecher Donald Trump put in charge of the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is in the process of allowing Florida to completely ruin two common anti-biotics and create yet more antibiotic-resistant bacterial strains ...
Even more antibiotic-resistant bacteria, just one of the wonderful things that happen when you make one of the most corrupt morons on earth your president,
The UK is not providing a free ride to the EU. They are getting quite a bit.
Yup, a bit more liberty-impinging bureaucracy every year, all for a taste of that radiant socialist future that's always just around the corner!
I take it that is a jab at the humongous EU bureaucracy? I know that is an article of gospel truth on the right wing but it is also a steaming pile of male bovine rectal secretions. The EU employs an order of magnitude fewer bureaucrats than the UK, something like 40.000 EU bureaucrats to 400.000 UK bureaucrats (a.k.a Civil Servants).
LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! .....
Excellent example of the brokenness of Slashdot's moderation. I can see the selfish (even authoritarian) basis for the "I disagree" negative mods, but what's the justification for insightful in such a tiny joke? A "funny" mod or two for the satirical aspects might have been justified, but I don't think nepotism, even flagrant nepotism, calls for the chanting mob.
However it does remind me of the parody protest I'd like to see, based on the chant of "Lock kids up, LOCK KIDS UP!" Obviously it would be a parody of a Trump rally, but as part of a protest against child separation, especially for asylum seekers. I think for maximum impact, the protesters should chant in "Trump face", with the short video building to a crescendo of rage before dissolving into mad screams. Each Trump face could be as simple as a piece of paper. I'd recommend an angry shouty closeup of Trump's face. Try to forget the image of a mob of enraged little Trumps!
Well done, I think that such a video might go viral. It might even cause some people to stop and think "Do I really want to be part of that sort of thing?"
The bottom line is that it is legal to seek asylum. Be quite amusing if Trump's supporters want to flee in panic because the next president turns out to be a Democratic anti-Trump with Trumpian tendencies, only to discover that Canada and Mexico have closed the borders and will separate them from their children if they seek asylum.
Slashdot should introduce a '-1 Bwaaaaaaahhhhh! ... UNFAIR!' mod just for Republicans.
Oracle "swung the layoff axe...
I like to think of it as: 'drawing the magic cost cutting sword from the stone of greed'.
> Using private email for public business isn't illegal.
Yes
> Deleting important emails like Hillary did is what's illegal.
The emails were under a preservation order from a Congressional subpoena/investigation.
The addition crimes by Clinton were:
* Removing top or other types of US government secret data/communications from the secured US intelligence security network(s). * Selling/providing access to those same documents to third parties - ie. Clinton Foundation donors
Beyond Clinton's major crimes, the damage to United States security is immense. In Clinton's attempts to circumvent US intelligence safeguards for top secret information, her illegal server was completely unsecured and is known to have been hacked by various enemies of the US and the top secret information stolen.
High five Hillary! You fucked your country for hundreds in millions dollars to your sham foundation.
Well, those are your theoretical facts, I have alternative facts so: LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! .....
Jared & Ivanka: Couple 'Continues To Use' Private Messaging For White House Business
LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! .....
Apple has a captive audience: It gives them the apex of rent-seeking behaviour.
Not with iTunes it doesn't, it runs on Windows too and releasing a iTunes for Android/Linux would not be a bad idea either. That being said, providing a single access point with a single subscription for multiple TV services seems like a pretty convenient service to me. I for one am not going to subscribe to Netflix, Hulu, Diseney, HBO, YouTube, ... the list goes on, and on, and on ... all individually, I'm going to subscribe to a subset at best. However, if somebody offered me a service that fuses all of them and allows me to watch bits and pieces from any service on demand I'd be willing to pay a subscription for that is considerably higher than I'd be willing to pay Netflix, Hulu, Diseney, HBO, YouTube, ... individually. I'd even be interested in 'packages' If I could pick my package together in something resembling à la carte fashion and could stream already premiered TV show episodes from those channels on demand. Since they are not competing with these guys but offering them an opportunity to earn extra money by giving them easier access to Apple's install base this could actually work pretty well.
Oh look. An apologist. /shocking.
*YAWN* you can be as snarky as you want, a EULA drawn up by a Tesla lawyers is still not law.
It is illegal to repair your own Tesla. But you faggots keep giving them a pass.
A corporate EULA (or some shit like that) stating your warranty is void if you repair your car or whatever other gizmo has broken down on you is not the same thing as law.
This is why I always run around my hotel room wearing a full body Sasquatch suit.
I hear that "Sasquatch Hotel Vacation" is the most repeated live stream in South Korea, particularly the hair drying scene.
Are you brave enough to hit Google image search with the term: 'Sasquatch porn'?
Area FurryOne.
Hehe ...
The outrage is hilarious. As though this hasn't been seen many times before. Seriously What the hell, just check your surroundings and you should be able to figure out if you're being watched most of the time pretty quick. Who would pay for these random videos anyway? I bet it's mostly really long hugs.
But I like the soft fluffiness of the Sasquatch fur so much ...
as long as they don't apologize. If Trump's taught us anything its this: Never say your sorry. Ever. It's a sign of weakness, and your opponents will pounce.
If Trump taught us anything it is that a lottery wheel could make better policy decision than Trump.
Rule 34?
More like Area 51.
About 1,600 people have been secretly filmed in hotel rooms in South Korea, with the footage live-streamed online for paying customers to watch, police said Wednesday
This is why I always run around my hotel room wearing a full body Sasquatch suit.
When it comes to android, at least you have alternative manufacturers. With apple, you have none. Sure, you can get a decent hackintosh or even a great one for a lot cheaper, but iphones don't have hackintosh builds.
Being a one stop shop that doesn't license it's OS is kind of Apple's business model, people know that right off the bat and they accept that limitation when they buy an Apple device. That being said, as far as I can tell the biggest Android manufactures score a lower recent reputability rating on that iFixit list than Apple does. Samsung, Google, HTC, Huawei all score a 4 or worse on that list for their newest devices, In fact HTC has three phones on there that are rated almost irreparable. Apple on the other hand has been scoring consistently higher reliability ratings with time. They went from the iPhone 1st gen that scored a 2 to scoring a 7 for everything up to the iPhone X series whose repairability rating dipped to 6. The highest scoring Google phone on that list is the Pixel XL of 2016 that scored a 6 and Google has been consistently lowering its repairability rating to a mere 4 with the Pixel 3 XL. I wonder if that indicates that Google is rapidly learning to force users to upgrade as they gain experience by making their phones progressively harder to repair? It seems more justifiable to accuse Google+Samsung+HTC of forcing users to upgrade that than Apple given iFixit's experiences with repairability.
"What is it about Apple's gadgets that forbids mere mortals from looking inside?"
Nothing. Even without the law being passed, you can get the pentalobe driver, open your iphone, replace parts which 3rd party versions (if you know what you are doing), and close it up again. This law is forcing manufacturers to continue manufacturing parts for products they no longer produce, for 7 years.
Funnily enough iFixit's list of hard to repair smartphones is topped by a bunch of Android devices: https://www.ifixit.com/smartph... The Samsung s10 scored a 3, the iPhone XS scored a 6, higher score means more repairable so in iFixit's opinion the iPhone is more repairable than a shit-ton of Android devices. I suppose it is time to grab the pitchforks, light up the torches and burn iFixit HQ do to the ground for spreading heresy.
Yes, but does Google lobby against right to repair laws as Apple apparently does? I honestly don't know. Difficulty of repair due to poor design choice (intentionaly or not) isn't the same as actively lobbying the government to prevent people from repairing their own devices.
A string of Android device manufacturers like Samsung for example lobby against right to repair laws.
Yes, but to my knowledge no android phone to date has had a software bomb in place to prevent the device from booting if a 3rd party repair was detected.
There's a world of difference between being difficult to repair and having the device actively look for 3rd party repairs and refusing to operate because it found one.
They have a system that prevents the computer from booting if you install inauthentic parts which given their business model of producing extremely reliable kit is not that surprising nor would it be for any other laptop manufacturer. Try installing inauthentic parts in a Lenovo or Acer, take the thing to the manufacturer to complain and see what they say. That, in my book, is not repair, it is experimentation on your part (same for smartphones and tablets). Also, Apple does not ban 3rd party repair centres, they just require them to be licensed. I've dealt with two licensed third party Apple repair centres over the last 20 years and I have yet to experience anything other than excellent service.
Way to go off topic ass-hole. This is about Right to Repair which encompasses all companies not just Apple.
The question was: "What is it about Apple's gadgets that forbids mere mortals from looking inside?" so I merely pointed out that iPhones are easier for mere mortals to open up and repair than many Android phones who usually get a lot of love here on Slashdot for being universally superior to iPhones in every way. This clearly pissed you off since you started comparing me to your rectal opening which says some very disturbing things about your psychology.
Pretty clearly I suggest that you cannot get hardware you can trust, so you should buy the best with regards to the other characteristics. I have no idea how you can not see that in my statement.
Well, it's kind of implicit in Trump's Huawei blockade that US hardware is trustworthy but Huawei's should be banned because ... alternative facts ... and you seemed to be echoing that sentiment. I've discussed this Huawei ban with a number of you Yanks for a while now and it is amazing how about 75% of Americans see nothing wrong with Trump's logic here. In effect the US is saying that the EU should trust US hardware which is known to be compromised but ban the Chinese stuff even though the US stuff is known to be compromised but nobody can prove the Chinese equipment is too. From my European point of view I trust neither Cisco nor Huawei very far but I'm more inclined to trust Huawei than Cisco based on what I know at the moment. Since no equipment can now be trusted I suppose I'll have to get busy soldering up my very own Europe wide 5G network this evening in preparation for my 2020 summer vacation :-)