Were you previously trading with etrade? It seems several of the people who have been approved have a history with etrade. (which looks pretty bad from a spam/fraud point of view -- etrade has received many thousands of dollars in this deal & if they base the profile on your trading experience with them, they knew before hand that they were going to bounce all these new accounts).
>> At that point presumably if you got a letter you will automatically get approved. Otherwise, E*Trade will use things like your current acct. balance, past trade activity, and the amount of shares you want to buy versus the total left to determine if you can get in.
Well, no on both counts. Read the thread you just posted to. They never ask how much you want to buy, and the letter isn't automatic approval.
Does anyone know if you can do the screening a second time, if your financial situation, goals, or experience change?
Anyone out there who has *passed* the screening? We've so far established that having enough money in the account, having over $50k liquid assets, and having income to easily cover the loss are not sufficient to pass the screening. What *is* sufficient?
The "protecting you" explaination is pretty weak, though that's what I was told by Etrade on the phone when they told me I wouldn't be allowed to participate. The public can blow money any way they wish, including blowing thousands on state lottery tickets, but they can't spend the same money on IPO stock? What a crock. This really reeks of keeping the money in the hands of the rich. It was an amazingly generous offer by Red Hat. Too bad so many people are being screwed by this "profile" nonsense. Now we just need a CSPP plan, where "C" is community.;)
oh, please. I *have* installed NT (what a mess), and most of the people in my office use it.
You can tell the NT developers because every month at least one of them is down -- "I'm reinstalling NT". Not "NT locked up", but *reinstalling*, because it futzed up so bad there's nothing to be salvaged.
I used NT as long as I could stand it, which wasn't long. Yeah, it's "stable", if "stable" means you don't use it, you don't change any configuration, and you don't install any software!
Meanwhile I have five linux boxes running & the closest I've ever come to reinstalling is copying files when a disk crashes.
So far what I'm hearing is Linux is much faster if either 1) you serve dynamic content 2) you serve from a large set of pages & freqently miss the cache, and even when serving static pages, your internet pipe is the bottleneck, so Linux won't slow it down.
But what about the file serving results? Seems like Linux would still lag here. You have, say, 100bT, it's not dynamic content, and you can pretty easily generate a huge amount of traffic on just a few files.
Most of the comments are very abstract. How about some real life examples?
For me, I rail against the BSD license every day, for two reasons:
1) My place of work uses a variety of tools which run on various Unices, including BSD, but NOT the free varieties. If I want to run BSD I *have* to use a proprietary version. This is only possible because of the BSD license. GPL would not allow the proprietary fork. Proprietary BSD's have marginalized the free BSD's, which is possible because of a poor choice of license.
Linux distributions are not "forks", because *any* Linux product will run on my linux box. At most I might have to install a different libc, or something, to get it to work. I don't have to buy a proprietary Linux.
2) A company I've worked for is basically making widget frosting -- code to run with its hardware. Where did the code base come from? BSD. This company has *no* investment in this code. They want to sell widgets. If it were free code they'd still sell widgets. It won't be free code because the BSD license was sitting there, allowing them to walk off with it. BSD had a valuable code base, which could have been extended. Instead it has been swallowed, because the license allows this waffling. This happens all the time: BSD is undercutting the development of free code.
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They've also marginalized the free BSD's, as anyone knows who's tried to use a BSD in a corporate environment: you can't get code for a free BSD, but BSDI is usually supported. So you're back to running a proprietary o/s.
GPL has saved Linux from the "fork and marginalize" syndrome of BSD. If a company develops Linux code, you can bloody well run it on your Linux box without buying LinuxI, or something.;)
takes BSD license code, adds a bell and a whistle, and releases it as their corporate blessed version. The free version suddenly loses credibility. Managers want to buy the proprietary version. Few people develop for the free one. Soon the market is centered around the proprietary version, and there is no real free alternative.
Seeing as this has already happened several times, I don't see how you can overlook this. I deal with this constantly, as the company I work for uses a variety of tools which will run on BSD systems, but only the proprietary ones!
This doesn't follow. As soon as you introduce measurement accuracy on an analog signal, you can talk about bits of information.
...and the brain seems to be mixed analog/digital. Long distance pathways (e.g. to your feet) look roughly like asynchronous digital (for the obvious reason than it's hard to reliably move an analog signal that far).
In any case, the storage question is not currently answerable. We do a lot of compression, and we can adaptively learn to compress data that we see a lot of.
Do these people live in some country that funds its public schools? Americans seem to think it happens by magic. Buy software? With a $200 class budget for the entire year?
Our schools can't afford basic necessities, much less software.
And chances are the only software that will run on the 286 and 386 in American classrooms is either free or out of print.
yeah, same here. my first thought was excuse me... what about shorthand? or people who've learned to use different alphabets? seemed obviously bogus, though i thought it was fud, not satire, until seeing the disclaimer.
...a better cure seems to be variation. i can type longer on my wacked keyboard than a normal one, but for very long periods nothing works better than switching keyboards occasionally. changing the repetative motions is your best bet. i'm skeptical of any single keyboard as _the_ solution.
We already tried that, in the American west. The result? A murder rate higher than our worst inner cities today.
When people have weapons, they use them. Not a difficult equation, and it's been true throughout history. The armed population that chooses not to use its weapons remains completely hypothetical. (Obviously some people can, but it breaks down in the general case).
I fear banning would suffer the same problems as prohibition & the drug war, though. There are too many guns already here & it's near impossible to control something like that it a country this size.
The ocean of guns we live in will probably only change by changing our culture.
b.c.
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In the end this is less an environmental threat than a waste of time. As previously noted, people starve for political, not technological reasons. We can feed the world today. Monsanto's claims that their technology will feed the world are false and self-serving, unless they plan to establish world peace and equity while they're at it.
GM crops primarily are designed to enforce a seed monopoly, e.g. "terminator" and "round-up ready".
It another context you might call it "gratuitous incompatibility".
Is anyone else reminded of Ken Kesey saying that the west coast is way ahead of the east coast, in the drug revolution, which he imagined was going to completely change the face of america? (as Jon says coming to SF from the east, people are more cluefull here). In Kesey's case, the west may have been ahead, but only in as much as they are always ahead in the lastest fad (which seems silly a few years down the road). I wonder if this revolution will seem similarly hollow in another decade. Will it really change the way we live, or will we merely see the same power structures we have now, slightly modified to fit on the web? I would like to see a change in power. E.g. the local paper is a useless conservative rag barely better than the national enquirer. I'd love to see a web alternative, but I don't see it happening. With one paper dominating & a minority of people who get news online, it looks to be a long struggle.
I can tell you first hand there are American employees working for Cisco who pronounce it "rooter". Who cares? What a stupid thing to diss on Gore for.
I picked up one of these, thinking it would help. I didn't. The chicklet keys are horrible, and fatigue my fingers very quickly. Also the device is not tapered toward the shorter fingers, so I can't get it in a position where all fingers can comfortably hit any of the three keys. It's worse on my wrist than a normal keyboard, by far. I'd much prefer a two-handed design, with one key per finger (no stretching), or perhaps two for index or thumb. Also soft keys, not chicklet.
Here's a homebrew ergo keyboard made with surplus parts, total cost $14. I was going to put this up next week, but since we're on the topic, I threw this page together this morning.
http://thecraftstudio.com/bcboy
Disclaimer: if you can't use powertools safely, or use of this design makes your arms fall off, it's not my fault. Use at your own risk.
After seeing "pootpoot", I checked to see if it would pootify *any* page of slashdot. Apparently, it will. Go to the pootpoot page & you can find this article (look for ESR or OSI -- they seem to survive pootification).
Example:
poot Poot I SAY!!!! by Pootpoot Poot on Pootpoot Pootpoot 18, @09:37AM Poot Poot is poot, RMS is poot, ESR is the poot poot of all, but poot poot poot!!!!!
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Were you previously trading with etrade? It seems several of the people who have been approved have a history with etrade. (which looks pretty bad from a spam/fraud point of view -- etrade has received many thousands of dollars in this deal & if they base the profile on your trading experience with them, they knew before hand that they were going to bounce all these new accounts).
>> At that point presumably if you got a letter you will automatically get approved. Otherwise, E*Trade will use things like your current acct. balance, past trade activity, and the amount of shares you want to buy versus the total left to determine if you can get in.
Well, no on both counts. Read the thread you just posted to. They never ask how much you want to buy, and the letter isn't automatic approval.
Does anyone know if you can do the screening a second time, if your financial situation, goals, or experience change?
Anyone out there who has *passed* the screening? We've so far established that having enough money in the account, having over $50k liquid assets, and having income to easily cover the loss are not sufficient to pass the screening. What *is* sufficient?
The "protecting you" explaination is pretty weak, though that's what I was told by Etrade on the phone when they told me I wouldn't be allowed to participate. The public can blow money any way they wish, including blowing thousands on state lottery tickets, but they can't spend the same money on IPO stock? What a crock. This really reeks of keeping the money in the hands of the rich. ;)
It was an amazingly generous offer by Red Hat. Too bad so many people are being screwed by this "profile" nonsense.
Now we just need a CSPP plan, where "C" is community.
oh, please. I *have* installed NT (what a mess), and most of the people in my office use it.
You can tell the NT developers because every month at least one of them is down -- "I'm reinstalling NT". Not "NT locked up", but *reinstalling*, because it futzed up so bad there's nothing to be salvaged.
I used NT as long as I could stand it, which wasn't long. Yeah, it's "stable", if "stable" means you don't use it, you don't change any configuration, and you don't install any software!
Meanwhile I have five linux boxes running & the closest I've ever come to reinstalling is copying files when a disk crashes.
So far what I'm hearing is Linux is much faster if either
1) you serve dynamic content
2) you serve from a large set of pages & freqently miss the cache,
and even when serving static pages, your internet pipe is the bottleneck, so Linux won't slow it down.
But what about the file serving results? Seems like Linux would still lag here. You have, say, 100bT, it's not dynamic content, and you can pretty easily generate a huge amount of traffic on just a few files.
Anyone have any insight on this?
(um, no, i don't mean flaming :)
Most of the comments are very abstract. How about some real life examples?
For me, I rail against the BSD license every day, for two reasons:
1) My place of work uses a variety of tools which run on various Unices, including BSD, but NOT the free varieties. If I want to run BSD I *have* to use a proprietary version. This is only possible because of the BSD license. GPL would not allow the proprietary fork. Proprietary BSD's have marginalized the free BSD's, which is possible because of a poor choice of license.
Linux distributions are not "forks", because *any* Linux product will run on my linux box. At most I might have to install a different libc, or something, to get it to work. I don't have to buy a proprietary Linux.
2) A company I've worked for is basically making widget frosting -- code to run with its hardware. Where did the code base come from? BSD. This company has *no* investment in this code. They want to sell widgets. If it were free code they'd still sell widgets. It won't be free code because the BSD license was sitting there, allowing them to walk off with it. BSD had a valuable code base, which could have been extended. Instead it has been swallowed, because the license allows this waffling. This happens all the time: BSD is undercutting the development of free code.
They've also marginalized the free BSD's, as anyone knows who's tried to use a BSD in a corporate environment: you can't get code for a free BSD, but BSDI is usually supported. So you're back to running a proprietary o/s.
;)
GPL has saved Linux from the "fork and marginalize" syndrome of BSD. If a company develops Linux code, you can bloody well run it on your Linux box without buying LinuxI, or something.
that was supposed to begin "your favorite company...", but it got eaten.
guess that will teach me to use the preview button.
Um, actually this is obviously wrong.
takes BSD license code, adds a bell and a whistle, and releases it as their corporate blessed version. The free version suddenly loses credibility. Managers want to buy the proprietary version. Few people develop for the free one. Soon the market is centered around the proprietary version, and there is no real free alternative.
Seeing as this has already happened several times, I don't see how you can overlook this. I deal with this constantly, as the company I work for uses a variety of tools which will run on BSD systems, but only the proprietary ones!
GPL avoids being marginalized like this.
This doesn't follow. As soon as you introduce measurement accuracy on an analog signal, you can talk about bits of information.
...and the brain seems to be mixed analog/digital. Long distance pathways (e.g. to your feet) look roughly like asynchronous digital (for the obvious reason than it's hard to reliably move an analog signal that far).
In any case, the storage question is not currently answerable. We do a lot of compression, and we can adaptively learn to compress data that we see a lot of.
Do these people live in some country that funds its public schools? Americans seem to think it happens by magic. Buy software? With a $200 class budget for the entire year?
Our schools can't afford basic necessities, much less software.
And chances are the only software that will run on the 286 and 386 in American classrooms is either free or out of print.
yeah, same here. my first thought was excuse me... what about shorthand? or people who've learned to use different alphabets? seemed obviously bogus, though i thought it was fud, not satire, until seeing the disclaimer.
...a better cure seems to be variation. i can type longer on my wacked keyboard than a normal one, but for very long periods nothing works better than switching keyboards occasionally. changing the repetative motions is your best bet. i'm skeptical of any single keyboard as _the_ solution.
"every amarican should carry a firearm"?
We already tried that, in the American west. The result? A murder rate higher than our worst inner cities today.
When people have weapons, they use them. Not a difficult equation, and it's been true throughout history. The armed population that chooses not to use its weapons remains completely hypothetical. (Obviously some people can, but it breaks down in the general case).
I fear banning would suffer the same problems as prohibition & the drug war, though. There are too many guns already here & it's near impossible to control something like that it a country this size.
The ocean of guns we live in will probably only change by changing our culture.
b.c.
In the end this is less an environmental threat than a waste of time. As previously noted, people starve for political, not technological reasons. We can feed the world today. Monsanto's claims that their technology will feed the world are false and self-serving, unless they plan to establish world peace and equity while they're at it.
GM crops primarily are designed to enforce a seed monopoly, e.g. "terminator" and "round-up ready".
It another context you might call it "gratuitous incompatibility".
Is anyone else reminded of Ken Kesey saying that the west coast is way ahead of the east coast, in the drug revolution, which he imagined was going to completely change the face of america? (as Jon says coming to SF from the east, people are more cluefull here).
In Kesey's case, the west may have been ahead, but only in as much as they are always ahead in the lastest fad (which seems silly a few years down the road). I wonder if this revolution will seem similarly hollow in another decade. Will it really change the way we live, or will we merely see the same power structures we have now, slightly modified to fit on the web?
I would like to see a change in power. E.g. the local paper is a useless conservative rag barely better than the national enquirer. I'd love to see a web alternative, but I don't see it happening. With one paper dominating & a minority of people who get news online, it looks to be a long struggle.
I can tell you first hand there are American employees working for Cisco who pronounce it "rooter". Who cares? What a stupid thing to diss on Gore for.
I picked up one of these, thinking it would help. I didn't. The chicklet keys are horrible, and fatigue my fingers very quickly. Also the device is not tapered toward the shorter fingers, so I can't get it in a position where all fingers can comfortably hit any of the three keys. It's worse on my wrist than a normal keyboard, by far.
I'd much prefer a two-handed design, with one key per finger (no stretching), or perhaps two for index or thumb. Also soft keys, not chicklet.
Here's a homebrew ergo keyboard made with surplus parts, total cost $14. I was going to put this up next week, but since we're on the topic, I threw this page together this morning.
http://thecraftstudio.com/bcboy
Disclaimer: if you can't use powertools safely, or use of this design makes your arms fall off, it's not my fault. Use at your own risk.
After seeing "pootpoot", I checked to see if it would pootify *any* page of slashdot. Apparently, it will. Go to the pootpoot page & you can find this article (look for ESR or OSI -- they seem to survive pootification).
:)
Example:
poot Poot I SAY!!!!
by Pootpoot Poot on Pootpoot Pootpoot 18, @09:37AM
Poot Poot is poot, RMS is poot, ESR is the poot poot of all, but poot poot poot!!!!!
poot poot out the poot!!!!!!!!
Really, it's much better.
b.c.