You see - MS's customers are demanding it - and MS is trying to deliver - after all, their competition (mostly) is delivering. (See, this is why F/OSS is good for you even if you dont use it:)
Anyway, I do think MS is making an attempt to take security seriously, but security needs are ultimately outshadowed by their marketing needs.
Anyway, to bring things (mildly) back on topic, I'll repeat myself:
Note to Microsoft
We have more then enough hat colours as things stand.
Blue Hat hacker sounds like an IBM employee anyway (or an Anti-Fedora agent?)
You didn't address my comment on the Spotlight rip off. Pursuade me that Gnome coders didn't see Spotlight and think, "That's great - we should reimplement it in Gnome".
*sighs*
I think it would have been obvious from my previous comment what I think about "x is ripping off x" in GUI design. It just doens't happen.
Anyway, hard Drive indexing is not new. Web-style search interfaces are not new. Spotlight was not the first to combine the two. I think the gnome coders have been exposed to a hell of alot more software ideas & concepts then you have - just because os x is the first place you saw a particular concept doesn't mean its the first place that concept appeared.
At least Gnome is taking ideas from OS X, and not being a total clone of Windows like KDE is.
Uh huh. KDE is not a total (or even partial) clone of Windows. It is tremendously more useful.
You're thinking of xpde I think (note that project does not use anything copyrighted so isn't 'ripping off' either)
I mean things like "Fast User Switching" - they could at least have called that something different, and the "DeskBar" which is basically look identical to the Spotlight search bar on Mac. Like it or not, Gnome coders are taking the best of Windows and Mac OSX and putting it into Gnome
"Fast User Switching" is a terrible example to use. Microsoft beat OS X to that punch, and itself was only an incremental improvement over linux, where you could run multiple x servers concurrently and switch between them. Micsoft polished up this linux feature (alot) and os x improved on Microsoft's version even more.
there is little original in Gnome, as nice as it is.
There is little original in any windowing environment - if you got out a little more you'd realise that everyone's borrowing from everyone else. The only real innovation I can think of in windowing environments in the last 25 odd years is probably overlapping windows.
Also, don't start on the whole "OS X uses open source software so its OK to the OS X GUI". Open source software specifically grants a license to be used on operating systems. Just because Apple takes them up on that offer, doesn't mean its OK to rip Apple's UI off.
No, I think "It's OK to copy user interface paradigms as they're uncopyrightable."
Apple obviously thinks so too - or they wouldn't have "ripped off" (as you put it) tabbed browsing, fast user switching and a plethora of other features from other GUIs.
Well they're certainly doing a good job of copying stuff out of OS X, even if they're not trying to!;)
I'm not too sure what you mean.
Do you mean a GUI on top of a unix kernel? (Gnome did that before os x)
Do you mean transparancy (existed in gnome before os x existed - even if it was an ugly hack)
Do you mean using common Open Source tools like apache & ssh? (These are tools that os x has copied from the open source community)
os x is cool, but much of what it does not particularly new or revolutionary, just polished. It would be more accurate to say gnome & os x share alot due to their common unix heritage.
Re:Glad to see menu editing has been fixed
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I am so glad to see that Gnome 2.14 has fixed menu editing,
Wait - I'm being handed a message Parent must be trolling as a menu editor has been included since Gnome 2.12
Easiest way to check it out....
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Is to grab an Ubuntu Dapper preview live CD (and best of all, it's not an install CD, so ubuntu won't email your cleartext password to world + dog [joke])
It's pretty nice! I've been using the pre-releases for a while....
There is at least one missing law: The robot must know that he is a robot.
And he must know what a human is.
I'm going to ask - did Asimov not cover these scenarious? I seem to recall reading an Asimov short story in which human piloted spaceships were getting blown away by robot piloted ones.
The robot spaceships obeyed the laws, but not knowing better thought the ships they were battling were also robotic.
Can't remember the title (and I'm not even sure it was a real Asimov story or one by a different Author set in his Universe). I've done a quick search, but can't find it... anyone else remember something like that?
Re:Maybe interesting as an exercise...
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Please reread the comment you were replying to. In particular, the line:
that will extremely useful to a significant amount of people even if you can't see the point of it.
actually boot Windows on a Mac. That's like putting 87 octane gas in a formula 1 car!
Its kinda like the people who dual boot windows & linux. They can already run wine, they can already use vmware / bochs, but for some applications that just doesn't really cut it.
It will soon be trivial to tri-boot os x, windows & linux on a single machine - that will extremely useful to a significant amount of people even if you can't see the point of it.
What's the point here, anyhow? Besides games, and maybe some MS development stuff, why run Windows on a PC??
You do realise you answered your own question don't you?
Anyway, whilst I don't like or run windows at home, I keep a spare 1GB partition with my old legal copy of win2k on it.
Why? Because I think two operating systems are better then one - and its not exactly like its hard work (or much overhead) to set up a dual boot these days.
If companies treat their employees like criminals, they are likely to get what they expect.
While I can certainly understand why you say that, the article's headline 'the enemy within the firewall' was a bit of a troll.
More like 'the hapless idiot within the firewall' because the article is more about external attacker using employees's as a vector rather then the employees themselves being the attacker.
And really - when I say 'the hapless idiot' I'm being far too harsh - after all, it only takes inserting a music CD to potentially install a rootkit on a company's (windows) PC.
The term "FLA" should not be used because it is not itself a "FLA" -- "FLA" is merely a "TLA". The term you're looking for is "ETLA", or "extended three letter acronym".
Unless we want to put together a community project to fund an advert in New York Times for every open source project it probably makes more sense to pick obvious names.
I take your point about advertising and brand recognition - however, the flip side of the coin is brand protection.
I know its not a registered trademark - but taking a unique name like 'ekiga' rather then 'openconference or similar means:
1) It's less likely the domain name has been registered.
2) Its harder for someone to muscle in on your business using a similar name (in the event your project's a success).
3) Once you do make it to the bigtime, you've got a fanciful mark ready to go.
Re:Ekiga? What the hell is an Ekiga?
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Of course, everyone can immediately tell what skype does.
Seriously, is anyone else getting a little sick of the plethora of "me too" comments about the appropriateness of a software product's name on slashdot?
XP SP2 is a year and half old. And I still can't do lots of things (like full use of a USB thumb drive) using a non-priviliged account (not to mention that the default install on my Microsoft-partnered laptop came with the user accounts having full admin priviliges)
Your 'Vista will fix it' argument is quite frankly, the same thing I've heard about XP SP2, Win2k, NT4, & NT 3.5. It wasn't true for those operating systems and I doubt it will be true for vista.
I don't even know what shareware means anymore - $30?
Such as I've used it to all at one time for 100+ photos, perform an "auto levels", reduce the file size so they're easier to e-mail, and create a basic thumbnail Web-ready batch. You can do probably 100 or more tasks this way.
Imagemagick is will scale to several orders of magnitude higher then 100 images, do everything you mention, and be infinitely more flexible. Give it a shot.
Just create an action which does what you want, then you can export an "EXE" which takes as command line argument the file you want to process, and optionally, the output. Works like a charm.
Maybe the author should have said 'useful commmand line processing' or similar.
1) Exes are not very useful for osx or linux users.
2) You need a copy of photoshop for every server you wish to run your exported exe on.
3) You have to create a different 'exe' for each action.
Photoshop is not even slightly useful for the sort of areas that imagemagick excels in.
You've still got a problem: your password hits the command line multiple times. Command lines are public knowledge in Unix ("ps -f -u root"). You need to use something like:
echo PASSWD | grep -rf -/var/log
I'm not so sure that's correct.
When I say 'mypassword' above, I mean the literal string 'mypassword' - it will return my actual password in plain text true, but so will your command.
Also, wouldn't your command be a little more like:
grep -rf `echo $PASSWD`/var/log
I don't have a linux box handy to check with atm
Re:"Happy Face" way better than "The Face"
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Put that image in tie-dye relief colors, screen it on a t-shirt and you've got one product that will sell to millions of hippies world-wide.
Go to google mars, search for galle, look for it in 'elevations' mode & you get exactly that:-)
Slashdot Mirror
Could MS actually be taking security seriously?
Yes - yes they are.
You see - MS's customers are demanding it - and MS is trying to deliver - after all, their competition (mostly) is delivering. (See, this is why F/OSS is good for you even if you dont use it:)
Anyway, I do think MS is making an attempt to take security seriously, but security needs are ultimately outshadowed by their marketing needs.
Anyway, to bring things (mildly) back on topic, I'll repeat myself:
Note to Microsoft
We have more then enough hat colours as things stand.
Blue Hat hacker sounds like an IBM employee anyway (or an Anti-Fedora agent?)
You didn't address my comment on the Spotlight rip off. Pursuade me that Gnome coders didn't see Spotlight and think, "That's great - we should reimplement it in Gnome".
*sighs*
I think it would have been obvious from my previous comment what I think about "x is ripping off x" in GUI design. It just doens't happen.
Anyway, hard Drive indexing is not new. Web-style search interfaces are not new. Spotlight was not the first to combine the two. I think the gnome coders have been exposed to a hell of alot more software ideas & concepts then you have - just because os x is the first place you saw a particular concept doesn't mean its the first place that concept appeared.
At least Gnome is taking ideas from OS X, and not being a total clone of Windows like KDE is.
Uh huh. KDE is not a total (or even partial) clone of Windows. It is tremendously more useful.
You're thinking of xpde I think (note that project does not use anything copyrighted so isn't 'ripping off' either)
I mean things like "Fast User Switching" - they could at least have called that something different, and the "DeskBar" which is basically look identical to the Spotlight search bar on Mac. Like it or not, Gnome coders are taking the best of Windows and Mac OSX and putting it into Gnome
"Fast User Switching" is a terrible example to use. Microsoft beat OS X to that punch, and itself was only an incremental improvement over linux, where you could run multiple x servers concurrently and switch between them. Micsoft polished up this linux feature (alot) and os x improved on Microsoft's version even more.
there is little original in Gnome, as nice as it is.
There is little original in any windowing environment - if you got out a little more you'd realise that everyone's borrowing from everyone else. The only real innovation I can think of in windowing environments in the last 25 odd years is probably overlapping windows.
Also, don't start on the whole "OS X uses open source software so its OK to the OS X GUI". Open source software specifically grants a license to be used on operating systems. Just because Apple takes them up on that offer, doesn't mean its OK to rip Apple's UI off.
No, I think "It's OK to copy user interface paradigms as they're uncopyrightable."
Apple obviously thinks so too - or they wouldn't have "ripped off" (as you put it) tabbed browsing, fast user switching and a plethora of other features from other GUIs.
Well they're certainly doing a good job of copying stuff out of OS X, even if they're not trying to! ;)
I'm not too sure what you mean.
Do you mean a GUI on top of a unix kernel? (Gnome did that before os x)
Do you mean transparancy (existed in gnome before os x existed - even if it was an ugly hack)
Do you mean using common Open Source tools like apache & ssh? (These are tools that os x has copied from the open source community)
os x is cool, but much of what it does not particularly new or revolutionary, just polished. It would be more accurate to say gnome & os x share alot due to their common unix heritage.
Wait - I'm being handed a message Parent must be trolling as a menu editor has been included since Gnome 2.12
Oh - and that page includes the line:
So, does eye candy get any closer to Mac OS looks?
No.
1) You're thinking of the new gl effects in xorg x clients. This is a desktop environment release.
2) Gnome is not attempting to copy os x, but create a new desktop environment. So your metric (closer to Mac OS) is a false one.
Wake me up when someone lets me run Windows binaries *inside* Intel OSX. That is the achievement.
*shakes brunes69 on shoulder* Wake up dude!
Here you go!
(I know what you meant)
Is to grab an Ubuntu Dapper preview live CD (and best of all, it's not an install CD, so ubuntu won't email your cleartext password to world + dog [joke])
It's pretty nice! I've been using the pre-releases for a while....
Thanks very much!
:-)
I new someone here would know
There is at least one missing law: The robot must know that he is a robot.
And he must know what a human is.
I'm going to ask - did Asimov not cover these scenarious? I seem to recall reading an Asimov short story in which human piloted spaceships were getting blown away by robot piloted ones.
The robot spaceships obeyed the laws, but not knowing better thought the ships they were battling were also robotic.
Can't remember the title (and I'm not even sure it was a real Asimov story or one by a different Author set in his Universe). I've done a quick search, but can't find it... anyone else remember something like that?
Well than! Ill try to remember that in future.
actually boot Windows on a Mac. That's like putting 87 octane gas in a formula 1 car!
Its kinda like the people who dual boot windows & linux. They can already run wine, they can already use vmware / bochs, but for some applications that just doesn't really cut it.
It will soon be trivial to tri-boot os x, windows & linux on a single machine - that will extremely useful to a significant amount of people even if you can't see the point of it.
What's the point here, anyhow? Besides games, and maybe some MS development stuff, why run Windows on a PC??
You do realise you answered your own question don't you?
Anyway, whilst I don't like or run windows at home, I keep a spare 1GB partition with my old legal copy of win2k on it.
Why? Because I think two operating systems are better then one - and its not exactly like its hard work (or much overhead) to set up a dual boot these days.
If companies treat their employees like criminals, they are likely to get what they expect.
While I can certainly understand why you say that, the article's headline 'the enemy within the firewall' was a bit of a troll.
More like 'the hapless idiot within the firewall' because the article is more about external attacker using employees's as a vector rather then the employees themselves being the attacker.
And really - when I say 'the hapless idiot' I'm being far too harsh - after all, it only takes inserting a music CD to potentially install a rootkit on a company's (windows) PC.
The term "FLA" should not be used because it is not itself a "FLA" -- "FLA" is merely a "TLA". The term you're looking for is "ETLA", or "extended three letter acronym".
:-)
Hahahahaha
I bow to the master.
That should read FLA (or possibly MLA) explanations.
;-)
Because not one of those acronyms is a TLA
I take your point about advertising and brand recognition - however, the flip side of the coin is brand protection.
I know its not a registered trademark - but taking a unique name like 'ekiga' rather then 'openconference or similar means:
Of course, everyone can immediately tell what skype does.
Seriously, is anyone else getting a little sick of the plethora of "me too" comments about the appropriateness of a software product's name on slashdot?
XP is six years old...
No. XP is 4 1/2 years old.
XP SP2 is a year and half old. And I still can't do lots of things (like full use of a USB thumb drive) using a non-priviliged account (not to mention that the default install on my Microsoft-partnered laptop came with the user accounts having full admin priviliges)
Your 'Vista will fix it' argument is quite frankly, the same thing I've heard about XP SP2, Win2k, NT4, & NT 3.5. It wasn't true for those operating systems and I doubt it will be true for vista.
Not even remotely like imagemagick - why don't you just download the os x native port?
And, it's shareware too.
From the GraphicConverter website: I don't even know what shareware means anymore - $30?
Such as I've used it to all at one time for 100+ photos, perform an "auto levels", reduce the file size so they're easier to e-mail, and create a basic thumbnail Web-ready batch. You can do probably 100 or more tasks this way.
Imagemagick is will scale to several orders of magnitude higher then 100 images, do everything you mention, and be infinitely more flexible. Give it a shot.
Just create an action which does what you want, then you can export an "EXE" which takes as command line argument the file you want to process, and optionally, the output. Works like a charm.
Maybe the author should have said 'useful commmand line processing' or similar.
1) Exes are not very useful for osx or linux users.
2) You need a copy of photoshop for every server you wish to run your exported exe on.
3) You have to create a different 'exe' for each action.
Photoshop is not even slightly useful for the sort of areas that imagemagick excels in.
Please read the whole thread.
echo PASSWD | grep -rf -
I'm not so sure that's correct.
When I say 'mypassword' above, I mean the literal string 'mypassword' - it will return my actual password in plain text true, but so will your command.
Also, wouldn't your command be a little more like:I don't have a linux box handy to check with atm
Put that image in tie-dye relief colors, screen it on a t-shirt and you've got one product that will sell to millions of hippies world-wide.
:-)
Go to google mars, search for galle, look for it in 'elevations' mode & you get exactly that