Ahhh c'mon now. You belittle Americans as "small minded individuals" and then wrap up with a generalization and an emphatic "I say fsck the usa." Don't fall prey to the same behavior you abhor! Besides, I like the French. They are smart. They can't produce any software themselves (well.. unless you count Infogrames) but they are smart enough to purchase 90% of all US game developers! Croisant? Anyone?
Looks to me like he's soliciting money for a television ad. Regardless of the reason, he states it pretty clearly. Don't sound like such a victim here.
the *video* contains no such statement, I *think* that was on the web site on which it was posted.
the video looks real -- like some crackpot and his gang of thugs is planning to start some sh%^ in times square. he pans around to different views, landmarks, mentions specific street blocks where people are to position themselves, etc...
regardless, your point is well taken! i downloaded the video before reading the article and it immediately kicks into the operational logistics of the "mission" and it is pretty disturbing! IMHO, anyway! thank goodness it is a joke(art?).
i *do* bet, however that there will indeed be violent crackpots there for the big apple drop. if they say that they viewed the video when caught... our artist might get some unwelcomed publicity!
ok... watched the video first and now read the village voice article. it gives the needed context.
I think distributing the RAM file without the entire site or SOMETHING to give it proper context is bad. the video alone *is* a bit too scary for my tastes and *is* akin to shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.
remember, your civil rights end when the encroach on another's. the moment I am trampled by a crowd due to some moron's fake "FIRE!" scream is just past the moment his rights ended... and the moment I whip his ass! hehehehe:P
I just watched the video. It is rather pathetic and scary. I would have to see how the video was presented within the context of the entire site to really know what he meant by it.
The video itself talks of:
- rioting in Times Square when Y2K drops - rape ("our lady" gets stripped and we've got a front row seat) - racial hatred (use the "black thing" with sympathetic white folks nearby) - gun fire (hot lead will be flying)
it generally depicts someone's plan to surround the area and trigger a riot. he talks like it's a military operation and never shows his face.
granted, it does seem like a complete hoax, but it is still spooky.
Upon first attempt, same here... simply trying again got me in. keep on trying! ===
I just read the entire exchange. His actions are grounds for termination... as a MARKETING director, part of his job is to manage relationships with customers (direct or indirect) and he has just caused any consumer who reads that story to lose trust in his company's words.
perhaps you could come over and see how many times my lovely Netscape Navigator 4.7 has completely hung my XF/GNONE/E desktop with nothing more running than XMMS?
there are times when i would *prefer* a BSOD.
btw: I would wager that 90% of slashdot readers are windows users, don't program, and have only seen screenshots of linux or maybe just installed RH once or twice. that's what makes me laugh through all this. thanks guys.
Can you recall the days when geeks were a dormant, lackluster commercial audience? I can.
Can you recall the days when book stores threw up the "computer books" section next to "SciFi" as an afterthought? I can.
Can you recall looking at the shelves only to discover that Mr. O'Reilly seemed to be the only one willing to take a chance with us, to believe that *nix-based texts did have a place in the market? I can. And I was damn pleased. Sybex, Wrox, you name it, they all pale in comparison to the technical tomes written under his tenure as publisher. People refer to some of those books as bibles or like supermodels: with short names and nicknames:
"The Bat Book" and "D&B" are two of my favorites!
Tim should be thanked.
Have a nice day. Coward.
Oh, and once you write or publish a technical text, I might give your words a bit more credibility.
I wonder why Visio's mgmt isn't as passionate about their product as you all. If it is known that MS is going to ruin the product, relegate it to a mere Office 98 add-in, introduce nothing but feature bloat, etc... wouldn't Visio's people be as smart as most of the/.'ers here?
You guys are a bit much at times. I, for one, like: the COM-enabled Microsoft suite of products, the common look-and-feel, the larger audience that will come as a result of Microsoft's distribution (thus the great number of supporters), and the probable lower price. Have you guys PRICED Visio Technical lately?
Stop bashing for the sake of bashing and open your eyes a little bit. If Microsoft DOES trash it, you have no one to blame but Visio themselves.
A case like this would lean towards the defendant because the current supreme court is rather conservative.
huh? Which Supreme Court are you talking about? Justice Scalia is one of the only "conservatives" on the court. His frustration with the his more "liberal" peers on the is well known.
I agree with you, however. The current court would favor the defendent because it is a more moderate to liberal court, not because it is a conservative one.
Note:This should in now way label me as either conservative or liberal. I'm neither. I hate it all. I'm just one curious little mofo.
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Ahhh c'mon now. You belittle Americans as "small minded individuals" and then wrap up with a generalization and an emphatic "I say fsck the usa." Don't fall prey to the same behavior you abhor! Besides, I like the French. They are smart. They can't produce any software themselves (well.. unless you count Infogrames) but they are smart enough to purchase 90% of all US game developers! Croisant? Anyone?
3? Insightful?
What has happened to the moderation system these last few months?
Didn't you already say this in msg #59?
Looks to me like he's soliciting money for a television ad. Regardless of the reason, he states it pretty clearly. Don't sound like such a victim here.
-1? Redundant? I thought that was kinda funny!
And who told you this? AC.
Good job! You should also note the incorrect use of the contraction "it's" -- read "it is". The possessive "its" is called for here.
:P
But hey... "communication" is all about context and understanding. I think we all understood what he meant, no?
the *video* contains no such statement, I *think* that was on the web site on which it was posted.
the video looks real -- like some crackpot and his gang of thugs is planning to start some sh%^ in times square. he pans around to different views, landmarks, mentions specific street blocks where people are to position themselves, etc...
regardless, your point is well taken! i downloaded the video before reading the article and it immediately kicks into the operational logistics of the "mission" and it is pretty disturbing! IMHO, anyway! thank goodness it is a joke(art?).
i *do* bet, however that there will indeed be violent crackpots there for the big apple drop. if they say that they viewed the video when caught... our artist might get some unwelcomed publicity!
ok... watched the video first and now read the village voice article. it gives the needed context.
:P
I think distributing the RAM file without the entire site or SOMETHING to give it proper context is bad. the video alone *is* a bit too scary for my tastes and *is* akin to shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.
remember, your civil rights end when the encroach on another's. the moment I am trampled by a crowd due to some moron's fake "FIRE!" scream is just past the moment his rights ended... and the moment I whip his ass! hehehehe
woah dude. you are taking this stuff WAY too seriously.
because it has seconds and tenths of seconds, it's a "bomb-like" mechanism?
you crack me up!
I just watched the video. It is rather pathetic and scary. I would have to see how the video was presented within the context of the entire site to really know what he meant by it.
The video itself talks of:
- rioting in Times Square when Y2K drops
- rape ("our lady" gets stripped and we've got a front row seat)
- racial hatred (use the "black thing" with sympathetic white folks nearby)
- gun fire (hot lead will be flying)
it generally depicts someone's plan to surround the area and trigger a riot. he talks like it's a military operation and never shows his face.
granted, it does seem like a complete hoax, but it is still spooky.
Upon first attempt, same here... simply trying again got me in. keep on trying!
===
I just read the entire exchange. His actions are grounds for termination... as a MARKETING director, part of his job is to manage relationships with customers (direct or indirect) and he has just caused any consumer who reads that story to lose trust in his company's words.
my $.02
this from an intelligent, open-minded Harvard student?
don't generalize. it makes you look foolish.
4? Insightful?
First: "Microsoft could keep their hands out of this."
Then: "Ok, if multiple vendors wish to put out various chat software, at least allow them to communicate with each other."
Microsoft's actions will hopefully force AOL to submit to an open standard. They have actually HELPED by having their hands in this. get it?
4? Insightful?
ahahhahahahaah
wait. let me think about this one again.
ahhahahahahahahaha
perhaps you could come over and see how many times my lovely Netscape Navigator 4.7 has completely hung my XF/GNONE/E desktop with nothing more running than XMMS?
there are times when i would *prefer* a BSOD.
btw:
I would wager that 90% of slashdot readers are windows users, don't program, and have only seen screenshots of linux or maybe just installed RH once or twice. that's what makes me laugh through all this. thanks guys.
so!!?!?!? What was the freakin answer?
heheh... I'm no Perl expert and don't care to figure it out myself. Hook a lazy brother up!
2? I wonder 'bout you cats sometimes.
... but you, my friend, are not.
Can you recall the days when geeks were a dormant, lackluster commercial audience? I can.
Can you recall the days when book stores threw up the "computer books" section next to "SciFi" as an afterthought? I can.
Can you recall looking at the shelves only to discover that Mr. O'Reilly seemed to be the only one willing to take a chance with us, to believe that *nix-based texts did have a place in the market? I can. And I was damn pleased. Sybex, Wrox, you name it, they all pale in comparison to the technical tomes written under his tenure as publisher. People refer to some of those books as bibles or like supermodels: with short names and nicknames:
"The Bat Book" and "D&B" are two of my favorites!
Tim should be thanked.
Have a nice day. Coward.
Oh, and once you write or publish a technical text, I might give your words a bit more credibility.
uhhmm. not exactly true. it works with any Windows registered script language. VBScript, JavaScript, or Perl name name three. ;^P
Yes. even on the server-side.
I wonder why Visio's mgmt isn't as passionate about their product as you all. If it is known that MS is going to ruin the product, relegate it to a mere Office 98 add-in, introduce nothing but feature bloat, etc... wouldn't Visio's people be as smart as most of the /.'ers here?
You guys are a bit much at times. I, for one, like: the COM-enabled Microsoft suite of products, the common look-and-feel, the larger audience that will come as a result of Microsoft's distribution (thus the great number of supporters), and the probable lower price. Have you guys PRICED Visio Technical lately?
Stop bashing for the sake of bashing and open your eyes a little bit. If Microsoft DOES trash it, you have no one to blame but Visio themselves.
2? Interesting? What's new here that isn't a "given" or in the article?
Sometimes I wonder about my dear Slashdot.
It just brings home the fact that we are a small and arguably insignificant part of the universe.
Humbling, no? So beautiful.
Reminds me of a Radiohead song or three. hehehe
Leave it to someone to bring it to a U.S. vs. thing.
Did you read the article about the perils of "generalizing" for Howard Stern? Well... read and learn my friend.
Great. Hack into their site. They display your IP address for everyone else in the world to hack into.
No thanks. I already got stung by the last wuftpd exploit.
huh? Which Supreme Court are you talking about? Justice Scalia is one of the only "conservatives" on the court. His frustration with the his more "liberal" peers on the is well known.
I agree with you, however. The current court would favor the defendent because it is a more moderate to liberal court, not because it is a conservative one.
Note: This should in now way label me as either conservative or liberal. I'm neither. I hate it all. I'm just one curious little mofo.