Actually none of the terrorists were muslims i dont think the religion really supports killing lots of people so you can get into heaven with 70 virgin sex-slaves its more of a psudo religion made up by the people in charge similar to other cults you see in america from time to time (such as when they have big shoot-outs and mass suicides)
All I can say is.. lighters and matches are not banned while smoking is, no one in the government has bothered to explain or do anything about this, that scene in Farenheit 911 where the guard says the woman can only have 4 books of matches just sums up the whole security thing. No one even talks about this!
Nah they're either stupid or they want to spy on everyone, now id really love to think that they wanted to spy on everyone because it would mean they wernt totally stupid, but, i think they are just stupid.
The point is the Olympic games are supposed to be some great tradition, the IOC is always going on about the "purity" of the Olympic name being lost when magazines with topless athletes come out but really they are screwing with the Olympics themselves. No-one asked for the games to be commercialised and the grounds to suddenly become the most lavish expensive fireworks show ever, sure it costs money to do but it could have been cheaper - what it amounts to is would you rather have the super-tastic Olympics with no expense spared but with fascist security guards enforcing dress code or would you rather have a simpler less expensive games where it really is about the games and not coke? Its not their property to sell off. The people wernt given any say, and i really cant help thinking that someone is making a hell of a lot of money off this.
Well now that means they can be arrested under the PATRIOT Act (which also applies to Greece because.. well it just does!) Damn terrorists always terroising people with their Puma t-shirts!
I think it will provide a good income to pick-pockets, gangs will get together with rfid scanners walking around airports reading peoples cards and selling the data for a big proffit. They wont even need to touch you! and think of all the places they could get you - stick a reader under a chair in a cafe or waiting area and just reap in all the data you get, taxi-drivers in dodgy places want to earn some extra? let the local mob fit your car out with readers in the seats. RFID readers will be hacked and will be availiable to the public or atleast criminals and whats more they will be getting allot smaller and cheaper. People are already corrupt and even if you can guarentee customs/police/id-makers are straight in your own country you cant guarentee it in other countries using barcode encryption might work for a while but what happens when a real reader is comprimised?
this is not an excuse to use a highly insecure method of digital ID when a more secure method is availiable. fine if people want this then they can have it, but we should certainly have a choice - you can either have an RFID card or a smart card, and if your smart card breaks it was your choice. Even so its not like your using a blank passport it still contains the written information printed on the card and you could allow people to fly back home based on that, at home the customs people will sort you out with making sure you are who you say you are and getting you a new passport.
Wow this is the only post thats even come close to explaining the insane idea of using RFID where smart-cards would do. thanks. Even so it doesnt stop tracking by anyone who knows the key, and any reader thats scanned your card could potentially give away the key, either to the government (tin-foil time) or someone else. personally i still think RFID is a stupid idea and if they really want to go digital, smart cards are the way to go, even if it does mean replacing the card when it wears out.
"RFID chips don't need to be readable from that far away, some will only work from a few centimeters away, which would be enough."
I cant believe im hearing this crap on/. security by saying your wireless product can only go x meters is _not_ security. EMF is complex and underrated and even if you cant make the range bigger, 1cm is enough to get the data, a pick-pocket in a busy place can lift your whole wallet! so imagine what someone with a small reader can do.
"Passports over here last for ten years. If you actually GO overseas a lot, then you don't want the guy at customs in whatever country to accidently break the card when it get pushed into the slot."
Lets not forget this is a dual passport, all the information is still contained on the paper. Readers can be designed to handle the whole thing - hell most card readers these days will suck the card in for you. Smart-cards have been in general use for years and theres hardly a problem with them. Magnetic strips (though they have much less storage space) have been around even longer! I stick my cards in holes everyday (heh) and they dont get screwed (hehe) i cant believe a security argument rests on some dumb customs guy bending your card.
Use normal smart-cards instead of RFID and the whole tracking problem disappears, so far no-one has been able to reasonably explain why RFID is used, sure you could have mandatory card readers everywhere to get into buildings etc but atleast people would be more aware of it if they had to actually get their card out. Are the people really going to just accept the government saying "were using RFID because smart cards wear out."
so its true? this whole thing is totally insane! passports get old and expire, everything gets old! if your passport gets wet you can get another one. lets find an analogy: pilots cost money, while they wait around for the plane to refuel they are loosing the airline money. lets take all the pilots off the planes and stick them in a control centre where they remotely fly the planes. as soon as one lands they are assigned to another one. also the cockpit wastes allot of space that could be used for passengers!
true with anything digital theres always the potential that you can create an exact copy so perfect that there simply is no way to tell the difference, a 1 is a 1 and a 0 is a 0. With anything else theres always tons of evidence, everything form minute bits of DNA, finger-prints, the wrong type of paper/card/ink or the exact same chemical makup thats in a batch that was reported stolen from somewhere. Even lazer printers have been prooven to show minute defects from the drum that can be used to identify a particular printer. Sure all this evidence will stop when people finally find ways around it but untill then the physical world just cant be forged like the digital world.
Ok ive RTFA and it doesn't explain anywhere why these things need RFID. There's absolutely no reason for it! Sticking all this information on standard 'smart-cards' would be just as effective (well i don't know how effective or what its really supposed to do anyway but it would produce the same effect). In the article it just says these are designed to only operate up to 10cm (we all know what that means) but 10cm is still enough for someone to scan your back pocket! The only possible argument is that the contacts on chips wear out and people are too lazy to stick their cards in a reader! That's not an argument. So the only thing we can conclude is:
the people in charge of this are: a) totally stupid b) totally ignorant c) getting a buy 1bn get 1bn free deal on RFID d) designing this so they can scan people without their knowledge
WTF?!?! this totally insane you cant justify sticking a remotely accessible device on your passport because "contacts wear out" and "people are too dumb to stick a card in a hole" - if you cant stick something in a hole then you're not exactly prime for reproducing the species!
Seriously im all for storing a picture of the person on their card if it makes general facial recognition easier but why the fuck does it need to be RFID someone please explain why a normal chip on the card would not do?
It wont fly, if the copy is good enough so that a human cant tell the difference then its certainly a copy to the court and if they can tell the difference but the quality and completeness is determined to be high enough by the court then its also a copy. But its certainly not an exact copy and its obviously not the same as stealing the CD off the shelf. Its not piracy because piracy means you're selling it on for a profit. And its not denying a sale because its prooven that a) many people buy what they download and b) some people would have just not bought it anyway, in a shoplifting case that wouldnt hold up "well i wouldnt have been able to afford it your honour so i stole it" but this isnt shoplifting, the item is still on the shelf.
Copying the song from the CD or downloading it if you own the CD is fair use and running filesharing software is also legal. If you were sharing music with friends the courts/RIAA wouldnt be able to pull their weight (no-one is going to take that) so what it boils down to is allowing the file to be shared from your computer to random people and/or downloading material that you dont have a license for. You could argue that its up to the people who share to make sure that they get proof that you own the CD before they give you the file or you could argue its upto the downloader to make sure they have the CD. In a gun shop its up to the owner to make sure the customer has the license to buy the gun, same thing in a bar. Either way P2P networks are just going to get more close-nit (you will have to be a friend of a friend to share) and more decntralised so it should be abit harder for the RIAA to get their lambs.
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Actually none of the terrorists were muslims i dont think the religion really supports killing lots of people so you can get into heaven with 70 virgin sex-slaves its more of a psudo religion made up by the people in charge similar to other cults you see in america from time to time (such as when they have big shoot-outs and mass suicides)
I've already boycotted the US, i dont do fingerprints.
I dunno why.. some pesky little thing called "The Bill of Rights"?
All I can say is.. lighters and matches are not banned while smoking is, no one in the government has bothered to explain or do anything about this, that scene in Farenheit 911 where the guard says the woman can only have 4 books of matches just sums up the whole security thing. No one even talks about this!
Nah they're either stupid or they want to spy on everyone, now id really love to think that they wanted to spy on everyone because it would mean they wernt totally stupid, but, i think they are just stupid.
The point is the Olympic games are supposed to be some great tradition, the IOC is always going on about the "purity" of the Olympic name being lost when magazines with topless athletes come out but really they are screwing with the Olympics themselves. No-one asked for the games to be commercialised and the grounds to suddenly become the most lavish expensive fireworks show ever, sure it costs money to do but it could have been cheaper - what it amounts to is would you rather have the super-tastic Olympics with no expense spared but with fascist security guards enforcing dress code or would you rather have a simpler less expensive games where it really is about the games and not coke? Its not their property to sell off. The people wernt given any say, and i really cant help thinking that someone is making a hell of a lot of money off this.
Well now that means they can be arrested under the PATRIOT Act (which also applies to Greece because.. well it just does!) Damn terrorists always terroising people with their Puma t-shirts!
I think it will provide a good income to pick-pockets, gangs will get together with rfid scanners walking around airports reading peoples cards and selling the data for a big proffit. They wont even need to touch you! and think of all the places they could get you - stick a reader under a chair in a cafe or waiting area and just reap in all the data you get, taxi-drivers in dodgy places want to earn some extra? let the local mob fit your car out with readers in the seats. RFID readers will be hacked and will be availiable to the public or atleast criminals and whats more they will be getting allot smaller and cheaper. People are already corrupt and even if you can guarentee customs/police/id-makers are straight in your own country you cant guarentee it in other countries using barcode encryption might work for a while but what happens when a real reader is comprimised?
how about "0w3nZd Air"
this is not an excuse to use a highly insecure method of digital ID when a more secure method is availiable. fine if people want this then they can have it, but we should certainly have a choice - you can either have an RFID card or a smart card, and if your smart card breaks it was your choice. Even so its not like your using a blank passport it still contains the written information printed on the card and you could allow people to fly back home based on that, at home the customs people will sort you out with making sure you are who you say you are and getting you a new passport.
Wow this is the only post thats even come close to explaining the insane idea of using RFID where smart-cards would do. thanks. Even so it doesnt stop tracking by anyone who knows the key, and any reader thats scanned your card could potentially give away the key, either to the government (tin-foil time) or someone else. personally i still think RFID is a stupid idea and if they really want to go digital, smart cards are the way to go, even if it does mean replacing the card when it wears out.
"RFID chips don't need to be readable from that far away, some will only work from a few centimeters away, which would be enough."
/. security by saying your wireless product can only go x meters is _not_ security. EMF is complex and underrated and even if you cant make the range bigger, 1cm is enough to get the data, a pick-pocket in a busy place can lift your whole wallet! so imagine what someone with a small reader can do.
I cant believe im hearing this crap on
"Passports over here last for ten years. If you actually GO overseas a lot, then you don't want the guy at customs in whatever country to accidently break the card when it get pushed into the slot."
Lets not forget this is a dual passport, all the information is still contained on the paper. Readers can be designed to handle the whole thing - hell most card readers these days will suck the card in for you. Smart-cards have been in general use for years and theres hardly a problem with them. Magnetic strips (though they have much less storage space) have been around even longer! I stick my cards in holes everyday (heh) and they dont get screwed (hehe) i cant believe a security argument rests on some dumb customs guy bending your card.
Use normal smart-cards instead of RFID and the whole tracking problem disappears, so far no-one has been able to reasonably explain why RFID is used, sure you could have mandatory card readers everywhere to get into buildings etc but atleast people would be more aware of it if they had to actually get their card out. Are the people really going to just accept the government saying "were using RFID because smart cards wear out."
so its true? this whole thing is totally insane! passports get old and expire, everything gets old! if your passport gets wet you can get another one. lets find an analogy: pilots cost money, while they wait around for the plane to refuel they are loosing the airline money. lets take all the pilots off the planes and stick them in a control centre where they remotely fly the planes. as soon as one lands they are assigned to another one. also the cockpit wastes allot of space that could be used for passengers!
true with anything digital theres always the potential that you can create an exact copy so perfect that there simply is no way to tell the difference, a 1 is a 1 and a 0 is a 0. With anything else theres always tons of evidence, everything form minute bits of DNA, finger-prints, the wrong type of paper/card/ink or the exact same chemical makup thats in a batch that was reported stolen from somewhere. Even lazer printers have been prooven to show minute defects from the drum that can be used to identify a particular printer. Sure all this evidence will stop when people finally find ways around it but untill then the physical world just cant be forged like the digital world.
Ok ive RTFA and it doesn't explain anywhere why these things need RFID. There's absolutely no reason for it! Sticking all this information on standard 'smart-cards' would be just as effective (well i don't know how effective or what its really supposed to do anyway but it would produce the same effect). In the article it just says these are designed to only operate up to 10cm (we all know what that means) but 10cm is still enough for someone to scan your back pocket! The only possible argument is that the contacts on chips wear out and people are too lazy to stick their cards in a reader! That's not an argument. So the only thing we can conclude is:
the people in charge of this are:
a) totally stupid
b) totally ignorant
c) getting a buy 1bn get 1bn free deal on RFID
d) designing this so they can scan people without their knowledge
take your pick.
WTF?!?! this totally insane you cant justify sticking a remotely accessible device on your passport because "contacts wear out" and "people are too dumb to stick a card in a hole" - if you cant stick something in a hole then you're not exactly prime for reproducing the species!
you are joking right? please tell me your taking the piss??!? so again, someone please seriously tell me why rfid is needed instead of a normal chip!?
Seriously im all for storing a picture of the person on their card if it makes general facial recognition easier but why the fuck does it need to be RFID someone please explain why a normal chip on the card would not do?
Ok i say we tow the thing to perl harbour, let them deal with it.
Ok America, this ones your problem so get your asses over here and pick it up.
Well.. yeah..
Same thing with biometrics - they dont want your pin-number anymore!
It wont fly, if the copy is good enough so that a human cant tell the difference then its certainly a copy to the court and if they can tell the difference but the quality and completeness is determined to be high enough by the court then its also a copy. But its certainly not an exact copy and its obviously not the same as stealing the CD off the shelf. Its not piracy because piracy means you're selling it on for a profit. And its not denying a sale because its prooven that a) many people buy what they download and b) some people would have just not bought it anyway, in a shoplifting case that wouldnt hold up "well i wouldnt have been able to afford it your honour so i stole it" but this isnt shoplifting, the item is still on the shelf.
Copying the song from the CD or downloading it if you own the CD is fair use and running filesharing software is also legal. If you were sharing music with friends the courts/RIAA wouldnt be able to pull their weight (no-one is going to take that) so what it boils down to is allowing the file to be shared from your computer to random people and/or downloading material that you dont have a license for. You could argue that its up to the people who share to make sure that they get proof that you own the CD before they give you the file or you could argue its upto the downloader to make sure they have the CD. In a gun shop its up to the owner to make sure the customer has the license to buy the gun, same thing in a bar. Either way P2P networks are just going to get more close-nit (you will have to be a friend of a friend to share) and more decntralised so it should be abit harder for the RIAA to get their lambs.
Lol i didnt RTFA or even notice it said "Window". I made a funny!