The ILOVEYOU worm just happened to be a VB Script. It could have also been recompiled into an EXE with trivial changes. It could have been coded in Perl, Delphi, C++, and so on. There's nothing special about things running in the scripting host.
The "I Love You" script weighs in at about 10k. Can you write an alternative with one of the tools you mentioned that will do everything it does and still be that size or smaller?
I'm not saying it can't be done, I don't know that much about the windows internals to do it myself, but it seems to me to be unlikely. I'd be happy to be corrected.
In order to propate the way ILOVEYOU did (quickly), you need to be small. This worm took only a few seconds at 56k to upload or download, so it could get on and off your system before you'd start drumming your fingers wondering what was eating up all your bandwidth.
Seems to me scripts can give you a big payload with a small profile.
Moog was/is cool but the music for Forbidden Planet (along with some others)was executed with Theremins (using vacuum tube technolgy) invented in the 30's.
Credit where credit is due: the score for "Forbidden Planet" was done by BeBe and Louis Barron, and they created the circuits themselves - true hackers. I'm not aware, however, that they used a theremin in that score.
Sorry if this is short on facts and cites, but perhaps it's better than nothing. The way I heard it, Arp did swipe the Moog filter design (and made some bloody good sounding synths, too). Moog got huffy until it was pointed out that they had swiped some keyboard scanning circuits from Arp.
RE: Walter vs Wendy - He/She has released work both pre- and post-op. Therefore any searches for information or albums should take into account both names. I think you're doing Ms. Carlos a favour by mentioning the former name.
Moog Music UK (not related to Bob Moog) is selling new Minimoogs.
Yeah, remakes. The good Dr. no longer owns his name, so the people at Moog aren't really Moog. For people who care.
Equal Time: Robert Moog does design and sell some pretty cool stuff under the name Moogerfooger - you can find info and order from BigBriar. Theremins too!
I bought his Ring Mod stompbox, I love it. Plus, signed by the man. Coolness!
(For people who don't know: "Moog" rhymes with "Rogue")
But do you have Deities and Demigods? The first print run, with the deities from the Elric fantasy series in it?
You betcha, when it first came out. And I remember vividly a copy of it being shown on a Televangelist show (Paul & Jan Crouch, I think) while they railed that all these pagan evil gawds were listed, but not JESUS!
And I remember thinking "well just how many hit points do ya recon Jesus has, anyhow?"
(Must not be many... only took a few 1st level Romans to nail'em up on that cross... talk about a gyp, being the Son 'O Jehova and only getting 1d6 HP!)
I'm tired of pointy-clicky internet services.. have been tired of said services since the day they came to be.. all they do is put newbies on the Internet that are completely LAME/trolls/etc.
You'll get used to it. After all, you watch television, right? Who do you think they customize that medium for, people who actually have some vague notion of how a TV works, or just the average shmuck that'll sit through the commercials / pay the cable bill?
Sturgeon's law applies to the TV as well as the internet - but I don't see a stampede of people disconnecting because of it. Evidently shit is in high demand.
Equally annoying things can occur. In the very last stages of my '85 Laser's life the CPU went wonky, and it would turn on the "Check Engine" light and limit RPMs to 3000. In my Spirit trouble detected by the tranny's controller would lock the think in 2nd gear.
The real question I was wondering is when do we get magnetic brakes? Since turntables are powered by magnets, why can't we use magnets to stop car wheels?
When we get a useful place to shed all that energy to. Diesel locomotives use regenerative braking, the have an array of huge resistor elements on the top of the beast that turn red-hot when they're engaged.
The best place to put that energy IMO would be a flywheel. I want a flywheel car! (and think just how hard it would be to roll over!:-)
Alas, too true. It's an evil undead vampiric corruption zombie hell-horse, that needs a stake through the heart, decapitation with the body quartered and sent to the four corners of the earth, a holy wafer put into the mouth of the head with the lips then sewn shut with black silk thread and then buried at a crossroads during a full moon.
...why did the supposedly wise Elves entrust this mission to a young hobbit with no military experience, supported by any friends he happened to pick up along the way?
My take is that a powerful force (ie, buncha bad-ass elves, assorted Rangers and a mottley wizard or three) would have been easy to track, observe, harass along the journey and then finally drop the million-ton s-hammer on, once they got in range.
So the decision was to send a "stealth" force. Remember that ol' Lidless Eyeball hisself hardly knew what a hobbit was... all he had to go on is what he wrung out of poor Smeagol.
What would have made more sense would have been to assemble said Mighty Elf Army, send it marching the long-way round, and act as a distraction for the A-team.
Well, now they think they can produce a carbon copy of a human being at will -- or worse yet, a modified copy which has exactly the characteristics they want: Obedience to secular authorities, low IQ, lack of imagination, lack of faith, etc.
This Black Helicopter moment has been brought to you by Genetic Engineering. At GE, we bring good things To Life.
For example, they can group information on age, race, social background and/or sell this data to companies to increase the bottomline with a more accurate profile of peoples spending habits. This data can then be used to define more specific target groups with commercials.
Simple question - how is this a bad thing?
I understand if you just want your privacy, there's no need to justify that. But for most people is it really a bad idea to let companies know what you like and dislike? What's the worst case scenario?
Customizing my advertising stream so I see the new Lego release in lieu of a new type of panty liner sounds good to me, and makes sense for the comanies involved.
Make sure you know where the funds are being drawn from when they write those checks!
Example: I pay bills electronically over the web via my bank's site (Huntington). When I say "Pay So-n-So Co $100" the bank debits $100 from my checking account, credits it to their account, and then cuts the check to the So-n-So Co from their account. Normally no big deal, but...
Once I paid a lawn service twice, my mistake - the nice lady at the service mailed back the 2nd check she recieved from the bank. Now I can't just throw this check out because it wasn't written from my account, the funds it represents have already been taken from me. And I can't cash the thing because it's made out to someone else. So I had to explain things (slowly, and several times) to Real Live People at the bank, and eventually it worked out. But just something to keep in mind.
Sure, it was good for it's time. However, it's time has long since passed. Any "new" Amiga won't be the same in any way.
I agree. But the question wasn't "What is so great about the Amiga", it was "What was so great..."
People have been obcessing over obsolete hardware for a long time - witness the number of vintage car collectors. They buy, sell, trade, refurbish (even replicate!) particular models that they especially love - even if by today's standards those cars are inefficient, bad handling, polluting or whatever. Telling one of these collectors to dump their '57 Mustang in favor of a "better" new car would be met with a "You don't get it" shake of the head. Same thing applies here, I think.
Pity that Commadore couldn't market eternal life if they'd had it in bottles.
I've never seen or used an Amiga, so can someone explain why they use that red & white ball to me?
It was an example of the hardware's ability to quickly and easily (ie, low CPU usage) move a big bunch of bits hither and tither. You could never have pulled that off on a PC or Mac at the time ('85). Way Back When it was impressive... but then, so were 3 1/2" diskettes.
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The ILOVEYOU worm just happened to be a VB Script. It could have also been recompiled into an EXE with trivial changes. It could have been coded in Perl, Delphi, C++, and so on. There's nothing special about things running in the scripting host.
The "I Love You" script weighs in at about 10k. Can you write an alternative with one of the tools you mentioned that will do everything it does and still be that size or smaller?
I'm not saying it can't be done, I don't know that much about the windows internals to do it myself, but it seems to me to be unlikely. I'd be happy to be corrected.
In order to propate the way ILOVEYOU did (quickly), you need to be small. This worm took only a few seconds at 56k to upload or download, so it could get on and off your system before you'd start drumming your fingers wondering what was eating up all your bandwidth.
Seems to me scripts can give you a big payload with a small profile.
The day you 'Merkins start painting crosses on the nosecones of your ICBMs is the day I move to the Moon.
It must be so terribly, terribly disapointing for you to realize that the only people who have actually been on the moon are... well, Americans.
Been There, Done That as they say.
Moog was/is cool but the music for Forbidden Planet (along with some others)was executed with Theremins (using vacuum tube technolgy) invented in the 30's.
Credit where credit is due: the score for "Forbidden Planet" was done by BeBe and Louis Barron, and they created the circuits themselves - true hackers. I'm not aware, however, that they used a theremin in that score.
Anybody know where to get good moog and mini-moog samples?
Sampling a Moog is like taking a snapshot of a ballet.
However, if you must...
RE: Patented filter...
Sorry if this is short on facts and cites, but perhaps it's better than nothing. The way I heard it, Arp did swipe the Moog filter design (and made some bloody good sounding synths, too). Moog got huffy until it was pointed out that they had swiped some keyboard scanning circuits from Arp.
RE: Walter vs Wendy - He/She has released work both pre- and post-op. Therefore any searches for information or albums should take into account both names. I think you're doing Ms. Carlos a favour by mentioning the former name.
"The artist formerly known as Walter" Carlos...?
Moog Music UK (not related to Bob Moog) is selling new Minimoogs.
Yeah, remakes. The good Dr. no longer owns his name, so the people at Moog aren't really Moog. For people who care.
Equal Time: Robert Moog does design and sell some pretty cool stuff under the name Moogerfooger - you can find info and order from BigBriar. Theremins too!
I bought his Ring Mod stompbox, I love it. Plus, signed by the man. Coolness!
(For people who don't know: "Moog" rhymes with "Rogue")
Mark Mothersbaugh, formerly of Devo, can be seen in the credits for Buena Vista TV (Rugrats), a Disney subsidiary.
Ugh!
Have you listened to the stuff he's done for Rugrats? Pretty cool, I think. Also did Pee-Wee's Playhouse, if memory serves.
Loud shots from the big spud gun...
But do you have Deities and Demigods? The first print run, with the deities from the Elric fantasy series in it?
You betcha, when it first came out. And I remember vividly a copy of it being shown on a Televangelist show (Paul & Jan Crouch, I think) while they railed that all these pagan evil gawds were listed, but not JESUS!
And I remember thinking "well just how many hit points do ya recon Jesus has, anyhow?"
(Must not be many... only took a few 1st level Romans to nail'em up on that cross... talk about a gyp, being the Son 'O Jehova and only getting 1d6 HP!)
I'm tired of pointy-clicky internet services.. have been tired of said services since the day they came to be.. all they do is put newbies on the Internet that are completely LAME/trolls/etc.
You'll get used to it. After all, you watch television, right? Who do you think they customize that medium for, people who actually have some vague notion of how a TV works, or just the average shmuck that'll sit through the commercials / pay the cable bill?
Sturgeon's law applies to the TV as well as the internet - but I don't see a stampede of people disconnecting because of it. Evidently shit is in high demand.
Your car isn't going to get a BSOD.
Equally annoying things can occur. In the very last stages of my '85 Laser's life the CPU went wonky, and it would turn on the "Check Engine" light and limit RPMs to 3000. In my Spirit trouble detected by the tranny's controller would lock the think in 2nd gear.
The real question I was wondering is when do we get magnetic brakes? Since turntables are powered by magnets, why can't we use magnets to stop car wheels?
:-)
When we get a useful place to shed all that energy to. Diesel locomotives use regenerative braking, the have an array of huge resistor elements on the top of the beast that turn red-hot when they're engaged.
The best place to put that energy IMO would be a flywheel. I want a flywheel car! (and think just how hard it would be to roll over!
And to CmdrTaco: Star Trek is NOT a dead horse!!!
Alas, too true. It's an evil undead vampiric corruption zombie hell-horse, that needs a stake through the heart, decapitation with the body quartered and sent to the four corners of the earth, a holy wafer put into the mouth of the head with the lips then sewn shut with black silk thread and then buried at a crossroads during a full moon.
But that's just my opinion.
And Voyager is still UPNs highest rated show.
Talk about damning with faint praise...
...why did the supposedly wise Elves entrust this mission to a young hobbit with no military experience, supported by any friends he happened to pick up along the way?
My take is that a powerful force (ie, buncha bad-ass elves, assorted Rangers and a mottley wizard or three) would have been easy to track, observe, harass along the journey and then finally drop the million-ton s-hammer on, once they got in range.
So the decision was to send a "stealth" force. Remember that ol' Lidless Eyeball hisself hardly knew what a hobbit was... all he had to go on is what he wrung out of poor Smeagol.
What would have made more sense would have been to assemble said Mighty Elf Army, send it marching the long-way round, and act as a distraction for the A-team.
The only person responsible for ones actions is yourself.
I'm guessing you're not a lawyer...
Well, now they think they can produce a carbon copy of a human being at will -- or worse yet, a modified copy which has exactly the characteristics they want: Obedience to secular authorities, low IQ, lack of imagination, lack of faith, etc.
This Black Helicopter moment has been brought to you by Genetic Engineering. At GE, we bring good things To Life.
Literacy is in short supply amongs most around here.
Q.E.D.
Talk about a misleading headline - when I first read this I thought the blasted thing had gotten a license!
I recall that in Britan a while back someone actually got a frog to float by using a powerful magnetic field.
My respect for the Brits has just skyrocketed. What a wonderfully "wierd science" thing to do... float a frog!
Any URLs? "Float + Frog" is probably a bad set of search terms for the engines.
("Usually you just throw'em in water, they'll float all by themselves...")
Matrix was the best remake of Tron I've ever seen!
For example, they can group information on age, race, social background and/or sell this data to companies to increase the bottomline with a more accurate profile of peoples spending habits. This data can then be used to define more specific target groups with commercials.
Simple question - how is this a bad thing?
I understand if you just want your privacy, there's no need to justify that. But for most people is it really a bad idea to let companies know what you like and dislike? What's the worst case scenario?
Customizing my advertising stream so I see the new Lego release in lieu of a new type of panty liner sounds good to me, and makes sense for the comanies involved.
Make sure you know where the funds are being drawn from when they write those checks!
Example: I pay bills electronically over the web via my bank's site (Huntington). When I say "Pay So-n-So Co $100" the bank debits $100 from my checking account, credits it to their account, and then cuts the check to the So-n-So Co from their account. Normally no big deal, but...
Once I paid a lawn service twice, my mistake - the nice lady at the service mailed back the 2nd check she recieved from the bank. Now I can't just throw this check out because it wasn't written from my account, the funds it represents have already been taken from me. And I can't cash the thing because it's made out to someone else. So I had to explain things (slowly, and several times) to Real Live People at the bank, and eventually it worked out. But just something to keep in mind.
...the X-Box will be twice as popular as the MSX system!
The nuclear annihilation of the world as we know it was bright? The vivisection and stuffing of intelligent human beings was cheery?
When done by Kim Novak in a monkey costume, yes.
Sure, it was good for it's time. However, it's time has long since passed. Any "new" Amiga won't be the same in any way.
I agree. But the question wasn't "What is so great about the Amiga", it was "What was so great..."
People have been obcessing over obsolete hardware for a long time - witness the number of vintage car collectors. They buy, sell, trade, refurbish (even replicate!) particular models that they especially love - even if by today's standards those cars are inefficient, bad handling, polluting or whatever. Telling one of these collectors to dump their '57 Mustang in favor of a "better" new car would be met with a "You don't get it" shake of the head. Same thing applies here, I think.
Pity that Commadore couldn't market eternal life if they'd had it in bottles.
I've never seen or used an Amiga, so can someone explain why they use that red & white ball to me?
It was an example of the hardware's ability to quickly and easily (ie, low CPU usage) move a big bunch of bits hither and tither. You could never have pulled that off on a PC or Mac at the time ('85). Way Back When it was impressive... but then, so were 3 1/2" diskettes.