onboard video for x86 server boards is actually a Good Thing. It means I don't have to bother looking for the cheapest possible AGP card at a computer show because it would kill me to spend $$$ for features that a server box will never use.
onboard NICs aren't so bad either, though they tend to be intel which is sad. You'll need both onboard NICs and video if you want to go 1U..
One of the things I wonder about though is the "dual processor" factors, which has many people going gah-gah over. Dual 700mhz's may sound nice, but to only serve up web content I wonder how is that better than just 1 700mhz chip or a 1ghz Athlon for that matter (anyone care to comment?)
Call me a heretic, but I'm wondering if for static page service a P4 might be a good idea? Webservers like memory bandwidth, particularly if you're serving pages out of RAM. P4/RDRAM has buckets of RAM bandwidth, and in theory it should prove an excellent caching/static platform.
Static webservice is mem/net bound, while dynamic webservice is dependent on your app's requirements..
btw, unix file control is a bit too broad without ACLs, at least in a fileservice role. ACLs are too complicated and annoying in dedicated roles (like webservice, DB, bastion host, etc) but for fileservers they're really handy.
I'd like to see even more options ala VMS or Novell, with read, write, execute, delete, modify, etc.. As an add-on of course, though an open-standard add-on (which is a big problem with ACLs: they're not standard yet:p)
It's just that nobody's written native commercial apps for it yet. Or native drivers.
It's where Linux was at 1.0.. Limited driver support, no commercial app support.
It'll build almost everything that runs on FreeBSD, though its linker and object utilities are kinda, well, strange.
Oh, and the built-in management utils are nonexistent. If you don't mind hacking around in netinfo manager (which is how I got NFS to mount at boot, since appletalk isn't there yet) it works, but Apple really needs to provide more system control tools as a wrapper to the netinfo system in the Preferences app..
And it needs smbfs. Badly.
But I'm running it native most of the time, and it's not too bad..
ps: if anyone from Apple is reading, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make an option to BLOCK loading the classic environment, returning an error!! Classic really pisses me off and I'd like to disable it...
... interstitial ads and post-mortem popups are even more bloody annoying than banners!!!
People will end up simply proxying them away in Junkbuster or whatever. If you need to prove you viewed the ad to access the gated content, you'll lose.
Believe it or not, I'm a little disappointed in the online NYTimes, since they don't have the J&R ads from the tuesday edition:) Maybe an affiliate system (NYT is electronics affiliate of J&R, automotive affiliate of Potamkin, etc) would help, but I absolutely know that interstitials are the worst possible option.
How many people hit the back button on a flash thing that doesn't have a skip button?
Oh well, I'll save the download for my new job then.. Hopefully the mad rush to the mirrors will have petered out somewhat..
Thanks tho! (and I don't worry, anything critical on that box is built from source anyway, and it's fairly tight...) Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
... Has anyone tried doing a freshen update from RH6.2 to this?
I'd like to move my home server over to Mandrake, but I need to find a big enough dump medium to do really tricky stuff, plus my situation (I boot off the BP6 primary master ATA66, where IIRC tboot support for highpoint chips isn't "supported") is a little too custom for a reinstall to be worth the hours of tweaking (pulling the HDD, putting it on the secondary onboard IDE, doing the install, disabling the secondary onboard IDE, booting) that a simple RH->RH freshen would obviate.
Ack, I know SprintPCS handles data (uglily) in NYC, and there's Bell Mobilite digital roaming in Montreal, but when I was there I didn't get Wireless Web.. Maybe Data works, check out the SPCS/BM sites..
Best of luck! Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
And there is no filesystem on linux as cool as VxFS.
I dunno, I kinda prefer AIX LVM myself.. and there _is_ a LVM HOWTO available for Linux.. It's still not as stable as I'd like, and I don't know if you can boot off it yet (though doing rootdisk stuff in VxFS is so sucks as compared to native in HP or IBM:p), but it's cool.
Journeling means that every write is repeated a second time. Logging only writes once. Gee what is the slowest operation on RAID-5 ummmmm...WRITING maybe.
The usual responses: huge batt-backed ECC cache, use raw device (new to Linux but available in other vendors' LVM implementations), lazy JFS write algorithms and tuning JFS watermarks. Besides, what DBA/sysadmin in h(is|er) right mind is going to build a performance-critical disk subsystem on anything besides a RAID 0+1?
<peeve> Sun needs to get off its ass and give a working LVM system away for free. Disksuite is too kludgey and it's not good enough. This may happen when LVM for Linux reaches stability. Or not.</peeve>
I have a 6.2 system that's tweaked, and I'd like to simply update from the cmdline.. sans kernel stuff of course (copy the iso, mount readwrite, delete the kernel rpms, remount readonly:)
My old work workstation had 8.0b2 on it, and I was (and continue to be) impressed by it. Don't forget that they compile their code with i586 and up. Not that it makes much difference yet, it just makes me feel a bit better:)
When Mandrake 8 final is out, I think that'll be the big desktop story. I installed the 2nd beta, and a few installer bugs needed overcoming, but otherwise it went swimmingly.
Can't wait for the final!
(oh, and RedHat, why not release a i586/i686 optimized release, including pgcc or the optimized egcs/gcc? You could call it RedRocket...)
Slashdot Mirror
I was gonna do a smartass Pokey the Penguin thing, but the fucking lameness filter ruined my spontaneity.
Thanks guys...
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
onboard video for x86 server boards is actually a Good Thing. It means I don't have to bother looking for the cheapest possible AGP card at a computer show because it would kill me to spend $$$ for features that a server box will never use.
onboard NICs aren't so bad either, though they tend to be intel which is sad. You'll need both onboard NICs and video if you want to go 1U..
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
One of the things I wonder about though is the "dual processor" factors, which has many people going gah-gah over. Dual 700mhz's may sound nice, but to only serve up web content I wonder how is that better than just 1 700mhz chip or a 1ghz Athlon for that matter (anyone care to comment?)
Call me a heretic, but I'm wondering if for static page service a P4 might be a good idea? Webservers like memory bandwidth, particularly if you're serving pages out of RAM. P4/RDRAM has buckets of RAM bandwidth, and in theory it should prove an excellent caching/static platform.
Static webservice is mem/net bound, while dynamic webservice is dependent on your app's requirements..
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
Coldfusion is sucks on UNIX platforms...
shit, they even emulate the registry!!!
It was built in UWin or WindU or whatever port system that takes win apps to Unix, not natively coded.
Given what I've seen of ColdFusion sites, it doesn't surprise me that they need so many web boxes.. CF is unstable and buggy as hell..
ColdFusion needs to die a slow painful death. Hell, I'd recommend Servlet/JSP before CF... I'd almost recommend ISAPI!
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
I found 7.2 to be somewhat buggy (particularly the 'stable' KDE2 it came with), and going to 8.0b2 was actually really nice.
Next intel linux workstation I build will definitely be MDK8..
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
btw, unix file control is a bit too broad without ACLs, at least in a fileservice role. ACLs are too complicated and annoying in dedicated roles (like webservice, DB, bastion host, etc) but for fileservers they're really handy.
:p)
I'd like to see even more options ala VMS or Novell, with read, write, execute, delete, modify, etc.. As an add-on of course, though an open-standard add-on (which is a big problem with ACLs: they're not standard yet
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
he he he... Folks on Long Island are still paying for Shoreham.. (Oh wait, didn't the rest of us in NY state bail them out? :(((((( )
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
and when one man says "stop fighting among yourselves and focus on the real enemy" they all didn't remember their real enemy, the Romans.
What have the Romans ever done for us?
Romani Ite Domum..
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
OSX is a GOOD OS...
It's just that nobody's written native commercial apps for it yet. Or native drivers.
It's where Linux was at 1.0.. Limited driver support, no commercial app support.
It'll build almost everything that runs on FreeBSD, though its linker and object utilities are kinda, well, strange.
Oh, and the built-in management utils are nonexistent. If you don't mind hacking around in netinfo manager (which is how I got NFS to mount at boot, since appletalk isn't there yet) it works, but Apple really needs to provide more system control tools as a wrapper to the netinfo system in the Preferences app..
And it needs smbfs. Badly.
But I'm running it native most of the time, and it's not too bad..
ps: if anyone from Apple is reading, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make an option to BLOCK loading the classic environment, returning an error!! Classic really pisses me off and I'd like to disable it...
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
... I saw a few of these on the upper west side of manhattan.. Pretty cute.
OBEY TUX
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
I'm just interested in the built-for-586 and up stuff.. Maybe RH can generate a 'modern PC'
:p
build?
I'll probably go with the RH7.1, as soon as the mirrors stop locking up
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
... interstitial ads and post-mortem popups are even more bloody annoying than banners!!!
:) Maybe an affiliate system (NYT is electronics affiliate of J&R, automotive affiliate of Potamkin, etc) would help, but I absolutely know that interstitials are the worst possible option.
People will end up simply proxying them away in Junkbuster or whatever. If you need to prove you viewed the ad to access the gated content, you'll lose.
Believe it or not, I'm a little disappointed in the online NYTimes, since they don't have the J&R ads from the tuesday edition
How many people hit the back button on a flash thing that doesn't have a skip button?
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
Oh well, I'll save the download for my new job then.. Hopefully the mad rush to the mirrors will have petered out somewhat..
Thanks tho! (and I don't worry, anything critical on that box is built from source anyway, and it's fairly tight...)
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
... Has anyone tried doing a freshen update from RH6.2 to this?
I'd like to move my home server over to Mandrake, but I need to find a big enough dump medium to do really tricky stuff, plus my situation (I boot off the BP6 primary master ATA66, where IIRC tboot support for highpoint chips isn't "supported") is a little too custom for a reinstall to be worth the hours of tweaking (pulling the HDD, putting it on the secondary onboard IDE, doing the install, disabling the secondary onboard IDE, booting) that a simple RH->RH freshen would obviate.
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
I think someone needs to learn how to use English
;)
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
#
use strict;
use English;
print STDOUT $PROCESS_ID . "\n";
Or do a perldoc English and read the bugs section.. "If performance matters, consider avoiding English".. Sounds like a motto for Quebecois
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
Too bad date/time manipulation in Java is such a steaming pile of shite.. :(
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
gotcha..
/mnt/loop0/RedHat/RPMS/*.rpm /mnt/loopN/RedHat/RPMS/*.rpm
Why not mount both (or all) loopback and specify them all in the RPM command..
# rpm -Fvh
Should work, I shouldn't suppose...
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
Ack, I know SprintPCS handles data (uglily) in NYC, and there's Bell Mobilite digital roaming in Montreal, but when I was there I didn't get Wireless Web.. Maybe Data works, check out the SPCS/BM sites..
Best of luck!
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
Whipperschnapper...
:pp Gotta love progress...)
I remember when 64MB ALONE cost that much..
(Hell, I remember when 64KB was that much
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
And there is no filesystem on linux as cool as VxFS.
:p), but it's cool.
I dunno, I kinda prefer AIX LVM myself.. and there _is_ a LVM HOWTO available for Linux.. It's still not as stable as I'd like, and I don't know if you can boot off it yet (though doing rootdisk stuff in VxFS is so sucks as compared to native in HP or IBM
Journeling means that every write is repeated a second time. Logging only writes once. Gee what is the slowest operation on RAID-5 ummmmm...WRITING maybe.
The usual responses: huge batt-backed ECC cache, use raw device (new to Linux but available in other vendors' LVM implementations), lazy JFS write algorithms and tuning JFS watermarks. Besides, what DBA/sysadmin in h(is|er) right mind is going to build a performance-critical disk subsystem on anything besides a RAID 0+1?
<peeve> Sun needs to get off its ass and give a working LVM system away for free. Disksuite is too kludgey and it's not good enough. This may happen when LVM for Linux reaches stability. Or not.</peeve>
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
on a redhat 6.2 system...
/mnt/loopediso/RedHat/RPMS
:)
# cd
# rpm -Fvh *.rpm
I have a 6.2 system that's tweaked, and I'd like to simply update from the cmdline.. sans kernel stuff of course (copy the iso, mount readwrite, delete the kernel rpms, remount readonly
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
My old work workstation had 8.0b2 on it, and I was (and continue to be) impressed by it. Don't forget that they compile their code with i586 and up. Not that it makes much difference yet, it just makes me feel a bit better :)
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
What I really want is an SSL SMTP/IMAP mailreader... And I don't want to use stunnel on my laptop.. So it's still Nutscrape 4.7x for me :p
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
Well lets just strap a box-fan on the side of the thing!!
Hehehe looks like someone did..
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)
When Mandrake 8 final is out, I think that'll be the big desktop story. I installed the 2nd beta, and a few installer bugs needed overcoming, but otherwise it went swimmingly.
Can't wait for the final!
(oh, and RedHat, why not release a i586/i686 optimized release, including pgcc or the optimized egcs/gcc? You could call it RedRocket...)
Your Working Boy,
- Otis (GAIM: OtisWild)