>> probably 95% of what a programmer does in this day and age
yes, I can make up statistics too. That 95% of the programing that can be done in java, will be outsourced.
There are things you just can't optimize in java. Only knowing the simple way of doing things, makes you disposable. Even if you write C++ code and don't do a single delete, most of the time your leaky ass program will use a ton less ram than the java equivalent. I haven't used a single java program that I thought wasn't hindered by java's slowness, or memory hogishness.
>> You need to grow up and realize that most people expect you to get a job doing something related to what you are studying. > The idea you're espousing as "mature" is, in fact, the sad state of affairs reached when education and learning become not ends in and of themselves but merely means towards the greater end:
No, the idea I'm espousing is that just as you have pointed out this has become the norm, therefore people expect this. It is not unatural for someone to be surprised when an accounting major becomes a chemist.
>> It's people like you who have no concept of the traditional purpose or history of higher education that make me wish that CS programs would just spin off into trade schools. If you think that going to college is ust about getting a job you should head to some technical institute where you belong.
It's people like you that can't grasp that they are out of the mainstream. They act shocked that the world doesn't revolve around their ideals. Believe me I wouldn't be where I was today, if I didn't believe that an education is more than just about getting a job.
>> So the truth is that I'm not, nor did I ever say that I was, surprised at people who think it's waste of time to learn difficult subjects for some reason other than financial gain. I just find such people excessively narrow-minded and shallow.
Yeah, that's alot more shallow then wanting to hit people with a 2x4 that expect math majors to do actual math.
>> Then they say "what does she want to do". I say "she wants to start a family". They say "Oh, then why on earth is shy taking such hard subjects?"
This suprises you. how about this. You need to grow up and realize that most people expect you to get a job doing something related to what you are studying. Especially if you are studying something considered hard. Sounds like your wifes goals has nothing to do with that advanced calculus she's taking. I doubt she will be teaching it to her kids.
>>2. Taking a bunch of numbers and having the computer find the best equation that explains the data. >>I seriosuly doubt that he picked Method #2 >> you'll discover they're using a nerual network
Using a neural network, in fact, means that they let the computer find the best equation. It's just that with a neural network, you don't get to know what it is.
you do realize some things can be mutually exclusive right.
To put it in your pseudo mathematical terms "The Union of even the smallest minorities doesn't exist"
but then again I don't care. Not only can you not put the union of all the minorities together, such a thing may not even be possible because some things are probably exclusive to each other.
What I find funny is that it all started out totally backwards. Early Gnome had alot of features and preferences and customizability. That whole theme thing came go gnome first. Now it's reversed. I think the same people that have used it then are still using it.
Personally I found kde to be buggy, and the panel to be featureless. The applets are no where near as plentifull or as good. That's just me.
>> Which of those aspects do you consider the most 'useful'?
just about everything. The occasional bullshit can be sifted through, if you're smart.
You though, have not shown any alternatives, and are a whiny bitch. No one forced you to use wikipedia. The only reason this site is getting so much attention is because it's so good. If some random blogger put up some bullshit it wouldn't even be worth a mention.
>> Here's the problem: how do you tell the difference between the good (objective, accurate) articles and the bad (inaccurate, biased) ones?
You have to purchase a bullshit meter.
Are you trully claiming that you are that dense?
eclipse is the most productive application
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Eclipse is great when I want to be productive. When I'm using eclipse, I have to close my mail client and my web browser and all the myriad of other distracting applications. The bloat(understatement) is a feature not a bug.
Yeah, emacs is sooo much better, on your wrists I mean repeatedly typing control-b, control-n, control-f, and conrtrol p are so much easier to type than h j k and l
time is also worth money.
thanks for proving the point. Show me a nationwide manufacturer that sells laptops without having to pay the windows tax.
>> probably 95% of what a programmer does in this day and age
yes, I can make up statistics too. That 95% of the programing that can be done in java, will be outsourced.
There are things you just can't optimize in java. Only knowing the simple way of doing things, makes you disposable.
Even if you write C++ code and don't do a single delete, most of the time your leaky ass program will use a ton less ram than the java equivalent. I haven't used a single java program that I thought wasn't hindered by java's slowness, or memory hogishness.
yeah, defined that way by who? Get some perspective.
as opposed to your bullshit. Pointing out someone's arguments is no better than someone telling you that it isn't piracy.
What happened to some of the questions that questioned their use of the scientific method. There were plenty rated 5.
Grow some balls, you damn spineless fluffers.
>> You need to grow up and realize that most people expect you to get a job doing something related to what you are studying.
> The idea you're espousing as "mature" is, in fact, the sad state of affairs reached when education and learning become not ends in and of themselves but merely means towards the greater end:
No, the idea I'm espousing is that just as you have pointed out this has become the norm, therefore people expect this. It is not unatural for someone to be surprised when an accounting major becomes a chemist.
>> It's people like you who have no concept of the traditional purpose or history of higher education that make me wish that CS programs would just spin off into trade schools. If you think that going to college is ust about getting a job you should head to some technical institute where you belong.
It's people like you that can't grasp that they are out of the mainstream. They act shocked that the world doesn't revolve around their ideals. Believe me I wouldn't be where I was today, if I didn't believe that an education is more than just about getting a job.
>> So the truth is that I'm not, nor did I ever say that I was, surprised at people who think it's waste of time to learn difficult subjects for some reason other than financial gain. I just find such people excessively narrow-minded and shallow.
Yeah, that's alot more shallow then wanting to hit people with a 2x4 that expect math majors to do actual math.
>> Lots of adolescents don't know how to tell the difference between polite behavior and romantic interest.
show me one adult person that can.
>> Then they say "what does she want to do". I say "she wants to start a family". They say "Oh, then why on earth is shy taking such hard subjects?"
This suprises you. how about this.
You need to grow up and realize that most people expect you to get a job doing something related to what you are studying. Especially if you are studying something considered hard. Sounds like your wifes goals has nothing to do with that advanced calculus she's taking. I doubt she will be teaching it to her kids.
I'm using 1.5 on linux. This is sure shitty of them.
I just tried it in firefox. I think it doesn't support firefox either. At least not 1.5.
>>2. Taking a bunch of numbers and having the computer find the best equation that explains the data.
>>I seriosuly doubt that he picked Method #2
>> you'll discover they're using a nerual network
Using a neural network, in fact, means that they let the computer find the best equation. It's just that with a neural network, you don't get to know what it is.
you never know weather a page will be offensive till after it's offended you.
>> Emacs would be a far better OS if it shipped with a halfway-decent text editor.
viper is halfway decent.
>> AT LEAST play DVDs on it.
who the fuck watches dvd's on their computer?
Oh that's right you live in your parents basement and don't own a tv.
>> I want my piece of machinery to do more than a fucking minitel could in the eighties!
ignorance of what you can do from the command line on a modern computer, is no excuse for spouting off.
you had me going till you said word processor. Real men use vi and latex. xdvi should be the only x program you need for that.
no offense to you emacs guys. Emacs would be marginally acceptible.
flawed logic, on slashdot, gasp . . .
you do realize some things can be mutually exclusive right.
To put it in your pseudo mathematical terms
"The Union of even the smallest minorities doesn't exist"
but then again I don't care. Not only can you not put the union of all the minorities together, such a thing may not even be possible because some things are probably exclusive to each other.
What I find funny is that it all started out totally backwards. Early Gnome had alot of features and preferences and customizability. That whole theme thing came go gnome first. Now it's reversed. I think the same people that have used it then are still using it.
Personally I found kde to be buggy, and the panel to be featureless. The applets are no where near as plentifull or as good. That's just me.
those are great made up statistics, without a source they may as well be made up.
>> Which of those aspects do you consider the most 'useful'?
just about everything. The occasional bullshit can be sifted through, if you're smart.
You though, have not shown any alternatives, and are a whiny bitch. No one forced you to use wikipedia. The only reason this site is getting so much attention is because it's so good. If some random blogger put up some bullshit it wouldn't even be worth a mention.
>> Now tell me again about Wikipedia peer review and why its obviously superior to appealing to drab old experts?
where else can I find a free tome of information with as much usefull info as wikipedia?
>> Wikipedia calls itself an encyclopedia. It should at least resemble what it claims to be: An encyclopedia is a written compendium of knowledge.
No one is stopping you from founding your own encyclopedia.
Yeah, I thought so.
>> everyone who can do B harm.
Yeah, this guy got harmed real good. His feelings got hurt, then the world got to see what a whiny bitch he was.
>> Here's the problem: how do you tell the difference between the good (objective, accurate) articles and the bad (inaccurate, biased) ones?
You have to purchase a bullshit meter.
Are you trully claiming that you are that dense?
Eclipse is great when I want to be productive. When I'm using eclipse, I have to close my mail client and my web browser and all the myriad of other distracting applications. The bloat(understatement) is a feature not a bug.
Yeah, emacs is sooo much better, on your wrists I mean repeatedly typing
control-b, control-n, control-f, and conrtrol p are so much easier to type than
h j k and l