Note to Andover execs - exploit marketing possibilities of the CmdrTaco.
Ummm Rob, Isn't CmdrTaco technically Dave Berry's intellectual property? Unless he publishes his articles under the GPL, you will have to license this from him. </i>
I believe the exact words used by Dave Barry were "Commander Taco." So "CmdrTaco" should slip by w/o legal woes.
"I'm not too sure about this, but when you hold stock in a company and it's split up, dont you recieve stock in all the baby companies? That combined with the growth of all the baby companies lines up the stockholder to benifit greatly from the possible MS breakup."
Yes, you do receive stock in the baby companies. The AT&T breakup proved to be very profitable for its shareholders. I read an article in a magazine (dead tree or I'd give you a URL) that showed AT&T "branching off" into the baby Bells and it tracked the rise in stock prices and mergers and further company splits in each of those companies. Long story short....$10,000 in stock at the time of the AT&T breakup is now worth something like $70,000 (as of a few months ago).
One can debate whether the rise in price was due to an overall growing economy or greater efficiencies in the smaller companies (read: leaner and meaner). IMHO, the latter is the case, as evidenced by AT&T voluntarily breaking themselves up even further a couple years ago.
I read an article in Popular Mechanics a while ago dealing with this and trying to instill such a sense into future robots. They referred to the sense as "proprioception."
What the fsck are you talking about? Earthlink is a subsidiary of Sprint, a publicly traded company owned by thousands of people.
hmmm....If you own 1 share of Sprint and a scientologist owns another share, does that mean you're doing business with the Co$ since you both own shares of Sprint (or any other company for that matter)?
Now, they will buy these names, make some hooey company or something to make the domain seem legit to skirt this law. When time comes to sell it, they can claim it has more value, because there are already current vested business interests from all the chrome added to the domain.
That won't happen unless the squatter is incredibly stupid. What you're saying is that they would have to result to fraud to add value to the domain name. It's one thing to create a shell company (which often happens for perfectly legitimate reasons), but to claim it is an operating company that generates value is a whole other story. If it went to court, any business valuation analyst could easily determine that the company has no value, therefore blowing away any imaginary value placed upon the domain name.
whats regulatory issues of selling shares on ebay if i can just sell a company regardles???
You may be referring to the news item I had submitted yesterday. You can safely ignore the AC's comment about "approved forums" and the SEC wanting to control everything. The reason that guy got in trouble trying to sell stock on Ebay is because he was trying to sell unregistered shares in a company that didn't exist yet; there weren't even any disclosure documents. Now, if you wanted to try to sell your 100 shares of publicly traded XYZ, Inc. on Ebay (when it was allowed on Ebay), that would be different, because there would be plenty of information available about XYZ, Inc., such as 10-Ks, news releases and analyst coverage. You don't need a tightly regulated stock market to do that since the shares of the company are "legitimate." You can even sell shares to your next door neighbor by simply recording the transfer of shares with XYZ, Inc. and your neighbor giving you $$ for your shares.
It's hard to discuss the legalities of selling Dalnet since I don't know anything about its capital structure, ie is it an S corp, C corp, an LLC (limited liability company) or a limited partnership? Whatever it is, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it's privately held, in which case you should hire a business valuation analyst to provide a disinterested opinion of value. Of course, we still have to look at the big picture and realize that we *are* just wasting our time talking about another crackpot auction on Ebay.
Just cut out the middle man, E-Trade and other brokers, and then you will have fewer regs to meet. It could be limited to customers, employees and contributors
Not really, you'll actually have more regs and will have the added burden of SEC Rule 144 for restricted stock. Try selling under those circumstances...ha!
And what's this "right people" crap? If you restrict who buys the shares then the company will never have a developed market for its shares and its true value may never be fully realized. Anyway, if it's a public company then you can't dictate who can buy and cannot buy.
I'd make one other suggestion though. How about a upcoming-IPOs-which-will-make-you-very-rich category, or is that asking too much?
Good idea, bad choice of words...I don't think Rob would want to set himself (and andover) up for a potential liability by describing these IPOs as something that will make you very rich. Three problems:
* It's illegal to make [technically] unfounded claims about a potential investment.
* Whose definition of "very rich?" eg: If Bill Gates and I each purchase 100 shares of buzzword.com, inc. and the price goes up by 400%, whose overall net worth would increase by a higher percentage?
* Some idiot could see news about buzzword.com's IPO under this category, invest in it, possibly lose money, then call his local, friendly, neighborhood shark^H^H^H^H^Hlawyer and sue Rob (and andover) for false claims about the investment. You're fooling yourself if you say it couldn't happen.
Earlier, someone suggested using a Tulip as the logo for the internet IPO category...excellent idea! There's a web page somewhere that talks about a tulip-buying craze in Europe in the 1800s and how it relates to a lot of these flaky internet companies' IPOs now. hehe, maybe "from the tulIPO department?"
The Brits took on their affectations of pronouncing things the way they do now around 1750. The Dutchess of Devonshire (figures, some rich aristocrat with nothing better to do) didn't like the way people sounded and started the English accent as we know it today.
BBC America is a joint venture between the "real" BBC and The Discovery Channel. It's offered on at least DISH Network and DirecTV. I don't know if/how many cable providers have it. They've shown just about every British comedy that I've seen on PBS and then some...except Red Dwarf. I have all 7 seasons of Red Dwarf on tape already, but I'd still like to see it over the dish.
The only thing about BBC America is that it has commercials...not too big of a price to pay for tons of Britcoms, but it's still a weird feeling.
That's actually one of the things I like most about DISH. They don't kiss the butts of sports fans and people into PPV (there's 14 PPV channels as of Sunday). They give me good, educational channels. I think it was Brilliant! for them to add BBC America and Noggin.
You're probably referring to DISH Network, in which case your info is out of date. They *almost* had to give up the NY/LA broadcast channels in the beginning of June, but there was an overruling (or act of Congress or something). In either case, I still get New York and LA local channels.
I don't know about other cities, but you can definitely receive NY/LA stations with the single dish. A second dish (pointed in the opposite direction) gives you some extra PPV channels, Bloomberg (hail Bloomberg) TV, the NASA Channel and a couple crappy religious channels.
I live near Trenton, NJ which is just about the midpoint between Philadelphia and New York. The Philadelphia signals come in OK over my omnidirectional antenna, but then I don't give a fsck about Philadelphia since all of my business is in New York and Connecticut. I asked the DISH Network rep about getting New York channels (and LA, too for a couple more bucks). She asked me about my ability to receive local signals. I explained that the Philadelphia stations are a little fuzzy and New York is very snowy. BAM! NY/LA channels came through after 5 minutes.
The thing about local channels is that aside from the news, all of the programs are basically the same around the country. That's why a lot of the local stations have their panties in a bunch, it's because for the first time they're getting competition from other stations that carry the exact same programming. Instead of ABC v NBC v CBS, it's now ABC in city A v ABC in city B.
Overall I'm very happy with DISH Network. There are three basic packages starting at 19.95/mo. The first gives you the top 40 channels that people watch. For $27.95 you get the top 60 channels + 30 channels of music. For $28.95 you get a package that will soon have about 100 basic channels. Of course, everyone has the ability to order PPV (14 channels of it w/one dish) and premium channels. DISH also features foreign channels (for a fee) in case you're homesick for the motherland.
The system is fairly easy to navigate since there is an on-screen menu. Interactive data channels are coming soon.
Corporations have no rights, only priviledges. By the good grace of the American people shareholders are given the gift of limited liability, which protects them from criminal charges when the corporation does something illegal. So, when corporations start to screw around with consumers, the government has every right to do something about it.
Why don't you think of yourself for once and the benefits of competition instead of protecting some imaginary legal entity. Someone here had a really good quote a few months back...ah, yes..."Ayn Rand can blow me." Think about it.
The funny thing about Yahoo is that I no longer find anything useful when I run a search. The only thing Yahoo is good for nowadays are its auxilliary functions, like news, stock quotes, maps, weather, etc. It's sort of like Bloomberg for the general public in that sense.
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Note to Andover execs - exploit marketing possibilities of the CmdrTaco.
Ummm Rob, Isn't CmdrTaco technically Dave Berry's intellectual property? Unless he publishes his articles under the GPL, you will have to license this from him. </i>
I believe the exact words used by Dave Barry were "Commander Taco." So "CmdrTaco" should slip by w/o legal woes.
"I'm not too sure about this, but when you hold stock in a company and it's split up, dont you recieve stock in all the baby companies? That combined with the growth of all the baby companies lines up the stockholder to benifit greatly from the possible MS breakup."
Yes, you do receive stock in the baby companies. The AT&T breakup proved to be very profitable for its shareholders. I read an article in a magazine (dead tree or I'd give you a URL) that showed AT&T "branching off" into the baby Bells and it tracked the rise in stock prices and mergers and further company splits in each of those companies. Long story short....$10,000 in stock at the time of the AT&T breakup is now worth something like $70,000 (as of a few months ago).
One can debate whether the rise in price was due to an overall growing economy or greater efficiencies in the smaller companies (read: leaner and meaner). IMHO, the latter is the case, as evidenced by AT&T voluntarily breaking themselves up even further a couple years ago.
The cure for 1984 is 1917.
I read an article in Popular Mechanics a while ago dealing with this and trying to instill such a sense into future robots. They referred to the sense as "proprioception."
(The cure for 1984 is 1917.)
What the fsck are you talking about? Earthlink is a subsidiary of Sprint, a publicly traded company owned by thousands of people.
hmmm....If you own 1 share of Sprint and a scientologist owns another share, does that mean you're doing business with the Co$ since you both own shares of Sprint (or any other company for that matter)?
Oh man, if the Germans invent a time machine, we're all screwed...
Now, they will buy these names, make some hooey company or something to make the domain seem legit to skirt this law. When time comes to sell it, they can claim it has more value, because there are already current vested business interests from all the chrome added to the domain.
That won't happen unless the squatter is incredibly stupid. What you're saying is that they would have to result to fraud to add value to the domain name. It's one thing to create a shell company (which often happens for perfectly legitimate reasons), but to claim it is an operating company that generates value is a whole other story. If it went to court, any business valuation analyst could easily determine that the company has no value, therefore blowing away any imaginary value placed upon the domain name.
whats regulatory issues of selling shares on ebay if i can just sell a company regardles???
You may be referring to the news item I had submitted yesterday.
You can safely ignore the AC's comment about "approved forums" and the SEC wanting to control everything. The reason that guy got in trouble trying to sell stock on Ebay is because he was trying to sell unregistered shares in a company that didn't exist yet; there weren't even any disclosure documents. Now, if you wanted to try to sell your 100 shares of publicly traded XYZ, Inc. on Ebay (when it was allowed on Ebay), that would be different, because there would be plenty of information available about XYZ, Inc., such as 10-Ks, news releases and analyst coverage. You don't need a tightly regulated stock market to do that since the shares of the company are "legitimate." You can even sell shares to your next door neighbor by simply recording the transfer of shares with XYZ, Inc. and your neighbor giving you $$ for your shares.
It's hard to discuss the legalities of selling Dalnet since I don't know anything about its capital structure, ie is it an S corp, C corp, an LLC (limited liability company) or a limited partnership? Whatever it is, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it's privately held, in which case you should hire a business valuation analyst to provide a disinterested opinion of value. Of course, we still have to look at the big picture and realize that we *are* just wasting our time talking about another crackpot auction on Ebay.
BINGO. I'm about to head to the head right now, and I'm going to take the printout from "Cyberclasm" earlier today to read....
and probably to wipe with soon after.
> how long till i have linux on my watch??
More importantly, "imagine a Beowulf cluster of those" embedded Linux thin clients!
Just cut out the middle man, E-Trade and other brokers, and then you will have fewer regs to meet. It could be limited to customers, employees and contributors
Not really, you'll actually have more regs and will have the added burden of SEC Rule 144 for restricted stock. Try selling under those circumstances...ha!
And what's this "right people" crap? If you restrict who buys the shares then the company will never have a developed market for its shares and its true value may never be fully realized.
Anyway, if it's a public company then you can't dictate who can buy and cannot buy.
Yeah, but the major indexes (DJIA, S&P500, NASDAQ Comp.) are all down, too, at this minute.
I'd make one other suggestion though. How about a upcoming-IPOs-which-will-make-you-very-rich category, or is that asking too much?
Good idea, bad choice of words...I don't think Rob would want to set himself (and andover) up for a potential liability by describing these IPOs as something that will make you very rich. Three problems:
* It's illegal to make [technically] unfounded claims about a potential investment.
* Whose definition of "very rich?" eg: If Bill Gates and I each purchase 100 shares of buzzword.com, inc. and the price goes up by 400%, whose overall net worth would increase by a higher percentage?
* Some idiot could see news about buzzword.com's IPO under this category, invest in it, possibly lose money, then call his local, friendly, neighborhood shark^H^H^H^H^Hlawyer and sue Rob (and andover) for false claims about the investment. You're fooling yourself if you say it couldn't happen.
Earlier, someone suggested using a Tulip as the logo for the internet IPO category...excellent idea! There's a web page somewhere that talks about a tulip-buying craze in Europe in the 1800s and how it relates to a lot of these flaky internet companies' IPOs now. hehe, maybe "from the tulIPO department?"
The Brits took on their affectations of pronouncing things the way they do now around 1750. The Dutchess of Devonshire (figures, some rich aristocrat with nothing better to do) didn't like the way people sounded and started the English accent as we know it today.
BBC America is a joint venture between the "real" BBC and The Discovery Channel. It's offered on at least DISH Network and DirecTV. I don't know if/how many cable providers have it. They've shown just about every British comedy that I've seen on PBS and then some...except Red Dwarf. I have all 7 seasons of Red Dwarf on tape already, but I'd still like to see it over the dish.
The only thing about BBC America is that it has commercials...not too big of a price to pay for tons of Britcoms, but it's still a weird feeling.
but instead replies to every email in your inbox
Good, I hope I get it then...that should fsck those "Merchant Services" bastards who keep harassing me with spam.
Reshaping the dish? I already have a dual LNB on my regular shaped DISH dish that came standard with my model 4E3 receiver.
That's actually one of the things I like most about DISH. They don't kiss the butts of sports fans and people into PPV (there's 14 PPV channels as of Sunday). They give me good, educational channels. I think it was Brilliant! for them to add BBC America and Noggin.
You're probably referring to DISH Network, in which case your info is out of date. They *almost* had to give up the NY/LA broadcast channels in the beginning of June, but there was an overruling (or act of Congress or something). In either case, I still get New York and LA local channels.
I don't know about other cities, but you can definitely receive NY/LA stations with the single dish. A second dish (pointed in the opposite direction) gives you some extra PPV channels, Bloomberg (hail Bloomberg) TV, the NASA Channel and a couple crappy religious channels.
I live near Trenton, NJ which is just about the midpoint between Philadelphia and New York. The Philadelphia signals come in OK over my omnidirectional antenna, but then I don't give a fsck about Philadelphia since all of my business is in New York and Connecticut. I asked the DISH Network rep about getting New York channels (and LA, too for a couple more bucks). She asked me about my ability to receive local signals. I explained that the Philadelphia stations are a little fuzzy and New York is very snowy. BAM! NY/LA channels came through after 5 minutes.
The thing about local channels is that aside from the news, all of the programs are basically the same around the country. That's why a lot of the local stations have their panties in a bunch, it's because for the first time they're getting competition from other stations that carry the exact same programming. Instead of ABC v NBC v CBS, it's now ABC in city A v ABC in city B.
Overall I'm very happy with DISH Network. There are three basic packages starting at 19.95/mo. The first gives you the top 40 channels that people watch. For $27.95 you get the top 60 channels + 30 channels of music. For $28.95 you get a package that will soon have about 100 basic channels. Of course, everyone has the ability to order PPV (14 channels of it w/one dish) and premium channels. DISH also features foreign channels (for a fee) in case you're homesick for the motherland.
The system is fairly easy to navigate since there is an on-screen menu. Interactive data channels are coming soon.
Corporations have no rights, only priviledges. By the good grace of the American people shareholders are given the gift of limited liability, which protects them from criminal charges when the corporation does something illegal. So, when corporations start to screw around with consumers, the government has every right to do something about it.
Why don't you think of yourself for once and the benefits of competition instead of protecting some imaginary legal entity. Someone here had a really good quote a few months back...ah, yes..."Ayn Rand can blow me." Think about it.
The funny thing about Yahoo is that I no longer find anything useful when I run a search. The only thing Yahoo is good for nowadays are its auxilliary functions, like news, stock quotes, maps, weather, etc. It's sort of like Bloomberg for the general public in that sense.
I'll actually be able to use a credit card online, without it being as stupid as me writing it below:
;)
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Hey, could you please post the expiration date and your mother's maiden name please? Thanks!
Kevin
pencils down people!
Hmmm... Apple as Princess Leia?
This is one of those analogies that the closer you look at it, the more it falls apart.
Hold on....how about the IBM PC (the x86) as Princess Leia. And Steve Jobs as Jar Jar Binks.
Wouldn't that be Katz?
Or when Liam Neesons Qui-Gon Jinn portentiously intones "the focus IS the reality!"
Actually, he said "your focus determines your reality." And hasn't Deepak Chopra been saying that for a while?
Yeah, but which distro?