Looks like he took C++, removed all the nastiness, and added all the niceness of Java in. The syntax, and spec is surprisingly Java-like. Sounds like a wonderful language...I was waiting for somebody to makea native Java-like language.
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...ok, so this guy looks like somebody pretty important...
"Where I'm from, the birds sing a pretty song and there's always music in the air."
...but I still think it's a bunch of wishful thinking. I'll shut up now:p
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Holy crap, I got sucked in and held out until about 8/10 of the way through the article to finally discover what the hell he was talking about.
My rebuttal: Mobs are stupid.
Human intelligence does not work like digital information. It is not strictly cumulative. 6 billion people as a whole do not exhibit intelligence 6 billion times greater than the individual person. In fact, one might say that collective intelligence even *decreases* as more members are added;) Who cares? Well this guy seems to want us to believe that if we just throw all our "gifts" into one big humongous happy amorphous blob, that we will instantly be able to miraculously combine any pieces and come up with amazing software. Does anybody know an author who writes books solely by going to every library in the world, examining every book, and copying the "best" parts? My point is that even if we threw all this marvelous stuff together and gave access to everybody --** there would be no possible way for a single human to digest such vast amounts of information **--. It would be like creating the best bottled water by sorting through every h20 molecule in the world. Impossible.
Furthermore, let's say this is magically possible, and that it actually results in lots of great software. As he mentioned, the gift economy is still a subeconomy in the "commodity" economy. That is, we still rely on things from the commodity economy to survive. Do you know any authors that maintain existence solely from reading other published works? So unless we come up with a way to allow non-coders to send non-digital objects (like, say fruit baskets, or baked hams) into this amorphous collection, simply working all day on software will not result in breakfeast, lunch, and dinner being downloaded from your email account, and popping out of your CD-ROM tray.
The limiting factor of software development is the capacity of the brains of individual humans. Neither putting all the software in the world together, nor putting all the brains in the world together, will solve this problem.
Ok, so somebody go make a servlet out of this. I am already running a web server with a servlet engine (tomcat), so I can't just set up a standalone program listening on port 80.
Not to mention "similar" and "linked to" pages, the special images search (which is amazingly useful - I just searched for wingtip shoes (of all things) and came up with a whole page of pictures), and the usenet archives (which admittedly isn't back in shape yet).
"If he was so completely unaware of the potential for his situation to go this way, then I'd have to ask who invited him here without giving him some background and pointing out some potential risks."
Yeah, I mean, who really abides by international law, or their own constitution these days?...
"No one forced Offspring or DMB to sign with a major label. People should learn to take responsibility for their actions and consider
the ramifications of their decisions before acting."
Right, they could have signed with some tiny label and thrown their career down the tubes. See, choices are good!
"The so called "little guys" have nothing to lose if people download their stuff over the 'net...The same is not necessarily true for the major players."
Except, of course for "major" players like Offspring and DMB. Oh wait, you meant "major" players as in the labels - they're the ones who get to decide how to market the artists' music. Oh yeah, they *do* have more to lose.
"So if your belief is that if you write a piece of software, book, magazine article or song and then anyone is free to redistribute it"
That's not a belief. That's a law of nature. We, as a society agree to artificially restrict people from performing certain actions for the sole purpose of fostering creative works. The second our restrictions go one iota above fostering creative works they are unjustified. That's the current situation - the scales are tilted inordinately in the favor of content owners (note, I don't say creators) at the expense of everybody else. "Rights" to constrain ownership of such non-physical objects such as ideas, sounds, images, are wholly artificial, and any laws created to enforce those "rights" should damn well be balanced so as to benefit the society as a whole.
Kids have a whole shitload more economic power than before, these days. It's probably partly the reason that pop culture has turned to such drivel these days, although it's just a vicious cycle that the culture producers deserve anyway. Yeah, I guess I'm one of these "kids" (somewhere between gen X and "Y"), but it still sucks.
People, the word is "timer". Sheesh, just update the statistics every few minutes...then it doesn't matter if people are hammering your server. Anyway, is PHP compiled down to anything? Because JSPs/Servlets are pretty damn fast.
There have already been worms/viruses/etc. like this, but just not on the net (that I know of...probably there have been though). Instead of "chromosomes" you'd have features (sleep for this long, deliver this type of payload, infect this type of system, etc.). When these things detect each other they'd take some random (or perhaps not random? maybe determined by some fitness test) features from each and create a new "child", and send it off in the world. These would be very polymorphic, and there would probably not be as much of a distinct signature to identify them by, slipping right by virus scanners. Viruses have also employed encryption and various other randomizations to become polymorphic and undetectable by virus scanners.
The movie, "The Matrix," at least metaphorically speaking, is not far from the truth. In the future, I see a day when people are too "attached" to a system to let go. In this future, I see people who can't define their own reality or even define freedom because of the constraints that are placed upon them since birth. In other words, they will have lost the ability to step outside the box and question the facade they call "reality".
Holy fuck Batman! You just defined American "culture". Unlike other nations which can trace their heritage back many hundreds or thousands of years, America is an "invented" country, whose identity resides pretty much in the day to day consciousness of the people (ask somebody what being "American" means). Thus, this identity is rather susceptible to the frequently changing winds of public opinion. America is already a society of the spectacle - if you are not aware and entangled in pop culture, you are virtually a pariah. Your television will NOT be revolutionized.
Anyway, I have to go log on to AOL so I can view _Inside the Making Of Survivor Pop Stars on Temptation Island_ hosted by The Rock.
Isn't it already taken for granted that the "open source" design methodology is not an instant panacea, but still needs rules, goals, milestones, leadership, etc.? One only need observe that most of the successful open source projects have rather anti-"free for all" leadership - the Linux kernel passes through the judgement of one or two human beings, Apache foundation is pretty strict, the BSD structures are rather hierarchical and dense near the top, and just do a cursory search on SourceForge to find tens (probably hundreds?) of projects who are at the stage: "planning to think about sometime writing down an opinion on how to clone something for which there are already a gazillion clones". It's a bazaar in a cathedral man - a bazedral!
Why, in my day, we only had ONE character which had to be multiplexed by switching 104 times per second, and machines were networked with string and dixie cups - and we were GRATEFUL for it!!
I'm still waiting for humans to exceed human intelligence...we're all so obsessed about what the "robots" will do in the future when they get smarter than us. The present sucks already.
WTF? The article was posted in the context of a discussion on the issues. Nobody is making money (well, erm, perhaps Slashdot...uh?), and nobody is claiming credit for the article. How many of you cut out articles and put them in your cubicles?
I'm sure Larry Lessig doesn't give a fuck if we copy his articles verbatim. In fact, he probably would like us to to spread awareness (and to get more people to buy his books?). Sheesh, don't cave to the thought police.
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Looks like he took C++, removed all the nastiness, and added all the niceness of Java in. The syntax, and spec is surprisingly Java-like. Sounds like a wonderful language...I was waiting for somebody to makea native Java-like language.
...ok, so this guy looks like somebody pretty important...
:p
"Where I'm from, the birds sing a pretty song and there's always music in the air."
...but I still think it's a bunch of wishful thinking. I'll shut up now
Holy crap, I got sucked in and held out until about 8/10 of the way through the article to finally discover what the hell he was talking about.
;) Who cares? Well this guy seems to want us to believe that if we just throw all our "gifts" into one big humongous happy amorphous blob, that we will instantly be able to miraculously combine any pieces and come up with amazing software. Does anybody know an author who writes books solely by going to every library in the world, examining every book, and copying the "best" parts? My point is that even if we threw all this marvelous stuff together and gave access to everybody --** there would be no possible way for a single human to digest such vast amounts of information **--. It would be like creating the best bottled water by sorting through every h20 molecule in the world. Impossible.
My rebuttal: Mobs are stupid.
Human intelligence does not work like digital information. It is not strictly cumulative. 6 billion people as a whole do not exhibit intelligence 6 billion times greater than the individual person. In fact, one might say that collective intelligence even *decreases* as more members are added
Furthermore, let's say this is magically possible, and that it actually results in lots of great software. As he mentioned, the gift economy is still a subeconomy in the "commodity" economy. That is, we still rely on things from the commodity economy to survive. Do you know any authors that maintain existence solely from reading other published works? So unless we come up with a way to allow non-coders to send non-digital objects (like, say fruit baskets, or baked hams) into this amorphous collection, simply working all day on software will not result in breakfeast, lunch, and dinner being downloaded from your email account, and popping out of your CD-ROM tray.
The limiting factor of software development is the capacity of the brains of individual humans. Neither putting all the software in the world together, nor putting all the brains in the world together, will solve this problem.
Ok, so somebody go make a servlet out of this. I am already running a web server with a servlet engine (tomcat), so I can't just set up a standalone program listening on port 80.
wtf? Where did Bowie Poag's page go? Angry Cat? The Hick? Had some crazy and stupid news. Darn, so much for that plug.
Not to mention "similar" and "linked to" pages, the special images search (which is amazingly useful - I just searched for wingtip shoes (of all things) and came up with a whole page of pictures), and the usenet archives (which admittedly isn't back in shape yet).
The obvious solution is to buy the jet and then hire taxi cab drivers to fly it. Duh.
"If he was so completely unaware of the potential for his situation to go this way, then I'd have to ask who invited him here without giving him some background and pointing out some potential risks."
Yeah, I mean, who really abides by international law, or their own constitution these days?...
"No one forced Offspring or DMB to sign with a major label. People should learn to take responsibility for their actions and consider
the ramifications of their decisions before acting."
Right, they could have signed with some tiny label and thrown their career down the tubes. See, choices are good!
"The so called "little guys" have nothing to lose if people download their stuff over the 'net...The same is not necessarily true for the major players."
Except, of course for "major" players like Offspring and DMB. Oh wait, you meant "major" players as in the labels - they're the ones who get to decide how to market the artists' music. Oh yeah, they *do* have more to lose.
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"So if your belief is that if you write a piece of software, book, magazine article or song and then anyone is free to redistribute it"
That's not a belief. That's a law of nature. We, as a society agree to artificially restrict people from performing certain actions for the sole purpose of fostering creative works. The second our restrictions go one iota above fostering creative works they are unjustified. That's the current situation - the scales are tilted inordinately in the favor of content owners (note, I don't say creators) at the expense of everybody else. "Rights" to constrain ownership of such non-physical objects such as ideas, sounds, images, are wholly artificial, and any laws created to enforce those "rights" should damn well be balanced so as to benefit the society as a whole.
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"The other portion will sit their and bitch and wine."
There's nothing wrong with sitting down with a nice bitch and wine every now and then.
Kids have a whole shitload more economic power than before, these days. It's probably partly the reason that pop culture has turned to such drivel these days, although it's just a vicious cycle that the culture producers deserve anyway. Yeah, I guess I'm one of these "kids" (somewhere between gen X and "Y"), but it still sucks.
People, the word is "timer". Sheesh, just update the statistics every few minutes...then it doesn't matter if people are hammering your server. Anyway, is PHP compiled down to anything? Because JSPs/Servlets are pretty damn fast.
There have already been worms/viruses/etc. like this, but just not on the net (that I know of...probably there have been though). Instead of "chromosomes" you'd have features (sleep for this long, deliver this type of payload, infect this type of system, etc.). When these things detect each other they'd take some random (or perhaps not random? maybe determined by some fitness test) features from each and create a new "child", and send it off in the world. These would be very polymorphic, and there would probably not be as much of a distinct signature to identify them by, slipping right by virus scanners. Viruses have also employed encryption and various other randomizations to become polymorphic and undetectable by virus scanners.
Anyway, I have to go log on to AOL so I can view _Inside the Making Of Survivor Pop Stars on Temptation Island_ hosted by The Rock.
Isn't it already taken for granted that the "open source" design methodology is not an instant panacea, but still needs rules, goals, milestones, leadership, etc.? One only need observe that most of the successful open source projects have rather anti-"free for all" leadership - the Linux kernel passes through the judgement of one or two human beings, Apache foundation is pretty strict, the BSD structures are rather hierarchical and dense near the top, and just do a cursory search on SourceForge to find tens (probably hundreds?) of projects who are at the stage: "planning to think about sometime writing down an opinion on how to clone something for which there are already a gazillion clones". It's a bazaar in a cathedral man - a bazedral!
Why, in my day, we only had ONE character which had to be multiplexed by switching 104 times per second, and machines were networked with string and dixie cups - and we were GRATEFUL for it!!
"What if your boss emails a word or access docuement to you on Saturday and demands to have it finished by monday?"
I hear that a few lucky people don't have jobs like this. I don't know if it could be true though.
"forbid MS to break compatibility with or deprecate any existing ones."
No. This is a death even Microsoft does not deserve.
Well if it contains all conceivable messages, that must mean it contains all conceivable circumvention software! Down with Pi!
I'm still waiting for humans to exceed human intelligence...we're all so obsessed about what the "robots" will do in the future when they get smarter than us. The present sucks already.
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WTF? The article was posted in the context of a discussion on the issues. Nobody is making money (well, erm, perhaps Slashdot...uh?), and nobody is claiming credit for the article. How many of you cut out articles and put them in your cubicles?
I'm sure Larry Lessig doesn't give a fuck if we copy his articles verbatim. In fact, he probably would like us to to spread awareness (and to get more people to buy his books?). Sheesh, don't cave to the thought police.
What's wrong with fabulistic? That's a completely promulent word.
And when we decide we don't have to learn from history...
...who bravely, bravely, bravely, ran away...