Just for the record. Delphi is type safe (ie a strongly typed language). Delphi/Object Pacal has made significant improvements in power and functionality since Borland Pascal and even since Delphi 1. It also supports in-line assembler if you really really want to go that route.
While the IDE is primarily RAD/Visually oriented. You can write non visual source code that has absolutely no VCLs in it. It's up to the developer.
As far as the STL, yes that is a great toolkit for C++. There are several commercial and freeware libraries that add much of the STL functionality to Delphi. All written in Delphi or Delphi/Assembler.
You're right. Most of tend to range from ambivalence to animosity in our attitudes towards MS. Many of us are/were simply looking for a superior alternative to VB without making the jump to C++. Many of us are basically application developers, not OS kernal writers. In many ways we are the same target market for tool writers as VB is. The difference being, Delphi gives us the opportunity to write our own tools(DLLs, Plug-ins, ActiveX controls) if we want to.Give us our favorite app development system for Linux, and we will come.
Not meaning to appear crass or condecending, but Delphi is a native code compiler. Also Delphi's Object Pascal has significant features not found in earlier versions of Borland/Object Pascal. The only people I've found that truly dislike Delphi are VB programmers, they know it's better, it's actually object oriented (vs Object Based), more flexible, and the compiled programs run faster. Oh and by the way, it has better integration with C/C++ the VB does. (Not that it has perfect integration, just a lot better than VB).
VB users tend to be scared of Delphi they way they are scared of C++.
Of course the above is a general statement based on lots of VB programmers I know. I'm sure there are those who effortlessly and seamlessly jump between VB, Delphi and C++. To those that can, my hat goes off to you.
Any chance any of this stuff could be applied to commercial and private avaition? Like supersonic learjets that don't need air intake ducts and stuff like that?
Hmmm. I gues they forgot that the only thing RedHat is really selling is support and service. They will make very little money off of their own Dist. And they freely admit, there is nothing to prevent anyone from taking their dist, tweaking it and reselling it(like Mandrake). As a matter of fact they view that as part of the Open Source process (to their credit).
Funny how the media (both mainstream and digital) completely ignore this. I guess they can't get MS out of their brains, even when refering to Linux.
Well well, who said Microsofties don't hang out at SlashDot. Worried about your stock options are you? Just think, if KDE 2.0 makes it out before the 'official' release of WinNT2K, MS will have even more egg on its face.
I think this movie is a case of some very talented, very smart people pulling a fast one on everybody (I mean that as a compliment). Like many independent movie makers, they turned their lack of budget into a plus. And like any succesful film, word of mouth always wins over hollywood hype. It always has. Nothing really new here. Even the fake reality atmosphere used by the films producers is a time tested Artistic device that has been used for hundreds of years in Literature.
Another recent example of word of mouth based success is, 'The Full Monty', which initially did very poor in theatrical release. As more people saw it, they recomended it to their friends and it ended up doing very well. or... the recent bomb, Wild Wild West. That movie was hyped beyond all recognition. The stars are among the hottest on the market today (Will Smith, Selma Hayak), the special effects looked spectacular. But when I talked to a few friends who had the misfortune of spending their hard earned money to see it, they all said is was one of the worst movies they had seen in a long time(with one of them actually walking out before it ended). The result? I didn't go see it, I may rent it on video, maybe not. Word of mouth wins again.
Finally, in this case, I don't think Katz has the slightest idea what he is talking about. Studios are already using the net, with preview videos and interviews with stars. The producers of BWP simply used the net better.
I remember reading somewhere last year, that the CIA wanted the appearance of a coverup, including rumors about their secret bases out west as good propaganda against Russia in the cold war. They wanted the Russians to believe we actually had some alien high tech weapons at our disposal. They went as far as planting stories to generate news. Whether the Russians believed it or not, I don't know.
I agree with what Katz is really saying. High profile groups epousing everyone to live life in a certain way is absurd and pointless.
From a personal point of view.... When I was a kid, I lived overseas on a U.S. military post (as a dependent) and we had no TV. None, nada. Guess what, my reading skills zoomed, my capacity for critical thought improved. The whole community was always invloved in something, from sports, to outdoor activities, to school plays, to field trips to whatever.. The point? I didn't miss TV one bit, and when I got back to the USA, I read at a level far above my peers and my view of the world outside the US was much more sophisticated. I also aquired a love of ancient history (I lived in Turkey near Istanbul). With out TV to mollify us, we had a genuine sense of community (as Americans) and were better off for it. Seems we all communicated better, were concerned for each other more and actually participated in life. We read various news papers from around the world to get our news, so we also aware of what was going on(vietnam.. Chicago riots..). It wasn't shangri la by any means, but it was worthwhile.
thanks for setting me straight. I am going to purchase it then. Caldera does force you to use it though. When I saw that MacMillan had the software I incorrectly assumed they did the same.
I've noticed that Caldera and MacMillin(sorry probably misspelled) dist of mandrake are forceing the user to install and use Boot Magic (proprietary closed source software), even if you want a 100% linux box. This essentially prevents one from legally installing it on more than one PC. Seems kind of sneaky, and seems to violate what Linux is all about.
With boot magic and the custom install that Caldera uses, how would that affect changing over to RedHat or some other version if you didn't want to go through the process of completely wiping out your harddrive and starting from scratch?
Not wanting to get flamed, but hope someone can answer this with a reasonable explanation. No Trolls please.
I firmly believe in supporting Artists. The recording industry doesn't, they only firmly believe in extracting as much of your hard earned money as they can, and paying the artists as little as possible. While I feel strongly about artists getting paid for their work, I can't continue to support the artificially high prices of CDs. Plus the fact that most of that 13 to 17 dollars U.S. doesn't go to the artist gives me little sympathy towards the RIAA and recording companies in general. They are causing there own problems.
MP3, Quicktime, MS Media player format and the internet now offer Artists the opportunity to take control of their destiny, control their sales channels, and communicate directly with their fans. It also lets fans avoid bad music too.
I encourage all artists or all genres(Music, Film, whatever...) to include a sharp web developer as part of your production team, not an afterthought in the sales and marketing process.
Check around to see how many bands have been screwed by unfair contracts (espcially those that couldn't afford a good lawyer to go over it). Patty LaBell once said that her initial contract was so bad, that when her songs were riding in the top ten of the charts (back in the 70's), she was sleeping on an uncovered matress in an unfurnished aprartment, because she was absolutely broke. Many artists over the years have yet to see any real money from the so called 'great deals' they were offered by various recording studios (unfotunately all them legal too). If the internet and the new media formats had been around then, I'm absolutely sure their stories would be different.
So please, if you like the artists' music,film, still art, literature, or what ever, and they are offering a fair price (when compared to CDs and DVDs) please support them. they enrich our lives so much.
The recording execs are just a bunch of vampires, they deserve to be put on welfare, permanently.
You're also expressing a concern for a lot of us. As much as I would like to so Delphi for Linux, I would like to see it run on non-Intel platforms also (at least for Linux). Borland for whatever reason has never ported over to the Alpha platform (they claim not enough market for it). MS VC does Alpha and as far as I know also does PPC for MAC.
An Intel only compiler for Linux would only be a partial and frustrating solution. 80% market share notwithstanding.
>>Well, the US prez did ask the National Association of Theatre Owners to crack down on underage viewers after Columbine etc.
Clintons probably a little frustrated lately. Since he can't have free blowjobs anymore, then no one in the country should be allowed to see sexually/graphic oriented material:)
Please, please don't use a slimeball like Clinton as some sort of moral guideline, it's too embarassing for us Americans.
The article gives the impression that the Browser will eventually become an AOL centric application. Is this true, or just another example of a DUR(Dumb Uninformed Reporter)?
My system has a SoundBlaster 64 PCI (OEM version)built onto the motherboard. Will it work with that? Hope this doesn't appear to stupid, just ignorant:).
What you use is up to you. You can hook up a VCR to record, or buy an ATI TV Wonder to caputure to your hard disk. Anything that can be used to capture and store video (analog that is).
P.S. I suddenly realized you thought I was Canadian. I'm not. Anyway, you are right, I was unjustly thinking negative statements by your leaders were representative of all Canadians.
Sorry I disgust you so much. My views were based on statements make by your own leaders. If in fact he didn't represent the opinions of the Canadian people, then I sincerely apologize for the slight.
BTW the way, I like Canadians. And please forgive us for SouthPark the movie.:-)
Losing may not have been such a bad thing. Think about how expensive we would be to keep around.:)
I know that part of the reason Americans rebelled was because we didn't wan't to pay for the enormous expense of the British Army protecting the colonists(called taxes). England just about went broke protecting English subjects during the French-Indian wars and just wanted us to help shoulder the costs.One of the less pleasent things about the Revolutionary War. Most people in England were extremely pissed off (and rightfully so I would imagine) Though I think England got even with us. Your government hasn't even paid off the interest on the equipment we sent over during WWI and WWII.:)
BTW, this has gotten way off topic, my email is jcarney42@hotmail.com if your interested. I am planning to visit England sometime in the near future.I've never been there, and they speak a similar language. Like most Americans, most of my ancestors came from there, and I seem to have this unnatural affinity for Brits. Can't explain it. Maybe it will get cured after visiting the place?
I have to admit though, I'm a little leary of the English in general. Had some bad experiences with some over here. Trying very hard not to judge an entire country on the actions of a few.
Uh oh, there goes my vacation plans. I have an Irish name (Though they've been here close to 200 years), and like most Americans, at least half my ancestors are British. Does that mean I'll still be in trouble?:)
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Just for the record. Delphi is type safe (ie a strongly typed language). Delphi/Object Pacal has made significant improvements in power and functionality since Borland Pascal and even since Delphi 1. It also supports in-line assembler if you really really want to go that route.
While the IDE is primarily RAD/Visually oriented. You can write non visual source code that has absolutely no VCLs in it. It's up to the developer.
As far as the STL, yes that is a great toolkit for C++. There are several commercial and freeware libraries that add much of the STL functionality to Delphi. All written in Delphi or Delphi/Assembler.
You're right. Most of tend to range from ambivalence to animosity in our attitudes towards MS. Many of us are/were simply looking for a superior alternative to VB without making the jump to C++. Many of us are basically application developers, not OS kernal writers. In many ways we are the same target market for tool writers as VB is. The difference being, Delphi gives us the opportunity to write our own tools(DLLs, Plug-ins, ActiveX controls) if we want to.Give us our favorite app development system for Linux, and we will come.
Not meaning to appear crass or condecending, but Delphi is a native code compiler. Also Delphi's Object Pascal has significant features not found in earlier versions of Borland/Object Pascal. The only people I've found that truly dislike Delphi are VB programmers, they know it's better, it's actually object oriented (vs Object Based), more flexible, and the compiled programs run faster. Oh and by the way, it has better integration with C/C++ the VB does. (Not that it has perfect integration, just a lot better than VB).
VB users tend to be scared of Delphi they way they are scared of C++.
Of course the above is a general statement based on lots of VB programmers I know. I'm sure there are those who effortlessly and seamlessly jump between VB, Delphi and C++. To those that can, my hat goes off to you.
sorry for second post.
Could the system be adapted to power high speed turbine engines in boats and aircraft?
Any chance any of this stuff could be applied to commercial and private avaition? Like supersonic learjets that don't need air intake ducts and stuff like that?
Hmmm. I gues they forgot that the only thing RedHat is really selling is support and service. They will make very little money off of their own Dist. And they freely admit, there is nothing to prevent anyone from taking their dist, tweaking it and reselling it(like Mandrake). As a matter of fact they view that as part of the Open Source process (to their credit).
Funny how the media (both mainstream and digital) completely ignore this. I guess they can't get MS out of their brains, even when refering to Linux.
Well well, who said Microsofties don't hang out at SlashDot. Worried about your stock options are you? Just think, if KDE 2.0 makes it out before the 'official' release of WinNT2K, MS will have even more egg on its face.
I think this movie is a case of some very talented, very smart people pulling a fast one on everybody (I mean that as a compliment). Like many independent movie makers, they turned their lack of budget into a plus. And like any succesful film, word of mouth always wins over hollywood hype. It always has. Nothing really new here. Even the fake reality atmosphere used by the films producers is a time tested Artistic device that has been used for hundreds of years in Literature.
Another recent example of word of mouth based success is, 'The Full Monty', which initially did very poor in theatrical release. As more people saw it, they recomended it to their friends and it ended up doing very well.
or...
the recent bomb, Wild Wild West. That movie was hyped beyond all recognition. The stars are among the hottest on the market today (Will Smith, Selma Hayak), the special effects looked spectacular. But when I talked to a few friends who had the misfortune of spending their hard earned money to see it, they all said is was one of the worst movies they had seen in a long time(with one of them actually walking out before it ended). The result? I didn't go see it, I may rent it on video, maybe not. Word of mouth wins again.
Finally, in this case, I don't think Katz has the slightest idea what he is talking about. Studios are already using the net, with preview videos and interviews with stars. The producers of BWP simply used the net better.
I remember reading somewhere last year, that the CIA wanted the appearance of a coverup, including rumors about their secret bases out west as good propaganda against Russia in the cold war. They wanted the Russians to believe we actually had some alien high tech weapons at our disposal. They went as far as planting stories to generate news. Whether the Russians believed it or not, I don't know.
I agree with what Katz is really saying. High profile groups epousing everyone to live life in a certain way is absurd and pointless.
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From a personal point of view....
When I was a kid, I lived overseas on a U.S. military post (as a dependent) and we had no TV. None, nada. Guess what, my reading skills zoomed, my capacity for critical thought improved. The whole community was always invloved in something, from sports, to outdoor activities, to school plays, to field trips to whatever.. The point? I didn't miss TV one bit, and when I got back to the USA, I read at a level far above my peers and my view of the world outside the US was much more sophisticated. I also aquired a love of ancient history (I lived in Turkey near Istanbul). With out TV to mollify us, we had a genuine sense of community (as Americans) and were better off for it. Seems we all communicated better, were concerned for each other more and actually participated in life.
We read various news papers from around the world to get our news, so we also aware of what was going on(vietnam.. Chicago riots..). It wasn't shangri la by any means, but it was worthwhile.
Just my
thanks for setting me straight. I am going to purchase it then. Caldera does force you to use it though. When I saw that MacMillan had the software I incorrectly assumed they did the same.
I've noticed that Caldera and MacMillin(sorry probably misspelled) dist of mandrake are forceing the user to install and use Boot Magic (proprietary closed source software), even if you want a 100% linux box. This essentially prevents one from legally installing it on more than one PC. Seems kind of sneaky, and seems to violate what Linux is all about.
With boot magic and the custom install that Caldera uses, how would that affect changing over to RedHat or some other version if you didn't want to go through the process of completely wiping out your harddrive and starting from scratch?
Not wanting to get flamed, but hope someone can answer this with a reasonable explanation. No Trolls please.
My beliefs, and a little reality check.
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I firmly believe in supporting Artists. The recording industry doesn't, they only firmly believe in extracting as much of your hard earned money as they can, and paying the artists as little as possible.
While I feel strongly about artists getting paid for their work, I can't continue to support the artificially high prices of CDs. Plus the fact that most of that 13 to 17 dollars U.S. doesn't go to the artist gives me little sympathy towards the RIAA and recording companies in general. They are causing there own problems.
MP3, Quicktime, MS Media player format and the internet now offer Artists the opportunity to take control of their destiny, control their sales channels, and communicate directly with their fans. It also lets fans avoid bad music too.
I encourage all artists or all genres(Music, Film, whatever...) to include a sharp web developer as part of your production team, not an afterthought in the sales and marketing process.
Check around to see how many bands have been screwed by unfair contracts (espcially those that couldn't afford a good lawyer to go over it). Patty LaBell once said that her initial contract was so bad, that when her songs were riding in the top ten of the charts (back in the 70's), she was sleeping on an uncovered matress in an unfurnished aprartment, because she was absolutely broke. Many artists over the years have yet to see any real money from the so called 'great deals' they were offered by various recording studios (unfotunately all them legal too). If the internet and the new media formats had been around then, I'm absolutely sure their stories would be different.
So please, if you like the artists' music,film, still art, literature, or what ever, and they are offering a fair price (when compared to CDs and DVDs) please support them. they enrich our lives so much.
The recording execs are just a bunch of vampires, they deserve to be put on welfare, permanently.
Just my
You're also expressing a concern for a lot of us. As much as I would like to so Delphi for Linux, I would like to see it run on non-Intel platforms also (at least for Linux). Borland for whatever reason has never ported over to the Alpha platform (they claim not enough market for it). MS VC does Alpha and as far as I know also does PPC for MAC.
An Intel only compiler for Linux would only be a partial and frustrating solution. 80% market share notwithstanding.
>>Well, the US prez did ask the National Association of Theatre Owners to crack down on underage viewers after Columbine etc.
Clintons probably a little frustrated lately. Since he can't have free blowjobs anymore, then no one in the country should be allowed to see sexually/graphic oriented material:)
Please, please don't use a slimeball like Clinton as some sort of moral guideline, it's too embarassing for us Americans.
The article gives the impression that the Browser will eventually become an AOL centric application. Is this true, or just another example of a DUR(Dumb Uninformed Reporter)?
If this question is wrong, flame away.
My system has a SoundBlaster 64 PCI (OEM version)built onto the motherboard. Will it work with that? Hope this doesn't appear to stupid, just ignorant:).
Lets hope Wal-Mart will sell counter survellance gear real soon. Damn, I'm gonna have to check everything in my hotel room from now on. hehehe
What you use is up to you. You can hook up a VCR to record, or buy an ATI TV Wonder to caputure to your hard disk. Anything that can be used to capture and store video (analog that is).
P.S. I suddenly realized you thought I was Canadian. I'm not. Anyway, you are right, I was unjustly thinking negative statements by your leaders were representative of all Canadians.
One again, I apologize.
Sorry I disgust you so much. My views were based on statements make by your own leaders. If in fact he didn't represent the opinions of the Canadian people, then I sincerely apologize for the slight.
BTW the way, I like Canadians. And please forgive us for SouthPark the movie.:-)
Losing may not have been such a bad thing. Think about how expensive we would be to keep around.:)
I know that part of the reason Americans rebelled was because we didn't wan't to pay for the enormous expense of the British Army protecting the colonists(called taxes). England just about went broke protecting English subjects during the French-Indian wars and just wanted us to help shoulder the costs.One of the less pleasent things about the Revolutionary War. Most people in England were extremely pissed off (and rightfully so I would imagine) Though I think England got even with us. Your government hasn't even paid off the interest on the equipment we sent over during WWI and WWII.:)
BTW, this has gotten way off topic, my email is
jcarney42@hotmail.com if your interested. I am planning to visit England sometime in the near future.I've never been there, and they speak a similar language.
Like most Americans, most of my ancestors came from there, and I seem to have this unnatural affinity for Brits. Can't explain it. Maybe it will get cured after visiting the place?
I have to admit though, I'm a little leary of the English in general. Had some bad experiences with some over here. Trying very hard not to judge an entire country on the actions of a few.
Joe Carney
Good point. And they probably are doing just that. I'm assuming your referring to Quebec, though I don't think they want to become part of the USA.
Contrary to popular opinion, the average Canadien does not consider themselves friendly to the USA. They just want our jobs.
You make it sound like Americans are rather hated over in Britain. I really think I'm going to cancel my vacation plans and stay State Side.
Uh oh, there goes my vacation plans. I have an Irish name (Though they've been here close to 200 years), and like most Americans, at least half my ancestors are British. Does that mean I'll still be in trouble?:)