Yes, the fusion is cool. But the energy produced isn't, right? So how do we contain the energy and use it, other than using a turbine system.
IMHO, that's where the loss comes from. Turbines are pretty much made with the idea that they won't be terribly efficient, but they'll produce a lot of energy anyway.
I couldn't tell you right off, I've since formatted that partition to ext2. The guy who wrote the driver definitely mentioned the different directory though, so I know I put it in correctly.
Like I said, I messed with the thing for three days trying to get it to work right. Then I had to go to VESA.
Here's the problem: It was April (I believe) when PE5 was released. Now, it's almost September. Have there been any releases since April that extend the BeOS hardware compatibility list? I can't find anything on their site. So I take that top mean "No official updates". And it so happens that the driver I found is the only one in existence for a savage4 on BeOS. So I use a stock driver (VESA), and it's so slow that I can't use the OS effectively.
Hence, it's no longer on my system.
While Linux is harder to configure, it is not plagued with this type of problem. If a piece of hardware isn't supported directly, that normally refers to acceleration or special features. So while I can't use the 3D on my card, I can at least get very good performance in 2D. And the thing is, Linux drivers and software are under constant development. Just keep track of freshmeat for a week and tell me I'm lying.
Frankly, I look at BeOS as MacOS for the PC. It's hard to use, regardless of those that say different. If you use it you are limited in the hardware that you can have. And it has zealots that claim it is wonderful while it sinks lower and lower. When an update comes I might dust off a drive to try it out again, but I'm more likely to try QNX.
The problem is, how could we contain the energy produced by fusion and keep it cool? I mean, I can't recall anything I've read that didn't assume a huge amount of heat when fusion occurs.
For good modular driver installation, take a cue from BeOS. Drag the driver into the appropriate directory, and it's used automatically
heh, ya. That's probably true most of the time, but not always. I have a Savage4. BeOS doesn't support it, at startup I get a 640x480 b&w screen that uses 50% of my cpu (PII-500) at idle. I find the correct driver online (The only one, I might add) and put it in the proper directory. I followed every instruction I could find. I messed with that thing for three days. BeOS never even tried to use the correct driver. I finally had to use the VESA functionality, which quite honestly reaks. It paints so slow that Netpositive is virtually useless when it comes to scrolling down on a page. yup, very nice.
btw, Linux supports my card. Even though there are no specific drivers written for it, X4.0 will still run very speedily.
It's possible to have dial-up networking work without asking for information. Assuming that you've used it at least once and told it to save your username and password, it's basically an automatic thing. You would still see it dialing, but that doesn't make it a non-issue.
ok, good point. You suddenly made me remember the only scenario I've ever had trouble with in this area. Trying to migrate a proprietary database is just a lost cause for me.
Still, it seems like a company with as many genii (I use the term loosely) on staff as MS should be able to pull this kind of thing off fairly easily. And with the amount of money they have, I have a hard time believing that it would cost too much. Not to mention they'd be getting good PR out of the deal.
There are probably lots of projects that start as VB/NT which would be equally hard to port.
Equally hard to port, yes. But in this case they have no reason to port an app. They simply need to transfer the functionality of one platform to another. If Winwhatever is actually as stable and powerful as it is marketed to be, then this should be an easy process. There should be numerous tools that will allow them to offer the same functionality as any *nix system. Apparently, that isn't the case.
I sincerely believe that if you make an application in VB/NT, I can make one just as functional and more stable in *nix. And since we're talking mainly about web systems, the customers wouldn't know either, they would see all of the same pages.
The point of this isn't just prediction/goal seeking/concentration.
The brainwaves of these kids are measured and used to make the controls to the games more or less responsive. The only reason they use video games is because it's a tedious process where kids have a tendency to get bored.
Right now I know about Transmeta and I am excited about their product. Would I know about them if Linus wasn't there? Frankly, I don't care. I know about them, and that's that.
It's called word of mouth. I hear about a lot of things. Who cares why I do, I just do. Either those things are reason enough for me to listen, or they fly away with the rest of my short-term memory.
The reason people (or, at least, me) got excited about Transmeta in the first place wasn't because of Linus, it was because of their secrecy. Transmeta has some of the most closed-mouth people I've ever seen. No one knew anything more than conjecture. That's why they became such a neat topic for discussion.
So back to my question... Why on earth should I care whether I heard about Transmeta because of Linus or not?
I don't mind ads. I do mind things that blink at me.
Here, here!
The thing that annoys me is when the ads take up 1/4 of your screen. Most of the engines out there makes it so that your eye has to do a definite 'jump' between points of information in order to navigate around the ads. Google simply puts a text ad on top of some of your searches.
It's out of the way, doesn't blink, loads very quickly, and keeps with the feel of the rest of the page. I would be much more likely to click on one of those than a stinking banner ad.
You know, you're right. Why would I ever even look at a company that makes such cool claims? I mean, who cares about low power consumption? Not me, obviously. Who cares that the low power consumption is done while keeping x86 compatibility? Again, not me. The only thing I care about is a Finnish guy I've never met. Yup, you heard me, the only thing that could ever make me take a an interesting company seriously is the fact that they employ Linus. I mean, he's popular, so their product must be good, right? -end sarcasm-
I happen to know someone who wants a laptop that doesn't run so hot. I happened to visit a webpage about a company making x86 compatible processors that run at ~1 Watt. I mention it to said individual. I don't know what you have against this scenario.
In any event, this conversation is silly. I'm going back to work.
Me too, except it was Infoseek. The only good thing IS is good for is the "search within search" capability. That lets you narrow your searches down very logically.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Transmeta claims their processor uses much less power, and so it extends battery life. Toshiba isn't disputing that, so Transmeta isn't the problem.
It meant that people who hated adventure games could suddenly consider themselves fans of the genre
What genre? Typing commands at a terminal until a program told you that you won? Don't get me wrong, I've always loved text adventures, but why have such a purist attitude? These people found a game that they like and you can't denounce them fast enough.
Maybe you shouldn't take yourself so seriously. The people you talk about aren't under you. You aren't greater than they are. Get over your little phase and come back when you can have fun. Then maybe you'll get it.
I think the problem with Myst is that it gets lumped into the "adventure game" genre when it's a bit skewed from the norm.
When I played Myst originally, I was drawn into it. I felt like I was part of the game, from the very first room. I thought the story was very compelling, and it made me want to read each of the books.
Now, why we each have a different view, I'm not sure. Maybe the writers have one type of brain, and you have another, so that the things they found interesting you yawn to. But judging by the success of Myst, I know there are many many people who agree with me.
But the difference is that unlike in Myst (or Riven or and Myst-esque game) There is no involvement with the player
ok, first of all, what do mean by "involvement with the player"? You mentioned a head on a pole, so that makes me think actual involvement with yourself. Is that right? As in, "what am I wearing?", "You are wearing pants."? If that's all you mean, then forgive me, but that's stupid.
The fact that you were thrown into a place where you didn't interact with anyone was part of the story in Myst. There's a reason you didn't talk to anyone. The reason you didn't look at yourself, is because the designers didn't feel it was important. Personally, I agree.
I'm not saying that text adventures suck. I've enjoyed them from the days of the Atari ST. What I'm saying is, wrapping a graphical interface around the adventure is a good thing. How many times did you have to re-type a command over and over to try to figure out exactly how it should be phrased?
>Attach rake to hoe.
I don't understand what you mean.
>Tie rake and hoe together.
With what?
>the shirt
I don't understand what you mean.
>Tie hoe and rake together with shirt
The rake and the hoe are fixed.
In Myst, you didn't have to deal with this, and I think that's a definite 'good thing'(TM).
And btw, Myst came out in the 486-66 days before 3D cards were used in PC's. You seem to have gotten confused.
Casual gamers killed adventure gaming, and Myst made them do it.
OK, their argument is that text adventures are somehow more immersive (I guess?) than Myst was. Umm, where do these guys get off? I know there are some people who don't like Myst and Riven, but how in the world did it make users kill adventure games?
Myst's idea of interactivity involved sparse clicks followed by hours of skull scratching.
And text adventure involved vast amounts of typing followed by hours of skull scratching.
Maybe they should go back to the drawing board for this article, and fire the present author before starting again.
Basically, Myst took the adventure game and wrapped it up in a pretty cool environment. I for one think that environment was very immersive. I mean, compare it to any other games from that time period. And after all, the puzzles in Myst were no different from any others anywhere, they just happened to be done in very pretty graphics.
I think if adventure gaming was killed just because Myst was so pretty, that must mean there are just a bunch of really lazy adventure game designers. I mean, Myst sparked at least three books, and there's still a webring on D'ni sites that actually get updated. Now that's an adventure game.
This may not be so bad. Personally, I like IE over Netscape. It's stable (on my system, at least) and it's more polished. I prefer to use IE when I'm in Windows over Netscape. I wonder how they can make an IE port to *nix stable though. What about all of the secret API code that's used in Windows? Once it's ported, does that mean the *nix version will have less functionality?
And Media Player is equally good news. There are many times I've had to reboot into Windows if I needed to see a particular video.
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Sorry, guess I wasn't making myself clear.
Yes, the fusion is cool. But the energy produced isn't, right? So how do we contain the energy and use it, other than using a turbine system.
IMHO, that's where the loss comes from. Turbines are pretty much made with the idea that they won't be terribly efficient, but they'll produce a lot of energy anyway.
I couldn't tell you right off, I've since formatted that partition to ext2. The guy who wrote the driver definitely mentioned the different directory though, so I know I put it in correctly.
Like I said, I messed with the thing for three days trying to get it to work right. Then I had to go to VESA.
Here's the problem: It was April (I believe) when PE5 was released. Now, it's almost September. Have there been any releases since April that extend the BeOS hardware compatibility list? I can't find anything on their site. So I take that top mean "No official updates". And it so happens that the driver I found is the only one in existence for a savage4 on BeOS. So I use a stock driver (VESA), and it's so slow that I can't use the OS effectively.
Hence, it's no longer on my system.
While Linux is harder to configure, it is not plagued with this type of problem. If a piece of hardware isn't supported directly, that normally refers to acceleration or special features. So while I can't use the 3D on my card, I can at least get very good performance in 2D. And the thing is, Linux drivers and software are under constant development. Just keep track of freshmeat for a week and tell me I'm lying.
Frankly, I look at BeOS as MacOS for the PC. It's hard to use, regardless of those that say different. If you use it you are limited in the hardware that you can have. And it has zealots that claim it is wonderful while it sinks lower and lower. When an update comes I might dust off a drive to try it out again, but I'm more likely to try QNX.
The problem is, how could we contain the energy produced by fusion and keep it cool? I mean, I can't recall anything I've read that didn't assume a huge amount of heat when fusion occurs.
Am I just out of the loop on this one?
Why is this not on the main page? This is a really interesting article. We need discussion.
What's the deal?
For good modular driver installation, take a cue from BeOS. Drag the driver into the appropriate directory, and it's used automatically
heh, ya. That's probably true most of the time, but not always. I have a Savage4. BeOS doesn't support it, at startup I get a 640x480 b&w screen that uses 50% of my cpu (PII-500) at idle. I find the correct driver online (The only one, I might add) and put it in the proper directory. I followed every instruction I could find. I messed with that thing for three days. BeOS never even tried to use the correct driver. I finally had to use the VESA functionality, which quite honestly reaks. It paints so slow that Netpositive is virtually useless when it comes to scrolling down on a page. yup, very nice.
btw, Linux supports my card. Even though there are no specific drivers written for it, X4.0 will still run very speedily.
It's possible to have dial-up networking work without asking for information. Assuming that you've used it at least once and told it to save your username and password, it's basically an automatic thing. You would still see it dialing, but that doesn't make it a non-issue.
And I suppose if you were given the chance to successfully sue a major corporation for millions of dollars... you wouldn't?
ya.
ok, good point. You suddenly made me remember the only scenario I've ever had trouble with in this area. Trying to migrate a proprietary database is just a lost cause for me.
Still, it seems like a company with as many genii (I use the term loosely) on staff as MS should be able to pull this kind of thing off fairly easily. And with the amount of money they have, I have a hard time believing that it would cost too much. Not to mention they'd be getting good PR out of the deal.
There are probably lots of projects that start as VB/NT which would be equally hard to port.
Equally hard to port, yes. But in this case they have no reason to port an app. They simply need to transfer the functionality of one platform to another. If Winwhatever is actually as stable and powerful as it is marketed to be, then this should be an easy process. There should be numerous tools that will allow them to offer the same functionality as any *nix system. Apparently, that isn't the case.
I sincerely believe that if you make an application in VB/NT, I can make one just as functional and more stable in *nix. And since we're talking mainly about web systems, the customers wouldn't know either, they would see all of the same pages.
The point of this isn't just prediction/goal seeking/concentration.
The brainwaves of these kids are measured and used to make the controls to the games more or less responsive. The only reason they use video games is because it's a tedious process where kids have a tendency to get bored.
cool! thanks.
yes, I got your point.
Explain this to me: Why does it matter?
Right now I know about Transmeta and I am excited about their product. Would I know about them if Linus wasn't there? Frankly, I don't care. I know about them, and that's that.
It's called word of mouth. I hear about a lot of things. Who cares why I do, I just do. Either those things are reason enough for me to listen, or they fly away with the rest of my short-term memory.
The reason people (or, at least, me) got excited about Transmeta in the first place wasn't because of Linus, it was because of their secrecy. Transmeta has some of the most closed-mouth people I've ever seen. No one knew anything more than conjecture. That's why they became such a neat topic for discussion.
So back to my question... Why on earth should I care whether I heard about Transmeta because of Linus or not?
I don't mind ads. I do mind things that blink at me.
Here, here!
The thing that annoys me is when the ads take up 1/4 of your screen. Most of the engines out there makes it so that your eye has to do a definite 'jump' between points of information in order to navigate around the ads. Google simply puts a text ad on top of some of your searches.
It's out of the way, doesn't blink, loads very quickly, and keeps with the feel of the rest of the page. I would be much more likely to click on one of those than a stinking banner ad.
You know, you're right. Why would I ever even look at a company that makes such cool claims? I mean, who cares about low power consumption? Not me, obviously. Who cares that the low power consumption is done while keeping x86 compatibility? Again, not me. The only thing I care about is a Finnish guy I've never met. Yup, you heard me, the only thing that could ever make me take a an interesting company seriously is the fact that they employ Linus. I mean, he's popular, so their product must be good, right? -end sarcasm-
I happen to know someone who wants a laptop that doesn't run so hot. I happened to visit a webpage about a company making x86 compatible processors that run at ~1 Watt. I mention it to said individual. I don't know what you have against this scenario.
In any event, this conversation is silly. I'm going back to work.
Me too, except it was Infoseek. The only good thing IS is good for is the "search within search" capability. That lets you narrow your searches down very logically.
I wish Google would implement that.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Transmeta claims their processor uses much less power, and so it extends battery life. Toshiba isn't disputing that, so Transmeta isn't the problem.
The prob appears to be Toshiba's choice in LCDs.
My father-in-law, for example, wants a laptop that doesn't double as a lap warmer. I told him about Transmeta, and he can't wait.
I think many others share that.
Actually, Gnumeric doesn't look just like Excel. And Evolution doesn't look just like Outlook.
They're close, yes, but not that close.
It meant that people who hated adventure games could suddenly consider themselves fans of the genre
What genre? Typing commands at a terminal until a program told you that you won? Don't get me wrong, I've always loved text adventures, but why have such a purist attitude? These people found a game that they like and you can't denounce them fast enough.
Maybe you shouldn't take yourself so seriously. The people you talk about aren't under you. You aren't greater than they are. Get over your little phase and come back when you can have fun. Then maybe you'll get it.
After all, it's just a game.
OK, I understand now.
I think the problem with Myst is that it gets lumped into the "adventure game" genre when it's a bit skewed from the norm.
When I played Myst originally, I was drawn into it. I felt like I was part of the game, from the very first room. I thought the story was very compelling, and it made me want to read each of the books.
Now, why we each have a different view, I'm not sure. Maybe the writers have one type of brain, and you have another, so that the things they found interesting you yawn to. But judging by the success of Myst, I know there are many many people who agree with me.
But the difference is that unlike in Myst (or Riven or and Myst-esque game) There is no involvement with the player
ok, first of all, what do mean by "involvement with the player"? You mentioned a head on a pole, so that makes me think actual involvement with yourself. Is that right? As in, "what am I wearing?", "You are wearing pants."? If that's all you mean, then forgive me, but that's stupid.
The fact that you were thrown into a place where you didn't interact with anyone was part of the story in Myst. There's a reason you didn't talk to anyone. The reason you didn't look at yourself, is because the designers didn't feel it was important. Personally, I agree.
I'm not saying that text adventures suck. I've enjoyed them from the days of the Atari ST. What I'm saying is, wrapping a graphical interface around the adventure is a good thing. How many times did you have to re-type a command over and over to try to figure out exactly how it should be phrased?
>Attach rake to hoe.
I don't understand what you mean.
>Tie rake and hoe together.
With what?
>the shirt
I don't understand what you mean.
>Tie hoe and rake together with shirt
The rake and the hoe are fixed.
In Myst, you didn't have to deal with this, and I think that's a definite 'good thing'(TM).
And btw, Myst came out in the 486-66 days before 3D cards were used in PC's. You seem to have gotten confused.
Casual gamers killed adventure gaming, and Myst made them do it.
OK, their argument is that text adventures are somehow more immersive (I guess?) than Myst was. Umm, where do these guys get off? I know there are some people who don't like Myst and Riven, but how in the world did it make users kill adventure games?
Myst's idea of interactivity involved sparse clicks followed by hours of skull scratching.
And text adventure involved vast amounts of typing followed by hours of skull scratching.
Maybe they should go back to the drawing board for this article, and fire the present author before starting again.
Basically, Myst took the adventure game and wrapped it up in a pretty cool environment. I for one think that environment was very immersive. I mean, compare it to any other games from that time period. And after all, the puzzles in Myst were no different from any others anywhere, they just happened to be done in very pretty graphics.
I think if adventure gaming was killed just because Myst was so pretty, that must mean there are just a bunch of really lazy adventure game designers. I mean, Myst sparked at least three books, and there's still a webring on D'ni sites that actually get updated. Now that's an adventure game.
Lisa: ...and just when I was getting over my Chester A. Arthritis.
Hurlbut: Heh, heh, you had arthritis?
What's everyone griping about? Unpossible is a perfectly cromulent word.
This may not be so bad. Personally, I like IE over Netscape. It's stable (on my system, at least) and it's more polished. I prefer to use IE when I'm in Windows over Netscape. I wonder how they can make an IE port to *nix stable though. What about all of the secret API code that's used in Windows? Once it's ported, does that mean the *nix version will have less functionality?
And Media Player is equally good news. There are many times I've had to reboot into Windows if I needed to see a particular video.
No flames please, I'm just being honest.