Yep, all of a sudden, its "cool" to be using Debian, and "cool" to bash RedHat...
Oh well, as with all things, there is a time and a season, and people like to pull down whoever is on top. I don't see anyone yelling at Mandrake for not having all the SRPMS for their packages on their ftp site, or see them yelling at SUSE for not having the installation ISOs available right away after they have a release, or at Slackware for version number padding just to look like they are a modern distro. But like i said before... its the order of things.
I still like RedHat, and i still use RedHat...
You guys always have SRPMS for your packages, always get the ISOs out right away, and The source for the installer is available (even though i thought it wasn't cause there wasn't a misc directory in 7.0, but then i saw the anaconda package)
So, everyone seems to hate RedHat, just remember that I don't, whatever that might be worth.
Okay, i don't know if you are serious or not, but stop for a second and think about what you are saying. Lets play it from the other side of the wall, shall we?:
"I tried for the first time, to install Windows SE alongside RedHat this past weekend. I was appallwd to find that the Windows SE installer wasn't able to do a non-destructive repartition, nor did it play well with RedHat after i did so by hand. I tried and tried to get it to work, but i couldn't find any documentation in the box that came with Windows, or on Microsoft's Knowledgebase! I eventually uninstalled Windows and apologized to the victim, my girlfriend, who is now somewhat less than impressed with Windows.
Of course its my fault that I couldn't get things running right, but this seems like a no-brainer fo Microsoft. They need to get the rights to (or make) a disk optimizing utility and a non-destructive repartitioning utility. So here's my question: does Windows ME incorporate this? For folks like my girlfriend that just want to try Windows, not go whole-hog, the SE setup is ludicrous. As a 5-year Windows user, I should have known how to do this. As a brand-new user, there's no possible way that she would be able to install Windows. How can we hope to get more widespread use of Windows without comfortable, flexible, reasonable installers?"
but doesn't the cost of changing the kernel to perform better on a large amount processors affect its performance on low end machines?
If i am wrong, then please correct me, but from the way SGI and now SCO and many big companies are pushing linux to run on their big machines, one of two things can happen:
1. kernel split, where there will basicaly be two kernels, one for the big irons with the capability to do all the fancy filesystem things SGI wants, and all the multicpu things SCO and friends want. and the other for regular machines like 4 to 8 cpu machines and under.
2. the kernel trys to get the best of both worlds, and can be used on anyone, but is not optimised for either... sort of where i believe linus would like things to go.
but who knows, the future is not written in stone, its written on tissue paper stuck to the heels of God's slippers..
He seems to think that the MacOS is not going to have hardware problems when it comes to the intel platform since it didn't have any on the macs... well, he must be smoking some of that good stuff.
Lets count how much hardware can actually work on a mac, then count all the hardware that works on a pc, and now lets see him rethink that idea again.
The sad thing is that most people would believe anything about microsoft products when it comes to bugs or backdoors... why? well, they do have a record for having them. Maybe Microsoft should really take a look at the public perception of their software. People use their software, but don't trust the company they buy it from.
as far as i know, the difference is that its not just a 2%-5% drain, think of it as a real time 2%-5% drain... unlike most applications, the modem can't just sit waiting for resources, it must have it all the time. so if it ends up waiting for too long, because you started some resource hungry app, then "blip" there goes your network connection.
but you see, the programmers who work on the code, do so cause they "WANT" to. if there project didn't appeal to them, they wouldn't work on it, there fore their talent would still be lost. So, the best thing is to let people code what they want. and like magic, good ideas would pop up, and can be implement into other exsisting projects, so everybody wins.
Don't get me wrong, i understand the point you are making, but its still a bad idea, and would never work, because human resources is not like other resources which can just be moved into another area and expect it to work the same. and especialy when the resource is only doing it for personal reasons, not finiancial ones.
just pick one, and either compile static binaries for your users... or make sure they have the libs that your program use installed on their system. don't confuse the browser war, with this so called desktop war. since you can run gnome apps while having a kde desktop and the reverse is also true.
some people don't use either gnome or kde, so your point is also lost there. if you can't learn to accept how *nix users like to have things there own way, then you will never make it in these waters my friend.
make sure you have the latest gnome, and if you happen to be running enlightenment, config it for lower resources, or use sawmill. and try to avoid pixmap themes in gtk, the theme engine has "issues" which they are planning to get fix RSN
it could be because they wanted you to buy the hardware to go with their OS in some cases, and in others you still had to pay for an OS with very limited choice of software. not that good of a deal for a desktop.
the advantage linux and the bsds have right now is that they are free, run on almost any platform, and the number of apps are rising at a VERY fast pace. i guess the price isn't everything, but it does help in deciding.
first of all, its NOT two seperate platforms, and you DON'T have to code for both. As long as someone has the libs needed for your program,it would work regardless of the desktop they are using.
i guess there should only be one of everything, duplication is bad... right?
these programmers who work on these projects work on it cause they "want" to, not cause your "i don't want tom, dick and harry using linux too, cause then i won't be cool and different anymore" attitude pays their bills. I feel so sick from just reading your post that it left a sour feeling in my stomache. people like you are what make society a difficult place, cause you always want to exclude your brother from bettering himself, instead, you would rather step on his back while his face is in the mud and laugh at him for not taking his face out of the mud.
Printing and printer support is a major issue with the linux desktop. How do you plan to address this in Gnome in the future? Or do you believe that it should be addressed in a lower level than at the desktop?
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Yep, all of a sudden, its "cool" to be using Debian, and "cool" to bash RedHat...
Oh well, as with all things, there is a time and a season, and people like to pull down whoever is on top. I don't see anyone yelling at Mandrake for not having all the SRPMS for their packages on their ftp site, or see them yelling at SUSE for not having the installation ISOs available right away after they have a release, or at Slackware for version number padding just to look like they are a modern distro. But like i said before... its the order of things.
I still like RedHat, and i still use RedHat...
You guys always have SRPMS for your packages, always get the ISOs out right away, and The source for the installer is available (even though i thought it wasn't cause there wasn't a misc directory in 7.0, but then i saw the anaconda package)
So, everyone seems to hate RedHat, just remember that I don't, whatever that might be worth.
Okay, i don't know if you are serious or not, but stop for a second and think about what you are saying. Lets play it from the other side of the wall, shall we?:
"I tried for the first time, to install Windows SE alongside RedHat this past weekend. I was appallwd to find that the Windows SE installer wasn't able to do a non-destructive repartition, nor did it play well with RedHat after i did so by hand. I tried and tried to get it to work, but i couldn't find any documentation in the box that came with Windows, or on Microsoft's Knowledgebase! I eventually uninstalled Windows and apologized to the victim, my girlfriend, who is now somewhat less than impressed with Windows.
Of course its my fault that I couldn't get things running right, but this seems like a no-brainer fo Microsoft. They need to get the rights to (or make) a disk optimizing utility and a non-destructive repartitioning utility. So here's my question: does Windows ME incorporate this? For folks like my girlfriend that just want to try Windows, not go whole-hog, the SE setup is ludicrous. As a 5-year Windows user, I should have known how to do this. As a brand-new user, there's no possible way that she would be able to install Windows. How can we hope to get more widespread use of Windows without comfortable, flexible, reasonable installers?"
see how stupid you sound now? peace
then what is to stop someone from replicating a replicator? heehee..
maybe you buying crappier blamk cds... :)
or your cd burner is going bad
heh... who knows... go back to an older kernel that "worked" and see if the problem continues.. and if it does, then you know its not the kernel.
The BP6 crashes when people don't cool it enough, or overclock it too high.
If your board crashes for no reason all the time, then i suggest you get your board replaced.
"Improving security and the ability of Linux to
handle applications such as e-mail, including
instant messaging."
need i say more?
some needs a beating with a clue stick...
but doesn't the cost of changing the kernel to perform better on a large amount processors affect its performance on low end machines?
If i am wrong, then please correct me, but from the way SGI and now SCO and many big companies are pushing linux to run on their big machines, one of two things can happen:
1. kernel split, where there will basicaly be two kernels, one for the big irons with the capability to do all the fancy filesystem things SGI wants, and all the multicpu things SCO and friends want. and the other for regular machines like 4 to 8 cpu machines and under.
2. the kernel trys to get the best of both worlds, and can be used on anyone, but is not optimised for either... sort of where i believe linus would like things to go.
but who knows, the future is not written in stone, its written on tissue paper stuck to the heels of God's slippers..
save you from IRQ hell?
He seems to think that the MacOS is not going to have hardware problems when it comes to the intel platform since it didn't have any on the macs... well, he must be smoking some of that good stuff.
Lets count how much hardware can actually work on a mac, then count all the hardware that works on a pc, and now lets see him rethink that idea again.
1-800-BE-A-GEEK an isp run by geeks
The sad thing is that most people would believe anything about microsoft products when it comes to bugs or backdoors... why? well, they do have a record for having them. Maybe Microsoft should really take a look at the public perception of their software. People use their software, but don't trust the company they buy it from.
Such is the order of things today...
as far as i know, the difference is that its not just a 2%-5% drain, think of it as a real time 2%-5% drain... unlike most applications, the modem can't just sit waiting for resources, it must have it all the time. so if it ends up waiting for too long, because you started some resource hungry app, then "blip" there goes your network connection.
I think that a mention of the new agp support in the kernel is important to show the advance linux is making towards the gaming market.
but you see, the programmers who work on the code, do so cause they "WANT" to. if there project didn't appeal to them, they wouldn't work on it, there fore their talent would still be lost. So, the best thing is to let people code what they want. and like magic, good ideas would pop up, and can be implement into other exsisting projects, so everybody wins.
Don't get me wrong, i understand the point you are making, but its still a bad idea, and would never work, because human resources is not like other resources which can just be moved into another area and expect it to work the same. and especialy when the resource is only doing it for personal reasons, not finiancial ones.
thats like asking if linux would ever be finished
you don't need to write to BOTH toolkits.
just pick one, and either compile static binaries for your users... or make sure they have the libs that your program use installed on their system. don't confuse the browser war, with this so called desktop war. since you can run gnome apps while having a kde desktop and the reverse is also true.
some people don't use either gnome or kde, so your point is also lost there. if you can't learn to accept how *nix users like to have things there own way, then you will never make it in these waters my friend.
am, thats a windowmanager thing, and some window manager let you put buttons anywhere you want.
make sure you have the latest gnome, and if you happen to be running enlightenment, config it for lower resources, or use sawmill. and try to avoid pixmap themes in gtk, the theme engine has "issues" which they are planning to get fix RSN
it could be because they wanted you to buy the hardware to go with their OS in some cases, and in others you still had to pay for an OS with very limited choice of software. not that good of a deal for a desktop.
the advantage linux and the bsds have right now is that they are free, run on almost any platform, and the number of apps are rising at a VERY fast pace. i guess the price isn't everything, but it does help in deciding.
first of all, its NOT two seperate platforms, and you DON'T have to code for both. As long as someone has the libs needed for your program ,it would work regardless of the desktop they are using.
i guess there should only be one of everything, duplication is bad... right?
and you have given back what?
these programmers who work on these projects work on it cause they "want" to, not cause your "i don't want tom, dick and harry using linux too, cause then i won't be cool and different anymore" attitude pays their bills. I feel so sick from just reading your post that it left a sour feeling in my stomache. people like you are what make society a difficult place, cause you always want to exclude your brother from bettering himself, instead, you would rather step on his back while his face is in the mud and laugh at him for not taking his face out of the mud.
Printing and printer support is a major issue with the linux desktop. How do you plan to address this in Gnome in the future? Or do you believe that it should be addressed in a lower level than at the desktop?
its biggie
not jiggy
so because you don't like rap or hip-hop its crap? well excuse me, while i go destroy my collection of cds...
am, napster does require a server, you have to connect to it first...
want to know why?
defrag defrag defrag
static swap file.
keep them from installing every geewiz toy they fine on download.com