yeah, as I said, it's a witch hunt. If you intended to steal something and it turned out it was yours in the first place, and the state tried to prosecute you, the judge would laugh them out of court.
1. Godwin's Law 2. People who commit murder are the criminals, not the people who tell em to do it. That goes for hit men too. 3. Limiting any kind of speech is starting down a slippery slope that has been shown again and again to lead to persecution.
I like the way Nightline NBC never reports any of the cases where the accused have pleaded not guilty.. I imagine the case goes something like this:
Judge: right, we're here because apparently you intended to have sex with a minor, is that correct? Defense: yes, your honor, my client was on Nightline NBC and.. Judge: oh, this shit again. Where is this minor that you intended to have sex with? Is she in the court room today? Prosecution: uhh, no your honor, but we have members of the police and.. Judge: I'm sorry, what part of the 6th amendment don't you understand? Either get the accuser in here or you've got no case. Prosecution: well, umm, there *is* no 14 year old girl.. we lied to him. Judge: the accuser is fictional? Prosecution: yes.. but the accused sure thought she was real. Judge: This isn't story book time. This is a court of law. We don't do fiction here. Case dismissed!
or, ya know, at least in a world where rationalism was valued over witch hunts. Tell me, if I intended to kill someone who didn't exist.. like, say, Mr Burns from the Simpsons, would a court in the US hear the case? What if I really really thought Mr Burns was a real person? Like, really.
according to Nightline NBC, horny men who get chatted up by someone who claims to be a 14 year old girl and then show up at the allotted place for sex can be arrested in the US for attempted child abuse or similar charges.. sounds like thought crime to me.
Well, ya know, it really doesn't seem *hard* to me to make an IDS which understands protocols and detects when a particular communication fails to conform to it.
220 foo.bar.baz.MIL (Well hello there)
EHLO so.i.say.mil
250-foo.bar.baz.MIL offers THREE extensions:
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250 DSN
RCPT <exploit@blah.4312&<*~EYN%#^H$%Y$H$W#UJSFBSZCDT^^^&^&##$%FGE#$%$$$$$$$$$$$!/bin/sh$@!#>
# id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
# cd/home
# ls -l
drwxr-xr-x 4 steve users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 steve
drwxr-xr-x 4 bob users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 bob
drwxr-xr-x 4 tony users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 tony
drwxr-xr-x 4 anne users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 anne
pretty obvious that the server didn't reply to the RCPT request correctly isn't it?
Title: Toward Self-directed Network Intrusion Detection and Prevention
Abstract:
Network attacks and intrusions have been a fact of life in the Internet for many years and continue to present serious challenges for network researchers and operators alike. The objective of our work is to develop tools and systems that automate or otherwise enhance key activities of network security analysts. In the first part of this talk, I will describe our malicious traffic assessment activities using our Internet Sink (iSink) system for dark address space monitoring. iSink is a highly scalable system that includes both passive packet capture and a set of stateless active responders that enable details of exploits to be captured. Our results illustrate the variability in the traffic on dark address space and the feasibility of efficient classification of attack types. I will also describe how data from dark address space monitors can be used to provide near real time network "situational awareness" for security analysts. iSink data is also the basis for our Nemean system that automatically synthesizes signatures for intrusion detection. Unlike standard intrusion signatures, Nemean's signatures are protocol aware which we show greatly enhances their resilience to false alarms. I will describe Nemean, and conclude with a brief description of our current activities in adapting Nemean into a real time intrusion prevention system.
Where: Grad. Lounge
When: Thursday 27th Oct 2005 11 am.
2 years from lab to startup, not bad dude.
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So what you're saying is that you're american.. we get it.
Even if we went to the libertarian ideal and got rid of the government all together we'd still have to have someone organize all those things, and after a bunch of groups got together to negotiate for the same things you'd end up with basically a government again. Except, ya know, that we all wouldn't be forced to pay for it.
If you don't understand libertarianism, don't talk about it.
Eve Online is one of the few games where I didn't even finish the free trial.
I felt the game was playing me more than I was playing it. "Hey buddy, I need you to press a few buttons here. No, not that one. Ok, now that one. Great, now fuck off for 45 minutes, I've got some flying to do."
How about because we're generally of the belief that if we *can* detect extraterrestrial life from here on Earth then its likely to be a heck of a lot of life. If all you detect is an oxygen rich atmosphere then that is unlikely to be very conclusive is it?
Imagine astronomers found a whole lot of earth like planets. Imagine they even found one that seemed to have artificial satellites. After years of observing and improving our telescopes, imagine we managed to image the planet itself and saw a civilization much like our own. Glorious times we live in huh?
Imagine after much observation we found lots of these civilized neighbors out there in the black. Imagine we tried to send them signals and waited the many years for a reply. What if none came? After hundreds of years of knowing we were not alone we came to the inescapable realization that just communicating with other intelligent beings in our galaxy is so hard and takes so long that it may never be achieved.
Wormholes and warp drives and ark ships.. what if it is all an unattainable dream?
People like owning cars (and other things). There's a reason. It's related to this 'freedom' concept that I'm so big on. In fact, there's a whole school of thought that suggests that freedom is not possible without property. Somehow, this is counter-intuitive to some.
It's a completely different proposition to ask a company to add another platform to their test set than it is to ask them to make a brand new build with a brand new part of the code tree just to support a minor platform. They already have to test WinXP and Vista (and maybe Win9x and WinME if they wanna support those south american markets), asking them to add WINE isn't that much of an ask.
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That's cause you americans are just pussies who can't stand the idea of defending yourselves.
Land of the Scared.
yeah, as I said, it's a witch hunt. If you intended to steal something and it turned out it was yours in the first place, and the state tried to prosecute you, the judge would laugh them out of court.
1. Godwin's Law
2. People who commit murder are the criminals, not the people who tell em to do it. That goes for hit men too.
3. Limiting any kind of speech is starting down a slippery slope that has been shown again and again to lead to persecution.
I like the way Nightline NBC never reports any of the cases where the accused have pleaded not guilty.. I imagine the case goes something like this:
Judge: right, we're here because apparently you intended to have sex with a minor, is that correct?
Defense: yes, your honor, my client was on Nightline NBC and..
Judge: oh, this shit again. Where is this minor that you intended to have sex with? Is she in the court room today?
Prosecution: uhh, no your honor, but we have members of the police and..
Judge: I'm sorry, what part of the 6th amendment don't you understand? Either get the accuser in here or you've got no case.
Prosecution: well, umm, there *is* no 14 year old girl.. we lied to him.
Judge: the accuser is fictional?
Prosecution: yes.. but the accused sure thought she was real.
Judge: This isn't story book time. This is a court of law. We don't do fiction here. Case dismissed!
or, ya know, at least in a world where rationalism was valued over witch hunts. Tell me, if I intended to kill someone who didn't exist.. like, say, Mr Burns from the Simpsons, would a court in the US hear the case? What if I really really thought Mr Burns was a real person? Like, really.
according to Nightline NBC, horny men who get chatted up by someone who claims to be a 14 year old girl and then show up at the allotted place for sex can be arrested in the US for attempted child abuse or similar charges.. sounds like thought crime to me.
exactly.
I know a few chefs and have asked them, the reasons:
1. that's how they were taught to do it
2. they think it is better "presentation"
3. it makes the shrimp look bigger
so not only are they being annoying, they're also being dogmatic, pretentious and deceitful.
Well, ya know, it really doesn't seem *hard* to me to make an IDS which understands protocols and detects when a particular communication fails to conform to it.
/home
220 foo.bar.baz.MIL (Well hello there)
EHLO so.i.say.mil
250-foo.bar.baz.MIL offers THREE extensions:
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250 DSN
RCPT <exploit@blah.4312&<*~EYN%#^H$%Y$H$W#UJSFBSZCDT^^^&^&##$%FGE#$%$$$$$$$$$$$!/bin/sh$@!#>
# id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
# cd
# ls -l
drwxr-xr-x 4 steve users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 steve
drwxr-xr-x 4 bob users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 bob
drwxr-xr-x 4 tony users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 tony
drwxr-xr-x 4 anne users 4096 2007-05-01 18:26 anne
pretty obvious that the server didn't reply to the RCPT request correctly isn't it?
Nope. It's an IDS. The ISPs would run it and either inform subscribers that their machine is owned or block the attack traffic.
Not that this is a very easy sell.. but it is in the interests of the ISP, as spam and DDoS continues eats up their bandwidth.
You stop the machines becoming part of the botnet.
You'd know that if you RTFA.
Title: Toward Self-directed Network Intrusion Detection and Prevention
Abstract:
Network attacks and intrusions have been a fact of life in the Internet
for many years and continue to present serious challenges for network
researchers and operators alike. The objective of our work is to develop
tools and systems that automate or otherwise enhance key activities of
network security analysts. In the first part of this talk, I will describe
our malicious traffic assessment activities using our Internet Sink
(iSink) system for dark address space monitoring. iSink is a highly
scalable system that includes both passive packet capture and a set of
stateless active responders that enable details of exploits to be
captured. Our results illustrate the variability in the traffic on dark
address space and the feasibility of efficient classification of attack
types. I will also describe how data from dark address space monitors can
be used to provide near real time network "situational awareness" for
security analysts. iSink data is also the basis for our Nemean system that
automatically synthesizes signatures for intrusion detection. Unlike
standard intrusion signatures, Nemean's signatures are protocol aware
which we show greatly enhances their resilience to false alarms. I will
describe Nemean, and conclude with a brief description of our current
activities in adapting Nemean into a real time intrusion prevention
system.
Where: Grad. Lounge
When: Thursday 27th Oct 2005 11 am.
2 years from lab to startup, not bad dude.
So what you're saying is that you're american.. we get it.
Yeah, for example, you can't try raising the minimum wage, or improving social security, to see what effect that has on crime, and the economy.
That would be too political.
If you don't understand libertarianism, don't talk about it.
If I have to make my own fun, I can do that without paying a subscription fee.
Eve Online is one of the few games where I didn't even finish the free trial.
I felt the game was playing me more than I was playing it. "Hey buddy, I need you to press a few buttons here. No, not that one. Ok, now that one. Great, now fuck off for 45 minutes, I've got some flying to do."
It's a fish tank.
How about because we're generally of the belief that if we *can* detect extraterrestrial life from here on Earth then its likely to be a heck of a lot of life. If all you detect is an oxygen rich atmosphere then that is unlikely to be very conclusive is it?
Imagine astronomers found a whole lot of earth like planets.
Imagine they even found one that seemed to have artificial satellites.
After years of observing and improving our telescopes, imagine we managed to image the planet itself and saw a civilization much like our own.
Glorious times we live in huh?
Imagine after much observation we found lots of these civilized neighbors out there in the black.
Imagine we tried to send them signals and waited the many years for a reply.
What if none came?
After hundreds of years of knowing we were not alone we came to the inescapable realization that just communicating with other intelligent beings in our galaxy is so hard and takes so long that it may never be achieved.
Wormholes and warp drives and ark ships.. what if it is all an unattainable dream?
Thankfully, I like to dream.
As stupid as you are, someone who is even more stupid than you will read your post and mod you up.
That's the magic of Slashdot.
People like owning cars (and other things). There's a reason. It's related to this 'freedom' concept that I'm so big on. In fact, there's a whole school of thought that suggests that freedom is not possible without property. Somehow, this is counter-intuitive to some.
Why do so many geeks appear to be more at home in soviet russia than in the free world?
What gives you the right to decide who can and can't have a car?
mini as opposed to a mainframe, or a micro computer.
who teaches you things you shouldn't know at such an early age.
It's a completely different proposition to ask a company to add another platform to their test set than it is to ask them to make a brand new build with a brand new part of the code tree just to support a minor platform. They already have to test WinXP and Vista (and maybe Win9x and WinME if they wanna support those south american markets), asking them to add WINE isn't that much of an ask.
If more games companies (*cough* Blizzard) would test their stuff with WINE and support it, we'd have a different PC industry.
It's pretty obvious (to everyone) that he wasn't talking about cost.