Seems to me that people drive poorly with or without a license.. I personally put it down to the "don't break the rules" mentality instead of a "drive safely" mentality. It's amazing the arguments that you hear when people are pleading with a judge not to take their license away. They often claim they simply can't function in society without a motor vehicle.
I was wondering the other day.. why is it that no genetic engineering company has come out with a truly innovative fruit? Sure, they improve on the old classics, but they never try to make anything that isn't "natural". For example, why do watermelons have to be so big? Can't you make a watermelon the size of an apple, and maybe give it an edible skin? In fact, why can't you make oranges have an edible skin? Or custard apples (Annona reticulata).. Or rock melons?
Is it a lack of vision or is it just really really hard?
Kinda makes you wonder how this social norm of licensing people to drive came about. I wonder if there is anywhere in the world where requiring people to have a license to drive is considered as absurd as americans find the idea of requiring people to have a license to watch tv.
I'd advocate an Internet license, but I'd probably fail:)
Uh huh. This geek tendancy to deny social norms is admirable and all.. but the consequences are that if you mess around with someone's property without their permission, it doesn't matter how many silly analogies you make, you're going to get in trouble. A social norm is developing for wireless access points. Not surprisingly, it is similar to other private property.. you can't use it without permission.
No, see, normal people, they don't know this stuff. It's their private property. It's in their house. You're accessing it without their permission. It's pretty obvious to everyone, except the geek who has no concept of the norm, that you are doing something wrong.
Then people start importing SuperDooperFunTechs from neighbouring states and selling them to people who are ignorant of, or just don't care about, CAnCeR2 being in the product. The state, of course, tries to stop them, but as this is interstate commerce (the catch all of federal laws) they don't have juristiction. The feds refuse to prosecute on the grounds that it isn't a federal crime. The market sorts itself out and PowerMegaSeriousTechs become known in that state solely as a $3 markup for hippies (green, my ass). This reputation leaks into neighbouring states, who start buying SuperDooperFunTechs over PowerMegaSeriousTechs for no reason other than bad things they've heard.
You know the AP is open through ignorance, don't pretend you don't.
If you honestly believe "hey, there is free internet here!" and not "hehe, this idiot left his AP open", then plead your case to the judge if you get caught.. otherwise take your lumps.
This is inheriently why the law is such a poor guide for ethical behaviour. People seem to believe that if they can find a suitable loophole then their actions are justifiable.
The point is, the rest of the world is not 'Default allow' for private property. You wanna use my car? Ask permission. You wanna borrow my lawn mower? Ask permission. Wifi is exactly the point where the Internet crosses over with private property.
That's not the way normal people see it. My computer doesn't speak for me. My access point doesn't speak for me. I speak for me, and I gave you no such permission to access my network.
Now that is what I'm talking about. I was shocked to discover that the article didn't even have a picture, let alone a video. They need to get with the program.
It's worse than that. If GR is right and not just the observable result of some underlying process then we live in a block universe. That not only means that QM is wrong, it means we have no free will.
I like what you have to say about every moving object emitting Hawking radiation.. kinda reminds me of Mach's Principle. Perhaps every object in the universe emits particles in sympathy to a moving object.
Yeah, it's annoying. The real story, that the Australian classification board considers an R rating for games to be non-sensical because "games are for kids" is a lot more interesting.
Ahh, I remember the days when a virus spreading via email was just a silly joke that everyone knew was impossible.
Thanks Microsoft.
I think most libertarians would support any regulation to stop false labelling, but few would suggest that mandatory labelling is acceptable.
Seems to me that people drive poorly with or without a license.. I personally put it down to the "don't break the rules" mentality instead of a "drive safely" mentality. It's amazing the arguments that you hear when people are pleading with a judge not to take their license away. They often claim they simply can't function in society without a motor vehicle.
I kinda ment more the idea that you don't need a license to ride a bicycle, or fly a kite.. but yes, interesting story, thanks.
I was wondering the other day.. why is it that no genetic engineering company has come out with a truly innovative fruit? Sure, they improve on the old classics, but they never try to make anything that isn't "natural". For example, why do watermelons have to be so big? Can't you make a watermelon the size of an apple, and maybe give it an edible skin? In fact, why can't you make oranges have an edible skin? Or custard apples (Annona reticulata).. Or rock melons?
Is it a lack of vision or is it just really really hard?
Little thing called freedom.. but I can understand why you find it so foreign, it's a dying concept.
Kinda makes you wonder how this social norm of licensing people to drive came about. I wonder if there is anywhere in the world where requiring people to have a license to drive is considered as absurd as americans find the idea of requiring people to have a license to watch tv.
:)
I'd advocate an Internet license, but I'd probably fail
Speeding is a crime, not using your turn signals is a crime
That's nothing. In South Korea (the supposedly free part) you have to show cause to own a motor-vehicle. You need a permit from the government.
Blah, if you want people to use your Open AP, put "FREE FOR PUBLIC USE" in the SSID.
Uh huh. This geek tendancy to deny social norms is admirable and all.. but the consequences are that if you mess around with someone's property without their permission, it doesn't matter how many silly analogies you make, you're going to get in trouble. A social norm is developing for wireless access points. Not surprisingly, it is similar to other private property.. you can't use it without permission.
No, see, normal people, they don't know this stuff. It's their private property. It's in their house. You're accessing it without their permission. It's pretty obvious to everyone, except the geek who has no concept of the norm, that you are doing something wrong.
You mean other than Star Office / OpenOffice.Org?
I admit, it would be nice if someone would compete by not making something as bloated as Office.
But then we'd all just complain that it was lacking in features.
Exactly. Why build when you can buy?
Then people start importing SuperDooperFunTechs from neighbouring states and selling them to people who are ignorant of, or just don't care about, CAnCeR2 being in the product. The state, of course, tries to stop them, but as this is interstate commerce (the catch all of federal laws) they don't have juristiction. The feds refuse to prosecute on the grounds that it isn't a federal crime. The market sorts itself out and PowerMegaSeriousTechs become known in that state solely as a $3 markup for hippies (green, my ass). This reputation leaks into neighbouring states, who start buying SuperDooperFunTechs over PowerMegaSeriousTechs for no reason other than bad things they've heard.
You know the AP is open through ignorance, don't pretend you don't.
If you honestly believe "hey, there is free internet here!" and not "hehe, this idiot left his AP open", then plead your case to the judge if you get caught.. otherwise take your lumps.
This is inheriently why the law is such a poor guide for ethical behaviour. People seem to believe that if they can find a suitable loophole then their actions are justifiable.
The point is, the rest of the world is not 'Default allow' for private property. You wanna use my car? Ask permission. You wanna borrow my lawn mower? Ask permission. Wifi is exactly the point where the Internet crosses over with private property.
No-one is saying that you should be thrown in jail for accessing someone's Open AP.. He got a fine. Seems reasonable to me.
It sure would.. unless, of course, some hacker actually set that SSID, not the owner.. but it would make great evidence at your trial.
Do, umm, geeks really believe this?
That's not the way normal people see it. My computer doesn't speak for me. My access point doesn't speak for me. I speak for me, and I gave you no such permission to access my network.
So? They're both crimes.
Now that is what I'm talking about. I was shocked to discover that the article didn't even have a picture, let alone a video. They need to get with the program.
It's worse than that. If GR is right and not just the observable result of some underlying process then we live in a block universe. That not only means that QM is wrong, it means we have no free will.
I like what you have to say about every moving object emitting Hawking radiation.. kinda reminds me of Mach's Principle. Perhaps every object in the universe emits particles in sympathy to a moving object.
Yeah, it's annoying. The real story, that the Australian classification board considers an R rating for games to be non-sensical because "games are for kids" is a lot more interesting.
So, are you saying that you require skill and knowledge to use get good sound out of vinyl?
Do you require a similar amount of skill and knowledge to get similar sound out of a CD player?
Or is all that taken care of for you?