I hear that. But consider, do you brag to people at parties that you drive happily along the highway in your volvo exactly on the speed limit when everyone else is speeding? Or do you just shut the hell up and heave spite on your reckless friends with your silence? Btw, I have OpenBSD on my laptop. It owns for way more reasons than just the security.
very true. However I hardly think it is fair to assign blame to the programmer. This stuff is open source after all. The programmer didn't have to write anything, be thankful that he/she put in any effort at all. Fix the code, not the blame.
It's like walking around in the street with a sign on your back saying "I havn't stolen anything in 4 years" or "I havn't shot a dog in 4 years".. so what? You're not supposed to. If you did (that's you Microsoft/Sun/Redhat/etc) you should feel guilty about it and never do it again, but I hardly see why someone who does the right thing should feel like they are something special.
Classic words from someone who's never used OS/2.
Piece of shit. The problem with OS/2 was the same as the problem with WinNT 3.x back in the day, no-one wanted it. The corps were happy running win3.1, the geeks were happy running dos (and arguing over whether or not qemm was the way of the future) and the government was demanding POSIX conformance. There was a rare geek who ran OS/2 but he always rebooted into dos to do anything useful with his computer. Everyone tries to lead the market, instead of just finding out what the market wants and delivering.
You are indeed correct. The specific passage is:
Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope. The act of running the Program is not restricted, and the output from the Program is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the Program (independent of having been made by running the Program). Whether that is true depends on what the Program does.
Which does not exclude me from placing other restrictions on your use of the software. But really the only reason why I would use the GPL is because I want people to be able to use my software. Please notice however that it is my software. You may own the bits but we can say that of commercial software too. The monopoly rights that are granted by Copyright however are definitely mine and that's about all we have to define property of software. Not that I think copyright is at all useful, but it is important to know the law before we begin to challenge it.
Yer.. you're better of porting khtml to an activex control. hmm.. now there's an idea.
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you're using linux? Woah. Seriously I dont know about people like you. I have had Mozilla lock up a couple of times (which is really fucking annoying) but I've not had a crash for 6 months.
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here's a tip: you're the only one. I have been using mozilla for the last 12 months and from day one I had no problem logging into Slashdot. I just updated to 0.9 and didn't even have to login again.
Please dont use the word "stealing". If you want, I'll come around your house and take your car for a spin and leave it floating in a lake. Then you will know what stealing is. Please, you insult people who have actually been victims of theft. I dont even have to go into the definition of the word to give you good reasons not to use it. Would you go on a skiing trip and tell everyone you meet that you're homeless? Or buy a new car that has repayments equal to your monthly wage and tell everyone that you're poor? It's not just because it is the wrong word, it is insulting. Dont do it.
The whole point of a laudromat is that they dont make more money. Maybe by the time they are fifty. Do the math, these machines are worth like $30k each and there's over a two dozen in your average landromat. Add to that the cost of renting the shop (or buying that land, shya) and you've got a huge initial investment so you can collect chunk change for the rest of your life.
go ahead. but you cant then go and tell everyone who has the same public domain code as what you have copyrighted to pay up -- therefore you do not own it.
I can see that you were trying to be funny, but as an open source programmer I remind you that you do not own the software I am so gracious to permit you to run or copy. That is why we put licenses on them. We specifically are saying that we retain ownership to them and that you must agree to the license before you use it. This is pretty obvious with the GPL but it is also true with the BSD license (specifically you agree that you wont sue me if you want to use the software). Even if I put my code in the public domain, and you choose to run it, you do not own it. The only way you can "own" the software you run is by writing it yourself or purchasing the copyright.
and perhaps you need to think outside the box you live in. Consider: if you dont have the software, how do you open the proprietory format? Of course, if you're too stupid to export the file to some neutral format before your subscription runs out maybe you should pay another $50.
3 Re:Bad News posted on Sunday May 06, @02:49AM EST (Score:2)
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4 Re:Why do people think they're successful? posted on Friday May 04, @10:55PM EST (Score:3)
There's probably some term in there that requires him to be in any subscription based software. That Clippy sure is a tough negotiator. I tell him every time I start up Word that I dont want his fucking help but the persistant little shit just wont go away.
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I hear that. But consider, do you brag to people at parties that you drive happily along the highway in your volvo exactly on the speed limit when everyone else is speeding? Or do you just shut the hell up and heave spite on your reckless friends with your silence? Btw, I have OpenBSD on my laptop. It owns for way more reasons than just the security.
very true. However I hardly think it is fair to assign blame to the programmer. This stuff is open source after all. The programmer didn't have to write anything, be thankful that he/she put in any effort at all. Fix the code, not the blame.
It's like walking around in the street with a sign on your back saying "I havn't stolen anything in 4 years" or "I havn't shot a dog in 4 years".. so what? You're not supposed to. If you did (that's you Microsoft/Sun/Redhat/etc) you should feel guilty about it and never do it again, but I hardly see why someone who does the right thing should feel like they are something special.
uh huh.. or taking an american's advice on what communism means.
Classic words from someone who's never used OS/2.
Piece of shit. The problem with OS/2 was the same as the problem with WinNT 3.x back in the day, no-one wanted it. The corps were happy running win3.1, the geeks were happy running dos (and arguing over whether or not qemm was the way of the future) and the government was demanding POSIX conformance. There was a rare geek who ran OS/2 but he always rebooted into dos to do anything useful with his computer. Everyone tries to lead the market, instead of just finding out what the market wants and delivering.
You are indeed correct. The specific passage is:
Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope. The act of running the Program is not restricted, and the output from the Program is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the Program (independent of having been made by running the Program). Whether that is true depends on what the Program does.
Which does not exclude me from placing other restrictions on your use of the software. But really the only reason why I would use the GPL is because I want people to be able to use my software. Please notice however that it is my software. You may own the bits but we can say that of commercial software too. The monopoly rights that are granted by Copyright however are definitely mine and that's about all we have to define property of software. Not that I think copyright is at all useful, but it is important to know the law before we begin to challenge it.
Dude, I'm in a foreign country, all my friends are 10000 miles away and you wanna give me shit about my spelling. Do fuck off.
Yer.. you're better of porting khtml to an activex control. hmm.. now there's an idea.
you're using linux? Woah. Seriously I dont know about people like you. I have had Mozilla lock up a couple of times (which is really fucking annoying) but I've not had a crash for 6 months.
here's a tip: you're the only one. I have been using mozilla for the last 12 months and from day one I had no problem logging into Slashdot. I just updated to 0.9 and didn't even have to login again.
But it did drive people to the Freenet site right? :)
mozilla 0.9 was rocking me, then I read your post and the one below it and did renice -10 and now it is blazing fast.. damn, thanks.
Please dont use the word "stealing". If you want, I'll come around your house and take your car for a spin and leave it floating in a lake. Then you will know what stealing is. Please, you insult people who have actually been victims of theft. I dont even have to go into the definition of the word to give you good reasons not to use it. Would you go on a skiing trip and tell everyone you meet that you're homeless? Or buy a new car that has repayments equal to your monthly wage and tell everyone that you're poor? It's not just because it is the wrong word, it is insulting. Dont do it.
I really hate that. How hard is it to put a blurb of what you are doing on your sourceforge homepage? That's what it is there for!
Repeat after me: Copyright is a stupid law.
The whole point of a laudromat is that they dont make more money. Maybe by the time they are fifty. Do the math, these machines are worth like $30k each and there's over a two dozen in your average landromat. Add to that the cost of renting the shop (or buying that land, shya) and you've got a huge initial investment so you can collect chunk change for the rest of your life.
stupid comments. I think you have a laundry phobia. You also just quoted my sig line like it has anything to do with what I just posted.
dude, you need to chill.
go ahead. but you cant then go and tell everyone who has the same public domain code as what you have copyrighted to pay up -- therefore you do not own it.
I can see that you were trying to be funny, but as an open source programmer I remind you that you do not own the software I am so gracious to permit you to run or copy. That is why we put licenses on them. We specifically are saying that we retain ownership to them and that you must agree to the license before you use it. This is pretty obvious with the GPL but it is also true with the BSD license (specifically you agree that you wont sue me if you want to use the software). Even if I put my code in the public domain, and you choose to run it, you do not own it. The only way you can "own" the software you run is by writing it yourself or purchasing the copyright.
By the same logic, wouldn't it make more sense to rent the app and not install anything?
and perhaps you need to think outside the box you live in. Consider: if you dont have the software, how do you open the proprietory format? Of course, if you're too stupid to export the file to some neutral format before your subscription runs out maybe you should pay another $50.
3 Re:Bad News posted on Sunday May 06, @02:49AM EST (Score:2)
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4 Re:Why do people think they're successful? posted on Friday May 04, @10:55PM EST (Score:3)
I wasnt here yesterday.
There's probably some term in there that requires him to be in any subscription based software.
That Clippy sure is a tough negotiator. I tell him every time I start up Word that I dont want his fucking help but the persistant little shit just wont go away.
yer, cause it's not like you cant just save as html.