if we were all using Freenet (or something with the same technology but lacking the idiology that without anonymity the technology is useless) then the "Slashdot effect" would be a non issue. Then again, I suppose it might manifest itself in other ways, like all that talk about "unpopular data just disappearing off freenet" might have even worse ramifications when a piece of data becomes popular in a very short period of time and then not so popular after a week or so.
gee, I dont know. We're a megacorp and we buy out every competitor that trys to enter our market. Now who are we going to make our products for? The user who tells us everything about themselves including what they had for breakfast, or the guy who wont tell us anything about himself and talks about such arcane things as freedom of choice and privacy? I dont know, hmmmmm, I think we could sell our product to the former guy easier and improve it specifically so they will buy more of it and the guy who wont tell us anything about himself can just go without. Sure, we could ask the other guy what he wants our product to do and listen to his improvements but why go to the trouble of doing that when we can just put our product closer to the corn puffs on the breakfast cereal isle because our studies have show that people who eat corn puffs also buy our product.
They need to get a techy up there! "Bob, my email isn't working" "That's because you use outlook, if you would just telnet to the unix box and use pine I wouldn't have to reboot the exchange server every day" "So, umm, are you gunna fix my email?" "In a minute ok? I'm reading Slashdot." And to think, the Internet access was supposed to stop them from going insane up there in space.
dude, it's email, if you can figure out their email addresses (hint: hack their families home computers first) you can take over the ISS and send it spiraling down after MIR or something.
werd up.. now if they had done real actual teleportation then I could see the culture changing effect. How exactly do you have borders between countries (or hell, even between private property) when someone can just teleport in?
With a transparent camera in the middle of it? or with some funky lenses behind it to point the thing down at a camera? There are _no_ details, and they want massive amounts of money for it. Can you say "shooting fish".
It's an operating system. If Microsoft can get in trouble for including IE in their operating system then why shouldn't they get in trouble for including a ripper in there? Think of all the people who make cd rippers like Real Jukebox and the like. Who is going to go download that? You've already got Microsoft's. I can see a time when you will go to the store and look for software and there just wont be any there because a "not so great but it's free" version comes with Windows.
Oh please, mix that analogy up baby. Did you happen to pay any of the mechanics over at the Mozilla project? Does your mechanic often try to do something that has only successfully done three times in history? If you want Mozilla to be better, get off your arse and fix it. If you dont have the skillz, then just shut the fuck up and take what you're given. Sheesh, perhaps you could even drop off a few hundred grand for programmers eh? I'll tell you want. If you can start a company, find a few dozen programs, pay them and then produce a better product than Mozilla and successfully sell it for a profit, then I'll honour your mechanic analogy.
You know why you are allowed to make copies of dat tape? Because you pay a tax to the RIAA every time you buy a DAT tape. You will have no problem time shifting programs with CPRM devices. The question is, do you want some bullshit legal requirement that everyone who writes a program to copy files has to make sure they are not media files or do you want something that is a little more workable? You cant say "I dont want anything, I want no protection" because the guys with the money have people in congress who do want it.
I love the way you talk about fair use. The cryptographic system in CPRM is precisely a response to fair use. You have the right to space shift and time shift your stuff, so go ahead, CPRM wont stop you. What you dont have the right to do is make verbatium copies.. that is what the challenge is going to be. That is what's gunna be interesting to watch. For once we might see the a real war over copyright. Not some war where pirates do their little thing and the lawyers do their little thing. Instead we'll have crypto on both sides, fighting with the same tools. If you're a normal user you wont have any problems. If you do have problems, well hey, it's your money, dont buy their shit.
I've already debated the question of whether copyright is good or the media companies have rights to do this crap until the cows come home. Let's stop arguing and do what we can to fuck over these evil plans. If we go the way of law the only people we have to protect us is lawyers and politicians.. at least if we go the industry way we can fight the fight outselves. Let them copy protect everything, there will be ways to get around it and hopefully it will piss people off enough that they will starting thinking about whether these media cartels are a good thing for them or not. But inact laws and we will be spending all our time talking to lawyers and worrying about being thrown in jail.
no worries.. it was like 2am when i wrote this and yer, I got dissed on the register for saying "quitely convincing" which the guy didn't know if I ment "quite convincing" or "quietly convincing".. frankly I was just trying to introduce the word "quitely" to the english language in a subversive way;)
What part of my sentence are you not understanding: CPRM replaces all existing DVD technology. Everything you know is wrong. CPRM will encrypt the content that is on DVD disks now with a better encryption method than CSS (well, apparently). Hope that's clear.
The point is, this is a new encryption system which is more effective than CSS. If you can decrypt the DVD then you can reburn with no encryption, no problem, but the system is supposed to make it hard for you to decrypt the DVD.
Slashdot Mirror
if we were all using Freenet (or something with the same technology but lacking the idiology that without anonymity the technology is useless) then the "Slashdot effect" would be a non issue. Then again, I suppose it might manifest itself in other ways, like all that talk about "unpopular data just disappearing off freenet" might have even worse ramifications when a piece of data becomes popular in a very short period of time and then not so popular after a week or so.
I am rubber you are glue, it bounces of me and sticks to you.
gee, I dont know. We're a megacorp and we buy out every competitor that trys to enter our market. Now who are we going to make our products for? The user who tells us everything about themselves including what they had for breakfast, or the guy who wont tell us anything about himself and talks about such arcane things as freedom of choice and privacy? I dont know, hmmmmm, I think we could sell our product to the former guy easier and improve it specifically so they will buy more of it and the guy who wont tell us anything about himself can just go without. Sure, we could ask the other guy what he wants our product to do and listen to his improvements but why go to the trouble of doing that when we can just put our product closer to the corn puffs on the breakfast cereal isle because our studies have show that people who eat corn puffs also buy our product.
They played with our privacy?
and down with the "all caps" slashdot lameness filter already.
They need to get a techy up there! "Bob, my email isn't working" "That's because you use outlook, if you would just telnet to the unix box and use pine I wouldn't have to reboot the exchange server every day" "So, umm, are you gunna fix my email?" "In a minute ok? I'm reading Slashdot." And to think, the Internet access was supposed to stop them from going insane up there in space.
dude, it's email, if you can figure out their email addresses (hint: hack their families home computers first) you can take over the ISS and send it spiraling down after MIR or something.
Just being able to see it transmit across the room would be enough, I've got $70k around here somewhere.
Like you know anything about ninjas. Dont believe the hype.
werd up.. now if they had done real actual teleportation then I could see the culture changing effect. How exactly do you have borders between countries (or hell, even between private property) when someone can just teleport in?
With a transparent camera in the middle of it? or with some funky lenses behind it to point the thing down at a camera? There are _no_ details, and they want massive amounts of money for it. Can you say "shooting fish".
when china takes over the world you're gunna be wishing you'd built yourself a teleportation machine damn it.
Being able to buy one in a store near me? What's the transmitting end of these things look like?
We need holodecks and totally virtual offices.
to be more precise. But it would be better if you had a way to touch stuff, but one thing at a time :)
Also, we can record the personality of the living to bring them back when then die and we can give bodies to AI doctor programs.
It's an operating system. If Microsoft can get in trouble for including IE in their operating system then why shouldn't they get in trouble for including a ripper in there? Think of all the people who make cd rippers like Real Jukebox and the like. Who is going to go download that? You've already got Microsoft's. I can see a time when you will go to the store and look for software and there just wont be any there because a "not so great but it's free" version comes with Windows.
Oh please, mix that analogy up baby. Did you happen to pay any of the mechanics over at the Mozilla project? Does your mechanic often try to do something that has only successfully done three times in history? If you want Mozilla to be better, get off your arse and fix it. If you dont have the skillz, then just shut the fuck up and take what you're given. Sheesh, perhaps you could even drop off a few hundred grand for programmers eh? I'll tell you want. If you can start a company, find a few dozen programs, pay them and then produce a better product than Mozilla and successfully sell it for a profit, then I'll honour your mechanic analogy.
You know why you are allowed to make copies of dat tape? Because you pay a tax to the RIAA every time you buy a DAT tape. You will have no problem time shifting programs with CPRM devices. The question is, do you want some bullshit legal requirement that everyone who writes a program to copy files has to make sure they are not media files or do you want something that is a little more workable? You cant say "I dont want anything, I want no protection" because the guys with the money have people in congress who do want it.
hehe.. ok, sorry to dis ya.
I love the way you talk about fair use. The cryptographic system in CPRM is precisely a response to fair use. You have the right to space shift and time shift your stuff, so go ahead, CPRM wont stop you. What you dont have the right to do is make verbatium copies.. that is what the challenge is going to be. That is what's gunna be interesting to watch. For once we might see the a real war over copyright. Not some war where pirates do their little thing and the lawyers do their little thing. Instead we'll have crypto on both sides, fighting with the same tools. If you're a normal user you wont have any problems. If you do have problems, well hey, it's your money, dont buy their shit.
I've already debated the question of whether copyright is good or the media companies have rights to do this crap until the cows come home. Let's stop arguing and do what we can to fuck over these evil plans. If we go the way of law the only people we have to protect us is lawyers and politicians.. at least if we go the industry way we can fight the fight outselves. Let them copy protect everything, there will be ways to get around it and hopefully it will piss people off enough that they will starting thinking about whether these media cartels are a good thing for them or not. But inact laws and we will be spending all our time talking to lawyers and worrying about being thrown in jail.
no worries.. it was like 2am when i wrote this and yer, I got dissed on the register for saying "quitely convincing" which the guy didn't know if I ment "quite convincing" or "quietly convincing".. frankly I was just trying to introduce the word "quitely" to the english language in a subversive way ;)
What part of my sentence are you not understanding: CPRM replaces all existing DVD technology. Everything you know is wrong. CPRM will encrypt the content that is on DVD disks now with a better encryption method than CSS (well, apparently). Hope that's clear.
The point is, this is a new encryption system which is more effective than CSS. If you can decrypt the DVD then you can reburn with no encryption, no problem, but the system is supposed to make it hard for you to decrypt the DVD.