What you need is a sealed box with really really well written software (yer right, guess you could pay a lot of math geeks to prove it correct or something) that does nothing but log packets onto read only media. Then you don't need to secure your box cause you can rest assured that if you are cracked you can just take the logs to your local law enforcement officer who can go and get the logs from the connecting addresses and track down the cracker.. BAWAHAHAHAHAHA.. as if that would work.
bah.. gimme that man's 12 kids and I'll teach em all to code in java/C++/Perl/VB whatever and get em all contracting jobs. They'll be so rich they won't know what they used to bitch and moan about. Of course, then people will say I'm exploiting a third world country, which, in a way, I am.
Every bank in.au runs on NT. I offered to port the EFTPOS software to unix (a very small part of the banking system that reads data from a slow ass modem, pumps it into a proprietory encryption device and dumps it back down the modem). It would have been a simple job and the distributor was willing. He went to get approval from the banks and was turned down. Why? They didn't trust unix security. They had bought the NT is secure line from Microsoft and weren't going back.
bah.. like you'd need to install your own backdoors.. just browse the source for five minutes and look for the comments that say/*** THIS COULD BE A SECURITY BUG, FIX THIS!!! ***/
bah.. even if I intend to hack the white house I have the right to program whatever the hell I want. When I hack the white house you can come and get me, until then, stay off my harddrive.
heh.. the term windoze was originally coined to refer to the amount of time it takes for Microsoft to fix a security bug. Ie, like they are asleep. This is also the same with Slowaris. Often the term is used a derogetory because of a lack of stability. You see, to a lot of people an operating system can never be considered good if it crashes twice a day (although my winnt crashes twice a day, most people's do not, on the other hand, win9x crashes twice a day for most people) even if there are lots and lots of apps written for it.
Why is this score 0? He's right.. and it is a very good point. The Amiga couldn't run c64 games, so everyone wrote new games and they blew the c128 and the c64 out of the water. (although I still prefered the c64 version of IK+.. bouncing balls > exploding bricks).
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the irony is that although 'the Moon' is the archetypical moon, it doesn't fit this definition, as both the Moon and Earth rotate around a point in space between the two and outside the Earth.
My brother is somewhat of an alarmist when it comes to his broadband connection. He runs antivirus software and scans his computer regularly and he does sometimes find things. Often windows will crash and reset to some 3 month old registry settings and he will be forced to reinstall - he will firmly blame this on a virus. Once he found a virus on his computer and quickly sort someone to blame. Obviously it couldn't be his fault for downloading every crack he can find and running it on his computer. Turns out he got the idea that it must have been his girlfriend running Napster on his pc. I had to patiently explain to him that there are no mp3 viruses. That mp3's don't contain code and although exploiting holes in Napster to propogate viruses may be possible, I seriously doubt that is what happened. The argument lasted for hours. Are you aware of how difficult it is to argue with someone about how they got a virus when they don't know the difference between code and data?
obviously the "nice cheap" games are priced much higher than the cost of producing them
Hmm.. lets think.. a game costs $69.. the cost of development is what, $100,000 or more? Yes.. they are priced less than what it costs to make them.. that's why they are sold multiple times. Sony is essentially equivilent to a buying collective. They say, "ok.. we'll agree to market your game to all our customers - who have willfully purchased our restrictive game machine for precisely this reason - however, you cannot charge more for the game than our customers are willing to pay". And to ensure that developers can play only by their rules they use NDA's and trade secrets. If you don't like their system, don't join their collective, but lots of people do like their system. Isn't it their choice?
Hmm.. is that really how it would go down? Or would the judge be more inclined to think that Crystal Space was illicetly peddling a trade secret to second rate developers to undermine the Sony platform.
No, but to sell any game for the playstation 2 you would have to have Sony's license. Otherwise you wouldn't even be permitted to say the word "playstation" in your advertisement of the product. Plus there's the fact that Sony would totally bomb you to the public. "This is an unauthorized game. It does not meet the strict requirements of Sony's licensing procedures. It is crap." And if all else fails they can go in front of a judge and sue you for causing damage to their platform: Inspiring consumer rebelion to by unauthorized games weakens consumer satisfaction in their product (for example when the game crashes because it hasn't been properly tested).
No you dipshit.. that is what he just said. Read the post again and think this time. The code can be open as the wind and still be Proprietary and in the case of any code that is GPL'd (or any other license for that matter) is Proprietary. Proprietary = someone claims ownership of it. If you disclaim ownership of something it becomes Public Domain (or "free") and no longer Proprietary. Are we done with the semantics lesson now? Ok. That said, words always have different meanings in different contexts. In the software industry it is difficult to find software that is Proprietary and not Copylefted that is not closed. But it exists. Sun makes a lot of software that is Open and Proprietary.
I like it. You pretty much summed up what most computer users do. "License, yer.. I've got a license.. oh.. the software? You need a license.. ok, where do I apply? What I've already got one? Ahhhh.. it's a think I have to follow.. why's that?" It's stupid shit and frankly you have to be curious as to what kind of a moron actually thinks that there is ANYONE out there protecting their "license". There's no way to enforce it and there's no reason for people to follow it. Occasionally someone might think "hey.. I could get arrested for copying this game" and then, after a suitable pause for reflection, they burst into laughter and for the next hour make mocking play acting of being dragged away by police and being locked up. "What are you in here for?" "I killed my wife and two kids. You?" "oh.. I umm.. copied Halflife" "scum".
I love the way you actually think it could happen. There has obviously been zero research done into the whole playstation thing anyway. Sony would grant the NDA enforced license to the member of the Crystal Space team to write the driver sure. But they would then demand the author of any game that used then engine to sign a seperate licensing agreement which probably included an NDA as well. Sony cannot allow anyone to develop for their platform. That's their business model. Give away the machine, sell licenses to game developers.
I can't say I was suprised but it is truely phenomonal that he doesn't know what a game console is. I mean, jesus, these things were around before personal computers. Someone ask RMS if he knows what an "arcade machine" is..
Yes, because any company that would give away a $600 computer for $199 (and $99 at christmas) and supply millions of people with endless entertainment has got to be evil. Why are they evil? Because they force programmers to develop quality games and sign agreements not to help rogue programmers from making crappy games that would undermine customer satisfaction and send said customer into the hands of a competitor results in an increase in the base price of both the console and the games. Bah. Your choice, pay $3000 for a half decent gaming computer and bitch and moan that the latest game you paid more for than those console guys sux or buy a $200 console with nice cheap games that are guarenteed to work first time, every time. Consoles arnt for everyone but lots of people love them and for good reason. Give them the freedom to trade the rights they never use (modifying the game and giving a copy to their neighbour) for a system they can afford and understand.
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What you need is a sealed box with really really well written software (yer right, guess you could pay a lot of math geeks to prove it correct or something) that does nothing but log packets onto read only media. Then you don't need to secure your box cause you can rest assured that if you are cracked you can just take the logs to your local law enforcement officer who can go and get the logs from the connecting addresses and track down the cracker.. BAWAHAHAHAHAHA.. as if that would work.
bah.. gimme that man's 12 kids and I'll teach em all to code in java/C++/Perl/VB whatever and get em all contracting jobs. They'll be so rich they won't know what they used to bitch and moan about. Of course, then people will say I'm exploiting a third world country, which, in a way, I am.
Every bank in .au runs on NT. I offered to port the EFTPOS software to unix (a very small part of the banking system that reads data from a slow ass modem, pumps it into a proprietory encryption device and dumps it back down the modem). It would have been a simple job and the distributor was willing. He went to get approval from the banks and was turned down. Why? They didn't trust unix security. They had bought the NT is secure line from Microsoft and weren't going back.
bah.. like you'd need to install your own backdoors.. just browse the source for five minutes and look for the comments that say /*** THIS COULD BE A SECURITY BUG, FIX THIS!!! ***/
You should send that to MSNBC, they would probably publish it.
bah.. even if I intend to hack the white house I have the right to program whatever the hell I want. When I hack the white house you can come and get me, until then, stay off my harddrive.
*cough* WIPO *cough*
That's plausable. It's not like it is a great leap from ows to oze.
You could run bochs. www.bochs.com, don't let the outdated web page fool you, it is LGPL'd.
heh.. the term windoze was originally coined to refer to the amount of time it takes for Microsoft to fix a security bug. Ie, like they are asleep. This is also the same with Slowaris. Often the term is used a derogetory because of a lack of stability. You see, to a lot of people an operating system can never be considered good if it crashes twice a day (although my winnt crashes twice a day, most people's do not, on the other hand, win9x crashes twice a day for most people) even if there are lots and lots of apps written for it.
Why is this score 0? He's right.. and it is a very good point. The Amiga couldn't run c64 games, so everyone wrote new games and they blew the c128 and the c64 out of the water. (although I still prefered the c64 version of IK+ .. bouncing balls > exploding bricks).
Sounds to me like the sphere needs to be bigger.
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the irony is that although 'the Moon' is the archetypical moon, it doesn't fit this definition, as both the Moon and Earth rotate around a point in space between the two and outside the Earth.
So who is right?
My brother is somewhat of an alarmist when it comes to his broadband connection. He runs antivirus software and scans his computer regularly and he does sometimes find things. Often windows will crash and reset to some 3 month old registry settings and he will be forced to reinstall - he will firmly blame this on a virus. Once he found a virus on his computer and quickly sort someone to blame. Obviously it couldn't be his fault for downloading every crack he can find and running it on his computer. Turns out he got the idea that it must have been his girlfriend running Napster on his pc. I had to patiently explain to him that there are no mp3 viruses. That mp3's don't contain code and although exploiting holes in Napster to propogate viruses may be possible, I seriously doubt that is what happened. The argument lasted for hours. Are you aware of how difficult it is to argue with someone about how they got a virus when they don't know the difference between code and data?
.. before she got fat.. man.. I love the one in the yellow top. Anyone got an email address? I have some net stalking to do.
obviously the "nice cheap" games are priced much higher than the cost of producing them
Hmm.. lets think.. a game costs $69.. the cost of development is what, $100,000 or more? Yes.. they are priced less than what it costs to make them.. that's why they are sold multiple times. Sony is essentially equivilent to a buying collective. They say, "ok.. we'll agree to market your game to all our customers - who have willfully purchased our restrictive game machine for precisely this reason - however, you cannot charge more for the game than our customers are willing to pay". And to ensure that developers can play only by their rules they use NDA's and trade secrets. If you don't like their system, don't join their collective, but lots of people do like their system. Isn't it their choice?
Hmm.. is that really how it would go down? Or would the judge be more inclined to think that Crystal Space was illicetly peddling a trade secret to second rate developers to undermine the Sony platform.
No, but to sell any game for the playstation 2 you would have to have Sony's license. Otherwise you wouldn't even be permitted to say the word "playstation" in your advertisement of the product. Plus there's the fact that Sony would totally bomb you to the public. "This is an unauthorized game. It does not meet the strict requirements of Sony's licensing procedures. It is crap." And if all else fails they can go in front of a judge and sue you for causing damage to their platform: Inspiring consumer rebelion to by unauthorized games weakens consumer satisfaction in their product (for example when the game crashes because it hasn't been properly tested).
Some rights are reserved. Who is reserving those rights? The copyright owner. Thus it is Proprietary.
No you dipshit.. that is what he just said. Read the post again and think this time. The code can be open as the wind and still be Proprietary and in the case of any code that is GPL'd (or any other license for that matter) is Proprietary. Proprietary = someone claims ownership of it. If you disclaim ownership of something it becomes Public Domain (or "free") and no longer Proprietary. Are we done with the semantics lesson now? Ok. That said, words always have different meanings in different contexts. In the software industry it is difficult to find software that is Proprietary and not Copylefted that is not closed. But it exists. Sun makes a lot of software that is Open and Proprietary.
I like it. You pretty much summed up what most computer users do. "License, yer.. I've got a license.. oh.. the software? You need a license.. ok, where do I apply? What I've already got one? Ahhhh.. it's a think I have to follow.. why's that?" It's stupid shit and frankly you have to be curious as to what kind of a moron actually thinks that there is ANYONE out there protecting their "license". There's no way to enforce it and there's no reason for people to follow it. Occasionally someone might think "hey.. I could get arrested for copying this game" and then, after a suitable pause for reflection, they burst into laughter and for the next hour make mocking play acting of being dragged away by police and being locked up. "What are you in here for?" "I killed my wife and two kids. You?" "oh.. I umm.. copied Halflife" "scum".
I love the way you actually think it could happen. There has obviously been zero research done into the whole playstation thing anyway. Sony would grant the NDA enforced license to the member of the Crystal Space team to write the driver sure. But they would then demand the author of any game that used then engine to sign a seperate licensing agreement which probably included an NDA as well. Sony cannot allow anyone to develop for their platform. That's their business model. Give away the machine, sell licenses to game developers.
I can't say I was suprised but it is truely phenomonal that he doesn't know what a game console is. I mean, jesus, these things were around before personal computers. Someone ask RMS if he knows what an "arcade machine" is..
Yes, because any company that would give away a $600 computer for $199 (and $99 at christmas) and supply millions of people with endless entertainment has got to be evil. Why are they evil? Because they force programmers to develop quality games and sign agreements not to help rogue programmers from making crappy games that would undermine customer satisfaction and send said customer into the hands of a competitor results in an increase in the base price of both the console and the games. Bah. Your choice, pay $3000 for a half decent gaming computer and bitch and moan that the latest game you paid more for than those console guys sux or buy a $200 console with nice cheap games that are guarenteed to work first time, every time. Consoles arnt for everyone but lots of people love them and for good reason. Give them the freedom to trade the rights they never use (modifying the game and giving a copy to their neighbour) for a system they can afford and understand.
Ivory tower, how very true. He does come down you know, but he never listens, he only speaks.