SERIOUSLY. Show me proof because I am 100% sure you are full of shit. No judge in their right mind would allow a free speech law to stand like that. If they did, it would be struck on appeal (and it WOULD be appealed).
I just read through it as 'cock', but, yeah, that's a weird use for wanker. I always thought it meant something like asshole (not the body part), or masturbator. Likewise, I've always thought that wank means masturbate. Of course, to my midwestern (US) tastes, wank and wanker sound a bit childlike, kind of like poo, bum and wee. Being an adult, I would never say them unless I specifically wanted (for whatever reason) to sound like a little kid or was talking to young children. Of course, I'm sure our slang rubs you all the same way. Especially pissed, which for whatever reason, yall think means drunk.
Haven't you heard about Debian and its "Iceweasel" (Seamonkey?) debacle? If you had, and had understood its implications, the joke would have been somewhat funny.
Or at least allows you to. All universities and colleges MUST allow you to change your student ID to something other than your SSN if you ask (and are encouraged to not use SSNs anyway, though not required). It's federal law (a law passed about five years ago, I beleive). Ask and you shall receive. If you don't, sue and you shall receive even more.
Port? Debian is Linux. I see no reason for it not to run on any other Linux of similar Glibc (in other works, practically all of them since three years ago.). Shit, I run software "for Redhat" and "for Debian" all the time on my Gentoo system and have never had any problems. (In case you wonder, the printer and scanner drivers for my Brother MFC-7420 are "for debian". I extracted them using Knoppix disc and copied them to my Gentoo box. My Counter-Strike Source dedicated server is "for redhat", as is VMWare-Server, but they work fine.)
If you were just talking about it only being in.deb and source form, don't forget that all major distros include and package format converter/installer that'll have no troubles installing a.deb, and they all have the libraries and compilers necessary to do it from source.
Did you not get the part about how making abortion illegal doesn't effect how many abortions occur. As such, the "babies" are already dead. WE CAN'T STOP ABORTIONS FROM HAPPENING. It's as simple as that. Only when you accept people the way they are can you sensibly make policy concerning them. The abortions won't stop, ever. All we really can do is prevent the pregnancies from occuring in the first. As heartless as it sounds, there's no bringing the dead fetuses back to life. Making abortion illegal won't help. We can, however, ensure that the mothers don't die as well, something that can't be done when abortion is illegal. Being anti-abortion is like be anti-drug; you're on the losing side of a battle that can only end when you shut up.
Truthfully, I hate abortion as much as you do, but I recognize a losing battle when I see one, and I refuse to bury my head in the sand. Ethically, you're right; abortion is wrong, but outlawing abortion is not a solution. Being against abortion, whilst keeping it both safe and rare is.
Anti-abortionists kind of remind me of PETA. Ethically, they're right. Killing is animals when not absolutely necessary is wrong. But they're on the losing side of a battle that will only end when they shut up. People who eat animals will never go away, even if we were to outlaw it. The only way the battle will ever end, is when PETA gives up. Alternatively, they could come to a compromise. While, ethically, eating any animal is wrong, isn't free-range farming a better alternative to high-volume (what a euphamism)? Obviously, the killing of animals will never stop, but at least we can take measures to ensure that the animals are safe and live a torture-free life. To me, that sounds like a good compromise, but to PETA that's no better than before. There is no compromise. The Palestinians feel the same about Isreal.
And about no one forcing mothers to get back-alley abortions: That position is grossy misinformed. You probably also think that welfare recipients should get off their asses and get a job.
No, no, no, they can't keep, lest they will be sued. A better strategy is to have posting, and porno designations fully automated and only remove when a copyright holder specifically requests removal. If they are pro-active at removing infringing works then they lose their common-carrier/search engine status (albeit only for YouTube/Google Videos, not for standard web searches), and can b liable for any infringing works. If they only remove them upon request of the copyright holder, then they are never liable for infringing works unless they choose not to act upon the request. Also note that the requests must be for specific videos, not for "all videos with J-Lo's ass", otherwise they lose their common-carrier status. And, no, as long as the hosting is automated and a removal policy set forth, it doesn't matter that Google is doing the hosting. KaZaa and Napster lost because they didn't have a removal policy.
The problem is that, in general, Palestinians are like anti-abortionists. It doesn't matter what compromise you offer them, they're never satisfied and they won't be satisfied until either they're dead or the other side is dead. On several occasions Palestine has been offered it's own share of land and a normal representation and they won't take it. They just keep saying, "Death to Isreal!!!" like complete morons. It's just like "pro-lifers." Even when the pro-choice side offers a compromise like Bill Clinton did (safe, legal and rare), they just won't take it. And they'd be just as violent if it wasn't for our police force catching them so quickly.
And to you "pro-lifers" out there: "Safe, legal and rare" IS a compromise. It seeks to establish and education that abortion is wrong and shouldn't be done. It seeks to advocate adoption for unwanted children. It also seeks to prevent unwanted children by preventing the pregnancy in the first place with safe-sex-based sex ed, as well as birth control and condom distribution. The numbers clearly show that abstinance only education doesn't work and is less successful than safe sex education; therefore, abstinance-only education shouldn't be used. (Most "pro-lifers" are also anti-safe-sex-ed.) Evidence also clearly shows that free condom distribution (especially to high school students) and making birth control availabl to anyone (including minors, without parental notification) both SERIOUSLY REDUCE unwanted pregnancies and abortions. We need to use what works, not what crazy preachers think the bible says (read the Gospels and then tell me that you should follow Leviticus' rules; read Romans and then tell me that Jesus gave a shit about what Paul thought.).
On another abortion note (sorry to tangent, but comparing is Palestinians to anti-abortionists is going to get me flamed, so I may as well start defending myself early), the number of abortions per capita is directly related to the number of unwanted pregnancies and has nothing to do with availability. The number of abortions in Texas didn't rise after Roe v. Wade. The only difference between having abortions legal and having them illegal is how many women die as a result of having one. So you see, illegalizing abortion is really a pro-death-of-the-mother action and not a pro-life-of-the-baby action. A true pro-life advocate would seek to promote safe sex, condoms, birth control and adoption and not seek to illegalize abortion, hence the reason I refuse to call anti-abortionist pro-life.
And, no, I don't consider abortion morally acceptable; I just refuse to take a position without first considering both sides. Of course, I don't consider war, or any other type of violence (even most police action) to be morally acceptable either, under nearly any circumstance. To do so would be unethical. I just wish I could give up eating meat and become more in line with my chosen values.
If you want those numbers, just say the word and I'll dig them up. __ My 'E' key sticks in case you're wondering.
It's not my main job. I run a cybercafe and my customers bring thier crap in, plus random nieghborhood people. No advertising, just plain old word of mouth.
It doesn't but if they installed that shit, who knows how many rootkits they got themselves into, and how many viruses, spywares and other nasties they installed. The last time I tried to clear a machine of viruses and malware, I ran three virus scanners (fully up to date) and 4 spyware removers and still couldn't get it all. And the amount of time that takes would cost my customers way too much. It's much more affordable to just get a reformat and reinstall and be done with it.
About the fdisk, it's to get rid of that pointless Rescue partition that HP and Dell (and the other major brands) stick on your HG to waste space. I man three gigs for a WinXP SP1 installer. Screw that. I have an XP SP2 disk with Firefox 1.5.0.4 (it'll update itself after installation), Thunderbird and all the windows updates through two months ago (and Outlook Express has been removed for good measure). There's no way I'm going to use that rescue part to do the job and leaving it available for the kiddies to screw themselves later is just bad form.
You speak English and are apparently somewhat intelligent (while the American eductation system in general sucks ass, if you're bothering to come here from abroad, I'm going to assume you're going to go to one of the better schools.), so you'll do fine. Besides, you can always take it again.
In case, you wonder, it just has general logic, reading, math, and scientific deduction questions. The only thing to worry about are the analogies, but they're easier on the actual test than they are on the practice tests. Anyway, this test is nothing that any high school freshman in the US shouldn't be able to do at least half-way decently, which means an average high school student of any other industrialized nation should pass with flying colors. If it tells you anything, I flunked out of college three semesters in a row and got a 2.0 GPA in high school and yet I got a 1492 composite (out of 1600) on the SAT I.
If you're still worried, order one of those SAT I practice trainers from Amazon.
You've activated a lot. Microsoft makes you call them every time you install after you've used a specific key a certain number of times (something like 3). Whatever, it's not that big a deal. And concerning OEM and retail. The first sale doctrine prevents Microsoft from actually doing anything to you if you move an OEM license from computer to computer as long as it's only on one at a time (VMWare inclusive: one license, one VMWare image (although snapshots used as backups are cool)). They can bitch and whine all they want but they won't get far in court, and wouldn't take it that far anyway, considering what a "loss" an actual loss in court would be for them. In fact, if you call them up, they'll give you the activation code every time. All you have to do is tell that lovely Indian that you've only installed that copy of Windows on the computer you're activating and you're golden. I've done literally hundreds of activations and reactivations (probably over thirty on one license key alone (hardware testing)) and I've never had them do anything other than ask me that question and give me my number. Just make your phone calls like the rest of us and stop complaining.
See? Now wasn't that easy? In fact, wasn't that less extra typing than your lame apology for not using HTML? (And, yes, you got off light. This isn't 1999. You should know how to write an a tag.)
No it isn't. This came up in Michigan (my home state) a few years ago and the courts struck it down hard (Hi-rez Proof). You simply can't regulate language in the US. This argument kind of reminds me of the argument people get in over kids being able to see rated R movies. There's no law against it anywhere in the US; it's just a policy decision of theatres, but people seem to think such a law exists because the policy is so widespread. It's the same thing with swearing in public; there's no law against it but so few people do it that it seems like it must be illegal.
More math for you then. First, realize that most houses in the US receive 100A 220V split phase power. Most gas stations receive house level power because it is more that they need and cheaper to install. Knocking a few dollars off when building a gas station is important to them because they tear down gas stations every ten years or so, during the tank replacement, usually because the tanks are partially under the building. Most smaller commercial buildings (up to the size of decent restaurant or even strip mall) receive 250A 120V/208V 3-phase power, which gives a voltage of 240V across all three phases. At maximum draw, assuming 100% efficiency and 100% dedication to charging batteries, that 250A 240V feed you would get a maximum of 40 charges per day, assuming the 0.25 $/kWh figure was accurate or 6.4 charges per day assuming the 0.04 $/kWh figure was accurate. Holy shit.
Now, knowing something about power, I'm sure they would go up to a higher service level to help cover it, but how much can we go? Would they switch to 315V/600V power at 1000A to get 67.2-420 charges per day? And how are the power coompanies going to keep up? No city's grid right now could handle that kind of load, or even anything close to it.
Furthermore, do you have any idea how thick the cable would have to be to transmit power at 1000A? Were talking like 0000 AWG here. We'd have to go back to full-service and start weight training our gas station attendants.
Anywho, I'm not dissing this as a possible alternative fuel technology. Actually, I think it would be great, but I don't think that these ultracapacitors are very feasible. I think that having a battery recharge/exchange program would be much more efficient. It'd be kind of like the propane exchanges we have now.
But yes, swearing loudly in a small public space should be regulated, and if the FCC doesn't have the constitutional authority to do so, then we should have a constitutional convention and create an authority which can.
Freedom, motherfucker. Love it or get the fuck out.
No. Yelling fuck at people is never, no matter how loud you do it, a crime. It's only a crime if it creates a public disturbance. Of course, there is a standard for what constitutes a public disturbance, and I'm sure screaming fuck really loud at people might qualify, but probably only at night or if it stops traffic, or otherwise creates violence. It's only sexual harrassment if you ask yell out, "Fuck me!! Fuck me right in the ass!" (or any such similar command or request) to a specific person in such a manner as for them or others to seriously think you were asking them to have sex with you.
400W PSUs don't really draw 400W. That's just their max, a maximum that will NEVER be reached. In reality, a 20 machine lab, air conditioning and lighting costs including will only cost about $300-$400 per month, in the summer. $200 or so in the winter. That's about the same as the cost for the football stadium's lighting, assuming they use the lights once per month. The cost of lighting would be probably be the biggest surprise to most people.
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SERIOUSLY. Show me proof because I am 100% sure you are full of shit. No judge in their right mind would allow a free speech law to stand like that. If they did, it would be struck on appeal (and it WOULD be appealed).
I just read through it as 'cock', but, yeah, that's a weird use for wanker. I always thought it meant something like asshole (not the body part), or masturbator. Likewise, I've always thought that wank means masturbate. Of course, to my midwestern (US) tastes, wank and wanker sound a bit childlike, kind of like poo, bum and wee. Being an adult, I would never say them unless I specifically wanted (for whatever reason) to sound like a little kid or was talking to young children. Of course, I'm sure our slang rubs you all the same way. Especially pissed, which for whatever reason, yall think means drunk.
The proper term is "receiver." (Yes, it's safe for work, and much funnier than the original.)
Recharging your MacBook twice as often or testicular cancer? Which would YOU choose?
Haven't you heard about Debian and its "Iceweasel" (Seamonkey?) debacle? If you had, and had understood its implications, the joke would have been somewhat funny.
Or at least allows you to. All universities and colleges MUST allow you to change your student ID to something other than your SSN if you ask (and are encouraged to not use SSNs anyway, though not required). It's federal law (a law passed about five years ago, I beleive). Ask and you shall receive. If you don't, sue and you shall receive even more.
"Hey, Boss, what's your Social Security number?"
"Nought, nought, nought. Nought, nought. Nought, nought, nought, one. Damn Roosevelt."
Port? Debian is Linux. I see no reason for it not to run on any other Linux of similar Glibc (in other works, practically all of them since three years ago.). Shit, I run software "for Redhat" and "for Debian" all the time on my Gentoo system and have never had any problems. (In case you wonder, the printer and scanner drivers for my Brother MFC-7420 are "for debian". I extracted them using Knoppix disc and copied them to my Gentoo box. My Counter-Strike Source dedicated server is "for redhat", as is VMWare-Server, but they work fine.)
.deb and source form, don't forget that all major distros include and package format converter/installer that'll have no troubles installing a .deb, and they all have the libraries and compilers necessary to do it from source.
If you were just talking about it only being in
Did you not get the part about how making abortion illegal doesn't effect how many abortions occur. As such, the "babies" are already dead. WE CAN'T STOP ABORTIONS FROM HAPPENING. It's as simple as that. Only when you accept people the way they are can you sensibly make policy concerning them. The abortions won't stop, ever. All we really can do is prevent the pregnancies from occuring in the first. As heartless as it sounds, there's no bringing the dead fetuses back to life. Making abortion illegal won't help. We can, however, ensure that the mothers don't die as well, something that can't be done when abortion is illegal. Being anti-abortion is like be anti-drug; you're on the losing side of a battle that can only end when you shut up.
Truthfully, I hate abortion as much as you do, but I recognize a losing battle when I see one, and I refuse to bury my head in the sand. Ethically, you're right; abortion is wrong, but outlawing abortion is not a solution. Being against abortion, whilst keeping it both safe and rare is.
Anti-abortionists kind of remind me of PETA. Ethically, they're right. Killing is animals when not absolutely necessary is wrong. But they're on the losing side of a battle that will only end when they shut up. People who eat animals will never go away, even if we were to outlaw it. The only way the battle will ever end, is when PETA gives up. Alternatively, they could come to a compromise. While, ethically, eating any animal is wrong, isn't free-range farming a better alternative to high-volume (what a euphamism)? Obviously, the killing of animals will never stop, but at least we can take measures to ensure that the animals are safe and live a torture-free life. To me, that sounds like a good compromise, but to PETA that's no better than before. There is no compromise. The Palestinians feel the same about Isreal.
And about no one forcing mothers to get back-alley abortions: That position is grossy misinformed. You probably also think that welfare recipients should get off their asses and get a job.
No, no, no, they can't keep, lest they will be sued. A better strategy is to have posting, and porno designations fully automated and only remove when a copyright holder specifically requests removal. If they are pro-active at removing infringing works then they lose their common-carrier/search engine status (albeit only for YouTube/Google Videos, not for standard web searches), and can b liable for any infringing works. If they only remove them upon request of the copyright holder, then they are never liable for infringing works unless they choose not to act upon the request. Also note that the requests must be for specific videos, not for "all videos with J-Lo's ass", otherwise they lose their common-carrier status. And, no, as long as the hosting is automated and a removal policy set forth, it doesn't matter that Google is doing the hosting. KaZaa and Napster lost because they didn't have a removal policy.
The problem is that, in general, Palestinians are like anti-abortionists. It doesn't matter what compromise you offer them, they're never satisfied and they won't be satisfied until either they're dead or the other side is dead. On several occasions Palestine has been offered it's own share of land and a normal representation and they won't take it. They just keep saying, "Death to Isreal!!!" like complete morons. It's just like "pro-lifers." Even when the pro-choice side offers a compromise like Bill Clinton did (safe, legal and rare), they just won't take it. And they'd be just as violent if it wasn't for our police force catching them so quickly.
And to you "pro-lifers" out there: "Safe, legal and rare" IS a compromise. It seeks to establish and education that abortion is wrong and shouldn't be done. It seeks to advocate adoption for unwanted children. It also seeks to prevent unwanted children by preventing the pregnancy in the first place with safe-sex-based sex ed, as well as birth control and condom distribution. The numbers clearly show that abstinance only education doesn't work and is less successful than safe sex education; therefore, abstinance-only education shouldn't be used. (Most "pro-lifers" are also anti-safe-sex-ed.) Evidence also clearly shows that free condom distribution (especially to high school students) and making birth control availabl to anyone (including minors, without parental notification) both SERIOUSLY REDUCE unwanted pregnancies and abortions. We need to use what works, not what crazy preachers think the bible says (read the Gospels and then tell me that you should follow Leviticus' rules; read Romans and then tell me that Jesus gave a shit about what Paul thought.).
On another abortion note (sorry to tangent, but comparing is Palestinians to anti-abortionists is going to get me flamed, so I may as well start defending myself early), the number of abortions per capita is directly related to the number of unwanted pregnancies and has nothing to do with availability. The number of abortions in Texas didn't rise after Roe v. Wade. The only difference between having abortions legal and having them illegal is how many women die as a result of having one. So you see, illegalizing abortion is really a pro-death-of-the-mother action and not a pro-life-of-the-baby action. A true pro-life advocate would seek to promote safe sex, condoms, birth control and adoption and not seek to illegalize abortion, hence the reason I refuse to call anti-abortionist pro-life.
And, no, I don't consider abortion morally acceptable; I just refuse to take a position without first considering both sides. Of course, I don't consider war, or any other type of violence (even most police action) to be morally acceptable either, under nearly any circumstance. To do so would be unethical. I just wish I could give up eating meat and become more in line with my chosen values.
If you want those numbers, just say the word and I'll dig them up.
__
My 'E' key sticks in case you're wondering.
It's not my main job. I run a cybercafe and my customers bring thier crap in, plus random nieghborhood people. No advertising, just plain old word of mouth.
It doesn't but if they installed that shit, who knows how many rootkits they got themselves into, and how many viruses, spywares and other nasties they installed. The last time I tried to clear a machine of viruses and malware, I ran three virus scanners (fully up to date) and 4 spyware removers and still couldn't get it all. And the amount of time that takes would cost my customers way too much. It's much more affordable to just get a reformat and reinstall and be done with it.
About the fdisk, it's to get rid of that pointless Rescue partition that HP and Dell (and the other major brands) stick on your HG to waste space. I man three gigs for a WinXP SP1 installer. Screw that. I have an XP SP2 disk with Firefox 1.5.0.4 (it'll update itself after installation), Thunderbird and all the windows updates through two months ago (and Outlook Express has been removed for good measure). There's no way I'm going to use that rescue part to do the job and leaving it available for the kiddies to screw themselves later is just bad form.
Um, that's what the man said. Kids with their lack of reading comprehension skills today.
I do such cleanings all the time. They invariably start with fdisk and end with a fresh install of firefox and thunderbird. And then I get paid.
Finally, someone else noticed this!!!
You speak English and are apparently somewhat intelligent (while the American eductation system in general sucks ass, if you're bothering to come here from abroad, I'm going to assume you're going to go to one of the better schools.), so you'll do fine. Besides, you can always take it again.
In case, you wonder, it just has general logic, reading, math, and scientific deduction questions. The only thing to worry about are the analogies, but they're easier on the actual test than they are on the practice tests. Anyway, this test is nothing that any high school freshman in the US shouldn't be able to do at least half-way decently, which means an average high school student of any other industrialized nation should pass with flying colors. If it tells you anything, I flunked out of college three semesters in a row and got a 2.0 GPA in high school and yet I got a 1492 composite (out of 1600) on the SAT I.
If you're still worried, order one of those SAT I practice trainers from Amazon.
capturing the dearly departed, etc.
Holy Jesus, we can capture ghosts now with our 1 inch laser PET scans!!!
You've activated a lot. Microsoft makes you call them every time you install after you've used a specific key a certain number of times (something like 3). Whatever, it's not that big a deal. And concerning OEM and retail. The first sale doctrine prevents Microsoft from actually doing anything to you if you move an OEM license from computer to computer as long as it's only on one at a time (VMWare inclusive: one license, one VMWare image (although snapshots used as backups are cool)). They can bitch and whine all they want but they won't get far in court, and wouldn't take it that far anyway, considering what a "loss" an actual loss in court would be for them. In fact, if you call them up, they'll give you the activation code every time. All you have to do is tell that lovely Indian that you've only installed that copy of Windows on the computer you're activating and you're golden. I've done literally hundreds of activations and reactivations (probably over thirty on one license key alone (hardware testing)) and I've never had them do anything other than ask me that question and give me my number. Just make your phone calls like the rest of us and stop complaining.
For future reference, HTML links are easy as balls to write and remember. You just toss in an anchor tag which looks like this (write this down):
r ass.html">Link Text Goes Here.</a> More shit that isn't a link.
Shit that isn't a link. <a href="http://www.whateverthefuck.com/buttfuck/you
Which will look like this on the page (but in the normal font):
Shit that isn't a link. Link Text Goes Here. More shit that isn't a link.
See? Now wasn't that easy? In fact, wasn't that less extra typing than your lame apology for not using HTML? (And, yes, you got off light. This isn't 1999. You should know how to write an a tag.)
No it isn't. This came up in Michigan (my home state) a few years ago and the courts struck it down hard (Hi-rez Proof). You simply can't regulate language in the US. This argument kind of reminds me of the argument people get in over kids being able to see rated R movies. There's no law against it anywhere in the US; it's just a policy decision of theatres, but people seem to think such a law exists because the policy is so widespread. It's the same thing with swearing in public; there's no law against it but so few people do it that it seems like it must be illegal.
More math for you then. First, realize that most houses in the US receive 100A 220V split phase power. Most gas stations receive house level power because it is more that they need and cheaper to install. Knocking a few dollars off when building a gas station is important to them because they tear down gas stations every ten years or so, during the tank replacement, usually because the tanks are partially under the building. Most smaller commercial buildings (up to the size of decent restaurant or even strip mall) receive 250A 120V/208V 3-phase power, which gives a voltage of 240V across all three phases. At maximum draw, assuming 100% efficiency and 100% dedication to charging batteries, that 250A 240V feed you would get a maximum of 40 charges per day, assuming the 0.25 $/kWh figure was accurate or 6.4 charges per day assuming the 0.04 $/kWh figure was accurate. Holy shit.
Now, knowing something about power, I'm sure they would go up to a higher service level to help cover it, but how much can we go? Would they switch to 315V/600V power at 1000A to get 67.2-420 charges per day? And how are the power coompanies going to keep up? No city's grid right now could handle that kind of load, or even anything close to it.
Furthermore, do you have any idea how thick the cable would have to be to transmit power at 1000A? Were talking like 0000 AWG here. We'd have to go back to full-service and start weight training our gas station attendants.
Anywho, I'm not dissing this as a possible alternative fuel technology. Actually, I think it would be great, but I don't think that these ultracapacitors are very feasible. I think that having a battery recharge/exchange program would be much more efficient. It'd be kind of like the propane exchanges we have now.
But yes, swearing loudly in a small public space should be regulated, and if the FCC doesn't have the constitutional authority to do so, then we should have a constitutional convention and create an authority which can.
Freedom, motherfucker. Love it or get the fuck out.
No. Yelling fuck at people is never, no matter how loud you do it, a crime. It's only a crime if it creates a public disturbance. Of course, there is a standard for what constitutes a public disturbance, and I'm sure screaming fuck really loud at people might qualify, but probably only at night or if it stops traffic, or otherwise creates violence. It's only sexual harrassment if you ask yell out, "Fuck me!! Fuck me right in the ass!" (or any such similar command or request) to a specific person in such a manner as for them or others to seriously think you were asking them to have sex with you.
400W PSUs don't really draw 400W. That's just their max, a maximum that will NEVER be reached. In reality, a 20 machine lab, air conditioning and lighting costs including will only cost about $300-$400 per month, in the summer. $200 or so in the winter. That's about the same as the cost for the football stadium's lighting, assuming they use the lights once per month. The cost of lighting would be probably be the biggest surprise to most people.