Yep, even if those people agree to be "endangered", we can't anymore.
Couldn't have just put up a sign with a warning "Assholes smoking" (hey we all know what you think of us), couldn't just leave it up to the business owners, nope... had to ban it in the quest for the perfect society.
Congratulations on great law-making.
Of course, there are still places that say "fuck you" and choose to allow smoking, it's just illegal now so you can raid the place and lock up all us "illegal bastards" later.
Like I said before, all it will take is one sociable person with your same skillset to knock you off your high horse. They're out here.
Whether or not your company is smart enough to find them for the sanity of your co-workers, is really their problem. But I hope they do.
If they don't it's their (and your company's) loss.
You sound like just the kinda guy to stay at a small little company and be the big fish in the little pond. Enjoy that.
Or come play where the big pond is with a large team of admins, users, and product engineers. You'll be eaten alive and spat out into a corner to languish on some really dull project or product for the rest of your career, and the sociable people with your skillset will get cherry-picked for the new product and other interesting teams.
All that stuff has been easily learned by anyone with the ability to READ for a long time now. What's the big deal?
Now some lazy ass can sit on his couch and be entertained by the THOUGHT of actually hacking on something by some folks on the pretty flashy LCD panel across the room.
Wanna hack? Build a workbench, turn the TV off, and grab a good book.
Few people buy anything anyway. Seen our debt to income ratio lately?
Most people don't OWN their houses but say they do, even when they've got only 10% of their mortgage paid off.
Most people don't OWN their cars, and pay for loans on them for as long as 8 years now on a depreciating asset. Brilliant!
And most people don't even OWN their knowledge since they're in student load debt up to their eyeballs and don't realize that student loan debt (like IRS debt) can't be removed by a bankruptcy. It's your debt until you die.
Show me the titles to anything you say you OWN and I'll go with it.
But most people are too stupid to realize that financing something means they don't own it yet, and probably never will, because very often the very fact that they're financing means they're living too far above their means to ever pay back the debt anyway.
Henry Ford started it with the model-T, and it's been that way ever since. Debt is what we trade in, not currency. And we do it without even thinking about it.
So you can expand your question to include education, cars, and housing... while you're at it.
No, um... they do have more than that. They show you a license on the screen, you're intended to read (that's a contract, since you like legal terms) and you click "Accept" to load the OS.
Whatever they put in that contract, you accepted. Don't like it, they have wording in the contract as to how to send the OS back.
And those jobs let us pay other people to integrate this stuff called hardware and software into one working cohesive thing called a Mac, so we can get on with our days and do more useful and interesting shit than sit around in the latest flamewar in a group of developers of open-source desktop OSs that can't even properly auto-detect and load a graphics driver after 10 years of development.
OSS for a desktop OS is a giant circle-jerk that will never end. Move on and do something useful with your life. The "problem" of a working desktop was solved long ago, and OSS still has GNOME and KDE and can't make a fucking decision...
We were talking about OS's that actually load properly on their target hardware.
Oh fuck, sorry... I forgot... Ubuntu's target hardware is the same as MS's but it still doesn't fucking work right most of the time.
It's worth exactly what you paid for it.
News for "nerds" includes those of us tired of fucking with our OS's to get simple things like video cards to work properly, first try -- out of the box.
Some nerds use Windows. Some use Mac. Some use shit that regularly doesn't work, but the nerds using it tell us "but it gives you CHOICE!" Yeah, I don't want choice, I wanna pay $2000 and take the machine home and have its graphics card work when I boot it up.
Yeah, um... because Linux provides things like the phone call I got today from a friend trying to load CentOS on a bog-standard machine with an ATI video card -- that it didn't fucking work. As always.
And of course, that's ATI and NVIDIA's fault for not releasing open-source drivers, because they want their products to actually WORK on real OS's that they fully support.
It's soooooo much better to have a machine that has 10 different applications for IM'ing people when your video card, webcam, and all your other hardware don't work right on a regular basis.
Dumb-ass... listen. Linux has obtained less than 2% of the desktop space after ten years of telling everyone that it's better. If your neighbor bragged this much about so little success, you'd call him an asshole. And you'd be right.
Mac fans are often DISGRUNTLED LINUX USERS who found a Unix-based OS that... WORKS! Wow. Amazing.
Linux is not better at anything WORTHWHILE. The applications that are GREAT on Linux run just fine on other platforms too, and your argument being based on how "great" Linux is just sounds like so much hot air.
People send money to Cupertino because their shit works. Take Linux, rip out the shit that doesn't work, make it work properly and keep the source for the changes to yourself, and you too can make millions. I swear. Try it.
People aren't clamoring for a real working Linux because they know only the geek down the street ever got it running, and had to listen to him bitch for six months that he "almost has the buttons on the mouse working the way they should" and "finally got the graphics card to do 3d acceleration" and whatever other lovely anecdotes the loser had for them that week.
And they realized? Fuck.. that guy's stupid. I bought a computer that works over at the Apple store last week, and certainly never had to fuck with any of THAT shit!
Same with long-time Linux users who got tired of the same old shit... they walked into Apple, plunked down some money, and walked out with something that they could both use, and also had a shell and Unix under the hood. Then they started porting the useful bits off of Linux onto their WORKING computer.
Shit, they'll just change the distribution model and the license.
And as an Apple user also (along with every other OS that's common and a few that aren't), I have no problem with that.
These fucktards found a loophole (maybe) and Apple will close it.
They'll also ass rape them for legal fees to pay for their defense for a few years for being stupid enough to try to exploit the loophole, setting them up as yet another example of why you should just go build your own things and leave companies who make things their customer truly want -- alone.
They'll say... go away children, we have a business to run here and customers to support. Build your own fucking OS.
So they'll start handing you the contract at checkout and you can read it and hand the box back? Works for me.
If the "contract is hidden to me" is your excuse, I think you'll see there's a very nicely worded passage in there about how to refuse the contract and get your money back.
Oh lord... the famous "choice" line from Debian. The OS who claims to only put in the BEST software for a particular purpose, but then instead includes every possible shitty version of every possible application ever written for Linux so the user has "choice".
Read the founding ideals behind Ian's OS sometime there chief, and then start filing some RC bug reports to rip out some of those 40,000 packages of shit and get down to the things that WORK properly for the end-users.
Long time Debian fan here, but seriously -- the packages have become the Linux world's biggest mindfuck ever... "we only package the good stuff" isn't what Debian is anymore and hasn't been for a decade.
They fell off the horse of usability and quality a LONG time ago.
And Apple learned (or always knew) that selling only an OS without hardware and then twisting hardware manufacturer's arms to only work on their OS would be trouble and kept their products integrated. Smart.
Better end-result in the long run for the user too, who just wants the shit to work when they turn it on.
Best yet, they took all the best bits from OSS and integrated that into a cohesive working OS too, all legally.
It really must bother the F/OSS tards who spend days downloading proprietary video drivers every time they load their precious OS, so they can actually see something on the screen, to see Apple using their GOOD code so effectively and throwing the rest in the trash can, so their users stuff works that well.
Because you know, F/OSS is all about the "best user experience evaaaar!" If only you know how to compile kernels and find obscure binary bits from the hardware manufacturers and know how to install them, right from day one with your new OS. The real GNU-tards won't even give you a way to get those bits, they'll just scream at you that you're EEEEEVIL if you want your proprietary video card to work, so you can get something done with your computer. Or the nicer ones will say, "It'll work someday... someone out there is working on it... maybe."
"In other words, FOSS licenses deserve to be respected because they actually provide a benefit to both the licensor and the licensee. EULAs don't. Do you see the difference?"
Laws may only be respected if I want to. Contracts are null and void if I don't like them.
Yeah, that's mature.
Don't like the product or its licensing? Don't buy it.
"All ideas rightfully belong to the Public Domain. They are not property. They are not even slightly like property. The only reason copyright exists in the first place is as a bargain -- a social contract -- by which we lend ideas back from the Public Domain to their creators for what is supposed to be a short while, in hopes that we will get more ideas in the Public Domain later. Copyright (along with patents) is nothing more, and nothing less, than an investment in the Public Domain!"
That's not morality, that's socialism. Many of us do not agree with it. Our morality tells us that giving people jobs, letting them sell their products at a fair market price that MOST people will pay, and allowing them to sell and package that product as they see fit... is freedom.
If Apple wants to sell their OS only on Macs, that's the right of all of the individuals proud to call themselves Apple employees.
"What's immoral are all these corporations and cartels that are trying to take more than their fair share of the bargain, by asserting their "rights" (which are actually not rights at all, but rather temporary monopolies given as privilege at the whim of the government (which, in turn, is supposed to coincide with the whim of the People)) while simultaneously refusing to uphold their responsibilities (e.g. respect for Fair Use, allowing the work to enter the Public Domain, etc.) by sabotaging the works with DRM and EULAs and such!"
This "government" you speak of was duly elected by yourself, and also the people that work at Apple Computer. Don't like it, vote in Socialists.
Oh wait, you're probably already planning on voting for Obama. Okay. Fine. We'll see if he says Apple Computer, Inc. must give up all their rights to their workers work and place it all in the Public Domain. Sure. That's going to happen, freetard.
"My high-school Latin teacher had a saying: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is probably a duck." Similarly, if it looks like a sale and acts like a sale, then it is a fucking sale!"
Gee, I guess that's why he was teaching latin in a high school and not making money in a real business?
They'll fix the vagueness of the license in the next OS release, I'm sure. And I bet at least one lawyer has already lost his job writing Apple licenses for being a fucktard and writing that wording.
They will change it so that dumb-asses like these idiots selling these machines will understand the itty bitty simple words.
"Dear assholes, we make an integrated product line. We're coming after people who can't fucking figure that out."
In the meantime they'll wrap these guys up in very expensive litigation. They want a fight, they'll have it. They'll be bankrupt before Apple is.
Good show Apple. Keep working towards a computing experience that works for people, and fighting off these "I want a free OS" retards who can't even get down to ONE desktop that WORKS after ten years.
Those of us that want our shit to work when we turn it on in the morning, will keep paying for it. And they know it.
Gee, let's hope every company that tries to bundle hardware and software together in a WORKING package, dies because they have to choose to put the costs into one product or the other and pass them along.
Let's even post conjecture to online websites that maybe they'll unbundle everything and clusterfuck their product like the other non-bundled OS's are and eat the support costs for doing so.
Especially if they're making profit doing it! Punish the evil company making things that work! Hell yes.
"Apple's choice of business model is its problem, not ours!" Yeah, because we want to steal from them and they want to defend their work integrating a working OS into a hardware platform they control so end-users shit actually works... they're EVIL.
What a dumb-ass. Grow up. Yeah that's sarcasm.
Buy a mac if you want one. Steal from them, and expect them to get pissed. Don't bitch about it when they do.
They're adults, and you're children it would appear.
Yeah, because making a statement that says, "I want that thing your company makes but don't want to pay you for it at the price you sell it for, so I'll just find a loophole in the legal process to steal it!"... is the highly mature way to behave as an adult.
Hmm.. point by point. Okay, I can play that game too.
"My boss came up with the idea" Yeah, because changing out the development team behind everyone's backs makes for a happy workplace, and of course it was economically sound...? (You could answer that question if you were him and could see the real numbers on how much you cost versus the originally deployed solution, but it sure sounds to me like he just wanted yes-men around him, a MUCH more common reason for changing technologies in a company than anything based on business fact. As long as you and your new technology you originally claimed YOU came up with and "convinced" your company to use... when really HE did the heavy lifting... nice back-pedal there, BTW... cost no MORE than the original, I guess it was just a power grab by a VP. Big whoop. Glad you came out of it on the right side!)
"Never used raw Eclipse" - yep. So you have no idea if the open-source version has bugs, problems whatever. You're the expert! You bought it. (I'm making a dangerous assumption here, never heard of MyEclipse until your posting and I assume it's a commercial product. If it's just another lame ass fork of something that worked, well... that's stupid too. Fork! Fork! Fork!)
"I prefer open source" - didn't we just cover that? You're using a proprietary version of something open-source that someone's selling after they fixed the bugs, I think.
"...and it has seemed to make my developer life easier" - Yeah, open-source is great for that, no doubt about it. At the expense of usability for the users. Want your $500 video card to work? We're developers! We just patch our kernels! (Had a support call from a friend about this horse-shit in CentOS again today, have had the same call from friends who think they want to run Linux because it's "better" now every year since 1995. It's gettin' old. Linux needs to get it's graphical desktop shit together. But it's open-source! ANYONE can fix it! Yeah I know, and I'm not a graphics programmer, never will be, and neither will any of the people who just want to load the damn OS who call me wondering how to fucking get it to work. Oh wait, I forgot... it's NVIDIA and ATI's fault that open-source developers can't figure out how to sign NDA's or release binary bits of "proprietary" things to get a video card to work because the Sun might explode out of some hippie freedom-fighters ass who has the initials RMS, if they do. Why more distros haven't told the freetard to to fuck off and die so they can just have a working video card, so they can get important shit done like bitch about which of the 20 desktops to use... I don't know. Choice! Oh yeah, choice! I forgot. Having 20 shitty choices is always better than having ONE THING that works! Fuck.)
"You used to sell proprietary software but open source ate your company's lunch and you're bitter" - Wow, that's a stretch. Nope. I work for a company that builds telecommunications equipment with mostly closed-source software. They do have some things that run embedded Linux as the OS with all proprietary code running on top of it. The shit actually works too. Asterisk is a nice toy for small business, but at the carrier level, let's see it get SS7 live network certified or handle 100 inbound calls a second without trying hard, and handle more than 4000 ports in one box. It'll get there someday, by then no one will care. Because we'll have built something even bigger or better. You see, we've been doing it a long time and we sell the things for prices that will allow any carrier to charge TINY amounts of money per minute and still make serious cash money with it. Payoff is about 3 months and they amortize the things over 5-7 years. They *gasp* have to pay for a support contract and per-port licensing on the devices as long as they're in service, so we actually have a business model where they can make (a lot) of money with them, even after they pay us. OMG, closed-source software sux0rs and isn't l33t. Only open-source where you can't affo
So I called RedHat and complained that they didn't include proprietary CODECs needed to view most of the content in the InterWebs, and guess what....
They didn't care.
Think your own argument just got used against you there. 99% of people WANT to do things like watch YouTube... but RedHat's not interested in fixing their problem.
Reality check: RedHat gave up on the Desktop market years ago.
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Yep, even if those people agree to be "endangered", we can't anymore.
Couldn't have just put up a sign with a warning "Assholes smoking" (hey we all know what you think of us), couldn't just leave it up to the business owners, nope... had to ban it in the quest for the perfect society.
Congratulations on great law-making.
Of course, there are still places that say "fuck you" and choose to allow smoking, it's just illegal now so you can raid the place and lock up all us "illegal bastards" later.
Like I said before, all it will take is one sociable person with your same skillset to knock you off your high horse. They're out here.
Whether or not your company is smart enough to find them for the sanity of your co-workers, is really their problem. But I hope they do.
If they don't it's their (and your company's) loss.
You sound like just the kinda guy to stay at a small little company and be the big fish in the little pond. Enjoy that.
Or come play where the big pond is with a large team of admins, users, and product engineers. You'll be eaten alive and spat out into a corner to languish on some really dull project or product for the rest of your career, and the sociable people with your skillset will get cherry-picked for the new product and other interesting teams.
All that stuff has been easily learned by anyone with the ability to READ for a long time now. What's the big deal?
Now some lazy ass can sit on his couch and be entertained by the THOUGHT of actually hacking on something by some folks on the pretty flashy LCD panel across the room.
Wanna hack? Build a workbench, turn the TV off, and grab a good book.
Few people buy anything anyway. Seen our debt to income ratio lately?
Most people don't OWN their houses but say they do, even when they've got only 10% of their mortgage paid off.
Most people don't OWN their cars, and pay for loans on them for as long as 8 years now on a depreciating asset. Brilliant!
And most people don't even OWN their knowledge since they're in student load debt up to their eyeballs and don't realize that student loan debt (like IRS debt) can't be removed by a bankruptcy. It's your debt until you die.
Show me the titles to anything you say you OWN and I'll go with it.
But most people are too stupid to realize that financing something means they don't own it yet, and probably never will, because very often the very fact that they're financing means they're living too far above their means to ever pay back the debt anyway.
Henry Ford started it with the model-T, and it's been that way ever since. Debt is what we trade in, not currency. And we do it without even thinking about it.
So you can expand your question to include education, cars, and housing... while you're at it.
No, um... they do have more than that. They show you a license on the screen, you're intended to read (that's a contract, since you like legal terms) and you click "Accept" to load the OS.
Whatever they put in that contract, you accepted. Don't like it, they have wording in the contract as to how to send the OS back.
Right on.
And those jobs let us pay other people to integrate this stuff called hardware and software into one working cohesive thing called a Mac, so we can get on with our days and do more useful and interesting shit than sit around in the latest flamewar in a group of developers of open-source desktop OSs that can't even properly auto-detect and load a graphics driver after 10 years of development.
OSS for a desktop OS is a giant circle-jerk that will never end. Move on and do something useful with your life. The "problem" of a working desktop was solved long ago, and OSS still has GNOME and KDE and can't make a fucking decision...
We were talking about OS's that actually load properly on their target hardware.
Oh fuck, sorry... I forgot... Ubuntu's target hardware is the same as MS's but it still doesn't fucking work right most of the time.
It's worth exactly what you paid for it.
News for "nerds" includes those of us tired of fucking with our OS's to get simple things like video cards to work properly, first try -- out of the box.
Some nerds use Windows. Some use Mac. Some use shit that regularly doesn't work, but the nerds using it tell us "but it gives you CHOICE!" Yeah, I don't want choice, I wanna pay $2000 and take the machine home and have its graphics card work when I boot it up.
Yeah, um... because Linux provides things like the phone call I got today from a friend trying to load CentOS on a bog-standard machine with an ATI video card -- that it didn't fucking work. As always.
And of course, that's ATI and NVIDIA's fault for not releasing open-source drivers, because they want their products to actually WORK on real OS's that they fully support.
It's soooooo much better to have a machine that has 10 different applications for IM'ing people when your video card, webcam, and all your other hardware don't work right on a regular basis.
Dumb-ass... listen. Linux has obtained less than 2% of the desktop space after ten years of telling everyone that it's better. If your neighbor bragged this much about so little success, you'd call him an asshole. And you'd be right.
Mac fans are often DISGRUNTLED LINUX USERS who found a Unix-based OS that ... WORKS! Wow. Amazing.
Go read this guy LinuxHaters Blog and get a clue.
Linux is not better at anything WORTHWHILE. The applications that are GREAT on Linux run just fine on other platforms too, and your argument being based on how "great" Linux is just sounds like so much hot air.
People send money to Cupertino because their shit works. Take Linux, rip out the shit that doesn't work, make it work properly and keep the source for the changes to yourself, and you too can make millions. I swear. Try it.
People aren't clamoring for a real working Linux because they know only the geek down the street ever got it running, and had to listen to him bitch for six months that he "almost has the buttons on the mouse working the way they should" and "finally got the graphics card to do 3d acceleration" and whatever other lovely anecdotes the loser had for them that week.
And they realized? Fuck.. that guy's stupid. I bought a computer that works over at the Apple store last week, and certainly never had to fuck with any of THAT shit!
Same with long-time Linux users who got tired of the same old shit... they walked into Apple, plunked down some money, and walked out with something that they could both use, and also had a shell and Unix under the hood. Then they started porting the useful bits off of Linux onto their WORKING computer.
Go figure.
Umm, they didn't stop supporting the old versions. You didn't have to buy the upgrades.
Shit, they'll just change the distribution model and the license.
And as an Apple user also (along with every other OS that's common and a few that aren't), I have no problem with that.
These fucktards found a loophole (maybe) and Apple will close it.
They'll also ass rape them for legal fees to pay for their defense for a few years for being stupid enough to try to exploit the loophole, setting them up as yet another example of why you should just go build your own things and leave companies who make things their customer truly want -- alone.
They'll say... go away children, we have a business to run here and customers to support. Build your own fucking OS.
So they'll start handing you the contract at checkout and you can read it and hand the box back? Works for me.
If the "contract is hidden to me" is your excuse, I think you'll see there's a very nicely worded passage in there about how to refuse the contract and get your money back.
Oh lord... the famous "choice" line from Debian. The OS who claims to only put in the BEST software for a particular purpose, but then instead includes every possible shitty version of every possible application ever written for Linux so the user has "choice".
Read the founding ideals behind Ian's OS sometime there chief, and then start filing some RC bug reports to rip out some of those 40,000 packages of shit and get down to the things that WORK properly for the end-users.
Long time Debian fan here, but seriously -- the packages have become the Linux world's biggest mindfuck ever... "we only package the good stuff" isn't what Debian is anymore and hasn't been for a decade.
They fell off the horse of usability and quality a LONG time ago.
So, his question is still valid. Answer it.
Mods apparently don't like people asking real questions if the question might be bad for open-source.
And if you had the rest back, that would have been non-functional code too. That's what they removed and replaced with their own. ;-)
And Apple learned (or always knew) that selling only an OS without hardware and then twisting hardware manufacturer's arms to only work on their OS would be trouble and kept their products integrated. Smart.
Better end-result in the long run for the user too, who just wants the shit to work when they turn it on.
Best yet, they took all the best bits from OSS and integrated that into a cohesive working OS too, all legally.
It really must bother the F/OSS tards who spend days downloading proprietary video drivers every time they load their precious OS, so they can actually see something on the screen, to see Apple using their GOOD code so effectively and throwing the rest in the trash can, so their users stuff works that well.
Because you know, F/OSS is all about the "best user experience evaaaar!" If only you know how to compile kernels and find obscure binary bits from the hardware manufacturers and know how to install them, right from day one with your new OS. The real GNU-tards won't even give you a way to get those bits, they'll just scream at you that you're EEEEEVIL if you want your proprietary video card to work, so you can get something done with your computer. Or the nicer ones will say, "It'll work someday... someone out there is working on it... maybe."
"In other words, FOSS licenses deserve to be respected because they actually provide a benefit to both the licensor and the licensee. EULAs don't. Do you see the difference?"
Laws may only be respected if I want to. Contracts are null and void if I don't like them.
Yeah, that's mature.
Don't like the product or its licensing? Don't buy it.
"All ideas rightfully belong to the Public Domain. They are not property. They are not even slightly like property. The only reason copyright exists in the first place is as a bargain -- a social contract -- by which we lend ideas back from the Public Domain to their creators for what is supposed to be a short while, in hopes that we will get more ideas in the Public Domain later. Copyright (along with patents) is nothing more, and nothing less, than an investment in the Public Domain!"
That's not morality, that's socialism. Many of us do not agree with it. Our morality tells us that giving people jobs, letting them sell their products at a fair market price that MOST people will pay, and allowing them to sell and package that product as they see fit... is freedom.
If Apple wants to sell their OS only on Macs, that's the right of all of the individuals proud to call themselves Apple employees.
"What's immoral are all these corporations and cartels that are trying to take more than their fair share of the bargain, by asserting their "rights" (which are actually not rights at all, but rather temporary monopolies given as privilege at the whim of the government (which, in turn, is supposed to coincide with the whim of the People)) while simultaneously refusing to uphold their responsibilities (e.g. respect for Fair Use, allowing the work to enter the Public Domain, etc.) by sabotaging the works with DRM and EULAs and such!"
This "government" you speak of was duly elected by yourself, and also the people that work at Apple Computer. Don't like it, vote in Socialists.
Oh wait, you're probably already planning on voting for Obama. Okay. Fine. We'll see if he says Apple Computer, Inc. must give up all their rights to their workers work and place it all in the Public Domain. Sure. That's going to happen, freetard.
"My high-school Latin teacher had a saying: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is probably a duck." Similarly, if it looks like a sale and acts like a sale, then it is a fucking sale!"
Gee, I guess that's why he was teaching latin in a high school and not making money in a real business?
They'll fix the vagueness of the license in the next OS release, I'm sure. And I bet at least one lawyer has already lost his job writing Apple licenses for being a fucktard and writing that wording.
They will change it so that dumb-asses like these idiots selling these machines will understand the itty bitty simple words.
"Dear assholes, we make an integrated product line. We're coming after people who can't fucking figure that out."
In the meantime they'll wrap these guys up in very expensive litigation. They want a fight, they'll have it. They'll be bankrupt before Apple is.
Good show Apple. Keep working towards a computing experience that works for people, and fighting off these "I want a free OS" retards who can't even get down to ONE desktop that WORKS after ten years.
Those of us that want our shit to work when we turn it on in the morning, will keep paying for it. And they know it.
Gee, let's hope every company that tries to bundle hardware and software together in a WORKING package, dies because they have to choose to put the costs into one product or the other and pass them along.
Let's even post conjecture to online websites that maybe they'll unbundle everything and clusterfuck their product like the other non-bundled OS's are and eat the support costs for doing so.
Especially if they're making profit doing it! Punish the evil company making things that work! Hell yes.
That's the mature, intelligent consumer for you.
"Apple's choice of business model is its problem, not ours!" Yeah, because we want to steal from them and they want to defend their work integrating a working OS into a hardware platform they control so end-users shit actually works... they're EVIL.
What a dumb-ass. Grow up. Yeah that's sarcasm.
Buy a mac if you want one. Steal from them, and expect them to get pissed. Don't bitch about it when they do.
They're adults, and you're children it would appear.
Yeah, because making a statement that says, "I want that thing your company makes but don't want to pay you for it at the price you sell it for, so I'll just find a loophole in the legal process to steal it!"... is the highly mature way to behave as an adult.
Hmm.. point by point. Okay, I can play that game too.
"My boss came up with the idea" Yeah, because changing out the development team behind everyone's backs makes for a happy workplace, and of course it was economically sound...? (You could answer that question if you were him and could see the real numbers on how much you cost versus the originally deployed solution, but it sure sounds to me like he just wanted yes-men around him, a MUCH more common reason for changing technologies in a company than anything based on business fact. As long as you and your new technology you originally claimed YOU came up with and "convinced" your company to use... when really HE did the heavy lifting... nice back-pedal there, BTW... cost no MORE than the original, I guess it was just a power grab by a VP. Big whoop. Glad you came out of it on the right side!)
"Never used raw Eclipse" - yep. So you have no idea if the open-source version has bugs, problems whatever. You're the expert! You bought it. (I'm making a dangerous assumption here, never heard of MyEclipse until your posting and I assume it's a commercial product. If it's just another lame ass fork of something that worked, well... that's stupid too. Fork! Fork! Fork!)
"I prefer open source" - didn't we just cover that? You're using a proprietary version of something open-source that someone's selling after they fixed the bugs, I think.
"...and it has seemed to make my developer life easier" - Yeah, open-source is great for that, no doubt about it. At the expense of usability for the users. Want your $500 video card to work? We're developers! We just patch our kernels! (Had a support call from a friend about this horse-shit in CentOS again today, have had the same call from friends who think they want to run Linux because it's "better" now every year since 1995. It's gettin' old. Linux needs to get it's graphical desktop shit together. But it's open-source! ANYONE can fix it! Yeah I know, and I'm not a graphics programmer, never will be, and neither will any of the people who just want to load the damn OS who call me wondering how to fucking get it to work. Oh wait, I forgot... it's NVIDIA and ATI's fault that open-source developers can't figure out how to sign NDA's or release binary bits of "proprietary" things to get a video card to work because the Sun might explode out of some hippie freedom-fighters ass who has the initials RMS, if they do. Why more distros haven't told the freetard to to fuck off and die so they can just have a working video card, so they can get important shit done like bitch about which of the 20 desktops to use... I don't know. Choice! Oh yeah, choice! I forgot. Having 20 shitty choices is always better than having ONE THING that works! Fuck.)
"You used to sell proprietary software but open source ate your company's lunch and you're bitter" - Wow, that's a stretch. Nope. I work for a company that builds telecommunications equipment with mostly closed-source software. They do have some things that run embedded Linux as the OS with all proprietary code running on top of it. The shit actually works too. Asterisk is a nice toy for small business, but at the carrier level, let's see it get SS7 live network certified or handle 100 inbound calls a second without trying hard, and handle more than 4000 ports in one box. It'll get there someday, by then no one will care. Because we'll have built something even bigger or better. You see, we've been doing it a long time and we sell the things for prices that will allow any carrier to charge TINY amounts of money per minute and still make serious cash money with it. Payoff is about 3 months and they amortize the things over 5-7 years. They *gasp* have to pay for a support contract and per-port licensing on the devices as long as they're in service, so we actually have a business model where they can make (a lot) of money with them, even after they pay us. OMG, closed-source software sux0rs and isn't l33t. Only open-source where you can't affo
So I called RedHat and complained that they didn't include proprietary CODECs needed to view most of the content in the InterWebs, and guess what....
They didn't care.
Think your own argument just got used against you there. 99% of people WANT to do things like watch YouTube... but RedHat's not interested in fixing their problem.
Reality check: RedHat gave up on the Desktop market years ago.
What you call "office politics" is just normal human interaction.
The fact that you're not interested in it is a pretty good indication that you're a willful misanthrope in your workplace.
That isn't considered appropriate civilized behavior by most folks.
Sad, maybe even shameful too. The sysadmin role would truly be better off without you.