You make up a lot of shit. I said that public smoking in places where the OWNER, the PATRONS, and the STAFF all agree -- should not be BANNED by LAW.
Read the words typed, not your own agenda into it.
Your agenda is a ban on all public smoking? Why? Do you feel that freedom is not worth defending for all?
I never said I want non-smokers exposed to smokers. Please re-read and explain why LAWS banning smoking amongst people who are WILLING to smoke and/or be exposed to second-hand-smoke, are appropriate here in the United States.
Charitable organizations mainly exist of people with over-inflated egos. Whether those egos are used for good or evil purposes (as determined by the majority) is often the limus test for whether something is a charity or organized crime.
The wind always blows out of the West in NYC, huh?
PREVAILING WIND yes, ALL WIND, no.
What the hell does your comment have to do with the comment anyway? My point was, the northeast isn't exactly all roses and pansies when it comes to cleanliness.
Employees ARE free to leave. They never had to work there in the first place.
Putting the safety of the minority wait staff over the freedoms of those wait staff who will take the risk for greater reward, owners, and patrons -- is rediculous law-based babysitting.
Don't want second hand smoke? Don't apply to work there.
No one required the wait staff to apply to work there. They could choose the places that have smoking bans or simply not work.
Your law puts the needs of the few ahead of the freedoms of many, including those wait staff, owners, and patrons -- who will gladly take the risks of being in a smoky bar.
Wrong. Whether or not the RF radiation is ionizing (causes heat) and then how much heating at a specific power -- is the determining factor for safety.
But with that aside, you missed the point. While various "standards" exist that have been changed over the years, the fact remains that there aren't any AT&T Long Lines or MCI employees from the 80's, or modern cell site techs showing any statistically significant signs of having higher cancer, illness or ANYTHING rates above the standard population... unless you count falling off the tower... then it's the most dangerous occupation in the U.S.
Yes the standard says there's an increased risk of the unknown at 0.25W @ 800 MHz. But it doesn't say what the risk is, nor tie it to any known real-world data.
What does the long term market cycle (they go up, they go down) have to do with the freedom to do whatever you can afford to do?
Every economy has had recession and rebounds. What does that have to do with whether or not the majority and minority agree on the things that should be done?
Just because all antennas don't exhibit the SAME gain in every direction, different antenna do exhibit MORE gain than others in all directions desired for a particular signal.
(Or more simply, a bigger antenna is often higher gain in almost all directions than a smaller one. By definition the RF power applied is always the same, and there are bigger nulls in certain directions in higher gain antennas, but those nulls can be limited to directions that aren't in use.)
Thus, a "high gain" antenna that puts most of it's energy on the horizon, versus straight up (there aren't any cell towers in the sky), versus a low gain more omnidirectional antenna... really does matter.
ROFLMAO... you're using (ANY) modern operating systems and thinking things are "done right"? That's awesome.
Check out the source code of whatever your OS of choice is sometime if you "deeply dislike incompetence".
The reality is... all those people you "can't tolerate" are there for the same reason you are. To make money. If you work with them on things, they might actually teach you somewhere YOU'RE incompetent.
They might start with "this person has no interest in other human beings beyond their ability to pay him, therefore he's socially incompetent."
Just think, someday you might have a boss that hate incompetence as much as you do, but his priority include having a team that can work together. Wonder if you'll cope with it or just leave?
Ahh so you're just collecting some second-hand smoke data you're not planning on USING for anything then, like namby-pamby parental laws for adults or anything.
"Vote Libertarian. The freedoms you save may be your own."
I want the freedom to have a government that taxes me and uses it for things like roads and schools.
Oh, you don't want me to have those freedoms? Go away then...
As far as your job rotation idea -- it's actually a good one. Required time in mentored positions (journeyman if you want to use union-speak) and some structure around how IT people learn their knowledge and some real honest skills tests required by companies (or by law) as people work their way into more important roles wouldn't be bad either.
Aww, but why would we do that? That would make us all professionals like every other professional occupation on the planet. Imagine if you could be sued for being negligent when writing important banking or security code... because you didn't follow "building codes" for software.
Most real businesspeople don't give a fuck if it's free as in speech, free as in beer, or free as in "rainbows will fly out of my ass freely"... nowadays, they FINALLY want software to WORK.
No more lame-ass programming, no more dicking around in your basement to create shitty applications -- companies want to see whatever resource they spend on something (time, money) come back in spades. Return-on-investment.
Learn it, love it. It's the new "in" thing. "Damn, these expensive computers and data centers we built when capital was flowing freely cost us more to operate than they make/save us! Dump 'em or find something that works."
Yeah we really hate having to call a vendor who needs their product to work in order to survive and ask them for a fix, when some guy here can muck around in the code and fix it ourselves.
Both ways suck. Would be better if the bugs simply weren't there in the first place, now wouldn't it?
"The domain cruisecontrol.net is for sale. To purchase, call BuyDomains.com at 781-839-7903 or 866-866-2700."
Yeah, like open-source has produced better products that have no "mediocrity" in them... no bugs, all the end-users are happy with the Linux Desktop because it's better than Microsoft or Apple for their needs, and everything's roses coming out of my ass.
Mediocrity will remain. There is this thing called a bell curve, and only a few programmers are in the small far-right portion of it.
The rest crank out crap, year after year after year. Don't believe me? Take a job in senior technical support for 15 years. I have.
I will never want for work. Programmers just aren't that bright.
Plumbers and electricians make as much as IT workers, and always have. IT just likes to think we have "important" jobs.
Ask a master electrician in the local IBEW union what they make and see how much they work and how hard it is. Then come back and tell me that complex programming or system administration is a good job choice.
The reality is, they are good jobs... but they're not any better than the guy next door with his own bathroom remodeling business.
I convinced my employer at great expense (people time, downtime) to change technologies without a shred of evidence it would actually lower the number or amount of bugs our developers create daily. Activity for activity's sake.
I would run the open version of Eclipse but it sucks, so I buy one because it actually works correctly more often than not.
I then claim my experience leads me to believe open source is better than closed. (Huh? Why put the story in there about paying for Eclipse then?)
Proprietary software is supported by people who have to make it a success or they don't get paid and can't eat. Open source is supported by some guy if he has time from his basement. This is better.
I had a really dumb question about JBoss because I don't really understand it (even though all my open-source advocates and myself will tell you it's great... the source is right there! You can fix any problem yourself! But I'm too lazy to read source.) So I posted about it, and some guy decided he had enough time to type up the answer to my dumb problem.
Meanwhile I compare this to some "forums" about the other software, and never bothered to call the company for help.
JBoss and Hibernate are still buggy pieces of shit, but they're popular so we can all help each other with it and act like it's better than what we had before.
Yeah, that's useful. Great. Just what end-users want, crappy code that still doesn't run right but now you can run it inside a different interpreter. Wheee.
Or they could do like most of the open-source world when the going gets tough -- give up, fork or start a whole new app that's just as buggy, and continue on at the same crappy quality level forever.
And there are thousands of people who work in RF fields at cell phone frequencies that are thousands of times more powerful, and have since the 1960s and 70's. (Cell site techs being part of that group.)
And millions of regular cordless phones operating at similar power levels as cell phones on bands similar to cell phones, held up to millions of heads for at least three decades.
But yeah... the RF emitted from the cell phone is somehow more "dangerous". Sure.
Gee, you'd think that the guys that WORK at the cell sites would have a statistically much higher rate of cancer and it would be REALLY obvious if these frequencies were truly dangerous.
Transmitters at 800 MHz and above have been in widespread use at MUCH higher power levels than a cellular phone since the 1960's.
Haven't seen any AT&T Long Lines guys growing any new body parts in retirement yet.
Not to mention the abundance of regular home cordless phones at 900 MHz, 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz that the chit-chatters are on for hours and hours on end...
Or the 2.4 GHz transmitter sitting in the LAPS of half the people posting that thing cell phone transmitters are "dangerous"... (WiFi).
People are stupid. There's NO evidence that cell phone frequencies are harmful at the power levels cell phones are regulated at.
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You make up a lot of shit. I said that public smoking in places where the OWNER, the PATRONS, and the STAFF all agree -- should not be BANNED by LAW.
Read the words typed, not your own agenda into it.
Your agenda is a ban on all public smoking? Why? Do you feel that freedom is not worth defending for all?
I never said I want non-smokers exposed to smokers. Please re-read and explain why LAWS banning smoking amongst people who are WILLING to smoke and/or be exposed to second-hand-smoke, are appropriate here in the United States.
Hint: They're not.
Charitable organizations mainly exist of people with over-inflated egos. Whether those egos are used for good or evil purposes (as determined by the majority) is often the limus test for whether something is a charity or organized crime.
I only have a party on paper so I can vote against any twit who's actions are so bad they should be removed in a primary election.
Otherwise, 100% agreed with your comments. Look for integrity in actions, and vote against the rest!
Well I had to come from the airport to Southfield. Didn't see anything in-between worth seeing either.
The wind always blows out of the West in NYC, huh?
PREVAILING WIND yes, ALL WIND, no.
What the hell does your comment have to do with the comment anyway? My point was, the northeast isn't exactly all roses and pansies when it comes to cleanliness.
Have you been to Newark?
Employees ARE free to leave. They never had to work there in the first place.
Putting the safety of the minority wait staff over the freedoms of those wait staff who will take the risk for greater reward, owners, and patrons -- is rediculous law-based babysitting.
Don't want second hand smoke? Don't apply to work there.
No one required the wait staff to apply to work there. They could choose the places that have smoking bans or simply not work.
Your law puts the needs of the few ahead of the freedoms of many, including those wait staff, owners, and patrons -- who will gladly take the risks of being in a smoky bar.
Wrong. Whether or not the RF radiation is ionizing (causes heat) and then how much heating at a specific power -- is the determining factor for safety.
But with that aside, you missed the point. While various "standards" exist that have been changed over the years, the fact remains that there aren't any AT&T Long Lines or MCI employees from the 80's, or modern cell site techs showing any statistically significant signs of having higher cancer, illness or ANYTHING rates above the standard population... unless you count falling off the tower... then it's the most dangerous occupation in the U.S.
Yes the standard says there's an increased risk of the unknown at 0.25W @ 800 MHz. But it doesn't say what the risk is, nor tie it to any known real-world data.
What does the long term market cycle (they go up, they go down) have to do with the freedom to do whatever you can afford to do?
Every economy has had recession and rebounds. What does that have to do with whether or not the majority and minority agree on the things that should be done?
Sorry, wrong.
Just because all antennas don't exhibit the SAME gain in every direction, different antenna do exhibit MORE gain than others in all directions desired for a particular signal.
(Or more simply, a bigger antenna is often higher gain in almost all directions than a smaller one. By definition the RF power applied is always the same, and there are bigger nulls in certain directions in higher gain antennas, but those nulls can be limited to directions that aren't in use.)
Thus, a "high gain" antenna that puts most of it's energy on the horizon, versus straight up (there aren't any cell towers in the sky), versus a low gain more omnidirectional antenna... really does matter.
ROFLMAO... you're using (ANY) modern operating systems and thinking things are "done right"? That's awesome.
Check out the source code of whatever your OS of choice is sometime if you "deeply dislike incompetence".
The reality is... all those people you "can't tolerate" are there for the same reason you are. To make money. If you work with them on things, they might actually teach you somewhere YOU'RE incompetent.
They might start with "this person has no interest in other human beings beyond their ability to pay him, therefore he's socially incompetent."
Just think, someday you might have a boss that hate incompetence as much as you do, but his priority include having a team that can work together. Wonder if you'll cope with it or just leave?
Ahh so you're just collecting some second-hand smoke data you're not planning on USING for anything then, like namby-pamby parental laws for adults or anything.
Good. Glad to hear it.
"Vote Libertarian. The freedoms you save may be your own."
I want the freedom to have a government that taxes me and uses it for things like roads and schools.
Oh, you don't want me to have those freedoms? Go away then...
As far as your job rotation idea -- it's actually a good one. Required time in mentored positions (journeyman if you want to use union-speak) and some structure around how IT people learn their knowledge and some real honest skills tests required by companies (or by law) as people work their way into more important roles wouldn't be bad either.
Aww, but why would we do that? That would make us all professionals like every other professional occupation on the planet. Imagine if you could be sued for being negligent when writing important banking or security code... because you didn't follow "building codes" for software.
Sure would be interesting, wouldn't it?
Pretty typical of open-source applications, isn't it?
But it can do X, Y, Z, and the rest of the alphabet!
Yeah, but does it do any of them WELL?
Nah... not really. But you can pay for XYZ company's version they forked and worked hard on, and it does.
Most real businesspeople don't give a fuck if it's free as in speech, free as in beer, or free as in "rainbows will fly out of my ass freely"... nowadays, they FINALLY want software to WORK.
No more lame-ass programming, no more dicking around in your basement to create shitty applications -- companies want to see whatever resource they spend on something (time, money) come back in spades. Return-on-investment.
Learn it, love it. It's the new "in" thing. "Damn, these expensive computers and data centers we built when capital was flowing freely cost us more to operate than they make/save us! Dump 'em or find something that works."
Yeah we really hate having to call a vendor who needs their product to work in order to survive and ask them for a fix, when some guy here can muck around in the code and fix it ourselves.
Both ways suck. Would be better if the bugs simply weren't there in the first place, now wouldn't it?
"The domain cruisecontrol.net is for sale. To purchase, call BuyDomains.com at 781-839-7903 or 866-866-2700."
Yeah there's never been any crappy Java code on the DailyWTF.
Now that Java is open-source it makes rainbows shoot out of my ass, and my poop smell minty fresh.
Yeah, like open-source has produced better products that have no "mediocrity" in them... no bugs, all the end-users are happy with the Linux Desktop because it's better than Microsoft or Apple for their needs, and everything's roses coming out of my ass.
Mediocrity will remain. There is this thing called a bell curve, and only a few programmers are in the small far-right portion of it.
The rest crank out crap, year after year after year. Don't believe me? Take a job in senior technical support for 15 years. I have.
I will never want for work. Programmers just aren't that bright.
Plumbers and electricians make as much as IT workers, and always have. IT just likes to think we have "important" jobs.
Ask a master electrician in the local IBEW union what they make and see how much they work and how hard it is. Then come back and tell me that complex programming or system administration is a good job choice.
The reality is, they are good jobs... but they're not any better than the guy next door with his own bathroom remodeling business.
Ah yes, web browsers still suck as user interfaces and always have.
Now companies want people that can beat them into submission since they bought the bullshit that the web was the way to distribute applications.
Let's translate.
I convinced my employer at great expense (people time, downtime) to change technologies without a shred of evidence it would actually lower the number or amount of bugs our developers create daily. Activity for activity's sake.
I would run the open version of Eclipse but it sucks, so I buy one because it actually works correctly more often than not.
I then claim my experience leads me to believe open source is better than closed. (Huh? Why put the story in there about paying for Eclipse then?)
Proprietary software is supported by people who have to make it a success or they don't get paid and can't eat. Open source is supported by some guy if he has time from his basement. This is better.
I had a really dumb question about JBoss because I don't really understand it (even though all my open-source advocates and myself will tell you it's great... the source is right there! You can fix any problem yourself! But I'm too lazy to read source.) So I posted about it, and some guy decided he had enough time to type up the answer to my dumb problem.
Meanwhile I compare this to some "forums" about the other software, and never bothered to call the company for help.
JBoss and Hibernate are still buggy pieces of shit, but they're popular so we can all help each other with it and act like it's better than what we had before.
[That about cover it?]
Yeah, that's useful. Great. Just what end-users want, crappy code that still doesn't run right but now you can run it inside a different interpreter. Wheee.
Or they could do like most of the open-source world when the going gets tough -- give up, fork or start a whole new app that's just as buggy, and continue on at the same crappy quality level forever.
And there are thousands of people who work in RF fields at cell phone frequencies that are thousands of times more powerful, and have since the 1960s and 70's. (Cell site techs being part of that group.)
And millions of regular cordless phones operating at similar power levels as cell phones on bands similar to cell phones, held up to millions of heads for at least three decades.
But yeah... the RF emitted from the cell phone is somehow more "dangerous". Sure.
Hello?
Gee, you'd think that the guys that WORK at the cell sites would have a statistically much higher rate of cancer and it would be REALLY obvious if these frequencies were truly dangerous.
Transmitters at 800 MHz and above have been in widespread use at MUCH higher power levels than a cellular phone since the 1960's.
Haven't seen any AT&T Long Lines guys growing any new body parts in retirement yet.
Not to mention the abundance of regular home cordless phones at 900 MHz, 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz that the chit-chatters are on for hours and hours on end...
Or the 2.4 GHz transmitter sitting in the LAPS of half the people posting that thing cell phone transmitters are "dangerous"... (WiFi).
People are stupid. There's NO evidence that cell phone frequencies are harmful at the power levels cell phones are regulated at.