boycotting won't change the policy of handing customer data over to the DEA. on amtrak (or your city bus, or whatever) there is always a law/rule/regulation that applies, that says that carrying illegal drugs (and lots of other things) is not allowed; you generally are giving implied consent to search by getting on the train. personally, I don't think it's anybody's business if I take amtrak to get somewhere, including the DEA's. but such a situation isn't at all new, unfortunate as it is.
Am I Hot Or Not is a site devoted to the facile and superficial estimation of the opposite sex
well, no shit, sherlock.
your post indicates to me that you are a narrow minded christian snob who believes that anything even the slightest bit apart from what *you* believe is automatically wrong. you quote *one* line from the bible, and consider yourself oh-so-righteous becaused you did. well, you might find this uncomfortable, but you're a goob and so is whoever modded you up. if you can honestly say that you've never looked at a member of the opposite sex and made a judgement on pretty/not pretty, cute/not cute, or whatever, then you're a liar too.
no apologies for ranting, people like you piss me off to no end. who the hell are you to tell me what's right and wrong?
RH 6.0 included a driver for my Canon BJC-210 bubblejet printer (thx to printtool). that might seem like a small thing to everyone else, but to me it means I don't need a windows machine to handle my "designed for windows" printer. and I also don't need to pay for a licensed copy of windows just to handle print spooling. add everything else I can do with my RH GNU/Linux machine, and I'm definitely a few bucks ahead.
the media (you know, time, newsweek, cnn, etc) certainly will not be there with cameras. not saying you shouldn't go protest; but the battle is in the courtroom, and at the end of it all, that's going to decide how things are. the media is owned and controlled by the same people who want linking to something like decss illegal. you're not going to have cnn interviewing anyone wearing a decss tshirt to get an opinion. being there standing silent is noble, but it's not going to change or affect the decision.
that being said, I have my decss shirt and my printed copy of decss, and I make it a point to explain why I'm wearing code every chance I get. the time for silence is long since past; silence is how we got here in the first place.
wish you luck finding someone then... if you have a degree and 5 years industry experience by the time you're 24, that means someone was willing to hire you without a degree or experience when you were 19.
but those young people are all spoiled punks anyway, so you wouldn't hire them in the first place...
I spent four years on active duty with the Air Force, during which I was a Ground Radio Repairman (translated, I did lots of module level swapping to make radio stuff work). During that time, I spent a year in Turkey and several months in the desert. The majority of the training I got was electronics theory and troubleshooting skills, especially on analog systems (the computer technology got sent away to be fixed by someone else).
The main benefits I got out of military service came after I was a civilian again... I recieve VA medical care, my house was purchased with a VA loan, I'm finishing school with the help of the GI Bill. Many of the intangible things I learned while wearing a uniform have come in really handy in real life.
since you have some specialized education already, you might consider guard/reserve; that would (eventually) give you the benefits that will help you later on, while still letting you do what you really want as a civilian. there's no guarantee that you'll end up in a military job that translates to be what you're looking for, even if that's what the job description says. (if you're near a guard/reserve unit, see if a recruiter will let you visit during a drill weekend, and talk to the people who do whatever job specialty you're looking into.)
you can be a military techie; but just keep in mind that it might not be the kind of techie that you'll be as a civilian.
if someone drops 2 ounces of pot in your car, and you get pulled over after dropping them off at the 7-11, who gets busted? *you*. it's *your* car, and *you're* the only one in it.
same thing happens if the local police department finds 30gig of child porn/mp3's/warez on your windows share, that "someone else put there". you're busted.
my hacker side says yes, it would be great to take all those bits of unused space on people's drives and put it to good use. but I'm not going to jail for someone else's files.
you can't have it both ways, folks. we bitch about having to make adjustments to sites because they have to be viewable by IE3, 4,5, NS 3,4, 6, Mozilla, AOL, Opera, Lynx...etc. we say "gee, wouldn't it be cool if everyone followed standards so we wouldn't have to do this?" and *at the same time* complain because Netscape's browser "lost the war", and bitch about how Microsoft is evil because IE is used by more people than netscape. all right, that's an oversimplification, but still...
is one or more digiboards, which are multiport serial adapters. see http://www.digi.com. at the last school I attended, we used digiboards to put together a modem bank using a P100, 2 digiboards, and 16 usr 56k external modems. worked like a *charm*, although it took some handwringing to get the linux (slackware) side of things right.
this is a little off topic for what you asked, but it might help anyway...
couldn't you just set up an old 486 or early pentium system (or a single powerpc mac running linux) and let the macs telnet to that? seems like that would be easier to keep track of than rebooting a lab full of machines whenever you want to do linux stuff. you really only need a shell, after all.;)
tubes are great... at a local establishment in Milwaukee, WI, they're used to make martinis "shaken not stirred", by running the shaker bottle through a modified bank tube that runs through the bar.
makes you wonder if microsoft doesn't like the idea that the bulletins appear in the archives of the bugtraq mailing list, which they don't have control over.
Gaming has evolved far beyond play. Arguably the most revolutionary cultural force in the world right now
Gaming may be a part of the changes in culture that are occuring because of increases in computing power. To say, however, that there is no more important cultural force in the entire world is a very broad statement. Even in the United States, not every child has a computer, and certainly every child does not play computer games. Some children (including teenagers) play soccer, some concentrate on studies, others play musical instruments. Many children in less developed countries are so busy worrying about surviving that they have no idea what computer games are.
I will agree that there are major cultural changes taking place in the world. However, you seem to be excluding a large portion of the culture on this planet in forming your opinions.
Visual C++ and the related teaching material is all based on the Windows API, and algorithms are treated as secondary as best.
I know someone that makes a living as a carpenter. He relies on his tools, since without them he cannot do his work. Some things make his work easier, such as power tools. If I were to take his tools, and try to build something, the result would be inferior to whatever he would build. He doesn't think about how to use a hammer, he thinks about making sure the wall is going to stay upright.
The point: the Windows API is a tool, just the same as libraries are a tool, and Visual C++ is a tool. But unless you know what to do with those tools, and why you use a certain size nail instead of another size nail to put together a wall, you don't have much. A Craftsman hammer will not help you get the wall straight (although it will help drive the nails).
The algorithms are more important than the API, the language, and the platform. Whatever ultimately replaces the Windows API will still be built on Knuth.
Frankly, I see it as a slap in the face to Mozilla, since all their volunteered hard work has created a product that will line Netscape's pockets
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Volunteering means you're not doing whatever you're doing for the money. I don't remember Netscape, AOL, or anyone else saying anything about paying anyone other than employees.
Of course there will be many variations on applications, and that's all right. Imagine what the world would be like if someone had decided that Hamlet was the perfect tragedy, and left it at that.
If you're secure, then a portscan won't make a difference to you; the scan will be detected, the packets will be dropped, and life will go on. A *single, one pass* scan isn't abuse.
Go back ten years, and you'll hear the same discussion about wardialing. If, in the process of calling all the numbers in an exchange, I happen to hit your phone number, the worst that will happen is that you'll answer and I'll hang up. If someone called my phone company because I called them *once*, should my phone line be disconnected?
"Intent!" someone screams from the back..."You're going to h4x0r me!" Maybe, maybe not. But if your machines are secured, why are you so worried?
Today's h4x0rs are tomorrow's network engineers who have been playing with the internet their entire lives...
Part of the issue with Napster is that it's extremely easy and efficient to locate specific files and download them. If you want a song, you enter the title and artist, and if it's available, you click download.
The tools you mentioned can do the job, yes, but using them is still more complicated and takes more time/effort than Napster.
I'll take one of the tools, email, as an example. If I want to download all of a particular artist's tracks via email, I have to:
find other people who have those tracks in their library and request them
wait for them to get the request, and send the files to me
wait for 1 to n number of emails, each with a 3-5mb attachment to arrive at my mail server (or one big honkin' email, which might not be accepted by my mail server)
wait some more while my mail client downloads those attached files
That ease of use and deadly efficiency (compared to email, etc) is what makes things like Napster so different.
I make it a point to wear it in public...and every once in a while, someone says "hey...what's DVD/CCA and why are you against it?" once they see the front. It's a perfect time to explain what's going on with the trial, and why it's a problem. Most people are curious enough to listen for a few minutes.
I know it's a small thing...but if a couple of people think about it when they're at the store looking at DVD's to buy, then maybe it'll help.
Ya gotta do what you can.
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The mp3's being swapped are not the issue. Napster is not going to make money letting me download Motley Crue tracks.
Napster is going to make money by selling/licensing the technology on which the clients, servers, and file transfers are based.
I was gonna go on a privacy rant, and decided to take a step back for a minute.
Regardless of what is "right"...bots, agents, spiders, whatever you wanna call them, are now a fact of life. They exist, more are being written, and it's going to continue.
The rest of the world doesn't care if you (we) think that these bots are rude or going against the rules. Someone has obviously found a way to make money, and they're going after it.
You can either take steps to protect yourself (if you feel you are threatened), or let the agent take what it wants and move along. Dealing with this sort of thing is now a fact of life online.
(Besides, how is this so different than running Gamespy or theclq.com against quake servers?)
Amen. About 92-93 timeframe, I was still in school, and the CS department was getting tired of the donated AT&T 3B2's they were using. Someone decided to buy three new Pentium I machines, with SCO. As you said, no C compiler...which pretty much made those new machines useless to a bunch of CS majors. Those machines ran Slackware as soon as we got our hands on it...
The coolest part was when a professor needed FORTRAN for a research project, and was having trouble getting time on a mainframe. Turned out GNU Fortran was on the Slackware distro, and he was able to complete his project on one of our Linux boxes. (He didn't need speed, he just needed FORTRAN.)
SCO reminds me of Microsoft...lots of money for the OS, then lots more money for development tools so you can actually build stuff. Then even more money for documentation and licensing. Blech.
(I know, I'm preaching to the choir...but SCO's lack of included tools is what got me into Linux in the first place.)
Ok, let's see. Bad video games have to be 10 feet from the good ones, behind a black (we would assume) curtain, and (we would assume again) an employee of the arcade would have to have some way to make sure no one sneaks behind the curtain.
Walk into an arcade (or better yet, local pizza joint), take 10 steps from any game, and imagine where the curtain would be. Then imagine what would need to be done to make sure an employee had the opportunity, at all times, to check ID before allowing someone inside the curtains.
Now, those games that are on the "bad" list are still legal, and you can still get a license for them. But you have to spend extra money to rearrange your arcade, put up curtains, possibly have another person on staff just to watch those machines...which won't make as much money if no one knows they're there, because they can't see them...
Yeah, those machines are still legal. But it quickly becomes so uneconomical to have them, that they disappear.
Of course, the Mayor's office didn't ban them. This is the land of the free, remember? They just "restricted" them.
That's why this is something to worry about. Restrictions that become so common that they are accepted get worse.
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boycotting won't change the policy of handing customer data over to the DEA. on amtrak (or your city bus, or whatever) there is always a law/rule/regulation that applies, that says that carrying illegal drugs (and lots of other things) is not allowed; you generally are giving implied consent to search by getting on the train. personally, I don't think it's anybody's business if I take amtrak to get somewhere, including the DEA's. but such a situation isn't at all new, unfortunate as it is.
Am I Hot Or Not is a site devoted to the facile and superficial estimation of the opposite sex
well, no shit, sherlock.
your post indicates to me that you are a narrow minded christian snob who believes that anything even the slightest bit apart from what *you* believe is automatically wrong. you quote *one* line from the bible, and consider yourself oh-so-righteous becaused you did. well, you might find this uncomfortable, but you're a goob and so is whoever modded you up. if you can honestly say that you've never looked at a member of the opposite sex and made a judgement on pretty/not pretty, cute/not cute, or whatever, then you're a liar too.
no apologies for ranting, people like you piss me off to no end. who the hell are you to tell me what's right and wrong?
RH 6.0 included a driver for my Canon BJC-210 bubblejet printer (thx to printtool). that might seem like a small thing to everyone else, but to me it means I don't need a windows machine to handle my "designed for windows" printer. and I also don't need to pay for a licensed copy of windows just to handle print spooling. add everything else I can do with my RH GNU/Linux machine, and I'm definitely a few bucks ahead.
the media (you know, time, newsweek, cnn, etc) certainly will not be there with cameras. not saying you shouldn't go protest; but the battle is in the courtroom, and at the end of it all, that's going to decide how things are. the media is owned and controlled by the same people who want linking to something like decss illegal. you're not going to have cnn interviewing anyone wearing a decss tshirt to get an opinion. being there standing silent is noble, but it's not going to change or affect the decision.
that being said, I have my decss shirt and my printed copy of decss, and I make it a point to explain why I'm wearing code every chance I get. the time for silence is long since past; silence is how we got here in the first place.
wish you luck finding someone then... if you have a degree and 5 years industry experience by the time you're 24, that means someone was willing to hire you without a degree or experience when you were 19.
but those young people are all spoiled punks anyway, so you wouldn't hire them in the first place...
I spent four years on active duty with the Air Force, during which I was a Ground Radio Repairman (translated, I did lots of module level swapping to make radio stuff work). During that time, I spent a year in Turkey and several months in the desert. The majority of the training I got was electronics theory and troubleshooting skills, especially on analog systems (the computer technology got sent away to be fixed by someone else).
The main benefits I got out of military service came after I was a civilian again... I recieve VA medical care, my house was purchased with a VA loan, I'm finishing school with the help of the GI Bill. Many of the intangible things I learned while wearing a uniform have come in really handy in real life.
since you have some specialized education already, you might consider guard/reserve; that would (eventually) give you the benefits that will help you later on, while still letting you do what you really want as a civilian. there's no guarantee that you'll end up in a military job that translates to be what you're looking for, even if that's what the job description says. (if you're near a guard/reserve unit, see if a recruiter will let you visit during a drill weekend, and talk to the people who do whatever job specialty you're looking into.)
you can be a military techie; but just keep in mind that it might not be the kind of techie that you'll be as a civilian.
HTH.
if someone drops 2 ounces of pot in your car, and you get pulled over after dropping them off at the 7-11, who gets busted? *you*. it's *your* car, and *you're* the only one in it.
same thing happens if the local police department finds 30gig of child porn/mp3's/warez on your windows share, that "someone else put there". you're busted.
my hacker side says yes, it would be great to take all those bits of unused space on people's drives and put it to good use. but I'm not going to jail for someone else's files.
you can't have it both ways, folks. we bitch about having to make adjustments to sites because they have to be viewable by IE3, 4,5, NS 3,4, 6, Mozilla, AOL, Opera, Lynx...etc. we say "gee, wouldn't it be cool if everyone followed standards so we wouldn't have to do this?" and *at the same time* complain because Netscape's browser "lost the war", and bitch about how Microsoft is evil because IE is used by more people than netscape. all right, that's an oversimplification, but still...
is one or more digiboards, which are multiport serial adapters. see http://www.digi.com. at the last school I attended, we used digiboards to put together a modem bank using a P100, 2 digiboards, and 16 usr 56k external modems. worked like a *charm*, although it took some handwringing to get the linux (slackware) side of things right.
HTH.
this is a little off topic for what you asked, but it might help anyway...
;)
couldn't you just set up an old 486 or early pentium system (or a single powerpc mac running linux) and let the macs telnet to that? seems like that would be easier to keep track of than rebooting a lab full of machines whenever you want to do linux stuff. you really only need a shell, after all.
tubes are great... at a local establishment in Milwaukee, WI, they're used to make martinis "shaken not stirred", by running the shaker bottle through a modified bank tube that runs through the bar.
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And no, I'm not gonna tell you the password.
makes you wonder if microsoft doesn't like the idea that the bulletins appear in the archives of the bugtraq mailing list, which they don't have control over.
Gaming has evolved far beyond play. Arguably the most revolutionary cultural force in the world right now
Gaming may be a part of the changes in culture that are occuring because of increases in computing power. To say, however, that there is no more important cultural force in the entire world is a very broad statement. Even in the United States, not every child has a computer, and certainly every child does not play computer games. Some children (including teenagers) play soccer, some concentrate on studies, others play musical instruments. Many children in less developed countries are so busy worrying about surviving that they have no idea what computer games are.
I will agree that there are major cultural changes taking place in the world. However, you seem to be excluding a large portion of the culture on this planet in forming your opinions.
Visual C++ and the related teaching material is all based on the Windows API, and algorithms are treated as secondary as best.
I know someone that makes a living as a carpenter. He relies on his tools, since without them he cannot do his work. Some things make his work easier, such as power tools. If I were to take his tools, and try to build something, the result would be inferior to whatever he would build. He doesn't think about how to use a hammer, he thinks about making sure the wall is going to stay upright. The point: the Windows API is a tool, just the same as libraries are a tool, and Visual C++ is a tool. But unless you know what to do with those tools, and why you use a certain size nail instead of another size nail to put together a wall, you don't have much. A Craftsman hammer will not help you get the wall straight (although it will help drive the nails). The algorithms are more important than the API, the language, and the platform. Whatever ultimately replaces the Windows API will still be built on Knuth.
...it will be too easy to backup everything, then restore modules and registry entries...
yes, those users who are helpless without trippy the paper clip on acid will have no problem editing their registry when the subscription runs out.
Frankly, I see it as a slap in the face to Mozilla, since all their volunteered hard work has created a product that will line Netscape's pockets
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Volunteering means you're not doing whatever you're doing for the money. I don't remember Netscape, AOL, or anyone else saying anything about paying anyone other than employees.
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Of course there will be many variations on applications, and that's all right. Imagine what the world would be like if someone had decided that Hamlet was the perfect tragedy, and left it at that.
If you're secure, then a portscan won't make a difference to you; the scan will be detected, the packets will be dropped, and life will go on. A *single, one pass* scan isn't abuse.
Go back ten years, and you'll hear the same discussion about wardialing. If, in the process of calling all the numbers in an exchange, I happen to hit your phone number, the worst that will happen is that you'll answer and I'll hang up. If someone called my phone company because I called them *once*, should my phone line be disconnected?
"Intent!" someone screams from the back..."You're going to h4x0r me!" Maybe, maybe not. But if your machines are secured, why are you so worried?
Today's h4x0rs are tomorrow's network engineers who have been playing with the internet their entire lives...
- find other people who have those tracks in their library and request them
- wait for them to get the request, and send the files to me
- wait for 1 to n number of emails, each with a 3-5mb attachment to arrive at my mail server (or one big honkin' email, which might not be accepted by my mail server)
- wait some more while my mail client downloads those attached files
That ease of use and deadly efficiency (compared to email, etc) is what makes things like Napster so different.I realize you were joking...
however, that's the *last* thing you should say.
even if you are, in fact, kidding.
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I make it a point to wear it in public...and every once in a while, someone says "hey...what's DVD/CCA and why are you against it?" once they see the front. It's a perfect time to explain what's
going on with the trial, and why it's a problem. Most people are curious enough to listen for a few minutes.
I know it's a small thing...but if a couple of people think about it when they're at the store looking at DVD's to buy, then maybe it'll help.
Ya gotta do what you can.
Clue police here...
The mp3's being swapped are not the issue. Napster is not going to make money letting me download Motley Crue tracks.
Napster is going to make money by selling/licensing the technology on which the clients, servers, and file transfers are based.
I was gonna go on a privacy rant, and decided to take a step back for a minute.
Regardless of what is "right"...bots, agents, spiders, whatever you wanna call them, are now a fact of life. They exist, more are being written, and it's going to continue.
The rest of the world doesn't care if you (we) think that these bots are rude or going against the rules. Someone has obviously found a way to make money, and they're going after it.
You can either take steps to protect yourself (if you feel you are threatened), or let the agent take what it wants and move along. Dealing with this sort of thing is now a fact of life online.
(Besides, how is this so different than running Gamespy or theclq.com against quake servers?)
Amen. About 92-93 timeframe, I was still in school, and the CS department was getting tired of the donated AT&T 3B2's they were using. Someone decided to buy three new Pentium I machines, with SCO. As you said, no C compiler...which pretty much made those new machines useless to a bunch of CS majors. Those machines ran Slackware as soon as we got our hands on it...
The coolest part was when a professor needed FORTRAN for a research project, and was having trouble getting time on a mainframe. Turned out GNU Fortran was on the Slackware distro, and he was able to complete his project on one of our Linux boxes. (He didn't need speed, he just needed FORTRAN.)
SCO reminds me of Microsoft...lots of money for the OS, then lots more money for development tools so you can actually build stuff. Then even more money for documentation and licensing. Blech.
(I know, I'm preaching to the choir...but SCO's lack of included tools is what got me into Linux in the first place.)
Ok, let's see. Bad video games have to be 10 feet from the good ones, behind a black (we would assume) curtain, and (we would assume again) an employee of the arcade would have to have some way to make sure no one sneaks behind the curtain.
Walk into an arcade (or better yet, local pizza joint), take 10 steps from any game, and imagine where the curtain would be. Then imagine what would need to be done to make sure an employee had the opportunity, at all times, to check ID before allowing someone inside the curtains.
Now, those games that are on the "bad" list are still legal, and you can still get a license for them. But you have to spend extra money to rearrange your arcade, put up curtains, possibly have another person on staff just to watch those machines...which won't make as much money if no one knows they're there, because they can't see them...
Yeah, those machines are still legal. But it quickly becomes so uneconomical to have them, that they disappear.
Of course, the Mayor's office didn't ban them. This is the land of the free, remember?
They just "restricted" them.
That's why this is something to worry about.
Restrictions that become so common that they are
accepted get worse.