As the article states if you *did* choose to "not allow file and printer sharing beyond our local network" running SP1, but instead of using IP addresses you used interfaces (don't allow anything from the modem, allow anything from eth) *then* SP2 creates this problem for you. It is safe to say that few home users would enter IP ranges when the option to enable/disable access on interfaces was there.
A trend is not about absolute numbers. Another site may have 90% Explorer and 4% firefox. If last year the figures were 92% vs 2%, then the trend is the same as w3schools (where firefox usage jumped from 8% -> 18 %)
>A Scientific American article recently observed >that people's satisfaction rises when there are >only a few choices, but drops quickly when the >choices multiply.
this was propably not about human people.. would you care to point me to the article? cause otherwise it's baaaaad news for supermarkets !!
Clusters is power for the people. It's something that simple people, without a white form, a microscope, and 500 million budget, can work on, and make better. Undoubtfully many advances that have been made for clustering, will be used in many other aspects of computing. Even supercomputer will benefit from them.
it's worse than that. they did nothing to hurt him directly. Maybe some minor indirectly costs but who 's to say they would have bought the software otherwise?
on the other hand he attacked them personally, without a warning whatsoever. He also took the law in his own hands which is definetely forbidden. it's easy to prove that he could use his program to identify the user and use the legal methods to find his right.
I'm pretty sure the victims would easily win a case against him.
oh, come on now, deleting a guys home ? it's too much for a stupid little program he used. Do that on the cracker, i'll say it's ok, but for the user it simply sucks, keep some perspective...
if someone stole your car and i bought it from him would you have *me* responsible?
and btw, isn't the programm shareware? can't someone just keep installing it over and over? i mean what is the guy's point??
you are actually posting using some of this hobbyware now, you understand that right? And i'm sure you are using a bit of hobbyware even when not posting to slashdot don't you?
>don't actually serve any real purpose or function for end-users
yeah, as i said before, all those different car companies out there, why can't they all unite and build one great car for everyone ?? OBVIOUSLY end users would prefer to have one car for everyone, but it will never happen because all these ford/vw/ferrari/toyota guys want attention and that's why car industry will never get a signficant ground in the transportation market...
i can understand why he is complaining: imagine a windows machine coming with all the programms a linux distro has installed by default. More advanced windows users tend to install few things on their machine to keep the registry clean and small, so it's a natural instict for them to freak out when they see linux has 3 office suites, 5 browsers, 10 desktop environments and 30 text editors installed when only one of each is enough.
and by the way they are right too, a loaded with programms windows machine feels.. well, loaded. this is not the case with linux but they don't know it.
>If Linux were as widespread on the desktop as MS >Windows, there would be a whole lot more exploits.
do you really believe that? here is how it works:
Open source has a clear advantage over closed source: more users means more developers. if there are more people working on OSS, more coding errors that can lead to exploits would be found. The code would be better, so an exploit would be more difficult to find. It's the nature of opensource. In the end we would have less exploits than today not more.
Again that's not a reason to like something. That's lack of a reason to dislike something. There are still many reasons to dislike XP (just as there are reasons to dislike redhat or mandrake). For exaple if i have to manually reboot to apply a security fix, it's just as bad as crashing for me.
weeks of uptime? the uptime is pretty constant for a corporate client and that is 8 hours. How do you figure you will get weeks of uptime? unless you are talking about servers where the uptime should be the same with the boxes' MTBF. With proper hardware that can be years of uptime.
>Is voice recognition software really viable? When >you take into account the different accents, >dialect and slang, is it just a pipe dream? Is it a >software or hardware related issue?
the real problem is propably the different voices. the others i can live without.. ( besides it's good for my mind to be able to say some *()$#% dialect that the computer won't understand )
for someone who migrated from apple to DOS , you sure are giving linux a hard time:))
>I think I have a handle on it....
You have xp in linux, unlike others. I agree though, the lack of off-the-shelf software is a bootleneck to linux adoption. I imagine it's a reason to drop apple for dos as well?
>for spurious reasons like "it's the only one you're >guaranteed to find on UNIX"
As opposed to Emacs that is. The reasons to use vi over pico or jEdit (??) or any other "better editor" are too many to mention. Don't get confused. The two competing editors are vi and emacs. Use pico if you like, but don't compare it to them !!
>linux is by far, a more complex OS to >setup/use/configure then windows
Is it? Really? I just poped in a mandrakemove cd, clicked three times and in a couple of minutes i had a perfectly configured linux running on my machine.
>I find it laughable that the oh so smarter linux >crowd doesn't have the first clue on how to USE word
so the "oh so smarter linux crowd" are windows-using professional journalists now ?
>That's like me bitching about features on >motorcycle just because I've sat on it
It's safe to say that most linux users are actually users who *used* windows first and *then* migrated to linux. On the contrary i haven't seen any windows user migrating *from* linux yet, they actually are "bitching about features on motorcycle just because they've sat on it".
>If I gave away your code that I didn't own under the GPL and you >knew about it but continued to distribute the source under the GPL you would lose all >rights to sue me
Actually no, he still has the right to sue, but the code is definetely gpl'ed. He would have a hard time proving there were any financial damages of course.
He can continue distribute the code under GPL, although the rational thing to do would be to use the code's original license.
The sco case of course is much simpler than this scenario.
>In my opinion, a company's distribution of source >for GPLed products for which it released versions >should NOT be held to void its IP claims
If a company puts code under GPL, it does not lose IP rights. They can still sue anyone who does not respect the GPL (under which the code is licensed).
If they stop distributing the code they do not lose any "gpl rights". And they can always distribute "their" code in any license they see fit. However, most the code in question is really IBM's code, so such a move would propably ignite a furious counter-attack.
>Their IP is already exposed
It is not their IP. The court will have to decide that, since it still is IBM's IP unless proven differently. However *if* they really felt it is their ip they should/would distribute the code under the license they see fit. This is a weak point in their argument. See, if that is the case, and it is their IP why did they choose GPL to distribute it?
>the maintainers of the GPL might want to add a >bit of verbage to clarify this issue
There is no issue here: if stolen IP is inserted in GPL code, GPL is very clear about it. Only this is not stolen IP and the whole case is not about that.
If what you describe ever happens, the company in question will simply distribute their code with their choice of license and GPL code with GPL license.
The only reason the "specialists" of the old platform will be gone is Microsoft not embracing linux. If there were a Visual Studio for linux i'm sure all those specialists wouldn't mind programming for linux.
Of course linux and opensource *does* create more jobs: the competition gets so much richer.
And yes, you hire people for hardware drivers (I assume you meant "OSS non-supported *hardware*"). Just as you do for windows etc.
You save some money on the license. You save a thousand times more just by working on OSS code
Imagine a world where there are 20 different openoffice clones each with different strengths that work flawlessly together and the best of the best features stay in the main tree which is forked again, etc etc.
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The article actually talks about configuring the File/Print sharing the *right* way and still have trouble.
As the article states if you *did* choose to "not allow file and printer sharing beyond our local network" running SP1, but instead of using IP addresses you used interfaces (don't allow anything from the modem, allow anything from eth)
*then* SP2 creates this problem for you.
It is safe to say that few home users would enter IP ranges when the option to enable/disable access on interfaces was there.
indeed, i actually find kde better to use that windowmaker now, but that's propably because wmaker,is stuck in 0.80.2 for like years...
ah, he just did it to piss off stalman ..
>the screenshots always kill a webserver don't they ;) Here's a mirror
:)
apparently they can kill a couple of webserver just as easily
A trend is not about absolute numbers.
Another site may have 90% Explorer and 4% firefox.
If last year the figures were 92% vs 2%, then the trend is the same as w3schools (where firefox usage jumped from 8% -> 18 %)
>A Scientific American article recently observed
>that people's satisfaction rises when there are
>only a few choices, but drops quickly when the
>choices multiply.
this was propably not about human people.. would you care to point me to the article? cause otherwise it's baaaaad news for supermarkets !!
Clusters is power for the people.
It's something that simple people, without a white form, a microscope, and 500 million budget, can work on, and make better.
Undoubtfully many advances that have been made for clustering, will be used in many other aspects of computing. Even supercomputer will benefit from them.
it's worse than that. they did nothing to hurt him directly. Maybe some minor indirectly costs but who 's to say they would have bought the software otherwise?
on the other hand he attacked them personally, without a warning whatsoever. He also took the law in his own hands which is definetely forbidden.
it's easy to prove that he could use his program to identify the user and use the legal methods to find his right.
I'm pretty sure the victims would easily win a case against him.
oh, come on now, deleting a guys home ?
it's too much for a stupid little program he used. Do that on the cracker, i'll say it's ok, but for the user it simply sucks, keep some perspective...
if someone stole your car and i bought it from him would you have *me* responsible?
and btw, isn't the programm shareware? can't someone just keep installing it over and over? i mean what is the guy's point??
have you checked the prices on 4-way motherboards?
you can't have a 4-way machine under 15K, i don't care what processor u use.
this is really low cost for a power5.
>is really a mish-mash of various hobbyware
you are actually posting using some of this hobbyware now, you understand that right? And i'm sure you are using a bit of hobbyware even when not posting to slashdot don't you?
>don't actually serve any real purpose or function for end-users
yeah, as i said before, all those different car companies out there, why can't they all unite and build one great car for everyone ?? OBVIOUSLY end users would prefer to have one car for everyone, but it will never happen because all these ford/vw/ferrari/toyota guys want attention and that's why car industry will never get a signficant ground in the transportation market...
there are tons of different cars out there, and people like it. Cars get better, cheaper and more secure all the time.
do you think it would be better if we all had a ford?
i can understand why he is complaining :
.. well, loaded.
imagine a windows machine coming with all the programms a linux distro has installed by default.
More advanced windows users tend to install few things on their machine to keep the registry clean and small, so it's a natural instict for them to freak out when they see linux has 3 office suites, 5 browsers, 10 desktop environments and 30 text editors installed when only one of each is enough.
and by the way they are right too, a loaded with programms windows machine feels
this is not the case with linux but they don't know it.
that's vi.
>If Linux were as widespread on the desktop as MS
>Windows, there would be a whole lot more exploits.
do you really believe that? here is how it works:
Open source has a clear advantage over closed source: more users means more developers. if there are more people working on OSS, more coding errors that can lead to exploits would be found. The code would be better, so an exploit would be more difficult to find. It's the nature of opensource. In the end we would have less exploits than today not more.
Again that's not a reason to like something. That's lack of a reason to dislike something. There are still many reasons to dislike XP (just as there are reasons to dislike redhat or mandrake). For exaple if i have to manually reboot to apply a security fix, it's just as bad as crashing for me.
weeks of uptime?
the uptime is pretty constant for a corporate client and that is 8 hours. How do you figure you will get weeks of uptime? unless you are talking about servers where the uptime should be the same with the boxes' MTBF. With proper hardware that can be years of uptime.
>Is voice recognition software really viable? When
>you take into account the different accents,
>dialect and slang, is it just a pipe dream? Is it a
>software or hardware related issue?
the real problem is propably the different voices. the others i can live without.. ( besides it's good for my mind to be able to say some *()$#% dialect that the computer won't understand )
for someone who migrated from apple to DOS , you sure are giving linux a hard time :))
>I think I have a handle on it....
You have xp in linux, unlike others. I agree though, the lack of off-the-shelf software is a bootleneck to linux adoption. I imagine it's a reason to drop apple for dos as well?
so, you've been using linux and you only registered in slashdot two weeks ago?
:)
...
I assume that was after you migrated back to windows ? It seems you really didn't make a good start with linux
But my point stands. You were a windows user in the beggining. You still are. You didn't migrate from linux, you just "gave linux a chance".
still you do have *some* xp, i'd like to hear your story
>for spurious reasons like "it's the only one you're
>guaranteed to find on UNIX"
As opposed to Emacs that is. The reasons to use vi over pico or jEdit (??) or any other "better editor" are too many to mention. Don't get confused. The two competing editors are vi and emacs. Use pico if you like, but don't compare it to them !!
>linux is by far, a more complex OS to
>setup/use/configure then windows
Is it? Really? I just poped in a mandrakemove cd, clicked three times and in a couple of minutes i had a perfectly configured linux running on my machine.
>I find it laughable that the oh so smarter linux
>crowd doesn't have the first clue on how to USE word
so the "oh so smarter linux crowd" are windows-using professional journalists now ?
>That's like me bitching about features on
>motorcycle just because I've sat on it
It's safe to say that most linux users are actually users who *used* windows first and *then* migrated to linux. On the contrary i haven't seen any windows user migrating *from* linux yet, they actually are "bitching about features on motorcycle just because they've sat on it".
>If I gave away your code that I didn't own under the GPL and you
>knew about it but continued to distribute the source under the GPL you would lose all
>rights to sue me
Actually no, he still has the right to sue, but the code is definetely gpl'ed. He would have a hard time proving there were any financial damages of course.
He can continue distribute the code under GPL, although the rational thing to do would be to use the code's original license.
The sco case of course is much simpler than this scenario.
>In my opinion, a company's distribution of source
>for GPLed products for which it released versions
>should NOT be held to void its IP claims
If a company puts code under GPL, it does not lose IP rights. They can still sue anyone who does not respect the GPL (under which the code is licensed).
If they stop distributing the code they do not lose any "gpl rights". And they can always distribute "their" code in any license they see fit. However, most the code in question is really IBM's code, so such a move would propably ignite a furious counter-attack.
>Their IP is already exposed
It is not their IP. The court will have to decide that, since it still is IBM's IP unless proven differently. However *if* they really felt it is their ip they should/would distribute the code under the license they see fit. This is a weak point in their argument. See, if that is the case, and it is their IP why did they choose GPL to distribute it?
>the maintainers of the GPL might want to add a
>bit of verbage to clarify this issue
There is no issue here: if stolen IP is inserted in GPL code, GPL is very clear about it. Only this is not stolen IP and the whole case is not about that.
If what you describe ever happens, the company in question will simply distribute their code with their choice of license and GPL code with GPL license.
The only reason the "specialists" of the old platform will be gone is Microsoft not embracing linux. If there were a Visual Studio for linux i'm sure all those specialists wouldn't mind programming for linux.
Of course linux and opensource *does* create more jobs: the competition gets so much richer.
And yes, you hire people for hardware drivers (I assume you meant "OSS non-supported *hardware*"). Just as you do for windows etc.
You save some money on the license. You save a thousand times more just by working on OSS code
Imagine a world where there are 20 different openoffice clones each with different strengths that work flawlessly together and the best of the best features stay in the main tree which is forked again, etc etc.
Do you understand what i'm talking about?