Commenting on this bug has absolutely no effect at all on the likelihood that we are going to reconsider. So that people don't get their hopes up falsely, I'm locking this bug to additional comments.'"
Wow. Talk about arrogance on their part.
Locking the comments doesn't mean the issue goes away.
After IBM PCD was sold off to Lenovo, the quality has decreased.
Their well-known Thinkpad product line transitioned from a no compromise option to a lesser product. First, the high-quality Flexview displays went. Next was any non-widescreen display, followed by the split into the current models seen today. In trying to globalize a US brand, they killed what made the Thinkpads unique - being able to pay a good amount of money, and get a no-nonsense, no-compromise product.
As for HP: The damage at HP was done during Fiorina's time. You want to blame anyone, you pin it on her. Not Hurd, or Apotheker.
Engineering a product for the Third World and then simply changing the product manuals/power plugs for the First World always results in an inferior product. Selling it off to an interest in the Third World guarantees this outcome.
The US has the ability to enforce near-infinite jurisdiction, try using it on multinationals for once. If the multinational's efforts at arbitrage are thwarted at every step, including lobbying efforts, they will find themselves having to reconsider their actions.
It would be amusing to see a multinational try to make an argument on humanity because all the folks in their business continuity plan are all in Guantanamo Bay or some black site. Doubly so if the people that sent work offshore were in a prison that was next to their factory or call center.
How about targeting incentives for the potential workers (that is, you target the people that would work there) instead of letting Foxconn make another hellhole?
What a shame, since they were right on the money with the N900, and would have been on the N950. The new Nokia slogan might as well be "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish non WP7 products".
Given that the N9 is crippled through deliberate exclusion from the US/UK/Germany markets, the only thing Nokia is becoming is an also-ran Windows Phone manufacturer. That product was designed to fail at sales so that Elop can point at it with some numbers and justify killing it.
Given that Nokia has gone this direction, is there anything that has the N900's featureset/openness?
This would be nice if this was available to US citizens as well. It would provide some certainty to where one's own data resides, and that they're not outside the US's jurisdiction. That, and you wouldn't have much more than geographic placement.
You're right. They ARE the private sector. And the private sector is the place where wealth and jobs come from. When government takes wealth away from the private sector or places burdens upon the private sector, there will be less money for everyone and fewer jobs.
So are the people that work for them. Why does business get to place burdens on those who work for them, but it is not OK to do the same to business? Being friendly to workers/jobseekers by not giving them unreasonable burdens is business-friendly - for treating any of them with more respect through reasonable requirements and more secure arrangements results in better work.
No, they'll simply move to someplace where they can't be reached or go out of business altogether. Equal misery for all, right?
What makes the world more connected (and easier to do send work anywhere) is what makes it impossible to be out of reach. Remote islands can be found with satellite imagery, corrupt countries can swing in any direction(SE Asia), DNA can out people under false identities, records are being shared amongst various countries, and that living in isolation exacts a high cost.
Entrepreneurs, small businesses, and other business are not gods, nor human shields for the private sector.
The more freedom you hand to business, the more slavery you get.
We gave them more freedom, and they used that to create more slavery. If you want tax cuts, you have to be able to start putting the millions out of work, back into work in a capacity they prefer. If they don't like it, they'll have to put up with it, since the US can go anywhere it wants to in the world.
The only option should be to link the DoD even closer to the IRS. One arm handles the international repatriation and international tracking, the other collects the revenue from all parts of the scofflaws.
At some point employers will hire out of fear, and the US will prosper.
Product and service quality always goes down when customers can be arbitrarily declared as "too much to maintain".
What you're suggesting is a function of unchecked business power, versus a balance between employer and employee. Start giving businesses the same grief they dish out, and perhaps they might learn the error of their ways.
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Murdoch is becoming a liability, not a core asset to the company.
You might get some developers if it remains more open than their competitors. The less roadblocks to writing apps for it, the better.
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Commenting on this bug has absolutely no effect at all on the likelihood that we are going to reconsider. So that people don't get their hopes up falsely, I'm locking this bug to additional comments.'"
Wow. Talk about arrogance on their part.
Locking the comments doesn't mean the issue goes away.
Wouldn't that just open a market for knockoffs?
By your logic, you'd be fine if everyone sold junk - even if it meant there was no alternative.
That's the way you kill products and companies, especially Thinkpads.
After IBM PCD was sold off to Lenovo, the quality has decreased.
Their well-known Thinkpad product line transitioned from a no compromise option to a lesser product. First, the high-quality Flexview displays went. Next was any non-widescreen display, followed by the split into the current models seen today. In trying to globalize a US brand, they killed what made the Thinkpads unique - being able to pay a good amount of money, and get a no-nonsense, no-compromise product.
As for HP:
The damage at HP was done during Fiorina's time. You want to blame anyone, you pin it on her. Not Hurd, or Apotheker.
Engineering a product for the Third World and then simply changing the product manuals/power plugs for the First World always results in an inferior product. Selling it off to an interest in the Third World guarantees this outcome.
So it can be done?
Just overclock it and get an extended battery.
They get a very sanitized version of the phone, you get to keep your privacy - all while complying with their order.
It may be out in the open, but the information still has a classification.
The US has the ability to enforce near-infinite jurisdiction, try using it on multinationals for once. If the multinational's efforts at arbitrage are thwarted at every step, including lobbying efforts, they will find themselves having to reconsider their actions.
It would be amusing to see a multinational try to make an argument on humanity because all the folks in their business continuity plan are all in Guantanamo Bay or some black site. Doubly so if the people that sent work offshore were in a prison that was next to their factory or call center.
Fix the corruption, keep the tariffs, and keep the taxes from being passed down to regular people over there.
Giving in to a company that wants to export Chinese thuggery isn't going to improve things.
Given how much corruption exists, there really isn't a legitimate way for it not to be bad over there.
Why should the company have all the fun?
How about targeting incentives for the potential workers (that is, you target the people that would work there) instead of letting Foxconn make another hellhole?
Even if it does come out, don't expect it to be as open as Maemo.
The keyword is that it's for "feature phones". Those would be the S40 devices you see Nokia sell.
What a shame, since they were right on the money with the N900, and would have been on the N950. The new Nokia slogan might as well be "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish non WP7 products".
Given that the N9 is crippled through deliberate exclusion from the US/UK/Germany markets, the only thing Nokia is becoming is an also-ran Windows Phone manufacturer. That product was designed to fail at sales so that Elop can point at it with some numbers and justify killing it.
Given that Nokia has gone this direction, is there anything that has the N900's featureset/openness?
Is Foxconn doubting that the workforce will be as pliant as it is in China? That's the only skillset that matters at that company.
This would be nice if this was available to US citizens as well. It would provide some certainty to where one's own data resides, and that they're not outside the US's jurisdiction. That, and you wouldn't have much more than geographic placement.
You're right. They ARE the private sector. And the private sector is the place where wealth and jobs come from. When government takes wealth away from the private sector or places burdens upon the private sector, there will be less money for everyone and fewer jobs.
So are the people that work for them. Why does business get to place burdens on those who work for them, but it is not OK to do the same to business? Being friendly to workers/jobseekers by not giving them unreasonable burdens is business-friendly - for treating any of them with more respect through reasonable requirements and more secure arrangements results in better work.
No, they'll simply move to someplace where they can't be reached or go out of business altogether. Equal misery for all, right?
What makes the world more connected (and easier to do send work anywhere) is what makes it impossible to be out of reach. Remote islands can be found with satellite imagery, corrupt countries can swing in any direction(SE Asia), DNA can out people under false identities, records are being shared amongst various countries, and that living in isolation exacts a high cost.
N/T
Entrepreneurs, small businesses, and other business are not gods, nor human shields for the private sector.
The more freedom you hand to business, the more slavery you get.
We gave them more freedom, and they used that to create more slavery. If you want tax cuts, you have to be able to start putting the millions out of work, back into work in a capacity they prefer. If they don't like it, they'll have to put up with it, since the US can go anywhere it wants to in the world.
The only option should be to link the DoD even closer to the IRS. One arm handles the international repatriation and international tracking, the other collects the revenue from all parts of the scofflaws.
At some point employers will hire out of fear, and the US will prosper.
The US can go all over the world if it pleases. Jurisdiction won't stop a sufficiently motivated government to handle your sabotage.
How about doing something different, and not simply letting the banks loot another time?
You meant IBM-Lenovo.
What superior engineering comes from the company that wrote the book on why you don't send work offshore?
Product and service quality always goes down when customers can be arbitrarily declared as "too much to maintain".
What you're suggesting is a function of unchecked business power, versus a balance between employer and employee. Start giving businesses the same grief they dish out, and perhaps they might learn the error of their ways.