Damn, where does all of this FUD keep coming from? PostgreSQL is not much slower than MySQL in the single digit user area and blows it away once you start updating/inserting and get alot of users hitting the DB.
5 to 10% slower is not slow. Yes, 3 or 4 years ago it was, but not now. 7.3 (in CVS), will kick some serious butt..
MySQL, w/ InnoDB tables (binaried as MySQL-Max) supports transactions with row-level locking and multi-versioning. It also supports foreign key constraints to some degree (on delete cascade, IIRC).
But in this case forget hotbackups unless your willing to buy the tool for InnoDB (it is NOT open source).
What I can't figure out is why I would ever need a commercial license unless I wanted support. If the clients are under LGPL, that means I can link them in as long as I give a relinkable object for my code.
The problem comes in when your system only uses MySQL and nothing else. They tell you that this requires a commercial license even if your usage does not violate the GPL or LGPL. Why?
As far as InnoDB goes (which adds needed support for such things as transactions and FKs), it is just about worthless for 24x7 unless you buy the hot backups package from them.
Actually, with a free-odds bet, both pass and don't pass are in your favor by a small margin (about 4 percent). Stay away from anything in the center and you'll be fine...:)
The three games I play in a casino are, in order, craps, pai-gow poker and baccarat, all three are low house odds. Baccarat is rare, just when I feel lucky. The other two I can play for hours on a couple of hundred dollars, just soaking up comps having fun.
If you just out to have fun, the big secrets are, one, be polite,and two, always tip the dealer; they will remember it! At craps play this helps alot...:)
I might a couple of them reversed here or there, but it is close enough.
BWP
Re:Another reason to go with AMD.
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AMD's 64-Bit Chip
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Hmm, but you don't expect your DVD player to play your VHS videocassettes?
I would if they were in the same media type. Just like that new holo-storage announce; they said the drives will be compatiable with CDs and DVDs.
Backwards compatibility is fine where practical, but sometimes the past needs to be buried. Who would buy a computer now with a punch card reader? Or a 5.25" floppy drive?
No neither one. But I see nothing bad with a 64bit x86. If all I wanted was a 64bit system, why pay Intels high prices when I can go Sparc cheaper? If there is no compat, there is no reason to stay Intel.
Note the absence of any released version of FreeBSD.
I think you need to re-read that file. +3 indeed.
Affects: FreeBSD-CURRENT between 2002-03-18 and 2002-06-25
No, you try re-reading it again. FreeBSD releases (which are based on FreeBSD-Stable) are NOT anywhere near being FreeBSD-Current!
FreeBSD-Current is not a release version. As a matter of fact, people are told NOT to use it unless they know what they are doing, and not just becuase they want one of the new features (which are nice, I've got a FreeBSD-Current SMP box here).
Ever since Intel released that the "next" processor would be incompatiable with the x86, I've been waiting for AMD to pick it up. A 64-bit x86 is just what the doctor ordered; easy to port too, and runs all of your old software to boot at a decent speed.
The Wired article was not bad (except for the typo about 1995 being the release of the 386 instead of 1985). And it's very true, would YOU expect your DVD player NOT to play your CDs? Not me.
No, Perl was removed becuase it has started to become very bloated, plain and simple. 5, 10 or even 20 MB could be handled, but it is starting to get a little bit bigger. Plus the language bigots had crept in too...:)
Atleast I got Perl in there, JKH and others were voting for TCL instead. (YUCK)
When I added Perl to FreeBSD 2.0 way back when, it came in very handy for things which needed to be written. In this day and age, FreeBSD has started to take more and more things out of the base installation and allow people to add them back in via a port. Which I agree with, why does a web server need Sendmail installed???
BWP
Re:You don't even need to learn morse code !
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Field Day 2002
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But, if you do want to get into long-distance communication...
I did some long-distance work via satallite when I was still a no-code tech (I'm an Extra now). It was one of the main reasons why I got my ticket.
As a matter of fact, tommorow will be 11 years since I passed the test (At a field day no less!)
How is the BSD license restrictive? MAYBE the original license was, but not the new one. I've got code in FreeBSD (developer from 1993-2000) and you very welcome to take my code, modify it and sale it. Or not even modify it. Just mention my copyright somewhere in the docs and don't blame me if it breaks your machine!
I'm trying not to flamebait here, but the only way that one can take the BSDL as being too restrictive is to say that it does not go far enough in being Free Software instead of just being Open Source Software. It just one step up from being public domain and my primary purpose in using it is to disclaim any warranties. It says,in essence, here take this software and do ANYTHING you want with it, just don't blame us if it breaks your machine.
Unless your with the Free Color Printer Program, in which case you can order multiple 3 pack blacks with each color ink order for free.
Nice program, get a free printer (need to use about 600 color pages a month, 2000 total), cheap color ink and free black ink. After 3 years you own the printer.
If you think writing a POS is sytem that simple go for it! I've been involved with POS since 1990 (My dad co-owned one of two POS scanning companies in Houston from 1987 to 1995, I was his lead PC tech from 1990 to 1993) and I can tell you it ain't that easy. Sure, if all you want is a basic cash register it's not too hard, but when you get into scanning it gets just a little bit harder.:)
And a web based system will NOT cut it either. You'll need an X app to compeate with the windows versions out there. Plus you'll have to write drivers for the printers, scanners (those that don't have a keyboard wedge available), scales, cash drawers, customer keyboards and the other things people hook up to a POS system.
Been there, done that, DID NOT WANT THE T-SHIRT!
BWP
P.S. This is just retail, when you get into hospitality systems (ie selling food), it gets even worse!
Linux and even the *BSD projects would never have seen the light of day if it wasn't for the GNU compiler.
Now this one is wrong. There were other C compilers for the x86 platform, just none as good. 386BSD would have used a different C compiler (As a matter of fact, there have been changes made to FreeBSDs tree so as to allow this). It just may have taken longer, thats all.
When I added Perl to FreeBSD pre 2.0 (This was right after the nasty little letters from USL), Perl was at 4.036 and SMALL.
It has now gotten so bloated I can't belive it! I still use and love Perl, but do we really need all of the modules included? I thought that was what CPAN was for.
BWP (Yes, I am the one that added Perl to FreeBSD. I also can be thanked for other things such as the "GPLed" math emulator (it is not!), sun libm, the broken mitsumi CD-ROM driver of 1.0 and the original FAQ. For those that doubt me, contact me via email...:))
It would be nice if I could the article. The page comes up blank here under Nutscrape 4.79.
Arrggghhh. I hate sites that don't use standard HTML. This page has a f*cked table setup (as normal...)
BWP
Re:You cannot deny GCC is the heart of free softwa
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The Stallman Factor
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>All the modern free *BSDs would be crippled without GCC as well.
I think what would have happened is that the *BSD would be using BCC (which some people do use on the system). This is why very, very few files in the system are GCC only. Even then, they are ifdef anyway.
There are other C compilers out there, just none that are as good.
Ok, let me get this straight, Linux is just supposed to be a kernel and it is the distributions that make the OS. How much GNU code (as written by the org) are in the kernel? I don't think there is any or very little. Therefore, why should it have the GNU tag stuck on it? A compiler chain does NOT make the OS!
I see this infighting, time after time. Yes, I do agree with the GPL, but the BS that happens each time someone is a little slow to release source makes me glad I got hooked on the BSDL first.
And before you ask, yes I have released stuff under the BSDL, as a matter of fact I was a FreeBSD developer from 1993-2000 (Look under Alumni to see who I am.).
If people spent HALF the time coding instead of flaming, we might just have better code out there.
I would say Irix is a SysV. It does not look like any BSD I ever saw! True64 is also a SysV Unix.
OS X is the only commercial BSD (outside of BSDi) that I know of. SunOS 4.X was the last of them. Yes, I know some of the smaller offerings were BSD, but they were rare once SVR4 came out. That was the big switch over.
All of this springs from the fact that BSD was never a commercial offering to begin with, it was academic. To sell BSD you had to have a SysV license anyway, so you might as well just sell SysV.
The PrOn world has already be doing this for awhile! I work for a free hosting company and we monitor our sites for PrOn all of the time. Atleast once a day I get hit with a download for a dialer (disconnects your system and redials via long distance so you can get your PrOn that way).
Just another example of how the mainstream world follows the PrOn world...:)
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MySQL
Fast. Free. Easy. Lacks features.
PostgreSQL
Slow. Free. Difficult. Better feature set.
Damn, where does all of this FUD keep coming from? PostgreSQL is not much slower than MySQL in the single digit user area and blows it away once you start updating/inserting and get alot of users hitting the DB.
5 to 10% slower is not slow. Yes, 3 or 4 years ago it was, but not now. 7.3 (in CVS), will kick some serious butt..
BWP
MySQL, w/ InnoDB tables (binaried as MySQL-Max) supports transactions with row-level locking and multi-versioning. It also supports foreign key constraints to some degree (on delete cascade, IIRC).
But in this case forget hotbackups unless your willing to buy the tool for InnoDB (it is NOT open source).
BWP
PostgreSQL 7.2 and above has a non-locking vacuum.
As far as replication goes, it is available, but a little hard to setup.
BWP
What I can't figure out is why I would ever need a commercial license unless I wanted support. If the clients are under LGPL, that means I can link them in as long as I give a relinkable object for my code.
The problem comes in when your system only uses MySQL and nothing else. They tell you that this requires a commercial license even if your usage does not violate the GPL or LGPL. Why?
As far as InnoDB goes (which adds needed support for such things as transactions and FKs), it is just about worthless for 24x7 unless you buy the hot backups package from them.
Arrggghhhh, licensing issues.
GB
Craps, my game...:)
,and two, always tip the dealer; they will remember it! At craps play this helps alot...:)
Actually, with a free-odds bet, both pass and don't pass are in your favor by a small margin (about 4 percent). Stay away from anything in the center and you'll be fine...:)
The three games I play in a casino are, in order, craps, pai-gow poker and baccarat, all three are low house odds. Baccarat is rare, just when I feel lucky. The other two I can play for hours on a couple of hundred dollars, just soaking up comps having fun.
If you just out to have fun, the big secrets are, one, be polite
BWP
Nope, PostgreSQL does not come from Illustra, but Illustra does come from Postgres.
s tgreSQL
Rough (very rough) timeline:
Ingres (UCB)
Ingres (commericial)
Postgres
Illustra
Postgres95
Po
I might a couple of them reversed here or there, but it is close enough.
BWP
Hmm, but you don't expect your DVD player to play your VHS videocassettes?
I would if they were in the same media type. Just like that new holo-storage announce; they said the drives will be compatiable with CDs and DVDs.
Backwards compatibility is fine where practical, but sometimes the past needs to be buried. Who would buy a computer now with a punch card reader? Or a 5.25" floppy drive?
No neither one. But I see nothing bad with a 64bit x86. If all I wanted was a 64bit system, why pay Intels high prices when I can go Sparc cheaper? If there is no compat, there is no reason to stay Intel.
None of the FreeBSD releases, or the -STABLE branch were vulnerable to the openssh bug.
e s/ FreeBSD-SA-02:31.openssh.asc
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisori
Note the absence of any released version of FreeBSD.
I think you need to re-read that file. +3 indeed.
Affects: FreeBSD-CURRENT between 2002-03-18 and 2002-06-25
No, you try re-reading it again. FreeBSD releases (which are based on FreeBSD-Stable) are NOT anywhere near being FreeBSD-Current!
FreeBSD-Current is not a release version. As a matter of fact, people are told NOT to use it unless they know what they are doing, and not just becuase they want one of the new features (which are nice, I've got a FreeBSD-Current SMP box here).
BWP
Ever since Intel released that the "next" processor would be incompatiable with the x86, I've been waiting for AMD to pick it up. A 64-bit x86 is just what the doctor ordered; easy to port too, and runs all of your old software to boot at a decent speed.
The Wired article was not bad (except for the typo about 1995 being the release of the 386 instead of 1985). And it's very true, would YOU expect your DVD player NOT to play your CDs? Not me.
BWP
Huh?
No, Perl was removed becuase it has started to become very bloated, plain and simple. 5, 10 or even 20 MB could be handled, but it is starting to get a little bit bigger. Plus the language bigots had crept in too...:)
Atleast I got Perl in there, JKH and others were voting for TCL instead. (YUCK)
When I added Perl to FreeBSD 2.0 way back when, it came in very handy for things which needed to be written. In this day and age, FreeBSD has started to take more and more things out of the base installation and allow people to add them back in via a port. Which I agree with, why does a web server need Sendmail installed???
BWP
But, if you do want to get into long-distance communication...
I did some long-distance work via satallite when I was still a no-code tech (I'm an Extra now). It was one of the main reasons why I got my ticket.
As a matter of fact, tommorow will be 11 years since I passed the test (At a field day no less!)
BWP
AKA N5VMF
....As far as I know, Oracle, Informix, DB2, PostgreSQL and others aren't under the MS umbrella yet....
Your right, but they are not open source ether.
Last time I checked (about 2 min ago), PostgreSQL is open source (BSDL as a matter of fact).
BWP
Ok you've lost me here...
,in essence, here take this software and do ANYTHING you want with it, just don't blame us if it breaks your machine.
The BSD licence is somewhat restrictive...
How is the BSD license restrictive? MAYBE the original license was, but not the new one. I've got code in FreeBSD (developer from 1993-2000) and you very welcome to take my code, modify it and sale it. Or not even modify it. Just mention my copyright somewhere in the docs and don't blame me if it breaks your machine!
I'm trying not to flamebait here, but the only way that one can take the BSDL as being too restrictive is to say that it does not go far enough in being Free Software instead of just being Open Source Software. It just one step up from being public domain and my primary purpose in using it is to disclaim any warranties. It says
BWP
Unless your with the Free Color Printer Program, in which case you can order multiple 3 pack blacks with each color ink order for free.
Nice program, get a free printer (need to use about 600 color pages a month, 2000 total), cheap color ink and free black ink. After 3 years you own the printer.
BWP
If you think writing a POS is sytem that simple go for it! I've been involved with POS since 1990 (My dad co-owned one of two POS scanning companies in Houston from 1987 to 1995, I was his lead PC tech from 1990 to 1993) and I can tell you it ain't that easy. Sure, if all you want is a basic cash register it's not too hard, but when you get into scanning it gets just a little bit harder.:)
And a web based system will NOT cut it either. You'll need an X app to compeate with the windows versions out there. Plus you'll have to write drivers for the printers, scanners (those that don't have a keyboard wedge available), scales, cash drawers, customer keyboards and the other things people hook up to a POS system.
Been there, done that, DID NOT WANT THE T-SHIRT!
BWP
P.S. This is just retail, when you get into hospitality systems (ie selling food), it gets even worse!
Linux and even the *BSD projects would never have seen the light of day if it wasn't for the GNU compiler.
Now this one is wrong. There were other C compilers for the x86 platform, just none as good.
386BSD would have used a different C compiler (As a matter of fact, there have been changes made to FreeBSDs tree so as to allow this). It just may have taken longer, thats all.
BWP
When I added Perl to FreeBSD pre 2.0 (This was right after the nasty little letters from USL), Perl was at 4.036 and SMALL.
It has now gotten so bloated I can't belive it! I still use and love Perl, but do we really need all of the modules included? I thought that was what CPAN was for.
BWP
(Yes, I am the one that added Perl to FreeBSD. I also can be thanked for other things such as the "GPLed" math emulator (it is not!), sun libm, the broken mitsumi CD-ROM driver of 1.0 and the original FAQ. For those that doubt me, contact me via email...:))
It would be nice if I could the article. The page comes up blank here under Nutscrape 4.79.
Arrggghhh. I hate sites that don't use standard HTML. This page has a f*cked table setup (as normal...)
BWP
>All the modern free *BSDs would be crippled without GCC as well.
I think what would have happened is that the *BSD would be using BCC (which some people do use on the system). This is why very, very few files in the system are GCC only. Even then, they are ifdef anyway.
There are other C compilers out there, just none that are as good.
BWP
Ok, let me get this straight, Linux is just supposed to be a kernel and it is the distributions that make the OS.
How much GNU code (as written by the org) are in the kernel? I don't think there is any or very little. Therefore, why should it have the GNU tag stuck on it? A compiler chain does NOT make the OS!
I have never been able to figure this out.
BWP
On the parent, this one sentence is just not right.
Remember also that if they don't protect their copyright, they *loose it*.
That is patents you loose, not copyrights. You can not loose a copyright just by failing to police it.
BWP
I see this infighting, time after time. Yes, I do agree with the GPL, but the BS that happens each time someone is a little slow to release source makes me glad I got hooked on the BSDL first.
And before you ask, yes I have released stuff under the BSDL, as a matter of fact I was a FreeBSD developer from 1993-2000 (Look under Alumni to see who I am.).
If people spent HALF the time coding instead of flaming, we might just have better code out there.
BWP
All the Guild is asking, is for Amazon to:
1. Not place links for books that have recently been published.
2. Not make the link so obvious for others.
They are NOT EVEN CLOSE to the RIAA or such!
If nothing else, Slashdot readers can ALWAYS be counted to blow something totally out of proprotion.
BWP
I would say Irix is a SysV. It does not look like any BSD I ever saw! True64 is also a SysV Unix.
OS X is the only commercial BSD (outside of BSDi) that I know of. SunOS 4.X was the last of them.
Yes, I know some of the smaller offerings were BSD, but they were rare once SVR4 came out. That was the big switch over.
All of this springs from the fact that BSD was never a commercial offering to begin with, it was academic. To sell BSD you had to have a SysV license anyway, so you might as well just sell SysV.
BWP
The PrOn world has already be doing this for awhile! I work for a free hosting company and we monitor our sites for PrOn all of the time. Atleast once a day I get hit with a download for a dialer (disconnects your system and redials via long distance so you can get your PrOn that way).
Just another example of how the mainstream world follows the PrOn world...:)
BWP