not documented standards, more like de facto... but to name a few:
consistency across widgets
intuitive reaction to user-input
what would suprise the user the least (wwstustl)
and of course, keep it simple, stupid (kiss)
fyi, a whore is someone who posts seemingly insightful bullshit for the sake of getting modded up instead of contributing to a convo. in this case the whore posted a blatant broken shopping analogy that shows he obviously didn't read the article and doesn't give a shit about anything but getting positive moderations.. fuck moderations and fuck whores
buy a car and make a big stink because you can't drive it, see if the dealership tells you to "learn how to drive, moron".. I think that is a better analogy than your mop handle shit, after all its a website not a wallmart.
real player is the epidemy of obtrusive software.. installing stealthily into your startup menu and autorun registry, putting icons on your desktop, task tray, start menu and control panel, associating itself with every godamn 'media' file format in the universe, and force feeding you ads and nagging you to upgrade
whats wrong with it? I guess it works. but its a dignity thing.. real player makes you it's bitch
thats what I was thinkin.. if I could goto a music site select some tracks, select the format, bitrate, medium, etc.. that would be money well spent. All my audio equipment is for mp3, if I have a music cd the only thing I do with it is rip it to mp3 and throw it away.. that bullshit makes me rather search kazaa.
I think I agree with their tech support.. if they give you a music file their obligation has been fullfilled. if you can't play it how is it their problem?
You might as well say that no-one should use mail, because your letter might get lost en-route
mail not reaching its destination is a lot different than taking a letter and throwing it away, or worse.. having a machine throw it away for you. btw, do you how often mail gets lost? its pretty damn rare, which brings me to my next point. theres a reason the us post office has a good reputation, its because when you send something, it goes where you sent it. would you have that assurance if devices were becoming common place that discarded what you sent?
email should be better than mail, it should be replacing mail as a communication portal.. but with filtering going mainstream I dont see this ever happening.
Unless you routinely send emails with subjects like "GET VIAGRA CHEAP NOW!!!"
everybody filters their inbound communications to some extent. screening phone calls, hanging up on telemarketers, fast forwarding commercials, not answering the door for those damn mormons.. but none of this is automated by a machine. the term false positive isn't even applicable in these situations (you were positive, thats why you made the decision)
spam is different because its driving people to automate what they throw away. this automation is causing a new problems.. its not a solution, and for many email marketers (not spammers) its a big one. I dont have a solution for spam, filtering imo is most definately not the answer.. hard to argue with people that are happy as clams NOT getting email, but hey what you dont know doesn't hurt you right?
of course I would expect someone who knew enough to download and install the software to use it responsibly, but again this is not most people.
I'm not worried about myself or most people who know a few things being bothered by spam. Personally I dont get but a couple a week because I know how to prevent from getting it in the first place.
the problem is the public, ie family, friends, _customers_ who I want to communicate to via email. when my message shows up in the possible spam box instead of the inbox, or doesn't show up at all.. I get pissed. you should to.
no matter how much you say you check that possible spam box, its not as often as you check your inbox.. but it should be, because if theres a chance that important messages are going to show up in either than what is the point of having both?
if your going to get a false positive why filter? as the hate for spam rises more people are saying fuck the false positive rate - which is a HUGE mistake.
why should I care of somebody is filtering THEIR email? because if im sending them a message, that is MY message.. if they don't see it then suddenly I have no voice.
spam is a real problem and filtering is not the solution.
you have a choice to use aol.. a million aol members using aol as an ISP do not have a choice who is hosting their @aol account, nor should they need to care.
If SPAM could somehow be filtered out at the router level, then I would agree with your USPO
exactly, its not possible.. but thats not stopping more and more companies from trying. and more and more people are starting to not get all their email, spam is bad but when I can't send my parents an email because they are on aol (or msn, or hotmail,...) then the threat of anti-spam is growing worse than spam itself
fact is, its impossible to determine if an email destined for your mail box is solicited or not. the server could tell you it just received 100,000 that look just like it.. but that doesn't change the fact that somebody sent you an email and you may or may not want to look at it.
unless you know for a fact that your not subscribed to any mailing lists so anything coming in bulk most definately isn't for you, then sure use the server's insight to filter those messages - but seriously there aren't many who fit in that category.
if you filter your email, you will get a false positive. its simply a matter of when.
have you considered using an asp marketing service? you could upload your templates/e-zines and your mailing list and schedule the deployment. depending on how much you send its probably cheaper than hosting your own server, plus you dont have to worry about being filtered or black listed. check out www.dynamicsdirect.com
your forgetting the 'last mile' so to speak. in other words, the actual email clients and end user's computers. not to mention countless hardware and embedded devices programmed to send email via smtp
problem is too many of you are deciding TO use it. AOL, Hotmail, MSN to name a few.. the 'want' to filter spam at the server level hurts legit email marketers, inconveniences recipients of legit email marketers, and to the parent's point - creates a target for spammers.
server side email filtering is BAD, BAD, BAD!
what if the US Post Office started throwing out your clearing house sweepstakes and credit card applications before you ever got them? problem is theres two kinds of people in the world.. those that say alright no more junk mail, and those that ask, how do you do that without getting a false positive once in a while?
Slashdot Mirror
thats the word I was looking for.. I think either one works
AFTER peeling off the pad?! you know your suppose to peel that off BEFORE you install the cpu, right?
according to the article you dont see the 33% improvement until you apply about twice the normal pressure. imagine the cracked cores
of 0.004% that thermal paste actually makes a difference
What industry standards?
not documented standards, more like de facto... but to name a few:
consistency across widgets
intuitive reaction to user-input
what would suprise the user the least (wwstustl)
and of course, keep it simple, stupid (kiss)
fyi, a whore is someone who posts seemingly insightful bullshit for the sake of getting modded up instead of contributing to a convo. in this case the whore posted a blatant broken shopping analogy that shows he obviously didn't read the article and doesn't give a shit about anything but getting positive moderations..
fuck moderations and fuck whores
fuckin whore, configure it to not startup with your system.. the next time you run it it will put the registry keys BACK
don't be a whore and rtfm
buy a car and make a big stink because you can't drive it, see if the dealership tells you to "learn how to drive, moron".. I think that is a better analogy than your mop handle shit, after all its a website not a wallmart.
ps, whore!
the file works.. its not broken, her fucking brain is broken because she can't figure this shit out.
real player is the epidemy of obtrusive software.. installing stealthily into your startup menu and autorun registry, putting icons on your desktop, task tray, start menu and control panel, associating itself with every godamn 'media' file format in the universe, and force feeding you ads and nagging you to upgrade
whats wrong with it? I guess it works. but its a dignity thing.. real player makes you it's bitch
thats what I was thinkin.. if I could goto a music site select some tracks, select the format, bitrate, medium, etc.. that would be money well spent. All my audio equipment is for mp3, if I have a music cd the only thing I do with it is rip it to mp3 and throw it away.. that bullshit makes me rather search kazaa.
I think I agree with their tech support.. if they give you a music file their obligation has been fullfilled. if you can't play it how is it their problem?
You might as well say that no-one should use mail, because your letter might get lost en-route
mail not reaching its destination is a lot different than taking a letter and throwing it away, or worse.. having a machine throw it away for you. btw, do you how often mail gets lost? its pretty damn rare, which brings me to my next point. theres a reason the us post office has a good reputation, its because when you send something, it goes where you sent it. would you have that assurance if devices were becoming common place that discarded what you sent?
email should be better than mail, it should be replacing mail as a communication portal.. but with filtering going mainstream I dont see this ever happening.
Unless you routinely send emails with subjects like "GET VIAGRA CHEAP NOW!!!"
everybody filters their inbound communications to some extent. screening phone calls, hanging up on telemarketers, fast forwarding commercials, not answering the door for those damn mormons.. but none of this is automated by a machine. the term false positive isn't even applicable in these situations (you were positive, thats why you made the decision)
spam is different because its driving people to automate what they throw away. this automation is causing a new problems.. its not a solution, and for many email marketers (not spammers) its a big one. I dont have a solution for spam, filtering imo is most definately not the answer.. hard to argue with people that are happy as clams NOT getting email, but hey what you dont know doesn't hurt you right?
the signals are not sent that way, its a side effect of the scanning beam.
YoU fAiL iT! ..sorry, just burning karma
of course I would expect someone who knew enough to download and install the software to use it responsibly, but again this is not most people.
I'm not worried about myself or most people who know a few things being bothered by spam. Personally I dont get but a couple a week because I know how to prevent from getting it in the first place.
the problem is the public, ie family, friends, _customers_ who I want to communicate to via email. when my message shows up in the possible spam box instead of the inbox, or doesn't show up at all.. I get pissed. you should to.
no matter how much you say you check that possible spam box, its not as often as you check your inbox.. but it should be, because if theres a chance that important messages are going to show up in either than what is the point of having both?
the point is filtering is bad.
if your going to get a false positive why filter?
as the hate for spam rises more people are saying fuck the false positive rate - which is a HUGE mistake.
why should I care of somebody is filtering THEIR email? because if im sending them a message, that is MY message.. if they don't see it then suddenly I have no voice.
spam is a real problem and filtering is not the solution.
you have a choice to use aol.. a million aol members using aol as an ISP do not have a choice who is hosting their @aol account, nor should they need to care.
...) then the threat of anti-spam is growing worse than spam itself
If SPAM could somehow be filtered out at the router level, then I would agree with your USPO
exactly, its not possible.. but thats not stopping more and more companies from trying. and more and more people are starting to not get all their email, spam is bad but when I can't send my parents an email because they are on aol (or msn, or hotmail,
once you have key P and A@hotmail whats to keep YOU from sending as A@hotmail?
talk about pulling a solution out've your ass, gotta love slashdot
fact is, its impossible to determine if an email destined for your mail box is solicited or not. the server could tell you it just received 100,000 that look just like it.. but that doesn't change the fact that somebody sent you an email and you may or may not want to look at it.
unless you know for a fact that your not subscribed to any mailing lists so anything coming in bulk most definately isn't for you, then sure use the server's insight to filter those messages - but seriously there aren't many who fit in that category.
if you filter your email, you will get a false positive. its simply a matter of when.
have you considered using an asp marketing service? you could upload your templates/e-zines and your mailing list and schedule the deployment. depending on how much you send its probably cheaper than hosting your own server, plus you dont have to worry about being filtered or black listed. check out www.dynamicsdirect.com
your forgetting the 'last mile' so to speak. in other words, the actual email clients and end user's computers. not to mention countless hardware and embedded devices programmed to send email via smtp
problem is too many of you are deciding TO use it. AOL, Hotmail, MSN to name a few.. the 'want' to filter spam at the server level hurts legit email marketers, inconveniences recipients of legit email marketers, and to the parent's point - creates a target for spammers.
server side email filtering is BAD, BAD, BAD!
what if the US Post Office started throwing out your clearing house sweepstakes and credit card applications before you ever got them? problem is theres two kinds of people in the world.. those that say alright no more junk mail, and those that ask, how do you do that without getting a false positive once in a while?
I should've mentioned it was a winblows box