> Any crack smoking fool can make CVS commits that fuck things up. It is a real mess.
This could be a problem with KDE too, however, it hasn't been so far.
> less time fretting about organisational issues and more time developing Gnome, maybe it would not be 2 years behind KDE now. People seem to brush this aside, but it is a major issue. Gnome is very far behind KDE and many parts of GNome are currently either horribly broken or simply unimplemented. Worse still, major API stuff is largely undocumented.
Yeah, GNOME seems to have too much of a bureaucracy. But this is what you get when you have a hodgepodge of companies/groups/interests working on a project. With KDE, in comparison, there seems to be more of a mentality that developers implement features that they want/will use, although a few developers do get paid by companies.
A lot of this is detailed in ESR's book, "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".
he made the license(s) that (most) things in GNOME is under. i'd call that involvement enough.
if he were to run, I think he'd have quite a possiblity to be elected. I think that there are pretty much enough of the zealots who go "GNU LINUX RMS RULEZ!!".
I think it's pretty trollish to call GNOME non-free, however I think RMS should admit/apologize for another event: the day when he basically lambasted KDE in his comment/response to the announcement that Qt had gone GPL. Although this was over a year ago, I think a GREAT deal of people still remember it.
I agree with you pretty much. I've been going between KDE, GNOME, and various window managers (usually used blackbox, E, or wmaker), in the last 4-5 years.
What I've noticed in the last year is that GNOME has lost much of it's momentum. I think this was pretty much because of two things.
1). Qt going GPL
2). KDE 2.x's (technical) improvements
Number 1) especially hurt the momentum that GNOME had. If you look at where the momentum started, you can primarily trace it to RMS and FSF's huge ideological starting of GNOME.
Now, I do see one way RMS could help GNOME. To bring back some of the momentum the it once had. It would be some kind of ideological movement once again.
Gobe wrote the precursor to Appleworks (i.e. claris works) Dropped or Sold? Dunno
Claris was sprung off from Apple. Claris then ported ClarisWorks to Windows. Claris also bought the popular FileMaker package. Claris was happy. Apple was not.
Apple joined in Claris again. This was a few months after ClarisWorks 5.0 came out. Some of the Claris developers decided not to work for Apple and left to form Gobe. Apple renamed ClarisWorks to AppleWorks and released a new version. Apple was happy. Gobe was happy.
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Well, they could always go for the crowd which wants something simpler than MS Office or StarOffice. Apple was very successful with this in AppleWorks. This was originally named ClarisWorks. The people from Gobe were Claris developers. See any connections?:-0
why would anyone use gnutella when they could use kazaa/morpheus (or kza and giFT on linux). The only users I can think of are Mac users with no kazaa clients. But then again, you could probably use giFT in MacOSX. Anyone wanna clue me in?
At least on the AMD side, it's a lot better than Intel. While they stuck with Socket 370 for a while, they are now changing socket/slot forms all the time (forcing new mobos). Just in a few months, with the Northwood, they are going to do it again.
It's the fault of the user/OEM if the heatsink is not properly put in. Even on Intel side, you still HAVE to use a heatsink (if you want to run at full speed). With a properly install heatsink, nothing will overheat on either side.
Besides, most athlon motherboards have had protection from this for a long time. For example, my motherboard (Abit KT133) automatically shuts down the computer if it detects that the fan on the heatsink is not working.
Also, Athlon XPs have builtin protection with this.
wolfeinstein test mp2 might be good and all, but it feels like another quake3 mods (after all, it's based upon the q3 engine), and not the best one at that. but i'd suggest looking at some of the other quake3 mods, such as:
urban terror
threewave
(and starting from nov. 14), reAction Quake3.
Yeah, but I'd just get a TI 89. You can find one from 149-199 dollars. It's VERY programmable, and even has tigcc. It's fun to play mario in it during class;-0
Either way, it will be the next generation x86 processor as well, wether or not people use the 64 bit stuff (which people will, if they sell it to a broad base market).
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> Any crack smoking fool can make CVS commits that fuck things up. It is a real mess.
This could be a problem with KDE too, however, it hasn't been so far.
> less time fretting about organisational issues and more time developing Gnome, maybe it would not be 2 years behind KDE now. People seem to brush this aside, but it is a major issue. Gnome is very far behind KDE and many parts of GNome are currently either horribly broken or simply unimplemented. Worse still, major API stuff is largely undocumented.
Yeah, GNOME seems to have too much of a bureaucracy. But this is what you get when you have a hodgepodge of companies/groups/interests working on a project. With KDE, in comparison, there seems to be more of a mentality that developers implement features that they want/will use, although a few developers do get paid by companies.
A lot of this is detailed in ESR's book, "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".
http://www.directfb.org is what you are looking for. there is a gtk+ port, and a Qt port will probably need to be done as a necessity.
:-)
that being said, X isn't the problem. We just need X extention development to go faster
he made the license(s) that (most) things in GNOME is under. i'd call that involvement enough.
if he were to run, I think he'd have quite a possiblity to be elected. I think that there are pretty much enough of the zealots who go "GNU LINUX RMS RULEZ!!".
I think it's pretty trollish to call GNOME non-free, however I think RMS should admit/apologize for another event: the day when he basically lambasted KDE in his comment/response to the announcement that Qt had gone GPL. Although this was over a year ago, I think a GREAT deal of people still remember it.
I agree with you pretty much. I've been going between KDE, GNOME, and various window managers (usually used blackbox, E, or wmaker), in the last 4-5 years.
What I've noticed in the last year is that GNOME has lost much of it's momentum. I think this was pretty much because of two things.
1). Qt going GPL
2). KDE 2.x's (technical) improvements
Number 1) especially hurt the momentum that GNOME had. If you look at where the momentum started, you can primarily trace it to RMS and FSF's huge ideological starting of GNOME.
Now, I do see one way RMS could help GNOME. To bring back some of the momentum the it once had. It would be some kind of ideological movement once again.
If the GNOME folks are not going to listen to RMS and he doesn't get on the board, what is he going to do?
Start the movement for ANOTHER desktop environment?
If he was crazy enough to do it once, don't think he wouldn't consider it twice.
A KDE port to OSX really has nothing do with C++ or C. Read the faq.
Evolution has become the Emacs of email clients ;-)
(not saying this is a bad thing, but I prefer vi)
But.. for the next generation of apps (games, especially), a 600mhz box will not cut it. a 1.2ghz one may. and 1.5-2ghz probably will.
Gobe wrote the precursor to Appleworks (i.e. claris works) Dropped or Sold? Dunno
Claris was sprung off from Apple. Claris then ported ClarisWorks to Windows. Claris also bought the popular FileMaker package. Claris was happy. Apple was not.
Apple joined in Claris again. This was a few months after ClarisWorks 5.0 came out. Some of the Claris developers decided not to work for Apple and left to form Gobe. Apple renamed ClarisWorks to AppleWorks and released a new version. Apple was happy. Gobe was happy.
Well, they could always go for the crowd which wants something simpler than MS Office or StarOffice. Apple was very successful with this in AppleWorks. This was originally named ClarisWorks. The people from Gobe were Claris developers. See any connections? :-0
why would anyone use gnutella when they could use kazaa/morpheus (or kza and giFT on linux). The only users I can think of are Mac users with no kazaa clients. But then again, you could probably use giFT in MacOSX. Anyone wanna clue me in?
At least on the AMD side, it's a lot better than Intel. While they stuck with Socket 370 for a while, they are now changing socket/slot forms all the time (forcing new mobos). Just in a few months, with the Northwood, they are going to do it again.
It's the fault of the user/OEM if the heatsink is not properly put in. Even on Intel side, you still HAVE to use a heatsink (if you want to run at full speed). With a properly install heatsink, nothing will overheat on either side.
Besides, most athlon motherboards have had protection from this for a long time. For example, my motherboard (Abit KT133) automatically shuts down the computer if it detects that the fan on the heatsink is not working.
Also, Athlon XPs have builtin protection with this.
wolfeinstein test mp2 might be good and all, but it feels like another quake3 mods (after all, it's based upon the q3 engine), and not the best one at that. but i'd suggest looking at some of the other quake3 mods, such as:
urban terror
threewave
(and starting from nov. 14), reAction Quake3.
Yeah, but I'd just get a TI 89. You can find one from 149-199 dollars. It's VERY programmable, and even has tigcc. It's fun to play mario in it during class ;-0
KDE. Don't mess with big buggy bloated gnome shit.
and guess what license kdelibs is under?
yup, right, the LGPL
and you CAN do this in unix with dcop, and in the future, bonobo.
> AppleScript as a scripting platform makes VBA and Unix Shell look horribly primitive (and MacPerl is available as well).
How do you figure? In my experience with all three, i'd say unix shells > vba > applescript.
Actually, an Itanium's x86 compatabity mode makes a PII or Pentium Pro look attractive.
Were there many 32 bit apps when 32 bit microprocessors were launched? Nope. So we should have never had any 32 bit microprocessors?
Create the processor, and the demand will come.
Yes, someday, you'll see your XFree 5.0 with KDE 4.0 desktop using 2gb of RAM at launch. Suddenly, 32 bit addressing starts to feel really small.
Which are recommended even for Intel chips.
one correction:
> and supports 511 GB of memory per process
One slimline kernel. 800k.
One vi session. 200k.
One gcc compile. 9000k.
One demand-loaded shared glibc. 3000k.
510.99 GB free virtual memory for a Windows XP install under VMware. Priceless.
Either way, it will be the next generation x86 processor as well, wether or not people use the 64 bit stuff (which people will, if they sell it to a broad base market).