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Real Time Gnutella Visualization
brett42 writes "Some students at Berkeley wrote a python program that connects to the Gnutella network and maps out connections between nodes in real time. " I gotta say thats pretty smooth. Hopefully future gnutella clients will incorporate something like this just for the time wasting potential of watching the graph wiggle while seeing what porn others are searching for.
I wonder what the RIAA would say when they came into work and found a huge colour printed Map like this on their desk?
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story..."
Gnutella never has worked well for me. File transfers are slow, and they always get cut off. It was all about Scour Exchange. :/
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." -- RFC 1925
...so soon Ill have to wait 4 hours instead of 2 for the latest Dave Matthews single. Gotta love wasted cpu cycles and bandwith....
Did you just grab my ass?
Given the enourmous scaling problems that gnutella has (plus the fact that 9 times out of ten if you download you get something from goatse.cx instead), shouldn't these people concentrate on improving the protocol rather than bogging it down even more?
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
why would anyone use gnutella when they could use kazaa/morpheus (or kza and giFT on linux). The only users I can think of are Mac users with no kazaa clients. But then again, you could probably use giFT in MacOSX. Anyone wanna clue me in?
Seems like you can d/l a lot of P2P porn, and get credit for it :P
My other sig is funny!
It doesn't run on Win XP...only way to resolve it seems to be to run Morpheus in a VMWare Win 98 session.
Hopefully future gnutella clients will incorporate something like this just for the time wasting potential of watching the graph wiggle while seeing what porn others are searching for.
This once more proves the power of plain text. I mean, what gives you more information in 1 second? A wiggle in a graph, or alt.sex.hamsters.ducktape ?
I intend to live forever, so far so good.
Well, here's our next generation of college-millionaires. They can sign a nice spiffy contract with the RIAA and mod this thing to spit out home addresses and phone numbers, complete with a detailed map for "physical evidence." Let's hope that's not as easy as it sounds and the RIAA never gets that capability.
~ now you know
These guys disected the Gnutella protocol and used the Furi interface (which provides network status screens and gives users info about nodes they're connected to) for their project. I was looking over the source code briefly and it looks very tight. It's nice to see college students interested and working on projects like these. If you go to the website and read over their final paper it is very interesting. You'll find a lot of stuff about the guts of Gnutella and what is unique about this project. They toyed with interfaces for a long time and rejected a great deal of them. It seems they spent a lot of time making this a very easy to use tool. They even worked hard on getting the color scheme down (hence this rejected scheme). Seeing a few people that are this poetic in refining their tools so that the user can use them best is rare.
The final visualization was createed with Python and Tkinter ("Tk interface"-- the de-facto Python interface to the Tk GUI toolkit). Tkinter is not the only GUI for Python. However, they chose it because it is commonly used and is easily portable between Unix and Windows (how thoughtful of them!)
the byproduct of years of oppression by the white man
I was just about to create YASCWF (Yet another screensaver with fractals). Now I guess I'll just use this map continually updating in the background...
(Yes I have a T1, no I _don't_ care about it wasting my bandwith.)
Karma? What's that again?
Karma? What's that again?
...get dirty pictures *off* the internet, but to the MPAA or RIAA this would be a dirty picture *of* the internet.
If it is not on fire, it is a software problem.
No, really, that sounds like a great way to allow ppl to slow the internet down a little bit more.
Could we integrate a 2 GIG mpeg that can be sent around to random locations when ppl aren't actually up/downloading so they can feel that they are still contributing to my cable connection sucking even more.
These file sharing programs are such hogs, do you need *that* much pr0n?
I guess you do...
http://monkeyserver.com --- weeeeee
This would make a cool screen saver.
Gnucleus(Win32) already supports something like that which uses a component by AT&T. You have to start it before connecting though. So I'm not sure, how RealTime it is compared to this script.
Gnucleus has had the ability to map gnutella nodes for months now. Runs under win32/WINE.
Now there's a utility to provide a map to your home so the feds can catch you [...]
No, not at all. It's just a tool to draw nice (?) maps, if that's your idea of entertainment.
Give credit to the feds - they don't need to wait until someone with too much time on their hands writes this kind of software.
According to section 3.3 of the gnuTellaVision Final Paper, gnuTellaVision uses pings with a TTL of 1 to find the neighbours of each node it has found. In other words, gnuTellaVision does use a little extra bandwidth.
On the other hand, it gets query data using the normal Gnutella procedure (i.e. a neighbour forwards queries to it). Of course, forwarding queries to an extra Gnutella node (the gnuTellaVision program) uses a little bandwidth too.
Is if this kind of technology was used for a new kind of music chart:
Top 100 pirated songs!
It would be doubly interesting to see if the same songs which were top of the 'real' charts, were also the top of the Gnutella charts. Maybe we could catch the record companies that buy their own records to boost their positions in the charts red-handed.
*r
--- My dad's political betting
pr0n!
mirror here.
Keep in mind that pornography literally means "A visual reproduction created solely for pleasure" Wouldn't the enjoyment of watching a graph wiggle be considered porn?
Similarly, school photos of your kid in your wallet constitutes child pornography.
Seriously though, I've always like this kind of thing. For example, the performance monitor graph is endlessly interesting to me. The modem lights on my roadrunner is interesting to me. I'd like something more interesting than the hourglass icon. One that fills up as the work is completed would be great. It would tell me how much longer I have to wait.
The Dopester
"Yes, I'm a Karma Whore, but I'm doing it to pay my way through school."
...doesn't it feel like demoliting redmond? :)
Scour Exchange was good.. but scour.net kicked even more ass... i remember going into work early just to download 40 songs in 5 minutes without any damn "app" to download... scour.net rewled... until of course it was overflowed by all those copycat music downloaders *after* me...
.*sigh*
oh well..
"When i was your age frankfurters only cost a nickel"
the official linux client - kza still works. I am using it now, but you can't use it to share files :-/
And the reliance on a proprietary protocol and a single server for authentication make it much more vulnerable than the gnutella network will ever be. That alone is reason enough to support gnutella which will win out over time after the RIAA and MPAA take out the kazaa network.
...aside from the fact I'm getting old and don't have a lot of time to waste searching for this stuff over Gnutella/bearshare/morpheus/etc and waiting forever for a file to download.
Cripes, I must be a dinosaur because I still use news servers and the occasional bout on IRC for fills.
I, personally, love it when someone (usually younger than I) says "I got a DivX of {insert name} last nite off of {insert client}".
"Oh, really", is my reply "I got a DivX of {movie a, b, and the first part of c} and a vcd of {movie d and e} last nite".
The looks of sheer bewilderment I get are too funny to describe at times (even from ppl I know to have cable modems).
Just goes to prove the old saying; "it is not the size of the wand (or 'pipe') but the magic in it".
Don't get me wrong, these clients do have their uses, I've used them but I just don't currently have a use/need for them.
Dang...my train of thought slipped the track a little.
I can't wait to see some of these maps and superimpose them over some of the thermographic maps I have available...no reason but investigation and curiosity.
If it is not on fire, it is a software problem.
Netmess is alaso a decentralized thing and it works through HTTP proxies and firewalls (at work for instance). It exists both for Linux and windows natively. http://netmess.multimania.com/
I turned my server off. I was tired of all the deadbeats abusing it. I could almost never get a successful transfer, or people didn't share.
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For a group project, even though it is a CS group, I think they did a great job of laying everything out.
/.................../ \\
In my many... uh... months of using Bearshare, I don't think I ever once saw a query list that was as clean as the one in their screenshot. I only count four porn searches, and none of them have anything obscene in the query. Nice job, guys.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
Don't think the RIAA isn't stupid enough to go after some end users. It just hasn't been practical so far to get evidence. Now they can point to P2P traffic maps as probable cause.
Our efforts are paying off in fighting this disease called "l33t speak".
In out time, we'll wipe out this idiotic, hacker wanna-be, script kiddie morons who think they're special when they type things like a moron.
But we must remain vigilant!
potential of watching the graph wiggle while seeing what porn others are searching for
This is already a fairly interesting utility. Turn on the "view search" option on your favorite gnutella client (Limewire on OS X for me) and check out how specific people's porn searches can be.
"Asian nurse enema big boobs midget amputee smoking."
I guess there really is something for everyone on this new fangled internet thing.
--saint
My ISP just called. A Hollywood detective agency had contacted them and informed, that a dynamic IP address once given to my cable modem had had Gnutella running at some point in time and it had shared some episodes of Futurama. And now they are after me.
Note that I live in Finland, so I guess somebody has decided to mount a large scale attack against global peer-to-peer piracy.
Anssi Porttikivi / app@iki.fi
To the uninitiated..
Indeed newsgroups are great for downloading...
+Extreme speed - you're downloading directly from your ISP's news server
+LOTS of files available, from games to movies to music to p0rn.
-You can only download what happens to be posted at any given time... Harder to search for a specific item
-Missing parts sometimes. Large files are split up into 20MB parts, and sometimes some parts are incomplete and hence don't get through. Recently, though, people are starting to upload Parity Archives along with the main archives, which means that if you're missing a file, you can reconstruct it based on the other files and the parity archive! very cool... this makes the missing archives problem much less of an issue. But then, there's always IRC for fills.
Andre060
I've got a Merriam-Webster dictionary which explains the etymology of "pornography" as "Gk pornographos writing of harlots", the definition of which is not nearly as broad as yours:
the depiction of erotic behavior designed primarily to cause sexual excitement.
The online Merriam-Webster dictionary concurs.
Similarly, school photos of your kid in your wallet constitutes child pornography.
Now you really need to review the proper definition of the word before you tell someone that, or risk getting a fat lip (or worse).
I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
but I can't get this to run. Any ideas?
[root@set gtv]# rpm -qa | grep python | sort
libpython2.1-2.1.1-5mdk
libpython2.1-devel-2.1.1-5mdk
python-2.1.1-5mdk
python-docs-2.1.1-5mdk
python-imaging-1.1.2-3mdk
pythonlib-1.28-1mdk
python-numeric-20.1.0-2mdk
python-numeric-devel-20.1.0-2mdk
rpm-python-4.0.3-0.28mdk
[root@set gtv]# python gtv.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gtv.py", line 3, in ?
import gnut, time, sys, math, host, os
ImportError: Bad magic number in gnut.pyc
Any ideas?
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
Hopefully future gnutella clients will incorporate something like this just for the time wasting potential of watching the graph wiggle while seeing what porn others are searching for.
The clearer minded thinker would harness the wiggling power of the graph to the porn itself. Replace bars in a time-series that represent increase/decrease in activity with stills from a porno and you've creating an animated minimovie with near-random sequence. Thus the medium becomes the massage! Finally you can show your boss just how badly your network is getting screwed in imagery he can relate to.
The paper really spends most of its time talking about how they settled on the color scheme or arrangement of the circles on the graphs. This is perhaps more relevant in the context of the class the authors were taking. They spend only a few very short paragraphs on what they actually discovered or what could be discovered, and there were no real numbers presented.
A much more interesting article is here. It discusses a number of findings about Gnutella usage in the context of the famous "Tragedy of the Commons" dilemma commonly studied by economists, and the ramifications these findings have for the long term viability of Gnutella networks.
We all know the old saying:
"A text says more than a 1000 graphs"
... well, sort-of - MyNapster is a Win32 combined gnutella client plus extra services, and does this (non-real time); indeed, IIRC, it uses graphing software licenced from AT&T labs or somesuch.
James F.
WinXP upgrade checker even picks up Morpheus as an incompatible program (warns you that there might be problems running the app) and sure enough, it doesn't run. You either haven't used Win XP , haven't used Morpheus, or are just a pro-MS troll like ZicoKnows.
It's not in the Gnutella protocol:
t oc ol_0.4.pdf
l ) and see what's going on? That's usually pretty definitive. :^)
http://www9.limewire.com/developer/gnutella_pro
The protocol (unfortunately, imo) doesn't say anything about how a search should be run, however. Somewhat of a shame that proprietary search schemes might have already cropped up. If I were writing a client from scratch using only the protocol, I already wouldn't give you the same searching functionality as Limewire, which is a bummer.
Looks like the only other option is to check out the Limewire source (http://www.limewire.org/project/www/download.htm
It's all 0s and 1s. Or it's not.
...kind of porn users are getting (using www.linuks.mine.nu/porn-get ?) and that's www.freshmeat.net/projects/driftnet
Windoze not found: (C)heer, (P)arty or (D)ance
Gotta love them girls who do some webcam stripteases for their long distance boyfriends who then dump the hoes and share the vid with all their friends who put it on Gnutella.... just try searching for "college mpg" or "college avi" and see what I mean!
I was thinking about taking a look at the source too, maybe I'll do that tonight and see what I find, although my Java skills are minimal...but my first guess is that it maybe something they do on the client end once the app. receives the search results, like how you can filter on connection speeds and the 'star rating', because Limewire does state that their app. is "compatible with the Gnutella file-sharing protocol and can connect with anyone else running Gnutella-compatible software." Although as we all know, compatible does not always mean 100% compliant.
"Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
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Another possible solution to this problem is the transformation of what is
effectively a public good into a private one. This can be accomplished by setting
up a market based architecture that allows peers to buy and sell computer
processing resources, very much in the spirit in which Spawn was created
He seems to be mellowing a bit; at least in that paper he considers other solutions.Actually, if you run into the "tragedy of the commons" problem, it's usually because the protocol mishandles scaling. See my ancient RFC 970, where I pointed this out back in 1985. Gnutilla is generally acknowledged to have scaling problems.
As for the economic analysis, market enthusiasts tend to ignore that markets both increase transaction costs and consume attention. Some goods are too cheap to charge for, because the costs of pricing, charging, billing, accounting, advertising, and marketing exceed the cost of the goods themselves. This is why the Internet beat out the pay-per-bit services.
Worse, there's the problem of limited attention. If something is charged for, the buyer has to pay attention to its cost and how much they're using. That attention is a limited resource, and people hate wasting it on little stuff. This is why consumer Internet services moved from per-hour to flat rate.
Uhhhhh...hyuk hyuk! I mean here.
Forgot to QA my own post!
**>>BELCH
not sure if we all slasdotted gnutellashosts but I found that if you edit line 21 of gtv.py and replace
addr = socket.gethostbyname('gnutellahsots.com')
with
addr = socket.gethostbyname('router.limewire.com')
it also works.
glad you like it.
-- snowlight
99% of the time i cant find "that" file 99% of the 1% unsucessfully downloads. With a good map of the network I "should" be able to find "that" file But limewire and XOLOX do seem to be the most reliable cleints so far. (no spyware too)
The Unanonymous Coward
y35 j00 h4v3 4 p01n+
could this be used to map out locations of users so the RIAA or whoever else could monitor the users?
I was a very big fan of KaZaA, but recently it has fallen into my bad books, and looks likely to stay there. Oh well, I'm sure there is a decent file sharing app just around the corner. eg, mojonation is getting close to v1.0 release.
The reason I dislike KaZaA is that they force you to upgrade to a spyware/adware infested version, even going to the length of changing the protocol so that older clients have a choice of spyware, or no service. The second reason I dislike KaZaA is that they now put family filters in. Which is bad a) cause I can no longer get multi-stream pron download, and b) opens them up to having to filter out copyrighted stuff (they already filter, so what is a bit more to filter out, at least that is what the judge is going to say).
First off, usenet is great for downloading warez in its various forms, though you need to have access to a good news server. Something that is difficult to do, so most die hards use for-pay usenet access.
Secondly, what are these parity archives? I did a couple of quick google searches but came up blank.
Is it anything like the Information Dispersal Algorithm that some P2P apps use? Any info would be appreciated, because then I could submit the idea to the bookwarez scene, where I hang out.
Is that you? I haven't seen you in a long time. Way back in the inchfan days. Your typing could do with some improvement, though I suppose there is a reason for that -- typing one handed is difficult. As for NP picks, google should serve you well.