I'm not saying the parent deserves favorable moderation. But lets look at the definition of troll in the moderator guidelines:
Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time.
All this guy did was say that he thought the tracking system was a good idea, and he promptly got slapped with a troll moderation, which he clearly is not, given the definition. He's even on topic. The worst you should do is moderate him overrated, which doesn't have the associated knocking of the poster that troll does.
This guy openly states that he thinks this is a good idea. How is this a troll?
Wait, I have the answer. It is against the party line here on Slashdot. Anyone who thinks tracking anything is obviously trolling.
New moderator rules: There will be no difference of opinion here on Slashdot. To become a moderator, you must become deeply familiar with the doctorine that Slashdot pushes. You must post pro-Slashdot-ideology to a number of stories. You're posts will be reviewed by those who have been deemed trustworthy. Once you have proven yourself acceptable, you will be given moderator access. At that point, you should mod down those with different opinions, and mod up those who push our agenda. If you are caught in violation, moderator access will be permanently removed.
Yep, mod me troll, I am prepared. However, I am sick of this and am taking an open stand.
since hydrogen burns so hot you can't see the flames
So that explains why it is so hot in here. My rigt idex figer as st bred off.
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OK, you make a valid point that journalists should not always be taken at word. My only point was that I don't believe this guy should be moderated as troll and flamebait for saying that he thinks x86 architecture is in the future. He does have a point, no matter how invalid you may believe it is.
A quote from an article pertaining to Apple's recent share holder meeting:
At the company's shareholder meeting in April, however, Jobs asserted that Apple has "no plans" for a switch to Intel. When a shareholder argued that a move could be beneficial to the company, Jobs replied, "That is an opinion."
This is amongst discussion about internal projects at Apple that involve porting Darwin to x86.
First, let me state that I am an avid supporter of Apple, I love their stuff. However, I am less than enthused by most of the rabid Apple followers. It's a religion so feverishly followed that any speculation is considered fallacy. If it doesn't come from the mouth of the highest power, Steve Jobs, it should be ignored.
People speculate in their comments posted to slashdot all the time. Under normal circumstances, they get moderated up as Insightful or Interesting. Speculation on Apple promptly gets moderated down as Troll by the people who save points waiting for Apple stories so they can squash the thoughts of false prophets.
Anyway, see my amendment to my comment. I don't think the poster is all that intelligent with regard to his knowledge of Apple. But, the comment does not deserve troll or flamebait. Leave it unmoderated if you don't like it. Or give it an Overrated if you feel so strongly.
The first time I read the comment, I never noticed the Linux-based OS statement. Clearly he is clueless on issues surrounding Mac OS X. However, the x86 card does hold some water, even if very little. I think troll and flamebait is a bit harsh. Leave it unmoderated at best.
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I can't beleive that posts that get unfairly moderated in the Apple section. I mean, come on, this guy is not trolling. Speculation about Apple switching to x86 has been going on for a while, and in plenty of well respected sites.
Anyway, just had to stand up for the parent poster and point out a percieved wrong. Go ahead and mod me troll. I can handle it.
Microsoft waited to release these figures until after MSBlaster had spread significantly. Before this worm, the problem was more on the order of 90% Microsoft's fault, and 10% third-party. What with computers crashing the minute their connected directly to the Internet now days, the figure has balanced out.
Thanks for the corrections. You learn something new everyday.
And, yes, the post was edited to correct the missing end-italic tag. The original post made every other article on the front page italicized. So was the article text on the full story page.
The other reply to my post was informing people of this prior error. I immediately riduculed him, because I thought he simply did not get my joke. I was then placed in my own shoes by a couple more people. Oh well, a time for everything.
Well, libraries provide the means for piracy (photocopiers). At least in my area.
Well, I joined this conversation late, but you're logic is so severely flawed that I had to chime in.
You can draw lines anywhere, and point to means, causes, and effects. However that does not mean the blame lies at the furthest point down the line.
I know it gets tried in court fairly often, but the gun manufacturer is not resposible for the killer murdering someone. In a more exagerated example, take the illegal distribution of music. If we were to follow you're logic, we should blame the music companies and the RIAA, since they are the ones funding the production of the CDs. Ha! The suggestion is laughable.
The library simply loans out books to its patrons. I'm still not quite sure what your fundamental point is, but it is ridiculous to assert that the library is partially at fault if someone copies the book they lend them.
I don't believe that too many phones have a GPS chip. They use triangulation to figure out you're location based on the signal strength relative to a bunch of different cellular towers. You can do this with just about any radio technology, given at least 3 points.
Anyway, this technology is in effect so long as you're phone is turned on. Breaking any chips inside will give you a nice paperweight. If you don't want to be tracked, ditch your phone or turn it off.
Some of us don't live our lives based on what some organization tell us to do, and organization which has its own problems and idiosyncracies. I'd prefer to save $10, and do something useful with it, like donating to groups pushing for modernizing patent laws.
To be more concrete on the issue: The problem is not that Amazon obtained a patent to one-click shopping. The problem is with the system for granting them the patent. If I were to boycott every company that holds broad patents, I would be left with very few commercial choices. I won't boycott a company for doing everything they can legally do to gain competitive advantage, that is their responsiblity to their shareholders.
The audio system on the new Palm devices sounds remarkably good, all things considered. I own a Tungsten|T, and MP3 plays sounds OK on it. It's no expensive stereo with surround sound, but from a mobile device it is more than acceptable.
The cheese voice is going to result from a limited vocabulary size, due to the limited memory on a Palm. As noted in one article, the device does not say street names. If some decent sounding voice systhesis engine could be put on Palm OS, that would make voice commands much, much more practicle.
That is really funny, you deserve mod points. I have never noticed that before. At first I was afraid to click the link, knowing what kind of popups are associated with hacking pages (and I am at work). The link is safe however, for all you people in my boat, and it is worth a good laugh.
Did they release the modified GCC? Somehow I doubt they put gcc on the access point. Since they did not release the binary, they don't need to release the source.
If it was LinkSys who modified GCC and used it as their own compiler (and did not distribute it), then now, they do not need to release the source.
However, the authors speculation was that it was Broadcom who modified GCC to produce code for their own chip, the BCM4710. If Broadcom was distributing the modified compiler as part of an SDK to third-party developers using the chip, then Broadcom would have to release their changes.
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No, the value of everything in my existence is *not* determined by the amount of suspense it offers.
However, I don't think I am going to be reading this book for its literary prowess.
Hmm... an article where 90% of the comments are from people bitching about giving away the ending, and people asking the editors to actually edit the content (wishful thinking, I know). 1 comment where the endings to many great movies are given away, that gets modded up to +5 so everyone will see it.
Only on Slashdot...
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I once went to a website, not sure which now, which printed a notice saying spoilers condtained below this message. The spoilers themselves would then be printed in the same color as the background to the webpage. Instructions notified you that if you wanted to read the spoilers, just highlight the text. If you did not, just go on your merry way.
Slashdot should really do something like this. As I was reading the review, my interest really picked up. Man, I should go check this book out, I thought. Then bam, the whole end revealed in the last two sentences. Well, not much suspense in the book anymore, might as well skip it.
I made a LEGO MindStorms robot that would hit "Print Screen" at exactly 29.97 frames per second to do just this. A small utility program I wrote then writes a bitmap of a screen out to a file on disc. A little splicing and encoding, and *ta-da*, a never expiring movie.
I nearly shot myself when I found out I could pipe the screen to my VCR through S-Video.
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I'm not saying the parent deserves favorable moderation. But lets look at the definition of troll in the moderator guidelines:
Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time.
All this guy did was say that he thought the tracking system was a good idea, and he promptly got slapped with a troll moderation, which he clearly is not, given the definition. He's even on topic. The worst you should do is moderate him overrated, which doesn't have the associated knocking of the poster that troll does.
This guy openly states that he thinks this is a good idea. How is this a troll?
Wait, I have the answer. It is against the party line here on Slashdot. Anyone who thinks tracking anything is obviously trolling.
New moderator rules:
There will be no difference of opinion here on Slashdot. To become a moderator, you must become deeply familiar with the doctorine that Slashdot pushes. You must post pro-Slashdot-ideology to a number of stories. You're posts will be reviewed by those who have been deemed trustworthy. Once you have proven yourself acceptable, you will be given moderator access. At that point, you should mod down those with different opinions, and mod up those who push our agenda. If you are caught in violation, moderator access will be permanently removed.
Yep, mod me troll, I am prepared. However, I am sick of this and am taking an open stand.
since hydrogen burns so hot you can't see the flames
So that explains why it is so hot in here. My rigt idex figer as st bred off.
OK, you make a valid point that journalists should not always be taken at word. My only point was that I don't believe this guy should be moderated as troll and flamebait for saying that he thinks x86 architecture is in the future. He does have a point, no matter how invalid you may believe it is.
A quote from an article pertaining to Apple's recent share holder meeting:
At the company's shareholder meeting in April, however, Jobs asserted that Apple has "no plans" for a switch to Intel. When a shareholder argued that a move could be beneficial to the company, Jobs replied, "That is an opinion."
This is amongst discussion about internal projects at Apple that involve porting Darwin to x86.
First, let me state that I am an avid supporter of Apple, I love their stuff. However, I am less than enthused by most of the rabid Apple followers. It's a religion so feverishly followed that any speculation is considered fallacy. If it doesn't come from the mouth of the highest power, Steve Jobs, it should be ignored.
People speculate in their comments posted to slashdot all the time. Under normal circumstances, they get moderated up as Insightful or Interesting. Speculation on Apple promptly gets moderated down as Troll by the people who save points waiting for Apple stories so they can squash the thoughts of false prophets.
Anyway, see my amendment to my comment. I don't think the poster is all that intelligent with regard to his knowledge of Apple. But, the comment does not deserve troll or flamebait. Leave it unmoderated if you don't like it. Or give it an Overrated if you feel so strongly.
The first time I read the comment, I never noticed the Linux-based OS statement. Clearly he is clueless on issues surrounding Mac OS X. However, the x86 card does hold some water, even if very little. I think troll and flamebait is a bit harsh. Leave it unmoderated at best.
I can't beleive that posts that get unfairly moderated in the Apple section. I mean, come on, this guy is not trolling. Speculation about Apple switching to x86 has been going on for a while, and in plenty of well respected sites.
Anyway, just had to stand up for the parent poster and point out a percieved wrong. Go ahead and mod me troll. I can handle it.
I believe you are the first person to ever get an Informative mod for a YOU FAIL IT style post. May I please have the same for pointing this out?
How many jobs have to be lost before you go away?
Answer: 1
Reason: When he loses his job, he will go away.
Microsoft waited to release these figures until after MSBlaster had spread significantly. Before this worm, the problem was more on the order of 90% Microsoft's fault, and 10% third-party. What with computers crashing the minute their connected directly to the Internet now days, the figure has balanced out.
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Thanks for the corrections. You learn something new everyday.
And, yes, the post was edited to correct the missing end-italic tag. The original post made every other article on the front page italicized. So was the article text on the full story page.
The other reply to my post was informing people of this prior error. I immediately riduculed him, because I thought he simply did not get my joke. I was then placed in my own shoes by a couple more people. Oh well, a time for everything.
My life expectancy better start going up real quick. It is going to take me a while to figure out what you just said.
I already know this. That is what my joke was making reference to. I will spell it out for you: oh - bee - vee - eye - oh - you - es.
1. Though shalt end your italic tags.
Well, libraries provide the means for piracy (photocopiers). At least in my area.
Well, I joined this conversation late, but you're logic is so severely flawed that I had to chime in.
You can draw lines anywhere, and point to means, causes, and effects. However that does not mean the blame lies at the furthest point down the line.
I know it gets tried in court fairly often, but the gun manufacturer is not resposible for the killer murdering someone. In a more exagerated example, take the illegal distribution of music. If we were to follow you're logic, we should blame the music companies and the RIAA, since they are the ones funding the production of the CDs. Ha! The suggestion is laughable.
The library simply loans out books to its patrons. I'm still not quite sure what your fundamental point is, but it is ridiculous to assert that the library is partially at fault if someone copies the book they lend them.
I don't believe that too many phones have a GPS chip. They use triangulation to figure out you're location based on the signal strength relative to a bunch of different cellular towers. You can do this with just about any radio technology, given at least 3 points.
Anyway, this technology is in effect so long as you're phone is turned on. Breaking any chips inside will give you a nice paperweight. If you don't want to be tracked, ditch your phone or turn it off.
Some of us don't live our lives based on what some organization tell us to do, and organization which has its own problems and idiosyncracies. I'd prefer to save $10, and do something useful with it, like donating to groups pushing for modernizing patent laws.
To be more concrete on the issue: The problem is not that Amazon obtained a patent to one-click shopping. The problem is with the system for granting them the patent. If I were to boycott every company that holds broad patents, I would be left with very few commercial choices. I won't boycott a company for doing everything they can legally do to gain competitive advantage, that is their responsiblity to their shareholders.
The audio system on the new Palm devices sounds remarkably good, all things considered. I own a Tungsten|T, and MP3 plays sounds OK on it. It's no expensive stereo with surround sound, but from a mobile device it is more than acceptable.
The cheese voice is going to result from a limited vocabulary size, due to the limited memory on a Palm. As noted in one article, the device does not say street names. If some decent sounding voice systhesis engine could be put on Palm OS, that would make voice commands much, much more practicle.
That is really funny, you deserve mod points. I have never noticed that before. At first I was afraid to click the link, knowing what kind of popups are associated with hacking pages (and I am at work). The link is safe however, for all you people in my boat, and it is worth a good laugh.
You should really use something other than '*' for your password. It is far to easy to guess. Just a suggestion
Did they release the modified GCC? Somehow I doubt they put gcc on the access point. Since they did not release the binary, they don't need to release the source.
If it was LinkSys who modified GCC and used it as their own compiler (and did not distribute it), then now, they do not need to release the source.
However, the authors speculation was that it was Broadcom who modified GCC to produce code for their own chip, the BCM4710. If Broadcom was distributing the modified compiler as part of an SDK to third-party developers using the chip, then Broadcom would have to release their changes.
No, the value of everything in my existence is *not* determined by the amount of suspense it offers.
However, I don't think I am going to be reading this book for its literary prowess.
Hmm... an article where 90% of the comments are from people bitching about giving away the ending, and people asking the editors to actually edit the content (wishful thinking, I know). 1 comment where the endings to many great movies are given away, that gets modded up to +5 so everyone will see it.
Only on Slashdot...
I once went to a website, not sure which now, which printed a notice saying spoilers condtained below this message. The spoilers themselves would then be printed in the same color as the background to the webpage. Instructions notified you that if you wanted to read the spoilers, just highlight the text. If you did not, just go on your merry way.
Slashdot should really do something like this. As I was reading the review, my interest really picked up. Man, I should go check this book out, I thought. Then bam, the whole end revealed in the last two sentences. Well, not much suspense in the book anymore, might as well skip it.
I made a LEGO MindStorms robot that would hit "Print Screen" at exactly 29.97 frames per second to do just this. A small utility program I wrote then writes a bitmap of a screen out to a file on disc. A little splicing and encoding, and *ta-da*, a never expiring movie.
I nearly shot myself when I found out I could pipe the screen to my VCR through S-Video.