I thought that they stopped making MATLAB for Macs in general. Just OS 9 perhaps?
The MathWorks Announces Support for Mac OS X
MATLAB's return to the Mac meets growing demand from scientific and engineering communities
Natick, MA - (5/6/2002) The MathWorks today announced its intention to make MATLAB, the industry's leading technical computing software, available on Mac OS X, Apple's advanced Unix-based operating system, with the next release of the MathWorks product line. With MATLAB on Mac OS X, users will be able to use powerful, sophisticated technical computing tools in a graphical and intuitive environment.
"I'm really pleased to be able to announce The MathWorks renewed support for Apple and particularly Mac OS X," said Cleve Moler, Chairman and Chief Scientist at The MathWorks and the original author of MATLAB. "The Macintosh has a strong following among scientists and educators, and we're glad to be back."
"Having MATLAB back on the Mac is tremendous for Apple's scientific and engineering customers," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "This is a perfect example of how developers are taking advantage of Mac OS X's Unix core combined with industry standards like OpenGL and Java."
Pricing and availability will be announced prior to the first commercial shipment of the next release of The MathWorks product line. The release of the company's full line of MATLAB and Simulink products for computation, programming and embedded systems design is expected later this year.
Don't try to apply the 21st century definition of Militia to a doccument written in 18th century. In 1789 the Militia consisted of ALL adult male citizens. I Can quote the Second admendment, as well as other things from Revoulantary America.
Well, you summed it up. We don't live in 1789 and we are not in a revolution, which is clearly what they were referring to as "tyranny in government." In Israel all males are expected to serve in the army. That could be considered a modern form of Militia. But this is the US and we don't do that. And we would probably make a stink if the US Government wanted to do that.
Plus they did not have people using muskets to hold up liquor stores back then. We have far too many "ruffians." And these ruffians have way too easy access to hand guns. They didn't have police either. None of that stuff applies, including the need for a Militia.
Was anyone in your family ever murdered? I doubt my 86 year old mother having a hand gun would have made any difference, but it helped the person that killed her.
The second admendment protects the right to keep and bear arms
Not really. Can you quote the second admendment?
"Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
People always like to quote the line "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms" but they always leave out the part about "a well regulated Militia"... that qualifier means a government regulated armed forces... we already have one. No where does it state the general public, which is not regulated, or a militia, can bear arms.
I hear people say they find performance acceptable on these machines.. well, you must enjoy your web browsers not being able to scroll smoothly and waiting minutes for apps to start up, but i sure don't.
I don't have this problem, and I'm running on a G4/466 with a gig of RAM. You aren't using UFS are you? My web browser (Mozilla and IE 5.2.1) can scroll faster than I can see, and apps launch in a few bounces. Jaguar (10.2) is supposed to be MUCH faster anyway.
One day, Adobe will port Photoshop to UNIX
Adobe has had a UNIX version of Photoshop for a long time... well for IRIX anyway. I used to use it on a SGI Indy... It sucked. It was way faster on a 9500
If you worked in my production department and opened an 900 MB TIFF file from OFF THE APPLESHARE FILE SERVER I'd probably fire you.
Macs come with 60 gig ATA hard disks now. How dumb can you be not to copy the file to local storage before editing it? Real publishing houses also use OPI servers to generate lo-res placement files (FPOs) so they can edit the pages at screen dpi (72-96) and have the changes reflected on the RIP at press dpi (1016-4800 dpi) with the burden placed on the OPI server to merge in the hires (not your mac). Distiller also works well to reduce ridiculously huge graphics to a managable PDF file without much visible loss in quality (with the right Distiller settings). Most apps will let you place a PDF in a document and do operations on it, just like an EPS. 1 MB per color layer at 1200 for a newspaper page (13x22") seems to be about average at the two newspapers I worked at. Much easier to work with. You might find your work goes a little quicker.
Some companies, like Bowne (largest financial printer in the world) don't allow you to copy ANY files onto your local hard drive. I have a friend that works there, and all files are handled from a server. Yes, they use OPI, but if you have to edit the image, you obviously have to work with the real file. Other friends I know work in similar situations. The Macs have software installed to prevent any files from being copied, even to the desktop!
PDF files are a hit-or-miss proposition. If the operator knows what they are doing, then they usually work fine... but spot colors and even bleeds can be problematic when the PDF file is made incorrectly.
I agree that it's stupid to have to work with big files off a server, but some shops make you do that. I run the Mac dept where I work so we don't do such things!
And that's 130,000 people who won't buy Wintel PCs when they decide to upgrade. New hardware, even pricey PowerMacs, are nothing compared to the cost of retraining people who make a lot of money.
You mean 70,000. There are 130k copies already running on Macs, and about 70k on PCs.
I agree with you however about the software platform. Unless they are just hobbiest.
Deck is a great program...I've been trying to pick up a copy of my own for a while. Deck is more than adequate as a replacement for ProTools than is Logic.
Deck is a wonderful multitrack program, with only one flaw, albeit a major one if you reply on MIDI sequencing.... It doesn't.
Deck was the original software that came with Digidesign hardware. Then when Macs got native audio support built in, OSC (you've got to love that name... Our Stinking Company!) gave it native Apple SoundManager support.
I was a DECK II user from right after Macromedia bought the program from OSC. I had to run Metro synched up to DECK for the MIDI. It still works that way, now Cakewalk owns Metro.
I switched to CubaseVST when BIAS was taking way too long to get sound card support (for anything other than the Korg 1212) into Deck.
What about iMovie and Final Cut Pro? I forget what Apple bought to get the core guts of these apps going...but whatever it was, if they had cut off the Windows versions to do it, would you still call it stupid after the sucess of the resulting products? I don't see how you can.
FCP was being developed by Macromedia. I don't think it ever had a name, and I'm sure MM would have made a Windows version.
200,000 users. For Microsoft to lose those customers is a mild annoyance. For Apple it's a huge gain, as they get to sell them several hundred million dollars worth of hardware.
65% of those 200,000 already ran Logic on Macs, that's about 130,000 Mac versions VS 70,000 Windows versions.
This will probably mean that the Macintosh version of Cubase will die...
Why? Apple is not forcing anyone to use Logic. And I seriously doubt they will bundle it as an "iApp." Steinberg just started taking preorders for Cubase SX for OS X.
I'm a musician of about 35 years, and a Mac user since 1994, and I use Cubase.
Apple wants to be like SGI back when you had to buy one to run SoftImage and Flame...
Anyway, a lot of these places use pro-tools as well, which works much better on the mac (the pc version is the most ugly unusable piece of cr*p I've ever had the misfortune to play with, then again so's the mac version, just slightly less so...give me a soundscape red system anyday!!!)
Which is why so many people use Logic with Digi hardware:)
The XServe is a server - and 50% of this benchmark test is rating how fast it opens up files in Photoshop? WHO CARES! Its a server, tell me how much faster it is at routing mail, serving files through apache, backing up data, etc. benchmark it doing things that a server does! This benchmark is useless IMHO.
A FILE server, serves files. XServe is not a web server, or a mail server, but it can do those things. As I said before, in a lot of very large print companies, all live jobs are on a central file server. So you log in and open these files off the server. They might be huge 900 MB TIFF files, or a QuarkXPress file with many EPS and TIFF files in it. This is real world, day-to-day work for people like my self.
This goofy special-function 'serve big graphic files up to Macs' benchmark is NOT a 'production file server' task. So what the heck?
It is in a lot of big printing and publishing shops, like Bowne. All the live job files, and even a lot of the software, like Quark and Photoshop, reside on servers. And you cant even copy files to your local workstation, due to software installed on those Macs to prevent you from installing stuff.
So timing how long it tales to open a 900 MB TIFF file off the server is day to day work for many of us.
Comment on what you know about, please.
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There is a reason that IBM's Deep Blue was not a P3 1Ghz - it needed tons of CPU power to compete with Kasparov.
I believe the original Deep Blue used PowerPC 604e CPUs. The newer version is a 32-node RS/6000.
"Deep Blue is not only the finest chess-playing computer in the world, it is also the fastest. This makes perfect sense, because history has proven that the fastest computers conduct the most extensive searches into possible positions. More searches gives the computer a wider array of moves to choose from and therefore a greater chance of choosing the optimum move."
"Deep Blue uses 'live' software that can actually generate up to 200,000,000 positions per second when searching for the optimum move. The software begins this process by taking a strategic look at the board. It then computes everything it knows about the current position, integrates the chess information pre-programmed by the development team, and then generates a multitude of new possible arrangements. From these, it then chooses its best possible next move."
"The software inside of Deep Blue is one all-inclusive program written in C, running under the AIX operating system. Deep Blue utilizes the IBM SP Parallel System called MPI. 'It's a message-passing system,' says Hoane. 'So the search is just all control logic. You're passing control messages back and forth that say, well, what am I doing? Did you finish this? OK, here's your next job. That kind of thing at the SP level.'"
"The latest iteration of the Deep Blue computer is a 32-node IBM RS/6000 SP high-performance computer, which utilizes the new Power Two Super Chip processors (P2SC). Each node of the SP employs a single microchannel card containing 8 dedicated VLSI chess processors, for a total of 256 processors working in tandem. The net result is a scalable, highly parallel system capable of calculating 60 billion moves within three minutes, which is the time allotted to each player's move in classical chess."
No, I was referring to the companies that made them. Dell, Compaq, GW2K. But if you want to count each processer separately, I guess that makes even more platforms.
That's still ONE platform... x86. If you are using that reasoning, then Windows is a platform. How many companies make Windows? One.
How many compnaies make SGI or Sun computers?
All the people who think they have more choices because they build their own PC is missing one big point. You can only build one kind of computer, an "IBM clone" based on x86. Big selection of platforms.
Apple forced it's entire user base to buy all new perpherials! Boy it really takes balls to shaft their customers like that. Apple sure is great!
The only new peripheral I had to buy was a USB printer to replace my aging Apple printer.
It turned out to be a good thing, because I can go out and buy any new peripheral and it will probably work out of the box... like my MS Intellimouse optical.
USB didn't become mainstream and popular until it was incorporated in Windows 98. It has nothing at all to do with the timing of it's introduction on Apple machines.
I know you want to believe that, but before Windows had USB support, Apple introduced the iMac and forced Mac users to use USB. Yes, PCs had USB ports, but you couldn't do anything with them, and there were no USB peripherals available anyway.
Do you notice how all those early USB peripherals were translucent and came in colors? Did that have anything to do with Windows 98? Of course not! All that stuff was made for the iMac craze... it took a few years for PCs to catch up with USB, just like with Firewire.
John C. Dvorak has been saying this for like 15 years.
Well since he got fired from MacUser magazine anyway... Anyone remember when he used to write a Mac column? He was very pro Mac, but didn't like Apple too much.
please show me where you can build your own mac for 400 bucks or less.
OK and show me where you can build any other type of computer besides an x86 based machine.
And that's the point. For all the people making noise about how you have more options when you build your own box... you are stuck with one architecture. Like Henry Ford used to say, you can have any color as long as it's black!
You can't built a Sun SPARC, you can't build an SGI, you can't build a Mac.
You can only build an "IBM clone." Some of us like to use something different.
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I'm on a mac, and I have five mouse buttons...
Guess I must be real smart, huh? ;-)
The MathWorks Announces Support for Mac OS X
MATLAB's return to the Mac meets growing demand from scientific and engineering communities
Natick, MA - (5/6/2002) The MathWorks today announced its intention to make MATLAB, the industry's leading technical computing software, available on Mac OS X, Apple's advanced Unix-based operating system, with the next release of the MathWorks product line. With MATLAB on Mac OS X, users will be able to use powerful, sophisticated technical computing tools in a graphical and intuitive environment.
"I'm really pleased to be able to announce The MathWorks renewed support for Apple and particularly Mac OS X," said Cleve Moler, Chairman and Chief Scientist at The MathWorks and the original author of MATLAB. "The Macintosh has a strong following among scientists and educators, and we're glad to be back."
"Having MATLAB back on the Mac is tremendous for Apple's scientific and engineering customers," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "This is a perfect example of how developers are taking advantage of Mac OS X's Unix core combined with industry standards like OpenGL and Java."
Pricing and availability will be announced prior to the first commercial shipment of the next release of The MathWorks product line. The release of the company's full line of MATLAB and Simulink products for computation, programming and embedded systems design is expected later this year.
How many Mac users do you know?
First you say "I don't know about the Mac users in general" and then go on to generalize that Linux users are smarter.
If this is the case, then why do so many of the Linux users on /. have such poor language skills?
They might know more about computers (or at least the skills needed to run Linux), but as far as average intelligence, I doubt it.
See, I can generalize too! (Of course!)
PS. Some Mac users also run Linux, like me.
Well, you summed it up. We don't live in 1789 and we are not in a revolution, which is clearly what they were referring to as "tyranny in government." In Israel all males are expected to serve in the army. That could be considered a modern form of Militia. But this is the US and we don't do that. And we would probably make a stink if the US Government wanted to do that.
Plus they did not have people using muskets to hold up liquor stores back then. We have far too many "ruffians." And these ruffians have way too easy access to hand guns. They didn't have police either. None of that stuff applies, including the need for a Militia.
Was anyone in your family ever murdered? I doubt my 86 year old mother having a hand gun would have made any difference, but it helped the person that killed her.
Taking history out of context doesn't work.
Not really. Can you quote the second admendment?
"Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
People always like to quote the line "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms" but they always leave out the part about "a well regulated Militia"... that qualifier means a government regulated armed forces... we already have one. No where does it state the general public, which is not regulated, or a militia, can bear arms.
I don't have this problem, and I'm running on a G4/466 with a gig of RAM. You aren't using UFS are you? My web browser (Mozilla and IE 5.2.1) can scroll faster than I can see, and apps launch in a few bounces. Jaguar (10.2) is supposed to be MUCH faster anyway.
One day, Adobe will port Photoshop to UNIX
Adobe has had a UNIX version of Photoshop for a long time... well for IRIX anyway. I used to use it on a SGI Indy... It sucked. It was way faster on a 9500
Yeah but if you compare a new $1600 G4 to a $3500 PowerMac 9500 (running at 132 Mhz) I think you can see that Apple's new hardware is low cost.
Some companies, like Bowne (largest financial printer in the world) don't allow you to copy ANY files onto your local hard drive. I have a friend that works there, and all files are handled from a server. Yes, they use OPI, but if you have to edit the image, you obviously have to work with the real file. Other friends I know work in similar situations. The Macs have software installed to prevent any files from being copied, even to the desktop!
PDF files are a hit-or-miss proposition. If the operator knows what they are doing, then they usually work fine... but spot colors and even bleeds can be problematic when the PDF file is made incorrectly.
I agree that it's stupid to have to work with big files off a server, but some shops make you do that. I run the Mac dept where I work so we don't do such things!
Right. I did say it can do those things too :)
The benchmark test was as a file server however
You mean 70,000. There are 130k copies already running on Macs, and about 70k on PCs.
I agree with you however about the software platform. Unless they are just hobbiest.
Deck is a wonderful multitrack program, with only one flaw, albeit a major one if you reply on MIDI sequencing.... It doesn't.
Deck was the original software that came with Digidesign hardware. Then when Macs got native audio support built in, OSC (you've got to love that name... Our Stinking Company!) gave it native Apple SoundManager support.
I was a DECK II user from right after Macromedia bought the program from OSC. I had to run Metro synched up to DECK for the MIDI. It still works that way, now Cakewalk owns Metro.
I switched to CubaseVST when BIAS was taking way too long to get sound card support (for anything other than the Korg 1212) into Deck.
If you don't need MIDI, check out Deck.
FCP was being developed by Macromedia. I don't think it ever had a name, and I'm sure MM would have made a Windows version.
65% of those 200,000 already ran Logic on Macs, that's about 130,000 Mac versions VS 70,000 Windows versions.
Why? Apple is not forcing anyone to use Logic. And I seriously doubt they will bundle it as an "iApp." Steinberg just started taking preorders for Cubase SX for OS X.
I'm a musician of about 35 years, and a Mac user since 1994, and I use Cubase.
Apple wants to be like SGI back when you had to buy one to run SoftImage and Flame...
Which is why so many people use Logic with Digi hardware :)
(I'm a Cubase user my self)
Digital Performer does not run on Windows.
A FILE server, serves files. XServe is not a web server, or a mail server, but it can do those things. As I said before, in a lot of very large print companies, all live jobs are on a central file server. So you log in and open these files off the server. They might be huge 900 MB TIFF files, or a QuarkXPress file with many EPS and TIFF files in it. This is real world, day-to-day work for people like my self.
It is in a lot of big printing and publishing shops, like Bowne. All the live job files, and even a lot of the software, like Quark and Photoshop, reside on servers. And you cant even copy files to your local workstation, due to software installed on those Macs to prevent you from installing stuff.
So timing how long it tales to open a 900 MB TIFF file off the server is day to day work for many of us.
Comment on what you know about, please.
I believe the original Deep Blue used PowerPC 604e CPUs. The newer version is a 32-node RS/6000.
But there is more to Deep Blue than CPU power.
How Deep Blue Works
"Deep Blue is not only the finest chess-playing computer in the world, it is also the fastest. This makes perfect sense, because history has proven that the fastest computers conduct the most extensive searches into possible positions. More searches gives the computer a wider array of moves to choose from and therefore a greater chance of choosing the optimum move."
"Deep Blue uses 'live' software that can actually generate up to 200,000,000 positions per second when searching for the optimum move. The software begins this process by taking a strategic look at the board. It then computes everything it knows about the current position, integrates the chess information pre-programmed by the development team, and then generates a multitude of new possible arrangements. From these, it then chooses its best possible next move."
"The software inside of Deep Blue is one all-inclusive program written in C, running under the AIX operating system. Deep Blue utilizes the IBM SP Parallel System called MPI. 'It's a message-passing system,' says Hoane. 'So the search is just all control logic. You're passing control messages back and forth that say, well, what am I doing? Did you finish this? OK, here's your next job. That kind of thing at the SP level.'"
"The latest iteration of the Deep Blue computer is a 32-node IBM RS/6000 SP high-performance computer, which utilizes the new Power Two Super Chip processors (P2SC). Each node of the SP employs a single microchannel card containing 8 dedicated VLSI chess processors, for a total of 256 processors working in tandem. The net result is a scalable, highly parallel system capable of calculating 60 billion moves within three minutes, which is the time allotted to each player's move in classical chess."
That's still ONE platform... x86. If you are using that reasoning, then Windows is a platform. How many companies make Windows? One.
How many compnaies make SGI or Sun computers?
All the people who think they have more choices because they build their own PC is missing one big point. You can only build one kind of computer, an "IBM clone" based on x86. Big selection of platforms.
The only new peripheral I had to buy was a USB printer to replace my aging Apple printer.
It turned out to be a good thing, because I can go out and buy any new peripheral and it will probably work out of the box... like my MS Intellimouse optical.
I know you want to believe that, but before Windows had USB support, Apple introduced the iMac and forced Mac users to use USB. Yes, PCs had USB ports, but you couldn't do anything with them, and there were no USB peripherals available anyway.
Do you notice how all those early USB peripherals were translucent and came in colors? Did that have anything to do with Windows 98? Of course not! All that stuff was made for the iMac craze... it took a few years for PCs to catch up with USB, just like with Firewire.
Well since he got fired from MacUser magazine anyway... Anyone remember when he used to write a Mac column? He was very pro Mac, but didn't like Apple too much.
OK and show me where you can build any other type of computer besides an x86 based machine.
And that's the point. For all the people making noise about how you have more options when you build your own box ... you are stuck with one architecture. Like Henry Ford used to say, you can have any color as long as it's black!
You can't built a Sun SPARC, you can't build an SGI, you can't build a Mac.
You can only build an "IBM clone." Some of us like to use something different.
Just an observation.
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