In any case, I'm one of those who've wondered where the right mouse click is on my mac(I work on a PC).
On a one button mouse Mac, you press the Control key when you click the mouse button, and this gives you the right click.
In Mac OS 9, there is a wonderful free control panel called FinderPop that gave you a right click just by clicking and holding the mouse button.
It also added a bunch of contextual menu features. That's the nice thing about Mac OS, you can add menu items to the contextual menus.
Back when I ran BeOS on my Mac clone I got tired of clicking on modifier keys for the other two buttons so I bought a three button mouse.
Now I use that Mac as a dual boot into OS 9 for my son, and LinuxPPC for me. The mouse comes in handy, but my son prefers to use the one button optical mouse from my G4, since I use an MS Intellimouse Optical.
People need to realize you can plug any USB mouse into a Mac, doesn't matter how many buttons it has. If the company doesn't make drivers for OS X, you can use USB Overdrive to program the extra buttons.
While it would be cool to have my mac glowing blue neon from the inside, I have to wonder: what's the point? And the answer: Because it's cool.
I saw a G4 tower at MacWorld Expo set up this way... they had one side with openings cut in the sheet metal and they removed the silver paper behind the clear plastic shell.
They had blue neon inside. It was pretty cool!
I think it was at the OtherWorld Computing booth.
I bought one of those red LED gooseneck USB lights that plug into the keyboard... that's pretty cool too.. matches the tail light on the MS mouse...
Personally, on Windows (rarely used), I use an MS Explorer mouse with 5 buttons. I _really_ like the forward and back buttons for browsing on the mouse. That doesn't work in Linux however (not by default anyways, someday I'll figure it out if I get bored).
That's the same mouse I use in Mac OS X. On my PowerComputing Mac clone I use a three button ADB Mouse Works mouse for Linux.
OS X naturally uses the right button, and I use USB Overdrive to control the rest of the buttons. The MS software is an OEM version of USB Overdrive, but has fewer features. The cool thing is assigning different button functions for different applications. So I use the forward and back buttons in Mozilla, and then use them as copy and paste in everything else.
I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but Maya on OS X also requires a three button mouse.
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"quicktime is missing software needed to perform this operation. Unfortunately, it is not available on our server" I have to admit that is one HELL of a error message.
Um... DDR 266 was introduced in september of 2000. That is over a year and a half ago. We are at DDR 400 now. The 100 mhz fsb g4 appears in the imac and emac are the celerons of apple.
So, you have 100mhz and 133 mhz fsb processors using a 266mhz memory bus... what is the point? The bottleneck is the processor not the memory sub-system. They need a new processor architecture! something from this decade might be nice.
OK first off, I agree with you... but I was pointing out that G4s are running PC133 RAM, and Apple was not demo'ing anything on iMacs or eMacs.
What mainstream PC makers are offering DDR400? Apple tends to stay away from bleeding edge technology because it's too expensive.
I disagree somewhat about the bottle neck... The CPU is still way faster than the memory sub-system... even on something like a DDR400 system. This is why G4s have the backside cache, usually running at the CPU speed:
Apple is slow to change the mainboard architecture, in favor of stability over speed, but I think this needs to change fast... they have been doing little things, like in 2001 PCI throughput was enhanced by the removal of the PCI bridge (the main memory controller now communicated directly with the PCI bus).
My feeling is that the Xserve is a hint at the direction the new G4 towers will head in. We will know next month...
Doesn't a demonstration of such slow processors (especially the 100mhz fsb G4 stuff) realised today for the consumer show just how many streets behind Apple are?
First off the G4 has a 133Mhz fsb.
Second, look at the Xserve... it uses 233Mhz DDR. Everyone knew Apple was not going to show any new "pro" hardware (i.e.G4 towers) at MWX.
Apple will probably have new faster hardware in August when Jaguar ships.
Another thing is we have no idea what hardware Apple was using for the demos. Could be a 2Ghz G4... only they know. Yes they should have faster CPUs, but they cant get them in quantity from Motorola.
Carbon libraries, for example, have several flaws...The first that comes to mind is the one that makes Mozilla OS X crash and burn if you launch it from a UFS partition.
Apple is the first one to tell you not to use UFS in OS X. There's no reason to use it. HFS+ is better.
Printing, for a second example, is a disaster for OS X users...
I have a two year old, discontinued Epson Sylus Photo 870, and it works as well in OS X as in 9. better actually, because in 9 if you used background printing, the Epson monitor would usually crash.
It must be your installation of OS X... the UFS partition is a tip off...
When I ask about audio software, I hear "classic".
Peak, Deck 3, Spark... all out now. Cubase SX out soon. Logic and DP on the way...
When I say Photoshop, until recently, I heard "classic". Classic runs like a dog.
OS X runs like a dog, classic on top of OS X runs like an old dog.
I run Photoshop 6, and Quark 4 in Classic, and on my meager G4 466 (I gig RAM) they run just fine. Photoshop actually seems to run faster (It does start up faster) so this is just FUD on your part.
Also it's not Apple's fault if some companies are taking too long to get their app running in OS X.
I have been running OS X at home for a year now as my default app, and except for running Cubase, never boot into 9. Even the old version of Peak runs in Classic... but the new version is much faster in X.
Hopefully 10.2 will clear up the second problem with added speed.
I went to MacWorld Expo after work on Wednesday and Thursday. At the Apple display all the Macs were running 10.2. I played with a new 17" iMac... 10.2 is FAST. Felt just like OS 9 again...:)
By the way... if anyone was at MacWorld Expo, and got a chance to try Jaguar (10.2) on any of the Macs at Apple's "both"... IT JUST SCREAMS! It's much faster than OS 9. I can't wait until August!
I believe Apple already ported Classic MacOS to Intel. IIRC, the code name was "Star Trek."
Yes, this is correct. They did use parts of StarTrek for Quicktime for Windows.
Also remember that OS X is based on NeXTSTEP, and NeXT had an x86 version of NeXTSTEP (OPENSTEP), AND Apple also had Rhapsody for x86 (Yellow Box), which is more or less the early version of Mac OSX Server.
There was talk a while back about meetings Jobs had with AMD... the plot thickens.
When asked if Apple would seek an alternative to Motorola's PowerPC, namely chips from Intel, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said the company first had to finish the transition to Mac OS X: "Then we'll have options, and we like to have options,"
Or if you've already used the THREE upgrade coupons that come with your mac when you buy it...
Why would you have used all three? And on what?
My G4 came with OS 9.0.4. I was able to get 9.1 with a coupon, but not OS X.
So I bought OS X 10.0, and used one of the three coupons in that to get 10.1.
You can not go from 10.1.x to 10.2 for $19.95 unless you just bought a new Mac that came with 10.1 and has the coupons. I heard the words come from Steve Jobs' mouth myself. So the left over coupons are useless anyway.
But then Windows 95 to Windows 98 was a paid update, and it's still Windows 4...
Alas, you are correct. It looks like they still have not fixed all the printing bugs.
Gee, I don't know. My Epson Stylus Photo 870 works great with OS X. It worked the first time I set it up and has worked fine for the past year. Zero problems. What bugs are you talking about? Maybe you have a printer with no driver? That's not a bug.
Also, I was at the Expo today, and 10.2 is MUCH faster... It felt like I was using OS 9, only smoother! This thing rocks.
Don't let them lie to you. 10.1 was not free
I don't have a newer mac, I couldn't afford it unless I sold all my cameras, but I went hunting with my buddy for 10.1 for his shiny G4 tower.
You're supposed to be able to bring a proof of purchase into an apple retailer and get a 10.1 cd.
If you had 10.0, you got a sheet with three coupons on it. That's all you needed. I mailed one in to Apple with 19.95 and got the CD.
I also walked into CompUSA and asked them for the update and got one with no proof of purchase, for free, although one of those coupons would have been the all the proof needed.
All we have to do is redifne the words instead of changing the Constitution?
Where are those words defined in the first place? Clearly you are interpreting the meaning.
Also please define the word "redifne"
Do you really think a ban on guns would stop a criminal from aquiring them?
It would surely make it more difficult, why make it so easy for them? I think we need a ban on the manufacture and sale of guns, except to legitimate clients, i.e., the Government can have them made. The gun makers only care about making money. What use does a plastic gun that is undetected by X-ray serve? How about Kevlar piercing bullets?
No one but law enforcement and the military should have access to guns. Hand guns do not stop crime or protect the owners. Most hand gun owners are shot with their own gun. Show me one news story where a crime was prevented by someone having a hand gun. A large number of hand guns used by criminals were stolen from gun owners. And then we have kids who take their parents guns and go to school...
Do you really think that it would be any harder to get a gun than to get drugs?
No one holds up liquor stores with drugs. So who cares. It's already easier to get drugs in most places than guns.
Plus if our Government wanted to become tyrannical, do you really think the Bill Of Rites would stop them? Would it have stopped Nazi Germany? Of course not.
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On a one button mouse Mac, you press the Control key when you click the mouse button, and this gives you the right click.
In Mac OS 9, there is a wonderful free control panel called FinderPop that gave you a right click just by clicking and holding the mouse button.
It also added a bunch of contextual menu features. That's the nice thing about Mac OS, you can add menu items to the contextual menus.
Back when I ran BeOS on my Mac clone I got tired of clicking on modifier keys for the other two buttons so I bought a three button mouse.
Now I use that Mac as a dual boot into OS 9 for my son, and LinuxPPC for me. The mouse comes in handy, but my son prefers to use the one button optical mouse from my G4, since I use an MS Intellimouse Optical.
People need to realize you can plug any USB mouse into a Mac, doesn't matter how many buttons it has. If the company doesn't make drivers for OS X, you can use USB Overdrive to program the extra buttons.
I saw a G4 tower at MacWorld Expo set up this way... they had one side with openings cut in the sheet metal and they removed the silver paper behind the clear plastic shell.
They had blue neon inside. It was pretty cool!
I think it was at the OtherWorld Computing booth.
I bought one of those red LED gooseneck USB lights that plug into the keyboard... that's pretty cool too.. matches the tail light on the MS mouse...
Maya also requires a three button mouse.
And programs like Photoshop are a lot easier to use with a two button mouse.
I think Apple might come out with an optional multibutton mouse... but then again there are a few compnaies making USB mice that work in OS X...
That's the same mouse I use in Mac OS X. On my PowerComputing Mac clone I use a three button ADB Mouse Works mouse for Linux.
OS X naturally uses the right button, and I use USB Overdrive to control the rest of the buttons. The MS software is an OEM version of USB Overdrive, but has fewer features. The cool thing is assigning different button functions for different applications. So I use the forward and back buttons in Mozilla, and then use them as copy and paste in everything else.
I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but Maya on OS X also requires a three button mouse.
You need Quicktime 6 to view the stream.
They never stopped selling the CRT based iMac.
So, you have 100mhz and 133 mhz fsb processors using a 266mhz memory bus... what is the point? The bottleneck is the processor not the memory sub-system. They need a new processor architecture! something from this decade might be nice.
OK first off, I agree with you... but I was pointing out that G4s are running PC133 RAM, and Apple was not demo'ing anything on iMacs or eMacs.
What mainstream PC makers are offering DDR400? Apple tends to stay away from bleeding edge technology because it's too expensive.
I disagree somewhat about the bottle neck... The CPU is still way faster than the memory sub-system... even on something like a DDR400 system. This is why G4s have the backside cache, usually running at the CPU speed:
L1 cache: 32 k data, 32 k instruction
L2 cache: 256k 1:1 on-chip L2 cache
L3 cache: 2 MB DDR SDRAM per-processor (933/dual 1Ghz) (1:4)
data path: 64 bit
bus speed: 133 Mhz (up to 1Ghz memory throughput)
Apple is slow to change the mainboard architecture, in favor of stability over speed, but I think this needs to change fast ... they have been doing little things, like in 2001 PCI throughput was enhanced by the removal of the PCI bridge (the main memory controller now communicated directly with the PCI bus).
My feeling is that the Xserve is a hint at the direction the new G4 towers will head in. We will know next month...
First off the G4 has a 133Mhz fsb.
Second, look at the Xserve... it uses 233Mhz DDR. Everyone knew Apple was not going to show any new "pro" hardware (i.e.G4 towers) at MWX.
Apple will probably have new faster hardware in August when Jaguar ships.
Another thing is we have no idea what hardware Apple was using for the demos. Could be a 2Ghz G4... only they know. Yes they should have faster CPUs, but they cant get them in quantity from Motorola.
Apple is the first one to tell you not to use UFS in OS X. There's no reason to use it. HFS+ is better.
Printing, for a second example, is a disaster for OS X users...
I have a two year old, discontinued Epson Sylus Photo 870, and it works as well in OS X as in 9. better actually, because in 9 if you used background printing, the Epson monitor would usually crash.
It must be your installation of OS X... the UFS partition is a tip off...
Ha! So true. But it's usually a PC using idiot. I never get Mac PageMaker jobs anymore.
Peak, Deck 3, Spark ... all out now. Cubase SX out soon. Logic and DP on the way...
When I say Photoshop, until recently, I heard "classic". Classic runs like a dog. OS X runs like a dog, classic on top of OS X runs like an old dog.
I run Photoshop 6, and Quark 4 in Classic, and on my meager G4 466 (I gig RAM) they run just fine. Photoshop actually seems to run faster (It does start up faster) so this is just FUD on your part.
Also it's not Apple's fault if some companies are taking too long to get their app running in OS X.
I have been running OS X at home for a year now as my default app, and except for running Cubase, never boot into 9. Even the old version of Peak runs in Classic ... but the new version is much faster in X.
I went to MacWorld Expo after work on Wednesday and Thursday. At the Apple display all the Macs were running 10.2. I played with a new 17" iMac... 10.2 is FAST. Felt just like OS 9 again... :)
that was "booth" not "both" :-O
New G4s should be out in August also.
The 17" iMacs look great. :)
Yes, this is correct. They did use parts of StarTrek for Quicktime for Windows.
Also remember that OS X is based on NeXTSTEP, and NeXT had an x86 version of NeXTSTEP (OPENSTEP), AND Apple also had Rhapsody for x86 (Yellow Box), which is more or less the early version of Mac OSX Server.
There was talk a while back about meetings Jobs had with AMD... the plot thickens.
You can get the upgrade for $19.95
Why would you have used all three? And on what?
My G4 came with OS 9.0.4. I was able to get 9.1 with a coupon, but not OS X.
So I bought OS X 10.0, and used one of the three coupons in that to get 10.1.
You can not go from 10.1.x to 10.2 for $19.95 unless you just bought a new Mac that came with 10.1 and has the coupons. I heard the words come from Steve Jobs' mouth myself. So the left over coupons are useless anyway.
But then Windows 95 to Windows 98 was a paid update, and it's still Windows 4...
2*$129 = $258.
Ummmmm, you can buy one copy and install on both Macs.. what are you, simple? Apple doesn't use unlocking codes like MS.
You are actually a Windows user, aren't you?
Gee, I don't know. My Epson Stylus Photo 870 works great with OS X. It worked the first time I set it up and has worked fine for the past year. Zero problems. What bugs are you talking about? Maybe you have a printer with no driver? That's not a bug.
Also, I was at the Expo today, and 10.2 is MUCH faster... It felt like I was using OS 9, only smoother! This thing rocks.
If you had 10.0, you got a sheet with three coupons on it. That's all you needed. I mailed one in to Apple with 19.95 and got the CD.
I also walked into CompUSA and asked them for the update and got one with no proof of purchase, for free, although one of those coupons would have been the all the proof needed.
That's really funny!
Where are those words defined in the first place? Clearly you are interpreting the meaning.
Also please define the word "redifne"
Do you really think a ban on guns would stop a criminal from aquiring them?
It would surely make it more difficult, why make it so easy for them? I think we need a ban on the manufacture and sale of guns, except to legitimate clients, i.e., the Government can have them made. The gun makers only care about making money. What use does a plastic gun that is undetected by X-ray serve? How about Kevlar piercing bullets?
No one but law enforcement and the military should have access to guns. Hand guns do not stop crime or protect the owners. Most hand gun owners are shot with their own gun. Show me one news story where a crime was prevented by someone having a hand gun. A large number of hand guns used by criminals were stolen from gun owners. And then we have kids who take their parents guns and go to school...
Do you really think that it would be any harder to get a gun than to get drugs?
No one holds up liquor stores with drugs. So who cares. It's already easier to get drugs in most places than guns.
Plus if our Government wanted to become tyrannical, do you really think the Bill Of Rites would stop them? Would it have stopped Nazi Germany? Of course not.
Therefore the flagship of Apple's line would be the 1GHz DP PowerMac G4, not the iMac.
OK, I'm a Mac user, and also an graphic artist by trade, and a musician too. So that would make me "artsy."
I do like computers though, and I know about how they work.
A better analogy might be:
Mac users: "I like driving my car, but I don't care to know how to rebuild a carburetor."
Linux users: "I like driving my car, AND rebuilding the carburetor."
Windows users: "My CD player in my car never plays track 5 on any of my CDs. But that's OK because I never liked track 5 anyway."